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I'm new to this rom cooking business here so i wanted to see what everyone wanted out of a ROM. I've already made something with the help of all folks on XDA but i'm not sure if this is something i want to release because its not really any different than the roms that are already out there except its probably slower
The idea of this is for everyone to tell me what they want in a rom and maybe some advice in cooking ROMs would be nice.
My Ideas:
1. A lite ROM
2. an SPB ROM (of course you would have bought SPB mobile shell to use this)
3. A touch flo 3d rom (Just because i love itje and chalid's ROMS)
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
3. ALL included games
4. perhaps a new panel or two
5. instant messaging
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
Just things that I would like... not sure how feasible some are, but definitely a wish list.
1. A TF3D version that is capable of handling AVRCP and A2DP correctly!!! (like daran clarkes)
2. Voip
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
Agreed upon the TF3D..that is deffinatly a must! IN PORTRAIT AND LANDSCAPE
ALL MS Office Apps
All Stock Apps + Additional ones from diff roms
A few new panels
Full QWERTY Keyboard
(Xperice is good, but i dont like the blackstone layout for dialer nor password screen) I like the metal brush look like the stock one had
gregnm369 said:
1. Touchflo 3D... that is a MUST for me
2. ALL Microsoft apps included with X1. I lose MS notes program with Xperience
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Are you talking about One Note? I can definitely add that back. The one i already cooked i removed that too.
3. ALL included games
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By All included games do you mean Sudoku and Bejwelled? I believe they are both shareware... Would anyone be interested in having emulators in there although they don't quite work without the WVGA fix?
4. perhaps a new panel or two
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I had originally removed panles but maybe that is another ROM i will create. One with Panels, One without plus TFL3D and one with Both.
5. instant messaging
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Any objections to Beejive? and fring?
6. more stable bluetooth
7. wifi networking / UMA calling
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These two i have no idea how to fix but i do have a lot of free time
achmed20 said:
basicly just a fast default ROM without anything special.
so lightweight plx!?
so i can install TF3D instead of manilla (a2dp, seems faster too)
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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Are you talking about the TF3DBETA2 that is out? Thats the one i'm working off of with adding touchflo3d. Its modded with itje's beautiful touch of blue stuff but i might be changing that all to red. I have to figure out how to edit manila files.
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yep! thats the one im talking about. i read that it has propper a2dp support while the manilla doesnt have. havnt had a chance to test it yet since my car radio got stolen last month
oh and plz ... if there has to be TF3D on teh ROm, DONT mod it with colors. turning the tf3d into blue is easy, but making it black aggain is kinda impossible cause i havnt found the darn skin/cab for it yet.
Hmmm well thats interesting. I was going to make it similar to itje's touch of blue but i was going to make it red but you have a valid point. I'll release those as cabs if i can find a free cab creation program.
I agree with the OP on his first suggestion;
A lite rom for each WM build, with updated drivers/tweaks and a selection of cabs for commonly used applications so we can pick and choose what we install.
I don't much like TF3D or Panels, I prefer SPB applications (low resource use and better customisation, IMHO).
Of course "tweaks and drivers" can sometimes be a matter of opinion, but as far as ROMs go I'd like any available choice to be mine. So if there's a choice between two or more Ati driver dlls, for example, to provide the ddls for download to be installed at the user's discretion.
Even an untweaked lite ROM for each WM build would be good, so we can experiment with tweaks and configuration as we see fit.
Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Whoa for each WM build? There are hundreds of builds out there. I will update the builds as i find out about them but i don't think i'll be cooking a ROM for each build out there. I think i'm going to start with a lite rom.
Question to all. Do you want panel manager installed so you have the flexibility to install the panels or just blank. If i don't install panels i'm going to try and remap the the panel buttion to a start button.
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Panels are cool IMHO
I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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I would love to see a rom that is as close to stock as possible regarding content.
A stock rom with tweaked settings for performance. No added programs (such as TF3D, games, plugins, apps etc.)
Then provide links links to cab files containing new apps and so on.
Etc. a cab for TF3D, cab for Blackstone Dialer, cab for Blackstone keyboard and so on.
