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HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5

So I am moving here from Raphael Section and I have a doubt that I could not clear by searching through Rhodium and Topaz forums.
What is the difference between Manila 2.1 and Manila 2.5 or as HTC wants us to call it, HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5?
Is the home screen weather (the one with full screen clouds, snow etc.. on a full screen layer) available in both?
Thanks

I'd also like to know this as I've used 2.5 and not overly keen on all the changes.

yes, both have weather animation on the home screen. 2.5 has more detailed animation but is slower, 2.1 animation runs a lot smoother i found.

thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.

Yea I've tested some various builds before starting to cook my own and I like the 2.1 version. It feels like normal Manila but with the animated homescreen which is a nice touch. Manila is MUCH better on a WVGA phone vs the Raphael's VGA screen (too cramped).
My favorite build was Dutty's and had a nice simple black background. I like things simple.
Manila isn't bad, but I HATE how EVERY part of the screen is clickable and takes you to an app; especially the HUGE clock. I always end up launching apps I don't want. I guess Titanium is the same way but it has a tendency to scroll before actually clicking, so there are less app launches.
That plus it adds like 60mb to a rom (wtf).

arkavat said:
thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
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Good info dude.
So these all are your experiment or any HTC source?
I had just posted one similar question, So Now I will point that to this thread.
Thanks.

HTC HD MIRI V 13.0 No weather wallpapaer animation at all but weather demo is their nay suggestions?

hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?

LukeTurner93 said:
hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.

fluke said:
Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
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ah thank you

I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto

PMoto said:
I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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Yes, with manila 2.5 you can choose between 2 options:
Weather Wallpaper
Animated Wallpaper
The weather wallpaper lets you choose any wallpaper and the animated weather will work with it, in the whole screeen, bealtifull but slows the Topaz to a crawl.
The animated wallpaper just do a kind of glow bottom to top, behind the clock and links of the first screen, with whatever picture you choose.

Thanks for that info.
That's what I need - weather wallpaper in 2.1 Manila.
I'm so desperate....

guys, thanks for the summary

how to upgrade to Sense 2.5 ? i have stock HTC Rom with WinMo 6.5 running on Diamond2

I'm running Sense 2.5 on my Diamond and it runs like a charm!
Using this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678

Please search before you post!
This question has been answered before. Please search before you start a new thread.
-ThaDeanesta (The Topaz Moderator)

looking for sense 2.1 rom from desire z and desire hd.... any idea

[REQ] Rom with Xperia X2 panels

Yesterday I downloaded the Xperia X2 panels and they work very good on my HD. All panels (incl the tiles) works very smooth en fast, but there are two problems: Sometimes the panels chrashes (most of the time when I press the home button) And to switch the panels I first have to press the start button and then the panels button before switching.
My question: Can one ,or more rom builders include the Xperia X2 panels, assign the home-button to the panels program and optimise the rom so we can get a whole new experience on our HD?
Thanks in advance
Edit: Youtube Video X2 Panels on a HTC Touch HD

Fitz said:
Yesterday I downloaded the Xperia X2 panels and they work very good on my HD. All panels (incl the tiles) works very smooth en fast, but there are two problems: Sometimes the panels chrashes (most of the time when I press the home button) And to switch the panels I first have to press the start button and then the panels button before switching.
My question: Can one ,or more rom builders include the Xperia X2 panels, assign the home-button to the panels program and optimise the rom so we can get a whole new experience on our HD?
Thanks in advance
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For you information, you are not the first to ask this. Instead of a creating a new thread, why not search for existing threads and possibly post 'any progress on this?' within one of these?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534201&highlight=PANELS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=465547&highlight=PANELS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462735&highlight=PANELS

Hi. all the links point to discussions about xperia X1 panels, and there is no mention about the x2 panels.i do not know if anyone is reading or writing those threads anymore.
the guy was asking about the xperia X2 panels,and it would be interesting to see it work on the HD.sorry if i am wrong about this. have a good day

why not flash a non manilla (and therefore lite) rom and then install the x2 panel manager over that? im sure it would work fine. graphics performance may not be as good as some of the more fully featured ROMs (which include the latest gfx drivers) but using neos driverpack ought to fix that.

