T-Mobile G E 3G and H Networks - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I don't know if it's a coincidence or because of Cyanogen's Froyo rom, but ever since the 11th, I've had H a lot more often than 3G on my Nexus one.
I noticed H within a couple hours after flashing Cyanogen's RC1 Froyo rom and it's been mostly H with some 3G and E here and there.
Is H faster? I did a speed test* on H and got just under 1Mbit. I don't remember what I got on 3G last time I tested (Months ago).
*I was using the Xtremelabs Speedtest
Edit: I forgot to mention, that I've never seen H before Cyanogen's mod. I've used stock roms all the way up to Froyo before the 11th and only had 3G max.

Flawd said:
I don't know if it's a coincidence or because of Cyanogen's Froyo rom, but ever since the 11th, I've had H a lot more often than 3G on my Nexus one.
I noticed H within a couple hours after flashing Cyanogen's RC1 Froyo rom and it's been mostly H with some 3G and E here and there.
Is H faster? I did a speed test* on H and got just under 1Mbit. I don't remember what I got on 3G last time I tested (Months ago).
*I was using the Xtremelabs Speedtest
Edit: I forgot to mention, that I've never seen H before Cyanogen's mod. I've used stock roms all the way up to Froyo before the 11th and only had 3G max.
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the stock rom doesn't report H, it continues to show 3G, the only way to determine if one is on H in the stock rom is in the info panel(a ping test will cause it to switch from UMTS to HSDPA)

Jep4444 said:
the stock rom doesn't report H, it continues to show 3G, the only way to determine if one is on H in the stock rom is in the info panel(a ping test will cause it to switch from UMTS to HSDPA)
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Thanks for the reply!
In speed, is 3G faster than H? I know T-Mobile was rolling out HSPA+ but that was supposed to run 7MBit (I think).

Flawd said:
Thanks for the reply!
In speed, is 3G faster than H? I know T-Mobile was rolling out HSPA+ but that was supposed to run 7MBit (I think).
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H is faster.
Its the new HSPA/HSPA+ towers..

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Stupid newby question "H or 3G" ?

On my ATT TILT with custom ROM on ATT network in NYC I can see only "H" icon and never "3G" icon.
On original TILT user guide it says you get H when HSDPA is available and 3G when UMTS is available.
Is it "ok" and means I am getting fastest data access possible or should I be worried?
I tried to do some search here on forum and some research otherwise but frankly it's a bit confusing.
Thanks in advance
Anyone want to set this guy straight? I would do it but it seems that ATW has a problem with my corrections. I am 100% sure I have seen this question, what, about a dozen or so times?
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I knew that question was stupid from the start
NY_HAMMER said:
I knew that question was stupid from the start
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There are no stupid questions, just stupid people .
H is better than 3G. I have not seen a 3G icon since I parted ways with the stock AT&T ROM 10 months ago.
NotATreoFan said:
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people .
H is better than 3G. I have not seen a 3G icon since I parted ways with the stock AT&T ROM 10 months ago.
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I've not seen the 3G icon WITH the stock AT&T ROM in months. I don't think the ROM has anything to do with it.
TomH123 said:
I've not seen the 3G icon WITH the stock AT&T ROM in months. I don't think the ROM has anything to do with it.
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I just used KaiserTweak to get HSDPA. It is definitely better.
TomH123 said:
I've not seen the 3G icon WITH the stock AT&T ROM in months. I don't think the ROM has anything to do with it.
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Better rom, better radio, better signal. Of course the rom has something to do with it. I live in a small town outside of Boston that thinks that cell towers are a blight on the landscape ( they are probably right ) but we have no cell towers in town. I have had stock and custom roms.
With the stock rom and stock radio I get 3G most of the time but sometimes only E . With the upgraded rom and associated upgraded radio, I got 3G all the time and sometimes H . 3G and H are the same (to me anyway ).

