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Question about switching ROMS

I am a Android noob.
Had my Hero a few weeks now.
Its rooted and running Fresh 1.1.
But I like to try out different roms.
If I flash to Modacos most recent release what happens to all my settings?
Also what happens to my installed apps? Do I need to reinstall them from the market?
Obviosly any other tips would be appreciated.
Thanks.

as far as flashing modacos rom no you shouldnt loose your settings it should just flash over fresh.
as your apps go im not really sure I rooted the day I got the phone and have been running apps2sd since. if you arent running apps2sd and are worried about it you could always do an adb pull on
/system/app
and
/system/app-private
just to get them backed up
but I belive that even if they are no longer installed then they should still show in market under my downloads

do a nandroid backup in case you loose all your apps then you can just restore to the way it was before the flash

wtphoto said:
as far as flashing modacos rom no you shouldnt loose your settings it should just flash over fresh.
as your apps go im not really sure I rooted the day I got the phone and have been running apps2sd since. if you arent running apps2sd and are worried about it you could always do an adb pull on
/system/app
and
/system/app-private
just to get them backed up
but I belive that even if they are no longer installed then they should still show in market under my downloads
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Actually user installed apps (apps from the Market) go to /data/app, if I remember correctly.

gu1dry said:
Actually user installed apps (apps from the Market) go to /data/app, if I remember correctly.
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see ive always been messed up with this one becuase I have found some that are in system/app and some that are in data/app
BTW gu1dry saw a screenie of the kitchen on twitter. lovin the look man

wtphoto said:
see ive always been messed up with this one becuase I have found some that are in system/app and some that are in data/app
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/system/app/ is for system apps & ROM included apps, while user installed apps from the Market go into /data/app/.
wtphoto said:
BTW gu1dry saw a screenie of the kitchen on twitter. lovin the look man
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I do what I can
Still waiting for a fully functioning prototype to test everything out & see if anything needs to be tweak before it's released to the masses...

Thanks for the help guys

Cyanogenmod Question

Hey, i'm having an issue with cyanogenmod 7 on my Nook Color. Switched from cupcake because I thought I'd have greater compatibility with apps. Since the change, programs that once worked (e.g. snesoid, beautifu widgets) won't book. Just get hung and ask me if I want to force close. I'm using the tablet tweaks and everything... is this just how it is, or did I mess up somewhere along the line? Thanks.

I can't speak for the specific apps or ROM ur using, but yeah this happens with the occasional app. Remember that u r using an unfinished product. It will get better as CM refines it. Android as a whole is a buggy system. Its never going to be as functional as something like iOS.

Did you wipe either Cache and/or Data partitions before flashing CM7? Wiping the Data partition will wipe all installed applications and settings, however, it will prevent any weird issues arising from incompatible settings across different ROMs and OS versions.
I don't know about snesoid, but my personal experience is that BW works very well in CM7.

sgt.pepper99 said:
Hey, i'm having an issue with cyanogenmod 7 on my Nook Color. Switched from cupcake because I thought I'd have greater compatibility with apps. Since the change, programs that once worked (e.g. snesoid, beautifu widgets) won't book. Just get hung and ask me if I want to force close. I'm using the tablet tweaks and everything... is this just how it is, or did I mess up somewhere along the line? Thanks.
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Sounds like something's wrong. My Beautiful Widgets works great. I'd try reinstalling using these instructions:

I have similar problems with both Beautiful Widgets and the XDA app. When I log into the XDA app, it gives me a force close pop up. However, when I use the XDA app without logging in, I don't have any problems.
Which instructions are you referring to in that MASSIVE 100+ page post?
Thanks.

joelszs said:
I have similar problems with both Beautiful Widgets and the XDA app. When I log into the XDA app, it gives me a force close pop up. However, when I use the XDA app without logging in, I don't have any problems.
Which instructions are you referring to in that MASSIVE 100+ page post?
Thanks.
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The first post on that page.. That's how I flashed CM7 (pretty standard method, really) and I have no problems with Beautiful Widgets. Haven't tested XDA app. To be honest, I have problems with XDA app on my Droid 1, CM7, so I never use it.

Thanks everyone! I installed following the instructions from wiki.cyanogenmod http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
I will give it another shot and report back when I do. Right now I've gone back to cupcake, but still having a problem with beautiful widgets- gets stuck on the "loading skins" screen, never loads.
p.s. I *did* wipe the cache and data partitions

"Cupcake"?? I think you mean "Eclair"?
Cupcake was many versions ago, before the Nook existed, and the Nook Color ships with Eclair...

