What is the limitations of us porting ROMs from the Droid to the Milestone? Based on my research, both platforms are the same and the hardware is either identical or silimar (but 99% matching, with the exception of the Droid's CDMA radio).
I'd really like to see CyanogenMod on the Milestone, I think it would be a great ROM to have a play with. I just wanted to ask you guys and girls about it, before I run off and blow things up.
Please, no n00b comments. I know the Milestone and Droid are different (Milestone has a 600Mhz CPU and the Droid has a 550Mhz CPU?) and they both are GSM and CDMA respectively, but yeah.
Cheers,
Coburn.
You're right, they are extremely similar devices. The primary reason why this isn't possible is due to the locked bootloader - various checks are in place to make sure that the phone will only boot a kernel specifically built for the Milestone by Motorola.
Attempting to flash any Droid rom will result in a device that won't boot - you'll have to flash it with a stock sbf or with a nandroid backup, if your recovery still works.
A small correction, both the Droid and Milestone have identical CPUs. They're both 600MHz Cortex A8's, underclocked to 550MHz.
Yes, it will be possible when OUR bootloader will be unlocked. Works around KEXEC gave to us hope
beju69 said:
Yes, it will be possible when OUR bootloader will be unlocked. Works around KEXEC gave to us hope
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im still a nub when it comes to this moto stuff - how is the milestone bootloader being locked different to the dext?
Weird, u said its an A8 processor but an app I have called OSmonitor states that it an ARMV7, unless their just the same...
Qazz~ said:
Weird, u said its an A8 processor but an app I have called OSmonitor states that it an ARMV7, unless their just the same...
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ARM is the instruction set (What the CPU says)
Cortex A8 is the model number (What the CPU is)
The Milestone is dumb. It's a brilliant phone, but dumb.
A bad headphone jack, crippling lack of an unlocked bootloader, and silly reboots/wake up problems prohibit it from being epic.
Everything else is amazing.
Thats not so correctly !
In Europe is that not possible because its the different between GSM and CDMA !!
The Droid have CDMA and the Milestone in Europe have GSM ! Iam loocking for the develop Bootloader to flash other Roms on Milestone !!
When everybody have a idea or the answer ....pleas send me an PN !!
My friend is writing his new Programm its called recalc !! News comming soon .....
dodotech said:
Thats not so correctly !
In Europe is that not possible because its the different between GSM and CDMA !!
The Droid have CDMA and the Milestone in Europe have GSM ! Iam loocking for the develop Bootloader to flash other Roms on Milestone !!
When everybody have a idea or the answer ....pleas send me an PN !!
My friend is writing his new Programm its called recalc !! News comming soon .....
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i've pm you the link with the developer bootloader.
best regards
(no n00b comment mode) all discussions about locking/unlocking of milestone - must be only after you read info from this site http://and-developers.com/motorola_milestone
Enjoy!
P.S. developer bootloader (mbm v.90.80 dont let for you run unsigned kernel. seriously.) and if you try flash it - you can just brick your phone. You warned.
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Can we Install the "Motorola Droid FRF84B" Froyo Test Build for DROID to Milestone?
Found this @ Phandroid just now.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/29/motorola-droid-frf84b-froyo-test-group-build/
Can this work with our milestone???
din0_22 said:
Found this @ Phandroid just now.
http://phandroid.com/2010/06/29/motorola-droid-frf84b-froyo-test-group-build/
Can this work with our milestone???
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nope tried and prompted me to flash dunno maybe someone else can try
since this official maybe it was the way i tried to flash it hmmm should be signed and milestone only does signed roms not custom try rom manager and clockwork see if this boots gotta go now will try later hopefuly someone else tries
No, this will by no means work on the Milestone.
