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Motorola A855 Milestone take sim card?

My FIRST AND MAIN QUESTION:
I have been reading and getting mixed answers as to weather or not the Motorola A855 Milestone takes a sim card. some people say yes others say no. Can someone that ACTUALL OWNS the phone please tell me if it takes a sim card.
My 2nd question: If it does take a sim, can it be unlocked to use on the ATT network?

http://developer.motorola.com/products/droid/
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...Mobile-Phones/ci.Motorola-MILESTONE-XW-EN.alt
take your pick.

i already checked those sites, it doesnt SPECIFICALLY answer my question. Can someone just give me a simple answer to a simple question instead of sending me to the specs page....and yes i know it was designed for verizon, but i hear maybe it works with ATT and im not sure so does anyone know?

finally found the info online from another site. BTW..nice way to build up your posts abn75 by taking people to the manufacturer website, who cant do that with any question. Anyways below is the asnwer i was looking for that i found on another site.
" ALL Milestones (GSM) are A853 models, ALL DROID's (CDMA) are A855 models.
There is 2 different Milestones available:
Under you battery is the data tag. Look for the FCC ID, the last digits tell the tale:
FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies
FCC ID: IHDP56KC2 = Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Dual-Band 3G (900/2100) European frequencies
Telus Milestone (A853 - FCC ID: IHDP56KC5), WILL work on AT&T, it WILL have 3G and HSDPA (3.5G), it also can access ALL market apps.
When you get a Milestone and plan to use it on ATT , make sure if has the FCC ID: IHDP56KC5 which is Quad-Band GSM (850/900/1800/1900) and Tri-Band 3G (850/1900/2100) North American frequencies. I would suggest unlocking for sim card usage when you are in range of the AT&T Network. Mine was unlocked while within the AT&T network and all the APN data and such was set automatically, data worked immediately after it was unlocked. "
-Quoted by WIRELESSGUY

[Q] Importing a Tab from the U.S

Hi. I am concidering to buy a Galaxy Tab 10.1 from the united states. But i was wondering if it would support the norwegian GSM network ?
Somehow i got the impression that Europe and USA have different types of technologies to connect phones to their carriers..
Becase we have _INSANE_ taxes here in norway, i'm guessing it will be much much cheaper having a friend sending it overseas from the us.
But i need to know if its compatible with norwegian gsm-based network.
Edit: will all tabs be cdma only?

Also: bump
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Theres no way they will all be cdma, and what are the networks you use?

Some will be gsm, some not (i think verizon is cdma, tmobile is gsm; gsm needs sim card). Just make sure that the model you buy requires a sim card. Then it will work. Alternatively you could get one from Canada.

It's possible, but consider two things (as above)
1. get a GSM tab (onw with a simcard slot)
2. have it unlocked (sim lock removed)

Gadgetguy2005 said:
Some will be gsm, some not (i think verizon is cdma, tmobile is gsm; gsm needs sim card). Just make sure that the model you buy requires a sim card. Then it will work. Alternatively you could get one from Canada.
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Unfortunately i dont know anyone that lives in canada. I need a friend that can ship it directly to me, with a note attached to it saying "happy birthday" or something to get away with the taxes from customs.

There are two types of GSM Tablets in the US. One is from AT&T, the other T-Mobile.
Both tablets support 850/900/1800/1900mhz bands so if your carrier is on these bands you should have no problem getting it to work. Whether its 3g capable or not, that's a different story as at least in the US only AT&T has the tri band UMTS necessary to get 3g and voice capability.
You can go here to read about sim unlock.

Where can I buy an unlocked Note 3 N9005 that would work with AT&T?

I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?

Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.

xclub_101 said:
I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
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http://negrielectronics.com/phones/android-mobile-c-67.html
According to the above link...the 16 gb version does exist.