So, I switched to cyanogen, but I couldn't get beautiful widgets or snesoid to run. Trying to revert to factory settings, but every time I try I get stuck on the word ANDROID in blue.
I've tried hard booting 8x, I've tried running the script to change the bootcount but this just gets me to clockworkmod. I try running the factory reset/data wipe option, but it clearly doesn't remove cyanogen. I've also tried sideloading a 1.1 version zip, all to no avail. Any suggestions? Would uninstalling clockworkmod help?

Are you sure you followed the 8-failed-boots method precisely? That really should have brought you back to stock, at least as far as I understand.
http://nookdevs.com/Flash_back_to_clean_stock_ROM

I really do think so. It brought me to clockwork recovery instead of the usual factory reset...

Well I'm out of my league (I haven't done this) but it seems there are still ways... You could check out http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...install-cwr-save-root-revert-stock-image.html or do some searches here.

Now I'm stuck on the N sign instead of android... Tried everything in the link here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690 including the boot partition. No dice. The only way i can get it to boot is to reinstall cyanogen. Is there some trick to uninstalling cyanogen? Any other suggestions out there?

It seems like cyanogen just WON'T WIPE. Even when I format my data, it still loads, despite clockworkmod reporting that it has been formatted. Ideas please!

Check at androidtablets dot net
look for the link about restoring and removing clockwork from an SD card. I'd post the link but I can't yet.

MajTom said:
Check at androidtablets dot net
look for the link about restoring and removing clockwork from an SD card. I'd post the link but I can't yet.
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http://www.androidtablets.net/forum...install-cwr-save-root-revert-stock-image.html This one? tried it, no luck

Bummer. Yeah, that's the link. You might want to look in Nookdev too. They oulined a process that was similar, but they said you have to do the image restore AND unregister... though it's been a while since I've looked at it. It might be more helpful. Good luck in getting it back to stock.

This is unfortunate. I had been under the impression it was a LOT easier to get back to stock. (I still bet someone who knows will give you the right guidance.)
Oh well, I guess it's a good argument for using SD card booting exclusively -- I can't wait for a final CM7 SD Card ISO.

[Q] Fc's on most of the GB roms

I've tried Apex, Mosaic, dlev and Continuum roms... With all but continuum, I get force close's after restoring apps/data in Tibu.
Example, I wipe data cache, dalvic and then flash one of the roms. Once it's booted up, I go into Titanium, do a batch restore of apps, and once it finishes, I go to start Angry Birds and it fc's. It can be any of the apps, its not just directed at Angry Birds. (it even happens with stock apps, like Memo or messaging)
So, last night I flashed back to Continuum and not one fc... but, I'm missing some of the goodies from the other roms. EDT tweaks for one!!!
Anyway, I guess my question is what's the diff between Continuum and the other roms, as far as this specific problem?
Thanks

seems like an issue with data restore in tibu...idk why it worked for continuum but...try and delete all the backups and run a fresh batch backup now that they are running. then flash another rom and see if that still happens.

studacris said:
seems like an issue with data restore in tibu...idk why it worked for continuum but...try and delete all the backups and run a fresh batch backup now that they are running. then flash another rom and see if that still happens.
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Will give this a shot!!! Thank you!

FridayJ said:
Will give this a shot!!! Thank you!
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Damn! Didn't work... but, I perhaps made a mistake by wiping data/factory reset along with the cache's....
I just don't understand, because really, it's not rocket science and yet I don't see other people with the issue!

Check for tibu updates, and go into preferences and force tibu to use system busybox instead of its own (option is at bottom of pref menu). I would also check for updates to superuser.

mrhaley30705 said:
Check for tibu updates, and go into preferences and force tibu to use system busybox instead of its own (option is at bottom of pref menu). I would also check for updates to superuser.
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Giving this a shot as well, thanks!

I had a similar problem as well. I tried the Dlev and Obsession ROMs but got FC's on some apps on both using the same method as you described. I tried one more time with Obsession but also installed the Symply GSII theme before restoring apps and everything worked fine. I'm not sure why that would have made a difference but my phone has been working great for a couple weeks now.

Well, I'm not sure what worked and what didn't... I tried the busybox change but still had fc's when I installed dlev's rom. So, I tried Apex again, and so far, no fc's. I just don't get it...
Thanks for everyone's input!