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damn I have a fealing that some telus goodies are about to drop
gemini002 said:
damn I have a fealing that some telus goodies are about to drop
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i am patiently waiting on this... hopefully telus releases the update soon.
anyway, since i am using this milestone telus in the U.S. via At&t, do you think i will lose unlock?
i sure hope not!
din0_22 said:
i am patiently waiting on this... hopefully telus releases the update soon.
anyway, since i am using this milestone telus in the U.S. via At&t, do you think i will lose unlock?
i sure hope not!
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nah once unlocked always unlocked can't really say much but there is a copy of froyo 2.2 milestone out there just need to get it soon
gemini002 said:
since this official maybe it was the way i tried to flash it hmmm should be signed and milestone only does signed roms not custom try rom manager and clockwork see if this boots gotta go now will try later hopefuly someone else tries
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this is not a ROM right. is just an update. me is trying now.
din0_22 said:
Can this work with our milestone???
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If it's Droid then it's for CDMA. I don't think it's a good idea to try it on Milestone.
This has been repackaged as a ROM. It will not work on the milestone, under any circumstances.
Could a moderator or the OP perhaps re-title this thread in light of the fact that the update in question will not work on a Milestone?
cmstlist said:
Could a moderator or the OP perhaps re-title this thread in light of the fact that the update in question will not work on a Milestone?
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Question is pertaining specifically with the title. It specifically states "DROID" and the question addresses if this will somehow work due to it being signed by motorola.
Perhaps, it will be helpful if there is a developer who can torn the package not to include the radio which is the only difference of milestone to a droid.
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Question is pertaining specifically with the title. It specifically states "DROID" and the question addresses if this will somehow work due to it being signed by motorola.
Perhaps, it will be helpful if there is a developer who can torn the package not to include the radio which is the only difference of milestone to a droid.
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The title of this post seems to suggest that we, the Milestone owners, can accomplish this installation and it would somehow invite us to do so.
Motorola signed the Droid firmware to run on a Droid, not a Milestone. There are additional internal hardware differences beyond the radio, and there are software differences that permeate several components of the OS.
din0_22 said:
Question is pertaining specifically with the title. It specifically states "DROID" and the question addresses if this will somehow work due to it being signed by motorola.
Perhaps, it will be helpful if there is a developer who can torn the package not to include the radio which is the only difference of milestone to a droid.
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If it were so cut and dried, we'd have custom roms by the butt load.
It isn't
I really wish people would stop assuming that life is simple because almost every other android device has custom roms...
The milestone could have custom roms right now and it wouldn't make a difference, because we couldn't load them.
Here is how to update your motorola droid to android 2.2 froyo FRF84B.
tipsneeded.com/update-motorola-droid-to-android-22-frf84b/
cmstlist said:
Could a moderator or the OP perhaps re-title this thread in light of the fact that the update in question will not work on a Milestone?
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cmstlist said:
The title of this post seems to suggest that we, the Milestone owners, can accomplish this installation and it would somehow invite us to do so.
Motorola signed the Droid firmware to run on a Droid, not a Milestone. There are additional internal hardware differences beyond the radio, and there are software differences that permeate several components of the OS.
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If it were so cut and dried, we'd have custom roms by the butt load.
It isn't
I really wish people would stop assuming that life is simple because almost every other android device has custom roms...
The milestone could have custom roms right now and it wouldn't make a difference, because we couldn't load them.
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Per your request, title has now been changed.
Moved to general since it isn't related to development.
This will not work on Milestone, it is built for Droid which is CDMA. Droid and Milestone are two different devices, they require completely different ROMs. There is no Froyo ROM for Milestone out there yet, neither official nor leaked.
Please be patient.
Thanks
Hello! all Xda users, im a noob and, you know.
The motorola milestone is the same of MOTOROLA XT 720??
MOTOROLA XT 720 have custom roms? like froyo?
if afirmative, tell me please.
excuse mi bad english.
thx
no custom roms due to encrypted bootloader
1 more question...
The motorola Motoroi XT720 ( sholes KOREAN )
Can be rooted and overclocked?
thx for help
Can. Please research in forum before asking question.
tomeu0000 said:
1 more question...