Does the n9005 model have AT&T LTE for sure?
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Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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Before committed to pay big $ for the phone ... check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964

I'd buy what you're looking for in a heartbeat - if it existed. So far it doesn't. At least not ln any of the N3's for the UK, EU, or Latin America that have been announced. The Korean S-800 SGS4 supports AT&T's bands so their N3 probably will also. But the Korean phones have funky TV h/w and a funky MMS system that's different than Western versions. Rogers' (Canada) version will be compatible with AT&T LTE and may be closer to "virgin" than AT&T's version. The challenge is warranty service both because you'd have to send it to Canada for repair (assuming Rogers' services a phone for a non-subscriber) and because Knox prevents resetting the warranty status if a non-standard ROM's been flashed. Speaking of which, you'd probably only be able to flash Rogers' ROMs via Odin unless their N3 was a "pure" i9505 capable of using international ROMs.
And as someone above mentioned there's some question as to what "unlocked" means with the N3 as there are now regional limitations on top of carrier's locking phones to their networks.
If I find a true international N3 that works on AT&T's LTE that's not regionally SIM locked I'll let you know. Until then I'm sticking with AT&T's version and hoping they haven't molested it too badly.

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Lets knock off the keyboard hero stuff and get back on topic.

The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700

designgears said:
The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
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Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.

choch69 said:
Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
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You can't just say "N9005" and expect to get an answer. "N9005" refers to generic Snapdragon 800 LTE capable version of GN3, but each country and carrier in the world has different LTE bands enabled in that Snapdragon's SoC radio. Find your Rogers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It operates on bands 4 and 7 - none of the Euro countries' carriers work on band 4, as you can see from the list. AT&T USA, T-Mobile USA and Rogers CA should be LTE cross compatible in most coverage areas, but not all.
If you buy N9005 version with unlocked bootloader - later, when someone makes Odin compatible with GN3 you will be able to flash Roger's LTE modem firmware to your N9005, no matter which country it is from and what LTE bands it currently has enabled

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.

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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.

This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
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omegacell said:
This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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The OP needs to take into consideration that If he buys from an online retailer an international unit, this unit will need to be activated in its intended region before he can use it in the states.

Apo11on said:
you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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I've never heard of that. Seems like a problematic setup since the RF properties of bands can vary so much. Seems like you would get in a situation where you have up but not downstream or vice versa.
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.

omegacell said:
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
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Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?

Apo11on said:
Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
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Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".

omegacell said:
Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.

Apo11on said:
that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.[/QUOTEN
N9005 from HK or Singapore (perhaps others too) will work.
The South American N9000 are region locked to South American, North American, carribean etc. SIM cards (western hemisphere).
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[Q] Moto x phone in France

Hello, It is possible to buy moto x phone on official site and receive in France. The phone support french phone networks like Orange or SFR ? Sorry for my english.
Thanks.

i would guess the only way you will be able to buy it is say through ebay from a seller willing to ship to you (i sent a puerto rico XT1058 unlocked to a guy in the UK...)
they are GSM phones so it shoudl support at least HSPA+. none of the moto phones support the french LTE bands i dont think though.

I agree: you will have to buy it on ebay(like me) or use one of the services that gives you temporary adress in USA so you can order it(this will cost you more, but you can create your own Moto on moto maker, so it can be worth it if you want some unusual color).
As far as I know, majority of Europe networks are GSM, so you don't want one from Verizon or US Cellular(these are CDMA, although I have once seen GSM Verizon version, but they are quite rare on ebay)
Also don't be afraid of locked phones, 99.9% of them can by unlocked for something around 15$ and amount of carrier bloatware is minimal. (Mine Moto is from AT&T and I was able to disable everything except one contact synchronization service)
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daemontus said:
I agree: you will have to buy it on ebay(like me) or use one of the services that gives you temporary adress in USA so you can order it(this will cost you more, but you can create your own Moto on moto maker, so it can be worth it if you want some unusual color).
As far as I know, majority of Europe networks are GSM, so you don't want one from Verizon or US Cellular(these are CDMA, although I have once seen GSM Verizon version, but they are quite rare on ebay)
Also don't be afraid of locked phones, 99.9% of them can by unlocked for something around 15$ and amount of carrier bloatware is minimal. (Mine Moto is from AT&T and I was able to disable everything except one contact synchronization service)
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the verizon XT1060 edition , is GSM compatible, just no LTE (really no difference from your point of view in france). verizon's new moto phones have been GSM unlocked for a while from the factory (even the last generation).
i wouldnt recommend it unless it was very very cheap though as verizon updates are slow, and the bootloader is locked. you'd be better off with one of the puerto rico / chile ones since at least you could unlock and flash the dev images.