[Q] Why are old apps already installed after fresh wipe and ROM install?

Hey guys,
I'm new at posting in the forums, so I apologize if I have put this in the wrong section. I read a lot of posts, but this is the first time i have posted a thread, ever. =P
Anyway, I have a Rooted White T-Mobile G1, I was running the somewhat recent build of Roalex's COS-DS ROM, and it started to get really sluggish and I was having a few other problems. (I love that ROM, and he has done a great job, I just felt like a change.) So I went to install Ginger Yoshi 1.4 after doing a nand backup, SD Wipe, and SuperWipe. Once i finished installing the ROM, I rebooted my phone and it started fine and everything. Then it asked me to choose which home I wanted... Which was confusing, considering it was a fresh wipe. I should only have 1 Home launcher on there. I realized that I have several apps from past times. (as in, a WHILE ago. I haven't had these apps for over a month easily...) I tried another wipe and install. Still to no avail... I did some searching and I couldn't find anything that could help me. Sorry for the long post, but I wanted to explain in some detail. Anyone have any Suggestions?
Thanks in advance!
--Doogle

I don't know this rom, but nowadays many roms have a backup functionality included and they are backing up the old (g)apps, flash the rom and re-install (some of) the old apps again.
"Some" because normally there is a list of apps to be backed up and re-installed. If your launcher is on that list and the rom has a different one pe-installed you then have two.
If you want to be sure to get a "clean" installation, use
Code:
fastboot erase system -w
Or flash ohsaka super wipe before flashing the rom.
Sent from my Gingerbread on Dream using XDA App

AndDiSa said:
Or flash ohsaka super wipe before flashing the rom.
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Sorry, I should have specified, the "SuperWipe" that I mentioned above, is Ohsaka Super Wipe... I have flashed it many times, and reflashed the ROM many times as well... Still having the apps installed. The wierdest part of it all, is that they don't seem to be using my sd card space OR internal space, almost as if they are somehow from the EXT4 partition I have, and they never got erased... The odd thing is, is that I never figured out how to move stuff to EXT, so there shouldn't be anything on there...

My guess would be that these "old" apps were downloaded originally from the market. If you are registering the phone with the same account you were using before, the market will download and install all the apps again from the market.

samandiriel said:
My guess would be that these "old" apps were downloaded originally from the market. If you are registering the phone with the same account you were using before, the market will download and install all the apps again from the market.
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Well the reason it couldn't be that, is that I actually don't have a data plan. I always skip sign in, and then enable WiFi. So the apps wouldn't be able to download until after I was signed in to my account. Yet, they are there right when I start :/
This is a very odd, occurance. Haha. Thanks you two for your responses though.
Sent from my Sapphire/Dream using XDA App

[Q] slow boot

I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.

vega509 said:
I've had my phone @ 1 month, and other than rooting it I never had to reboot. I used Hasoon's Desire_C_All-In-One_Kit_v2.0 to install the recovery, root, and superuser. I still have the stock ROM and software. I have installed NovaLauncher, AvastMobile Security, Titanium Backup Pro, and Holo Lockscreen. I haven't disabled or uninstalled any of the apps that came on the phone (Bell). For what ever reason today, when I hit the power button to wake the phone it went into slow motion for almost a minute, then seemed fine. My calendar and contacts ended up all messed up. So I restored ContactStorage with Titanium Backup which recommended a reboot. I held the power button until the Restart menu appeared and hit restart. The phone shut down and rebooted, which seemed slow to me, roughly a minute to get to the Sense Lock screen, and another 30 seconds to get to the Holo Lock Screen. Once the lockscreen was engaged the home screen appeared, but the phone was very sluggiish for @ another minute, then all seems fine.
Is this amount of time normal to restart the phone? or has something been changed somehow?
thanks in advance.
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The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
P.S.
[@ = at (example i was @ Daniels place last night)/ name marker (example @me4488)]

me4488 said:
The stock rom is pretty slow, and the stock launcher being there (since you haven't uninstalled any bloatware) doesn't help out to make it faster.
You can try installing a custom kernel. Links are in the index thread. That could help you speed up a little.
What I would recommend is switching to CM10 or any of the roms based on it.
So bottom line, yeah with the stock rom its pretty normal to get a lot of lag.
P.S.
[@ = at (example i was @ Daniels place last night)/ name marker (example @me4488)]
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to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?