The motorola Motoroi XT720 ( sholes KOREAN )
Can be rooted and overclocked?
thx for help
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hackers already found a way to put custom roms into droid x (locked bootloader). it's a matter of time before the method being applied to other moto phones since they are almost the same.
pijes said:
hackers already found a way to put custom roms into droid x (locked bootloader). it's a matter of time before the method being applied to other moto phones since they are almost the same.
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Unfortunately, these are not "real" ROMs, as they can't replace the kernel or bootloader. For many people this will be enough, if you just want to remove crapware or install JIT, app2sd etc, but they can't do anything you couldn't already do with root access, they just simplify it.
However, there won't be any Froyo ROM:s until an official Froyo ROM is available.
the theunlockr have root the older XT701
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/11/how-to-root-the-motorola-xt701/
and load a custom rom on the motorola xt701
http://theunlockr.com/2010/08/11/how-to-load-a-custom-rom-on-the-motorola-xt701/
can we do the same way to XT720 ?
I'm very interested to know if this is true too!
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I'm very interested to know if this is true too!
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Any Update to his Question???
Hiii All,
we noticed gingerbread rom ported to Droid, when to expect such from our Milestone Guru's??
how different the droid customized rom from milestone?
thnx to all
Kabaldan is making a ROM with Gingerbread, Look for CM post, last page...
He has problem with the radio...
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I have noticed that, thanks for replying.
but, as a Milestone user, can I try the droid ginger rom??
how much different is Milestone from Droid?
alijs said:
I have noticed that, thanks for replying.
but, as a Milestone user, can I try the droid ginger rom??
how much different is Milestone from Droid?
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No...Dont do that! You'd probably brick your device!
alijs said:
I have noticed that, thanks for replying.
but, as a Milestone user, can I try the droid ginger rom??
how much different is Milestone from Droid?
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_Droid#Motorola_Milestone
thank you guys
Depends on the milestone
I have a A854 CDMA milestone in Alaska, I run droid roms all the time..Only thing i have to change is the APns which can be a bugger...
icemanak said:
I have a A854 CDMA milestone in Alaska, I run droid roms all the time..Only thing i have to change is the APns which can be a bugger...
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I am fairly certain that the CDMA "milestone" is actually the droid, while the GSM verison with the locked bootloader is GSM. The roms are quite different from both phones. If I am incorrect, please correct me. (This is from my understanding and I take no responsibility if something happens to your device). Also, you should check the model in settings and system info and see if it says milestone or not. (I'm pretty sure it would say droid if its a droid and milestone if its a milestone) Once again anyone please feel free to correct me.
Please press the thanks button if I helped!
I believe you are correct sir...its a rebranded bastard step child of a droid...it says A854 in the model settings...no milestone anywhere in system info. Yes the GSM versions are quite differnet
thanks all for feedback
I've been hesitant to try my hand at flashing ROMs because I'm in Australia using an AT&T variant N1, my carrier uses 850Mhz as the 3G frequency (Telstra) which is same as AT&T.
I've read up on the general flashing instructions for cyanogen and feel comfortable to proceed (I have basic linux knowledge as well), but only sticking point is I'm a bit unclear as to whether there is any difference for me, being the 850 variant.
My best guess is that its the same process, same files/build etc., just don't flash the radio? Is that correct? Can someone whose done it on AT&T variant confirm? THat would be really really good
I'm going to follow the instructions here, on a side note, is amon or clockwork the better option?
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Nexus_One:_Full_Update_Guide
There is absolutely no difference for you.
Radio frequencies aren't dependent on baseband (radio) build, they're a function of HW. You can flash everything, radios included.
Read the Wiki.
Yep, go right ahead and do whatever you want.
I've hacked mine to hell and back with no issues
ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
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ROMs, no, no difference. Basebands and radios are a bit of a different story, though...