Hello all,
I live in the US now but gonna back to France eventually. I plan on buying a Moto X with moto maker using the 150$ coupon and using it in France at some point. My questions are :
- Is there any difference beetween the T-Mobile and ATandT version ? (I know that I don't want a CDMA version)
- Is there a difference beetween the GSM Developper Edition and the one from T-Mob. and ATandT ?
- When it's come to Android update, wich version will you think update the fastest ?
Thanks,
Julien

Different types of Moto x
If you want to use the Moto x in Europe (France) you should know these:
1 Basicly you have two different types of Moto x as far as concerns radio frequencies: GSM type and CDMA type. You can't use CDMA type in Europe therefore you must select between GSM types. CDMA types are phones branded for Verizon, Sprint and any others intended for their networks (US Cellular...).
2 Special case is Republic Wireless which seems to use the dedicated voip application (sip), working primarily on its wireless network and in extension on the Sprint CDMA.
3 On the GSM side you have in the USA phones for the following operators: AT&T, T-mobile and developers edition. In Canada you can get Rogers network which is host for the Fido operator as well.
4. In central and South America you can find Nextel in Mexico, Claro in Chile, Columbia, Peru, Brazil and Puerto Rico and Movistar in Argentina. I might have ommited some of them but they all operates on GSM network.
5. Moto x is sold on the contract in Germany as well for pretty high price and i believe that it is a T-mobile model.
So what is important for the Eropean to make a right choise? You must know that all this phones are more or less branded and some of them locked to the original network. You might experience a serious problem trying to unlock one.
The second fact worth to be considered is the LTE network. It is true that it is not so widely spreaded in Europe as in the USA but it can comes a point in the year or two. And you don't want to buy a fairly expensive phone for six months, do you?
Taking these into the consideration I've been learned so far:
Model XT1058 covered highest number of LTE bands among all. Model XT1058 covers LTE 700 / 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100/2600. It is sold by AT&T and some Central/South American operators. While is likely that AT&T's model lacks 2600 band as Jelly Bean and regarding some testimonies gains it with the KITKAT, the others seem to have even more LTE bands deactivated and are practically unuseful in Europe.
Unfortunatelly AT&T's model has others significiant disadvantages: the bootloader is not unlockable what simply means that you might never have opportunity to install the custum ROM. And what is worst: in the last time you hardly get unlock code and that might force you to be hooked on the AT&T network for a long time or forever.
T-mobile and developers models both work on LTE 700 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 frequencies, what means that they match only one european band - 2100. LTE frequencies which are mostly in use in Europe are: 1800, 2100 and 2600. Otherwise this two models come with unlockable bootloader and they are not locked to any network.
Rogers and Fido have both unlockable bootloader, they are not locked to any network, not branded and they work on LTE 2100 and 2600.
It's hard to collect these information and make an optimal decision. Feel free to correct or amend me if you find that I failed in any part of my explanation. But now I know for sure: if I had this knowledge before, I'd undoubtly opted for the Rogers model.

Thanks for this amazing explanation ! It should be pinned somewhere.
Here is what I understand from your answer and all I read :
- I might be able to have the 4G LTE in France with the ATandT version (2600) but it could be tricky to unlock. I'm not sure I understand the KITKAT parts (My english is not so good)
- T mobile are not locked and it's easy to unlock the bootloader. About LTE you say it has 2100. But I don't think we have this frequency available in France. From the wikipedia article it's more 800, 1800 and 2600. So I might not have LTE. Do you know about HSPA+ ?
- The rogers version could be the best option. What about the price ? Can I pick this provider trought the motomaker with Cybermonday deal ?
Now About the 4G LTE in France 2 things :
- The cover is really poor right now unless you live inside a big city
- The plan are way more expensive than regular 3G (HSPA+) except for ''Free Mobile'' who just add the LTE for free at no extra cost (But has a really really bad cover)
That's why I could go with a HSPA version only.
Thanks you again for you answers ! I'm glad I registered on the XDA forum today