vega509 said:
to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
Remember to always Hit Thanks when people help you, and whenever you use someones work, or if you appreciates someone work, and also the verifications stop after 10 posts i think, which is when you are able to post in the development section as well

penguin449 said:
Try out Rom toolbox.. or any app that can force un-install other apps and make sure to not remove anything important (Common sense eh)
Also consider flashing a custom Rom, they can help with bloatware issues, everything (I think) can be found in the index so start there.
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I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be uninstalling the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.

vega509 said:
I've installed Rom Toolbox Lite, and froze a lot of the bloatware. Sped things up quite noticeably. I froze the HTC lockscreen app, but it appears to be still running.Should I uninstall it?
As I install apps to replace the clock, calendar etc should I also be installing the same original apps?
I haven't tried the backup or nandroid backup yet. Is this considered a replacement for Titanium? Are the nandroid backups the same as those done from the bootloader?
I've been looking for a tutorial but have not found any. Does anyone have a link to one?
Sorry for all the questions, and thanks again for all the help.
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The backups that you take from recovery are called nandroid backups For the lockscreen, take a backup of the apk in your sdcard then delete it from system/app. If it works then great, if not then paste your apk back to system/app You are doing this at your own risk!

vega509 said:
to remove bloatware, will Titanium backup do, or would it be better to use NoBloat?
thanks again, for replies in both threads.
ps when do these Image Verification entries stop?
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You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.

me4488 said:
You can use titanium backup. It's the one I prefer. But there are several more that are pretty good, just look for them. =3
I think that is antispam, so it should be after 10-20 posts, when the restriction on posting in the development forums lifts.
P.S. Make a nandroid backup from recovery every week or two or before you make major changes. If the system is stable make another one so that in case you decide to do something else you have your phone ready.
Restoring from backup deletes all the whatsapp and IM messages up until the day you made the backup, so take that in mind.
Keep the last 2 of them as a backup of the backup on your PC at all times. It's a lifesaver.
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I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.

aashay960 said:
I agree. I always keep 3 backups with me (not that anyone asked )
1. Stock Clean Unrooted (my very first nandoid)
2. A Sense Custom Rom (rev sense5)
3. A cm10 Custom Rom (cm10)
Every two weeks I try to update my current backup. And yeah, keeping your backups in your PC is good.
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At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"

me4488 said:
At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i just keep a backup of apps and sms and contacts as ive only got an 8gb sd before a 2gb :crying:

me4488 said:
At least I know I'm not the only one.
Yay for "better safe than sorry" and "you can never be too prepared"
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i do neither, i have no back ups, currently my phone is just sitting in fastboot somewhere in my room waiting for the CM7 kernel.. until then i just don't bother using it xD I have my 4x, Galaxy w, and my new (old) hTC Dream

thanks to all who have helped!!
I have uninstalled 69 apps that are either bloatware from Bell and HTC, or are apps I would never use. I used Titanium to freeze the apps 1st, and see if there were any ill effects. Once I determined that what was froze did not affect any other apps, I backed up the frozen apps (batch), and then uninstalled the frozen apps (batch again).
One big plus by using Titanium to remove bloatware was when the uninstall finished, it did not uninstall 2 of the apps I had froze, getting info on these apps showed they were tied to the ROM, Picasa Web Album, and Google Play Music.
Updating CWM to the latest 6.0.3.0 was also a bonus, as ROM Manager now works for Nandroid backups without having to reboot manually (remove and replace the battery).
I will eventually get around to trying custom ROM's when time permits. For now I'm trying different apps such as calendars, keyboards, and launchers. With the multitudes of available apps, anyone have suggestions for keyboards, calendars, and launchers. I've just installed NovaLauncher and ClockQ.
When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall the same apps that came with the phone?
thanks again to all.

Well keyboard I use stock cm10 don't use calender and for launcher switch between holo launcher HD and sf launcher
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Launcher. Nova. Always.
Keyboard. SwiftKey. Always
Clock. Android 4.2 clock. Look in the themes and apps section.
Edit - If you use another launcher than you can not use htc widgets.. So as i use nova, i always use player pro as a music player.

vega509 said:
When alternative apps are installed such as calendars, is it preferable to uninstall or freeze the same apps that came with the phone?
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for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?

vega509 said:
for example:
If I keep ClockQ should Clock be uninstalled or frozen?
if I install business calendar should Calendar be uninstalled or frozen?
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Have a look . http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897286
Backup, uninstall, if it causes problems restore.