That way people can install those seperately and get their phone 100% like they want it.
The main problem with most roms is that people do not want all of it so by making a single clean stock rom containing only updated apps, drivers and tweaks and then making cab files available that would certainly make more users switch.
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Agreed 100%.
I hope you make a basic tweaked rom where you can add or remove your cabs. so you can easily update de progs by uninstall the old cab and replace it with the new version.
I'm going to start working on a Lite ROM tonight when i get home. I'm going to try a performance tweak that i've done before..... Hopefully i don't brick my phone
As many of those who responded:
- TF3D
- All stock apps* (Yes, i want OneNote, i use it at work and it is great)
- All stock games*
- to be stable enough, to use for few months without worrying about flashing again..
*about stock apps and games, it is ok also to remove them from the ROM but at least provide them as cabs.
basically a FAST rom, these little devices are nice, but the small lags are quite annoying when you are in a hurry (like when you slide the keyboard to write someone s name to cal them but then you slide it back because you want to phone without the keyboard extended)
I'd agree on most points!
A great idea to start cooking
I think it would be pretty neat if you could cook a rom with all the stuff (TF3D, panels manager and so on) but make the apps uninstallable, if possible and please please please leave the tf3d in black I just love the whole stuff on may phone in black!
p.s.: did you see the ripped max 4G contacts app? its much better than the htc and windows one. I installed it today and its really smooth!
Thanks in advance!
You have a problem with the speed of the screen rotation? I haven't seen this on any of the roms i've used with the exception of my current one lol.. but i think i screwed something up.
Does anyone have a clean WM 6.1 ROM for the Rhodium? Something that has no HTC enhancements.
Like this 6.5.1 : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=551282&highlight=clean
What I actually looking for is a completely clean ROM with only QuickGPS, USB connection popup & HTC Keyboard. No other extras. Anything like that out there?
I did a lot of searching but found nothing. Ill even cook if Im forced to. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks in advance!
There are some "LITE" roms out. But I do not think they are that stripped out (only Quickgps, USB Connection & keyboard).
Try contacting At0mang. He might be able to customize a ROM for you.
Or you can try one of his LITE roms (Fusion V5.5 Lite CHome HTC Dialer)
clean rom with Touchflo is what im looking for, either wm6.1 or 6.5.
if anyone has a link, plz be nice post them..
May not be exactly what you're looking for, but it is a very clean, lightweight, reliable 6.1 ROM. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4472884&postcount=39
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May not be exactly what you're looking for, but it is a very clean, lightweight, reliable 6.1 ROM. Here's the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4472884&postcount=39
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This rom does not support anything else but the stock hardware keyboard layout, also its based on a Raphael ROM.
Yes thing is the best alternative for WM6.1 a.t.m and its what I am using. But it has lots for things which I dont use and they just take up space. Like : RSS, Worldcard, Streaming media, Touch Off etc, and it doesnt have HTC Keyboard. On a clean start the ROM has 350MB storage space. But the WM 6.5.1 one that I linked above has 385MB (and it already has HTC Keyboard and USB popup).
Ive pmed At0mang, lets see what he says.
Please update the thread with your findings. I'm in the same boat as you. Looking for the Cleanest, Latest and most Stable build with just enough programs and cabs installed to make all the TP2 features functional with Manila 2.1.
I don't get it. I used to have a Hermes (64MB TOTAL RAM) with duttythroy's SUPA DUPA LITE (WM6.1) and after boot it would ahve 30MB Free RAM. I can't find beyond 145MB free RAM on the cleanest of the cleanest and the lightest of the lightest Rhodium ROMS, a device with 288 MB RAM (This is ofcourse with no Manila)
Do the drivers really take up that much space?
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Please update the thread with your findings. I'm in the same boat as you. Looking for the Cleanest, Latest and most Stable build with just enough programs and cabs installed to make all the TP2 features functional with Manila 2.1.
