Why would/should I flash my radio? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I just don't get it, why does the radio need to be flashed? Doesn't the stock work the same as others? TIA

Location location location. Some people find that certain radios work better in their area than others.
For the average consumer the stock radio works just fine.
Whatever you do you make sure to never pull the battery when flashing a radio update otherwise you will become the proud owner of an official android paperweight
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SphericalPuma said:
For the average consumer the stock radio works just fine.
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not completely true...Some radio changes allow better compatibility with OS updates. The G1 had an updated radio for 1.5 and Froyo comes with a new radio for the nexus with updated encoding/multimedia management handlers

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Radio update question

might sound like a dumb question:
do I need to flash a radio separate to update it, or will it update when I use the latest rom. So far, I have only used modaco desire roms from day one rooting of the nexus. I use at&T, so maybe the radio updates arent necessary?
Well, if the ROM is cooked with the radio update, you don't need to do it separately... else, it is recommended... especially if your are using a newer ROM with the latest RIL libraries [for stability and compatibility sake]...

A few informations..

Hi,
I recently switched from a Xperia X10 to the Nexus One due to the lack of update from Sony Ericsson.
We can't unlock the bootloader the X10 so even if I flashed a lot of custom rom and root ect... It's my first time with kernels ect...
So I was wondering on how the kernel is important and if I well understood, he is the one that will put the driver for the hardware as it's the one that can increase audio and put 720p ect..
And I also see a lots of threads about radios ect... I totally understood how to flash it ect.. but what is it exactly ? Is it like a better frequence for your antenna or ??
I'm currently running kernel version : [email protected] and baseband version : 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2 and I have Passion Recovery.
Could you please indicate me a good combo of kernel/radio/rom that would give me 720p, running at least Froyo or Gingerbread (for flash) and that is stable with a good linpack/quadrant score.
Thanks in advance,
Zyryck
Simplest thing for you, CyanogenMod 6. It is FroYo, has the audio mod and 720p camera kernel. And you should already have the best Radio.
There is no reason to really mix and match stuff at all. The state of the development scene isn't that way anymore.
Some people do fiddle with kernels and Korean radios and such, but they do it because they like doing that sort of thing, not because they have to.
90% do not have to worry about those things. Install CyanogenMod 6 or some of the other popular mods in the development section and you should be happy.
Don't worry about the individual parts until you get used to things, and even then it won't be needed, just a hobby.
Ok thank you it is certainly what I'll take. But Cyan 6 or 6.1 ?
But I still don't know why Radios stand for.
And yes I'm one of those Guys that will flash to another roms every 2 Days but since Nexus S and new Phones are out I know Devs are leaving Nexus One so that's why I was asking forr a fast and a stable one.
So I'd just like to know what's the Radio ?
The radio is hardware/software that deals with the communications side of your phone. GPRS/HSDPA/WiFi etc.
That's what I was thinking about but then what are the differences between a radio on an other one ? Are there some faster than others ?
Plus Radios are generic ? It doesn't depend from your Carrier or Country
zyryck said:
That's what I was thinking about but then what are the differences between a radio on an other one ? Are there some faster than others ?
Plus Radios are generic ? It doesn't depend from your Carrier or Country
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If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
prettyboy85712 said:
If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
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Well I'm running 2.2.1 with 32.24.00.22U_4.03.00.21_2.
Should I update it to the one you said because I don't see anything going wrong. Except perhaps that when I connect to internet without Wifi it's written 2G but when I had my X10 it was either 3G or H so I don't know if it is related or not since I've only been able to connect to 2G with the Nexus even when it was not rooted and flashed to any rom, radio or kernel
Wild monks have pretty good kernels but I have no idea about what radio to choose cuz theres literally a lot of them. I just get really confused with them and
Still looking for a good radio tho.lol. But cyan mod is freaking awesome. Combined with inexus theme and it's the best ui interface I can find. plus I have swype too so I'm not going to give up my nexus any time soon until tegra 2 phones arrive
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I'm gonna wait before putting my hands on the Atrix and other tegra 2 phones because I want to see if there won't be any problem with the bootloader ect... Because getting stuck with a device that can't get bl unlocked is very very frustrating.
prettyboy85712 said:
If you're go to run Froyo you'll be required to update your radio to 32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08.
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That's actually not true.
There's no need to be messing with your radio unless you are having a specific problem. If your custom ROM requires a certain Radio to work, it will probably be included in the package anyway.
Flashing custom ROMS is almost completely safe but flashing Radios can lead to a bricked device in short-order.

[Q]Should I upgrade radio?

i have 4.06.00.12_7
what benefit is there? one problem i sometimes notice when making or getting phone calls nobody can hear me for the first 5s of the call...
and if an upgrade is in order what radio is recommended
running cm7
a lot of people have this problem. i dont think it is related to the radio. install the latest nightly or redstar kernel which seems to help. or try installing the dewonkificator
I don't think it is related to any ROM, I had it on stock, cm6 and cm7, seems to just be an n1 issue.
When people hear RADIO they think antenna and think that it's only for reception. The new radios include updated decoders also. This is why MUI-Dev and new roms NEED the 5.08+ Radios. The new OTA update (Gingerbread) includes the 5.08 Radio. You can even upgrade to 5.12 but at least use 5.08. There is no reason to be on version 4 anymore.
You can grab the newest radio here: http://www.myhangoutonline.com/downloads/category/19-radio
pinke123 said:
I don't think it is related to any ROM, I had it on stock, cm6 and cm7, seems to just be an n1 issue.
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It is absolutely ROM related. This was not an issue on CM6 nor the stock GB OTA. There are race conditions within the CM7 kernel causing the "wonk." Cyanogen and Team Douche are working the issues and have almost solved the problem. This problem is prevalent on alot of other ROMS as they are mostly based on CM7 as well.
i thinks will be related with camera .. because after i use ver 5.08 my movie is getting smoother..
matasapi said:
i thinks will be related with camera .. because after i use ver 5.08 my movie is getting smoother..
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That's due to the new decoders/encoders built into the new radio... This is why at this point in time everyone should be on either 5.08 or 5.12.
You need to be at least on 5.08 for some of the GB enhancements.