ASK768 said:
why not flash a non manilla (and therefore lite) rom and then install the x2 panel manager over that? im sure it would work fine. graphics performance may not be as good as some of the more fully featured ROMs (which include the latest gfx drivers) but using neos driverpack ought to fix that.
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maybe a guide?

ultimatepichu said:
maybe a guide?
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you wouldnt need a guide. i assume you know how to flash a ROM, if not there are threads in the rom development thread.
You choose a lite rom
flash it
(if you want, install the driverpack http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712)
install x2 panel manager (http://htcpedia.com/ARK-XPERIA-X2-PM-AND-PANELS/soft/rhodium-apps.html?page=1 - install all .cabs)
soft reset
i think that should do it.

Thanks all, but this wasn't my question
I know I can download a lite rom, but it even works smooth on a non-lite rom. so that aint the problem. I already know those threads about the X1 existed but it has nothing to do with the x2 panels. I made a little movie so you guys can see how great it looks and works on my HD with energyrom. It can even run together with manila (the panel on the left side at the bottom)
Youtube Video X2 Panels on a HTC Touch HD

very nice.
i agree tha it would be great to have a rom with the X2 panels.

Yes a ROM working only with x2 panels is a good idea cooks can tweak much better than a simple user and can get rid of the bugs that pop up.Maybe you should talk with some of the ROM developers on a PM or email them to get their attention.

hope a rom with x2 panels will come out!

I am an old fan of sonyericsson still p990i. I think such an interface in hd is a good idea and will be more usefull in a handy size like Hd than the Xperia itself...

hey thanks!
Running Tilewave on XannyTech GRID EVO 1.6b. smoooth, just that the alignment is not good, but that's because wimo 6.5.3.
anyway, anyone know how to add stuffs to the tiles or change instead of calculator to something else?

Where can i download the X2 panels like the one in the video? I've installed the x2 panelmanager and x2 tilewave from the xperia forum, but it doesnt work on my touch hd...

i have tried the panels but they are still not working right on the HD. maybe a cook can do something abou it?

I installed all .cabs on order on my HD but the Pmanager will not load due to an error it says.

phemelrijk said:
I installed all .cabs on order on my HD but the Pmanager will not load due to an error it says.
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installed everything on the latest topix beta rom and it works like a charm, but i do prefer manila over it.. even the tile panel impressed me, but its not a layout i like.

[HTC Sense] Animated Wallpaper on Today Screen for Manila Home screen...

Hi all ,
[Sorry for my bad english, I'm french]
I would like to have an animated wallpaper on the first page of HTC Sense home plugin, wich is on WM6.5 HTC roms.
Animated GIF don't match and become not animated as wallpapers.
So I wonder if someone knows how to put an animated gif as wallpaper, or a short video, juste like Dreamscene for Windows Vista, but on our WM6.5 devices !
Waiting for your answers
Sam

+1
I am also wondering in it!

I have animated weather, but i want an animated wallpaper too!

[Q] Sense Like Weather Clock

I have a question and a request at the same time...Can someone make a weather clock like the one in sense 2.1 for TF3D ? I am using WM 6.1 stock rom, my carriers latest version - cause I dont wanna lose warranty - and I am constantly switching between TF3D - with all kinds of mods and a sense 2.1 vga build by kimi_sae_ireba. It looks nice, but it's slow as hell...I mean really slow, but i like it cause of the animated weather clock...sacrificing performance for looks...Is there a possibility to make a weather clock for TF3D ? even a non-animated version would be nice, but an animated one would be perfect...so...what do you think ? I was thinking maybe isolate one tab - home from sense 2.1 and moving it to TF3D...I have no idea about developing apps, so I'm just saying stupid thoughts

[Q] maxsense ui issue

alright. i had flashed the athine os rom with maxsense ui on it onto my tilt 2. my issue is that when i slide my keyboard out it sometimes freezes and somtimes my screen only fills half the screen in landsape mode. does maxsense not support landscape yet or do i just have a bad rom and if so where can i get another rom with the android style maxsense ui thx!

tyronekndrck said:
alright. i had flashed the athine os rom with maxsense ui on it onto my tilt 2. my issue is that when i slide my keyboard out it sometimes freezes and somtimes my screen only fills half the screen in landsape mode. does maxsense not support landscape yet or do i just have a bad rom and if so where can i get another rom with the android style maxsense ui thx!
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MaxSense does not support landscape mode. There is no further support of it as the creator of MaxSense, maxycy, is no longer active in the forum. You may want to switch to CHT2.0. It offers pretty much all the benefits of MaxSense plus landscape mode.