[Q] 3g vs. H noob question

I'm running cognition 3.02 speed mod,and jk4 or kp1 and can't seem get the H signal, is it the rom Im using and is H all that much better than 3g. Thanks
rob1216 said:
I'm running cognition 3.02 speed mod,and jk4 or kp1 and can't seem get the H signal, is it the rom Im using and is H all that much better than 3g. Thanks
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H is basically like 3.5G. The speeds are all relative, and unless you are looking directly at the speeds, It's basically the same when your surfing the web. As for your connection, I haven't run cognition in a while so I don't know about that.
Dupontrocks11 said:
H is basically like 3.5G. The speeds are all relative, and unless you are looking directly at the speeds, It's basically the same when your surfing the web. As for your connection, I haven't run cognition in a while so I don't know about that.
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I don't think it is a part of Cog., but is part of Perception. I personally like Phoenix and it has HSPA enabled.
Gr8Danes said:
I don't think it is a part of Cog., but is part of Perception. I personally like Phoenix and it has HSPA enabled.
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Pheonix wass my first rom. Very very stable rom, I liked it but couldn't get over the unreliable battery. I'm on Ultimate JPY v5.6 right now (speedmod, tweaks, lagfix) and I'm getting about 18 hours with heavy usage.
Ok so if I want the H signal I need to change roms correct, not modems right? Was thinking of flashing perception anyway and using speed mod and jk4 modem. That should get me H?
Also, (for some crazy reason) it's possible when making the ROM to turn off the H and have the 3G only.
Just FYI.
rob1216 said:
Ok so if I want the H signal I need to change roms correct, not modems right? Was thinking of flashing perception anyway and using speed mod and jk4 modem. That should get me H?
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The HSDPA/HSUPA is not actually part of the ROM.
It's the Kernel/Modem that your using. It's only available on the i9000 based setups.
So if the ROM your using is i9000 based it will be enabled by default
Ya that's what I figured but when cog starts up it says i9000, but anyway I'll try perception see if it activates H.Thanks
I just flashed Perception 10.3 a few days ago and i get HSDPA.
3g/h depends on the modem, not the rom. most of the modems already have the h enabled.
mengbo said:
3g/h depends on the modem, not the rom. most of the modems already have the h enabled.
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But captivate based roms wont ever display H.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Also, (for some crazy reason) it's possible when making the ROM to turn off the H and have the 3G only.
Just FYI.
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Battery consumption drops significantly if you lock the phone to UMTS 3G.
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Just like everyone is saying, HSUPA is enabled once you install an I9000 modem.
On stock captivate ROMS (like Cognition), an "H" symbol will not appear, but you still have an HSUPA enabled if an I9000 modem is installed. Only I9000 based ROMs will show an "H".
The best way to check if you have HSUPA enabled on a stock captivate ROM is getting an internet speed test app and checking your upload speed. At my fastest, I get about 500kbps upload speeds with only 3G enabled.
I have an I9000 modem installed, and HSUPA is enabled, as you can tell from my internet speed test results, but my phone still shows "3G" because I use a ROM based on Rogers stock Froyo release.
Wow, good to know. All this time I thought the "H" was sub 3G speeds..
You'll have to excuse me, I'd been using an unlocked G1 on AT&T's network for almost two years; never had 3G until now.

[Q] 3G data speed

I have the HTC Hero CDMA running AOSP 2.2.1 and i have the DecaFuct kernel flashed. It is overclocked to 806mhz with setcup.
The problem i believe i have is the speed on my 3G network. I have checked the speed in various locations, some with good coverage and some with bad coverage and this is what im getting...
7:15pm down.24mps; up.30mps
7:25pm down.96mps; up.59mps
8:04pm down.34mps; up.31mps
8:28pm down.48mps; up.47mps
8:29pm down.51mps; up.47mps
im sure this is a problem because my roomate has the backflip and is getting speeds of down3-4mps; up1-2mps
is there a way to fix this?
First, where are you? Second, your friend's backflip is on ATT. I'm guessing you have a Sprint Hero. Those speeds don't look like 3G, they look more like 1X. I should know, I finally got 3G/EVDO last week and the difference is pretty amazing. I doubt it has anything to do with ROMs, be it AOSP, CM, Sense or whatever. Ditto on the overclock. That only affects the CPU speeds and has nothing to do with network speeds.
im in Irvine, i tried it inside my apartment, outside, and down the street it was all pretty slow. so is this normal?
Again what network is your roommates and the rom/kernal/CPU freq has nothing to do with network speed. What version is your radio(baseband), check in settings. It could be that sprint coverage isn't that great where u are.
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And also I just tested my speeds cause I was curious n mine weren't all to far from yours. Depends on server location and how many bars you have. Don't look at the numbers if you are satisfied with how your hero works that's all that matters.
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impalerfamily said:
Again what network is your roommates and the rom/kernal/CPU freq has nothing to do with network speed. What version is your radio(baseband), check in settings. It could be that sprint coverage isn't that great where u are.
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my roommate is on att.
my radio is 2.42.01.04.27
the coverage maps show i have 3g coverage all over and around where i live.
i just thought i should be getting around 2-3 at least, its not the numbers that bug me its just that it takes much too long to download apps and games
i installed the latest radio and im averaging about 1mps each time, its not what i expected but its sure better than .5 mps
Also try updating your prl and profile. It may help a little. What is your current prl?
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What decafuct kernel are you using that goes above 768?
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theSlack said:
What decafuct kernel are you using that goes above 768?
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It's from many months ago. It doesn't offer an improvement in performance, and since it's older, not really worth using anyway.
i am using 2.6.29.6 decafuct
what is the prl and profile?
My download speeds are around 300kbps, uploads are closer to 500kbps. This is supposedly on 3g. I'm running aosp2.3.3.
I read somewhere that I have to reset the data connection using ##3282#, but this isn't working. Do I need to go rollback to the stock build to do this? Should I try something else first?
Thanks!
Android Ver: 2.3.3
Baseband: 2.42.02.10.29
kernel: 2.6.29.6-aosp-CMod
Mod ver: aospCMod-HC-20110326
Build#:GRI40
PRL:60675
Make a nand of your current rom. Then flash a sense or stock/rom. Then updat your profile and prl. Then make a nand of that rom to use for more updates. Then restore your 1st nand and you should be good to go
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Modified Hero
There seems to be a problem with throughput with Sprint's network, at least that's what the tech told me. My 3G speeds are about averaging 70 kbps and have been for the past three weeks. A lot of people over on the Evo forums have been contacting Sprint about the problem. Check out the thread over there.
Edit: Here is the link,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=933900
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Thanks laie1472. I went back to the stock version and updated everything... it's running much better now (800K dl).
I guess it also depends on location. I'm on 60677 and my data is flying. At least it is at my house. For some reason I get slower speeds in different parts of town, particularly at work. Speeds there are in the <500Kb there whereas at home I topped 1900 yesterday in my garage.
cmoradi said:
Thanks laie1472. I went back to the stock version and updated everything... it's running much better now (800K dl).
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Cool man glad you got the speed back.
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I didn't really have the greatest 3g coverage either but flashed to the newest radio and it made a huge difference.
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OC'd to 768