[RADIO] I9020XXKF1 Full Image [FASTBOOT] [UPDATE.ZIP]

Hello everyone.
I've extracted a full image of the new I9020XXKF1 radio, so it's not necessary that you are running I9020XXKD1 and upgrade via patch. You can now flash this radio from any other radio.
It has only been tested on the i9020t.
Currently, I've only released it in fastboot (raw) form. If there is an interest for update.zip format, I will release it as such.
You can download it here. Enjoy!
UPDATE: I have packaged an update.zip of the full radio image. You can grab it from the same link above.
Flashed this this morning and can day without a doubt people in the Houston Texas area should flash it right away. Much better signal for me.
P.s came from kd1.
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You are 12 hours to late, I already did that and even more - its the CWM zip file. And since we have a thread for radios - why are you opening a new one?
brainmaster said:
You are 12 hours to late, I already did that and even more - its the CWM zip file. And since we have a thread for radios - why are you opening a new one?
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What he said. Good effort though.
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thanks both of you
brainmaster said:
You are 12 hours to late, I already did that and even more - its the CWM zip file. And since we have a thread for radios - why are you opening a new one?
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Three things:
There is no direct exposure in the other thread stating that I9020XXKF1 is contained within.
Some people prefer their radio images in a format usable directly by fastboot.
Your image is about 1.5MB too large, as compared to all other full radio images released by Google directly. I've stripped mine down to conform with that format.
I'm not trying to criticize your release. Please, don't think that. I just want to offer the community options.
can anyone report different data speeds or just signal?
thanks
unforgiven512 said:
Three things:
There is no direct exposure in the other thread stating that I9020XXKF1 is contained within.
Some people prefer their radio images in a format usable directly by fastboot.
Your image is about 1.5MB too large, as compared to all other full radio images released by Google directly. I've stripped mine down to conform with that format.
I'm not trying to criticize your release. Please, don't think that. I just want to offer the community options.
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I'm not criticizing your work either, I'm just telling you that you could have posted it in that thread, since it is a radio thread.
Why do we need a new thread for one radio release?
Yeah I know what you're saying.
Just trying to make things more convenient for others, with the exposure on the main thread list. That is all.
mrpanic7 said:
can anyone report different data speeds or just signal?
thanks
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i can report that my data has been connecting faster. i flashed the zip this morning that brainmaster provided. i came from the KD1 radio. data speeds are exactly the same for me though.
Subjectively, it feels as if my radio has been more stable.
I haven't really done much testing in the speed department. I'll check it out, and report my findings. I will do both speed tests on the phone, as well as some tethering. I am located in an area where I consistently get 3-4 bars of HSPA+.
unforgiven512 said:
Subjectively, it feels as if my radio has been more stable.
I haven't really done much testing in the speed department. I'll check it out, and report my findings. I will do both speed tests on the phone, as well as some tethering. I am located in an area where I consistently get 3-4 bars of HSPA+.
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i agree, it feels more stable here too.
Can i apply the update (through flashing by cwm) with custom roms (nscollab)? I read somewhere that it was meant for stock only, and still confused about that fact.
SovereigN7 said:
Can i apply the update (through flashing by cwm) with custom roms (nscollab)? I read somewhere that it was meant for stock only, and still confused about that fact.
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working fine here. custom rom/kernel. its for the i9020t.
Awesome. Now I just gotta fix for double bln light and youtube playback issue
EDIT: Just curious if I did this right. My build number still says GRJ90 even though the baseband clearly says I9020XXKF1. I'm also on 2.3.5 android on nscollab .41
Radio won't change build number.
Good job

Updating my rooted (using pph's super-bootimg) Nexus 6.

Hi there! I'm currently on 6.0.1 (build MOB31E) and would like to update to the latest version of Android available for this phone, which I believe to be 7.1.1. So if I have flashed phh's super-bootimg, can I just flash the system.img from the latest factory image to go up to the latest version? Or is there other things I'd need to do? Maybe flash the radio? Or the bootloader?
Flash system, boot, radio and bootloader. After that just root your phone again.
Thank you!
Just for clarity, radio is not required. They are interchangeable between releases.
But presumably the newer radio offer some improvement, no? Or better question: It would get updated with an OTA, right?
karasuhebi said:
But presumably the newer radio offer some improvement, no? Or better question: It would get updated with an OTA, right?
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Yes, it would get updated with an OTA. No, it doesn't guarantee an improved experience. There's a thread here for recovery flashable radios which makes it easier to find which radio works best for your location/carrier.
ktmom said:
Yes, it would get updated with an OTA. No, it doesn't guarantee an improved experience. There's a thread here for recovery flashable radios which makes it easier to find which radio works best for your location/carrier.
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Oh cool. Thank you! How would I determine which one is best for me though? Just signal strength measurements?
It's mostly trial and error. You get to one you're happy with, then maybe test a new release occasionally. If there's not a functional difference that you notice, use the newest that gives you good coverage and data speeds. It's all very dependant on your location (matters much less in NYC than Podunk Florida) and carrier.
Read through that thread. It's discussed over and over ?.

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