I don't get it. I used to have a Hermes (64MB TOTAL RAM) with duttythroy's SUPA DUPA LITE (WM6.1) and after boot it would ahve 30MB Free RAM. I can't find beyond 145MB free RAM on the cleanest of the cleanest and the lightest of the lightest Rhodium ROMS, a device with 288 MB RAM (This is ofcourse with no Manila)
Do the drivers really take up that much space?
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From what I know is that 288MB is not the total amount of usable RAM either. Some of it is video RAM, but how much I dont know. On the Diamond for example the RAM was 192MB. 64MB Video memory and 128MB RAM.
As for the ROM (512MB) most of it gets wasted on things I dont use. The max Ive found free in a ROM was 385MB. That was the link I posted above. Its a WM 6.5.1 ROM but as such not very stable.
I am making a list of things I want removed and others that I want kept, I will post them here as soon as Im done.
So far thanks for everyone's support.
Edit : Here is what I would like the ROM to be like
Based on WM 6.1
All HTC things removed (even thier 3G icons & Commanager, I will install my own) execpt for USB connection popup, G-sensor calibrator, Kinetic scrolling, The new bluetooth stack, HTC End key, HTC Large start menu & Camera.
Some Microsoft things that should be removed : Calculator (if nothing depends on it), Office Mobile, Windows Live & Messenger, Games, extra themes (leave only one, the default one), Ringtones (leave only one, the default one), All the non essential stuff in "My Documents" folder, like Pictures, Wallpapers, Templates for camera & MMS.
Things in the settings folder that I want removed : Encryption, Clear Storage & Connection Setup (the thing that sets-up carrier setting. These I can do myself).
Based on WM 6.5
All the above plus remove IE6 (not PIE) because most of the web plugins dont work with it and I use Opera anyway. Only reason to keep PIE is because I need it for LogMeIn. Also remove honey-comb start menu and use the default WM one.
One thing to keep in mind is that I have a Swedish Touch Pro 2. So I would like to keep the files require to do swedish input via the hardware keyboard.
I dont really think anything else could be removed without causing harm to the basic functions. Although Im open for suggestions.
So any ROM developer up for it ?
Edit 2 : Some other things that can be removed : Error Reporting, Help, Remote Desktop & Search.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618063
WM6.1_21048_M2.1 Jackos Oldschool ROM v1.1
it's good
Hm, the last recommended thread just says 'nothing here' in all posts
Did you ever get one?
I really want a blank WM 6.1 with just the enablers for the various hardware features (GSM, UMTS/HSPA, GPS, aGPS, WLAN, camera, hardware keyboard, etc). No HTC keyboard, thank you very much
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Noob on this forum.
I was wanting to know if there is a custom ROM out there only using SBP Mobile Shell 3.5?
I have tried a few different ROMs but I keep crashing whenever I put SPB on there. And All of them eat a lot of memory when multiple UI are loaded.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Ro
ROBOHOLIC said:
Sorry if this is the wrong place to post. Noob on this forum.
I was wanting to know if there is a custom ROM out there only using SBP Mobile Shell 3.5?
I have tried a few different ROMs but I keep crashing whenever I put SPB on there. And All of them eat a lot of memory when multiple UI are loaded.
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks Ro
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I don't think there's going to be one in the future, unless SPB provides Mobile Shell for free. Chef's cannot provide ROMs with commercial software on them -- that's frowned upon.
They may be able to provide a ROM with a trial-version of SPB Mobile Shell, but then the user is either gonna have to purchase a license or uninstall it. Then they're left with a basic 6.5 ROM with Titanium, which is something a user can start with rather than end up with!
i have ran SPB shell on a few different roms ie. TwoPumpChumps rom and a few others without a problem..only drawback is that ram hangs around 50-58 % when running for a while. but everything works smoothly
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i have ran SPB shell on a few different roms ie. TwoPumpChumps rom and a few others without a problem..only drawback is that ram hangs around 50-58 % when running for a while. but everything works smoothly
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What Cook, said. See my setup below. I am running NRG Photon Titanium(non TF3D ROM).