Data speed on captivate based GB roam.

I know the data speed on captivate GB bootloader based rom will always be less than i9000 based roms. I recently switched from apex to pinnacle and I never get H just 3G which has horrible speed.
Can I fix by using i9000 modem? Are they compatible?
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No. I try it and data and text work but cant make any call
You need to combine modem with Kernel. To my knowledge no I9000 gb kernel works on i897 rom. Also the speed difference is just upload.
prbassplayer said:
You need to combine modem with Kernel. To my knowledge no I9000 gb kernel works on i897 rom. Also the speed difference is just upload.
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i noticed speed difference in basic internet surfing too. I dont H anywhere now which I used to have everywhere on i9000 roms...
Captivate roms, with the exception of the very latest leaks, don't show H, only 3G.
H= HSPA wich is only a upload speed increase. You can try different I897 modems see if you can increase your bandwith in your area. Personally I get about 3Mbs download and 300Kbs upload.
Edit: My observations are based on ATT network.
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Captivate roms, with the exception of the very latest leaks, don't show H, only 3G.
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So by latest leak you mean KJ3?
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I think it started with ki1, then the next couple had the H+, but the last one didn't. I think it is kj3.
H and 3G usually have about the same dl (HSDPA)speed. The difference is in the upload (HSUPA), which is capped at about 350-375kb/s. The i9000 modems don't have that upload cap built in. The H+ is only cosmetic at this point, until att starts increasing speeds through the towers.

Hspa+ ?

So I read that it was not possible ti get a captivate modem/rom to support 4g/hspa+
However I read several ppl on here get the h+ with their captivate?
I look thru the roms but none say hspa+...
Can someone help me out and tell me which rom I can get the h+ with?
3g ib my area is terrible I get 50kbps if I'm lucky, and h+ is available here...
Thanks so much. I really hope its possible, I love captivate and would hate to have to get a new phone...
piffdaddy420 said:
So I read that it was not possible ti get a captivate modem/rom to support 4g/hspa+
However I read several ppl on here get the h+ with their captivate?
I look thru the roms but none say hspa+...
Can someone help me out and tell me which rom I can get the h+ with?
3g ib my area is terrible I get 50kbps if I'm lucky, and h+ is available here...
Thanks so much. I really hope its possible, I love captivate and would hate to have to get a new phone...
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Unfortunately, our phones don't support H+. We can get HSDPA, and the i9000 modems can get HSUPA, but that's not true H+. However, if HSDPA/HSUPA is acceptable, try flashing an i9000 modem/kernel/rom setup and see if that works for you.
piffdaddy420 said:
So I read that it was not possible ti get a captivate modem/rom to support 4g/hspa+
However I read several ppl on here get the h+ with their captivate?
I look thru the roms but none say hspa+...
Can someone help me out and tell me which rom I can get the h+ with?
3g ib my area is terrible I get 50kbps if I'm lucky, and h+ is available here...
Thanks so much. I really hope its possible, I love captivate and would hate to have to get a new phone...
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if 3g in your area is that crappy, dont think that hspa is going to fix it. it all rides on the same bands/frequencies. hspa+ is just an increased 3G. in my experience with all my '4G' devices, excluding my LTE ones, obviously, its no different than rocking an i9000 rom/modem on my captivate.
piffdaddy420 said:
So I read that it was not possible ti get a captivate modem/rom to support 4g/hspa+
However I read several ppl on here get the h+ with their captivate?
I look thru the roms but none say hspa+...
Can someone help me out and tell me which rom I can get the h+ with?
3g ib my area is terrible I get 50kbps if I'm lucky, and h+ is available here...
Thanks so much. I really hope its possible, I love captivate and would hate to have to get a new phone...
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To clarify this one thing for ya...
Those reporting the "H+" on their Captivate were more than likely running one of the previously leaked i897 firmwares, that had that built into the leak itself. So nothing official and probably someone thought it would be cool, funny, etc. etc.
The latest i897 leaks are back to just showing the "3G".
Anyway, just an fyi.

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