[email protected] said:
Thanks for this amazing explanation ! It should be pinned somewhere.
Here is what I understand from your answer and all I read :
- I might be able to have the 4G LTE in France with the ATandT version (2600) but it could be tricky to unlock. I'm not sure I understand the KITKAT parts (My english is not so good)
- T mobile are not locked and it's easy to unlock the bootloader. About LTE you say it has 2100. But I don't think we have this frequency available in France. From the wikipedia article it's more 800, 1800 and 2600. So I might not have LTE. Do you know about HSPA+ ?
- The rogers version could be the best option. What about the price ? Can I pick this provider trought the motomaker with Cybermonday deal ?
Now About the 4G LTE in France 2 things :
- The cover is really poor right now unless you live inside a big city
- The plan are way more expensive than regular 3G (HSPA+) except for ''Free Mobile'' who just add the LTE for free at no extra cost (But has a really really bad cover)
That's why I could go with a HSPA version only.
Thanks you again for you answers ! I'm glad I registered on the XDA forum today
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Hi,
the detailed description of Moto x LTE frequencies could be found on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_X. The only question is how accurate it is. Regarding my experience you should be careful with Central/South American bands and ask the seller about details before buying one. I asked a lot and once got the information that Claro's from Puerto Rico only supports LTE 700/850/1700. And it is confirmed that AT&T's Moto x with initial operating system (4.2.2) doesn't work on 2600Mhz. Regarding Wiki and some claims, when you upgrade it to 4.4 (KitKat), you get 2600 on LTE. That's what I ment in previous comment about LTE and AT&T. But this is just unproved information though there isn't any 2600MHz LTE network in the USA and nobody has tested it yet. In the USA they prefer lower LTE bands (700, 850 MHz) because they can obtain better signal range and penetration through buildings. But you can gain broader bandwith on higher frequencies, that's why Americans later built more networks on 1700, 1900 and 2500 MHz.
To make the situation clear: AT&T has on the LTE the most suatible frequencies to European networks. According to the Wiki is the same with other XT1058 models, Central/South American Vivo, Claro, Movistar. But for the latest Wiki might be wrong, it worth checking before buying.
As I mentioned before, AT&T's models has other more serious disadvantages. But I wouldn't neglect the LTE capacity of the phone, the features of modern phones which firstly look uninteresting becomes very actual this year. I mean NFC (apps management, direct payment) and LTE. Although LTE is not even nearly as widely spreaded in Europe as in the USA, the situation might change in the near future. European Commission which is very innovative on the field of mobile communications, issued last year the Decision 243/2012/EU establishing a multiannual radio spectrum policy to year 2020. In this policy it not only encourages member states to develop the 4G networks but make them also commited to. The frequencies available for the LTE should be:
- 790 do 862 MHz,
- 880 do 915 MHz,
- 925 do 960 MHz,
- 1.710 do 1.785 MHz,
- 1.805 do 1.880 MHz,
- 1.900 do 1.980 MHz,
- 2.010 do 2.025 MHz,
- 2.110 do 2.170 MHz,
- 2,5 do 2,69 GHz in
- 3,4 do 3,8 GHz.
In fact most of the European countries opt primarly for 2600MHz, 1800MHz, 800MHz and 2100MHz. In concreto in France a rollout of LTE networks began, mostly on 2600MHz and less on 800MHZ. The situation regarding LTE coverage might be completely different at the end of 2014.
There is no problem with GSM and 3G frequencies, all GSM models opreate on: GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 and 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100 HSDPA (T-mobile and Developers edition additionally on HSDPA 1700).
To summarize, what should be advised to the European buyer of Moto x:
1. Buy a new phone (although the service is only in the USA you still get full warranty registering your phone on the Motorola website).
2. Choose the right model taking into consideration: SIM unlocked/locked, bootloader locked/unlocked, LTE band. Sometimes is worth pay more to have significant less problems.
3. Pay with PayPal (you have effective claim against the seller if you don't get the phone as described).
4. Run it at least 1 or better 2 weeks before root or change ROM. That is minimal sufficient time to find out possible malfunctions.
A few words regarding warranty, SIM unlocking, rooting, bootloader unlocking:
In Europe SIM unlocking, rooting and bootloader unlocking is legal and for natural person, any of these acts could not void the warranty regarding Directive 1999/44/CE if the warranty claim doesn't derive from such act and the operating system is recovered to the original. In the USA rooting the device is legal and couldn't void the warranty as long as the device is reverted to original. The situation with SIM unlocking and bootloader unlocking is somehow funny. As from January 26th 2013 according to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act unlocking SIM without operators permittion is ilegal. But this rule only applies to cell phones, not to for example to tablets and other devices which use SIM cards and at least data transmittion if not telephony functionality. As regard unlock bootloader the previous stand of Motorola was even more absurd: They sell developers edition of Moto x and they encouraged usesrs to unlock the bootloader but they warned them if they had done so, they warranty would be void. Latter they changed that collision by issuing an original system image for recover and announcing that they would recognize the warranty despite the unlocked bootloader.
In other parts of the word including Canada SIM unlock doesn't have inpact on the warranty.