Perfect ROM for SPB Shell
I too tried a million different ROMS and finally, it was agent_47's RHODIO ROM that I loaded up and stayed smooth with SPB on top. Camera works, I can watch a normal divx compressed, 700 Meg movie file on TCPNP or whatever that player's called, and I'm using 5 fully loaded desktops on lifestyle and one on professional. It's a dream setup! Just use a class 6 micro sdhc and install everything there NOTHING into the device.
As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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That seems interesting. I want a ROM that is clean of all crappy slow programs or a way to clean my current ROM so I can get rid of all Touchflo and slow programs and such.
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i could see your signature rom is Lauretius 3.5, that is at the moment by daeron's benchmark the fastest ROM, if you want something else faster than that, get yourself a HD2.
please stop spamming the thread with your "I want this!!! I want that!!!"
I cooked my one from Ervius... fast and stable 28004 (I will upgrade soon)... no htc ****ty staff (except some tools). I can post you somewhere while I do not share it public until one bug is solved - when I open SMS, close and open another, outlook shuts down. But if you do not mind about this little bug and if you are able to customize your startmenu (via copying the items in windows/start menu folder)... it is not problem you could be my first tester
otherwise - i can share one significant information - after SR only 29% of RAM occupied
I want the fastest and stable ROM without the buggy and slow TouchFlo 3D interface!
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everyone wants the same like u
to be honest im also sick and tired of all this HTC customizing, TouchFlo, Sense etc.. Perhaps it makes sense on HD2, Ive had one for a couple of days and it was moving ok with its SnapDragon of 1GHz, but for HD Sense interface is simply unusable for a regular business-like usage...
Just use wm6.5's own interface Titanium.
Or even faster, use the standard wm6.1 interface
Just uncheck TouchFlow or Sense in your settings->today menu
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What about SPB Mobile Shell for an alternative UI?
I understand the latest version is fast and highly customisable.
I think it will work with 6.5 so you get the benefits of the new OS and a new UI?
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SPB works great on any ROM. just switch off the touchflo/Sence.
The only prob is you cant use a ROM with HTC messaging in a threaded mode.
A half a year i heaving trouble with flashing new roms and they all unstable ... I appreciate the time of developers ,they wants to do something really useful, however to me it does not enough good for everyday use ..
So, i finished my job with official release of rom for HD and I installed a new SPB mobile shell and that is most stable combination for me..All shortcuts that I want is there... No bugs...
Or try iPhoneToday, the fastest UI I've ever tested, and very simple. Perhaps too simple for fans of SPB, but I like iPhoneToday.
Well, I would say nothing will satisfy you unless you upgrade your device aka HD2. Cos the combination of WM6.5, WM6.5.3 with Sense 2.5 is meant for higher spec HD2.
I would think WM6.5.1 with Sense 2.1 is still acceptable.
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As the title says, I want a ROM with some other GUI than Touchflo 3D, Im so sick of the slowness, buggyness, laggness of Touchflo >_<
Arent there any really fast GUI somewhere?
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Get Dutty's 4.3 for 6.1 thats the fastest you can possibly have, fast TF3D haven't spot any bugs but yeah, its for 6.1 so it wont have the added features like the Manila 2.5 (using Dutty's Holy Grail) although its a lot slower, its manageable and if you use Titanium only, its actually fast.
Then there's the PointUi..although its looks cool at start, fast by the way...but i got bored of it faster than the default titanium and TF3D.
Default Titianium is good with 6.5 TouchFlo interface with sliding left or right is crap after using it in realworld situations.
which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
try this
there is ROM without manila http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
I use it with SPBMS
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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if you're just going to use spb mobile shell, no need to look for a rom that is super light, even if it has manila, just disable it and you should be good to go. problems sometimes with super light is they may have 'overlooked' some parts resulting to a rom with bugs.
Like I said a while ago, Dutty's 4.3 final was the fastest I have tested. disable TF3D then it wont use up additional resources and maintain somewhere 17%-20% (with TF3D around 33%) what you should be looking for is a very stable one and so far this 4.3 is bug free. then you can enjoy ur spb interface. but feel free to try the latest release by others...just my two cents.