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
OK thanks all
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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They aren't in Nexus, and they are exactly the same thing generally. Baseband = radio = SW that runs on baseband CPU.
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Good to know, I'll keep that in mind.
wintermute000 said:
do I NEED to flash the radio i.e. can I get away with not updating the radio component? Just super cautious as I don't want to be in the hunt for a replacement in case of bricking, with all the dual cores just round the corner as wlel
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If your radio is 4.06 or above, you don't need to flash it. If not - you do.
I'm on an att n1 on rogers and I've flashed everything from roms to radios and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
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just don't flash the korean radio..
btw:
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and never had a problem that a lil nandroid couldn't fix.
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nandroid ROCKS! big time.
saved my hd2 twice
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shreyas1122 said:
just don't flash the korean radio..
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Korean radio is fine. 5.08 was present on all the current Nexus One replacement phones, and 5.12 is present on Vodafone ones.
Any specific reason why you're avoiding it?
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Korean radio is fine.
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oh no! really?
some one told me not to since it's korean..?
I mean why the 'korean' in it's name otherwise?
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It's called the Korean one because it first came about in a KT OTA. It's fine to use on any N1.
You don't have to worry at all about flashing radios. All the frequencies work with all radios. Note that you need at least 5.08 radio on cyanogen to be able to use the 720p video camera.
Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Cool I better read up on nanddroid then!!!!
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Thats the spirit, nandroid is the best diagnostic tool ever... The ability to fix virtually any problem without a pc is one of my number one reasons I love android
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2.3 out doh
Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Gah unfortunately now wiser to wait for stock 2.3 OTA then Cyanogen to stabilise.... though having said that at least now I've got the answer to my original question, thanks again all.
Might just get me over the hump until I can get a non bootloader locked, non motoblur polluted dual core droid.
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Cm/ dev community are usually faster then the ota... Except for those who get it first
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True, i meant might as well see how OTA performs before taking the plunge, since my phone is currently stock standard
I have just purchased Verizon Galaxy TAB CDMA.
I am planning to use it in Wifi only mode and am not planning to subscribe to Verizon service.
Questions: Can I install GSM or Sprint CDMA ROMS or I should look for Verizon CDMA ROMS only? Can anyone recommend one?
Can someone reply please? I don't see this asnwered.
As far as I know it is possible. You just need to compile a special kernel, which I have no knowledge on how to do. Search the forumz. I know that there is information on how to instal a gsm rom on a verizon tab. Maybe that guy can help you.
Hit the thanks button if I have helped.
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First things first, have a little patience when asking questions, this forum isn't nearly as active as some of the others, and questions don't get immediately answered.
Second, you *WILL* brick your device if you install a GSM kernel on your CDMA device. The kernel is what supports the ROM and talks directly to your hardware. Obviously, the hardware on a CDMA device varies from a GSM device. If a kernel can be compiled to interact properly with an already built GSM ROM, than yes, in theory it does work (as can be seen with the Honeycomb port. The ROM port is built for CDMA, and a kernel was built to interact with that and the GSM device properly)
As far as I know it is possible. You just need to compile a special kernel, which I have no knowledge on how to do. Search the forumz. I know that there is information on how to instal a gsm rom on a verizon tab. Maybe that guy can help you.
Hit the thanks button if I have helped.
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btyork said:
First things first, have a little patience when asking questions, this forum isn't nearly as active as some of the others, and questions don't get immediately answered.
Second, you *WILL* brick your device if you install a GSM kernel on your CDMA device. The kernel is what supports the ROM and talks directly to your hardware. Obviously, the hardware on a CDMA device varies from a GSM device. If a kernel can be compiled to interact properly with an already built GSM ROM, than yes, in theory it does work (as can be seen with the Honeycomb port. The ROM port is built for CDMA, and a kernel was built to interact with that and the GSM device properly)
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Thank you so much for your replies. I did do search and did not find a conculsive answer so I had to ask. I agree with your point about being patient
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