Just adding one thing!
If you want to set your use the touchless control in French, it is not possible with Latin American phones, they don't have this option and you can't set your phone in French (only English, Brazilian Portuguese and Spanish available), so even if you set your voice search language to French in Google Now or in settings, the recognition is working well but it will never reply to you or do any action. Which ruins all the interest.
Now I think the AT&T phone got French in the settings but I am not sure, can someone confirm this? Not the Voice Search language (all Google languages are available there) but the phone language settings, is there French?
Thanks,
Tih

tihtow said:
Just adding one thing!
If you want to set your use the touchless control in French, it is not possible with Latin American phones, they don't have this option and you can't set your phone in French (only English, Brazilian Portuguese and Spanish available), so even if you set your voice search language to French in Google Now or in settings, the recognition is working well but it will never reply to you or do any action. Which ruins all the interest.
Now I think the AT&T phone got French in the settings but I am not sure, can someone confirm this? Not the Voice Search language (all Google languages are available there) but the phone language settings, is there French?
Thanks,
Tih
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I read on another thread that the T-mobile version comes with french (I don't know for AT&T). For this reason and for the fact that this version is less locked, I bought it on the moto maker. Thanks piskr and all other XDA members for helping me in this choice !
I will let you know what I think of the phone once I received it.

[email protected] said:
I read on another thread that the T-mobile version comes with french (I don't know for AT&T). For this reason and for the fact that this version is less locked, I bought it on the moto maker. Thanks piskr and all other XDA members for helping me in this choice !
I will let you know what I think of the phone once I received it.
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I'm curious, how did you manage to buy it on motomaker from outside the USA? Do you have a US credit card? How are you shipping it to France? I'd like to do the same thing (but shipping to Canada) but not sure how to proceed...

BlackAurora said:
I'm curious, how did you manage to buy it on motomaker from outside the USA? Do you have a US credit card? How are you shipping it to France? I'd like to do the same thing (but shipping to Canada) but not sure how to proceed...
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I have the AT&T model, it supports touchless control in French. Though I don't recoomend it. I guess that all American and Canadian models support French. Better go for Rogers, Fido or T-mobile.

BlackAurora said:
I'm curious, how did you manage to buy it on motomaker from outside the USA? Do you have a US credit card? How are you shipping it to France? I'd like to do the same thing (but shipping to Canada) but not sure how to proceed...
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I'm living in the US right know. And my american roommate was kind enough to use his card. It didn't work with my French one.