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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Johnpatcher. Its old, but awsome.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=472972
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which rom is the best for spb mobile shell? any super lite rom out there instead of the old onkolog one?
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I am using Topix 3.1.1 ( windows 6.1 ) with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, i have about 116 mb free memory ( HTC Touch HD ).
I have tried many roms and Topix is great with SPB Mobile Shell 3.5.
Get a rom with manila 2.1, live happy.
Manila 2.5 is cool but too slow on this device.
Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
Also if You interest on trying stock like and self customizable ROM, try kwbr ROM : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811121
fast, stable and good battery life..
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NRG needs to be customized to work faster. I find it very fast. But I don't use all of the tabs, and I overclock my CPU to 710.
Did you install the newest version, listed in my signature?
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
About tabs, you can disable some, just swipe to settings tab on HTC Sense, choose "personalize" then "Home screen tabs", uncheck tabs you want to remove.
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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I just flashed my custom ROM to the NRG ROM of 14th October and I don't have any issues with slowness...
My phone is faster than every before.
Did you flashed the latest version of NRG rom?
I'm suprised you're having issues with NRG's ROM, I find it very fast.
If you want to try overclocking, check out the utilities in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
If you want a fast rom, use a valkyre or jackoss
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How do I customize it to make it faster? Where is this overclocking app at, and how do I remove some of the tabs?
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Where to start? The following is a subset of my phone settings. I've been tweaking them for months, and I would be hard pressed to provide a full list.
The OC app is at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374
As to customizing, the setting tab will allow you to remove the tabs you don't use. I found that I actually only use 4 of them. The rest just take up memory.
I also use BsB Tweaks (in the Tools folder) to set a high glyph and IP cache.
The other thing to do is to go into the Settings and change the start menu to be the Sense version. This will give you and extra 30 Mb or so of memory, and this will make the device faster. Do this step last, because it will be difficult to get to the NRG Tools menu unless you revert back to the default WM start menus.
EDIT: But you should be aware that NRG is not customized for speed. There are faster ROMs available. But NRG has lots of nice stuff, and the latest operating systems and programs.
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Well I want one of the faster roms, I installed an Energy rom and my phone is so slow it's unbearable. Any suggestions?
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jackos rom without a doubt. --->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=632617
Keep in mind that it usually takes some time for a newly flashed ROM to "settle in". The performance you see right away is not indicitive of how the ROM will perform long term. Maybe files are still being setup? Not really sure why this is so. But don't freak out until you've used the ROM for a couple hours. Plus the battery meter will not be accurate. It needs to be calibrated by charging the phone to 100%, then down to 30%, and repeat a couple times.
If you've been using the ROM for a while, and done a few of the tweaks to streamline performance as other have suggested, its possible it was a bad flash. Task29 and start over.
But its also possible that a more lightweight ROM is for you. Energy is a nice balance of performance, aesthetics, and features. But some like to sacrifice some eye candy for a more lightweight ROM, like Jackos that someone else suggested.
I've used the EnergyROMs on my TP2, as well as Simplicity and Jackos, all are great roms. EnergyROMs have many cooked in useful apps and awesome features, Simplicity is lighter and well.. simpler than Energy and Jackos has amazing memory management and the best ROM if you're going for WM6.5.0.
I am a sucker for speed, and the fastest you can go is stock WM6.5 with no HTC Sense. I'm currently using Jackos SleekBasic with TouchFlo3D, just flashed yesterday, IMO its faster than all ROMs I tried except stock WM, its not really pretty and not many features, but I can live with it. Good batt life too...
OndraSter's WM 6.5 TF3D ROM is the fastest ROM I have ever used. Check it out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=642956&highlight=OndraSter
Jacko's is by far the cleanist Ive seen its actually functional and has 110mb free after 2nd reboot... Great rom's.. Not a nrg fan anymore either.. especially cause he doesnt bother to actually test them on the devices he makes them for.
I used a lot of ROMs from this forum, and I can confirm that the Jackos is the fastest and stablest that I tried (I'm actually using the smartmove flavour).
Ondraster's also is quite fast and stable, but I find that jackos looks better