[email protected] said:
I'm living in the US right know. And my american roommate was kind enough to use his card. It didn't work with my French one.
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I can confirm that none of my credit cards worked on motos website (master cards issued in Sweden). They reserve money at your bank but you get it back a few days later.
I have a friend who studies in the states and he has an american credit card. He will buy it for me and take it to Sweden. I will design the phone at moto maker and save the design. He will then log on to my google account and choose carrier and do all of the "checkout".
So much work for a bloody phone.

mavericktc said:
I can confirm that none of my credit cards worked on motos website (master cards issued in Sweden). They reserve money at your bank but you get it back a few days later.
I have a friend who studies in the states and he has an american credit card. He will buy it for me and take it to Sweden. I will design the phone at moto maker and save the design. He will then log on to my google account and choose carrier and do all of the "checkout".
So much work for a bloody phone.
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So, how does it work, the 1058, in your countries?

Change the lte frequencies??

i want to buy from Usa a moto x
i was wondering if the lte frecquencies will work here in Europa (Italy)
if not there is any chance to change the lte,by flashing the european radio version??
thank u all

danger2u said:
i want to buy from Usa a moto x
i was wondering if the lte frecquencies will work here in Europa (Italy)
if not there is any chance to change the lte,by flashing the european radio version??
thank u all
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I can't say if it will work in Italy, but no, you can not change the radio frequencies that the phone supports.

danger2u said:
i want to buy from Usa a moto x
i was wondering if the lte frecquencies will work here in Europa (Italy)
if not there is any chance to change the lte,by flashing the european radio version??
thank u all
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I think it is best if you know what frequencies your network uses for us to help you decide which model moto x to get.

brusko1972 said:
i think it is best if you know what frequencies your network uses for us to help you decide which model moto x to get.
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800,1800,2600

The answer is no.
The radios configuration each model has is programmed into the phone just like the serial number. The modem software just reads those values.

Steve-x said:
The answer is no.
The radios configuration each model has is programmed into the phone just like the serial number. The modem software just reads those values.
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Maybe, but more importantly, there needs to be hardware support for the frequencies, which includes the modem, antenna and possibly a power amplifier. While modern chipsets support many LTE bands, the rest of the transceiving hardware will only be for the designed frequencies.
So for Italy, just buy one from UK, Germany or France, those have the European LTE bands (800, 1800, 2600), but of course no Moto Maker. So you have to decide what's more important. Aside from that, the AT&T model has LTE band 7 (2600), if that is enough for you.

jniklast said:
Maybe, but more importantly, there needs to be hardware support for the frequencies, which includes the modem, antenna and possibly a power amplifier. While modern chipsets support many LTE bands, the rest of the transceiving hardware will only be for the designed frequencies.
So for Italy, just buy one from UK, Germany or France, those have the European LTE bands (800, 1800, 2600), but of course no Moto Maker. So you have to decide what's more important. Aside from that, the AT&T model has LTE band 7 (2600), if that is enough for you.
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i buy it from Motomaker bamboo version
i will try when arrives to flash the european firmware to see if suports lte
but u think that Motorola changes hardware parts for various models or just limited this with software limit??

danger2u said:
i buy it from Motomaker bamboo version
i will try when arrives to flash the european firmware to see if suports lte
but u think that Motorola changes hardware parts for various models or just limited this with software limit??
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I'd say yes, they change hardware parts. Supporting all LTE frequencies would cost too much space.

danger2u said:
i buy it from Motomaker bamboo version
i will try when arrives to flash the european firmware to see if suports lte
but u think that Motorola changes hardware parts for various models or just limited this with software limit??
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Already tried that. I have T-Mobile MotoMaker version, when flashed EU DE firmware I lost GSM, had to flash modem from TMO to get it work. Now I have 4.4.2 DE with TMO modem and everything works perfectly (well aside LTE of course)
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ujoty said:
Already tried that. I have T-Mobile MotoMaker version, when flashed EU DE firmware I lost GSM, had to flash modem from TMO to get it work. Now I have 4.4.2 DE with TMO modem and everything works perfectly (well aside LTE of course)
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DID u mean that the LTE works too in Germany with T-mobilr modem??
what bands do u have in Germany?

LTE does not work, everything else does. I'm from Poland, we have here LTE 1800 IIRC. HSPA+ is sufficient for me, I'm getting about 15 MBit/s so I don't complain.
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