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Hi all,
I think I know the answer to this already, but just throwing it out there just in case!
I have an XDA2i with a blocked IMEI (as the insurance have supplied me a new one and this is sitting here with a cracked screen) - Is there anyway to use a SIM card in it?
I'm in the UK - So I'm presuming only way is to use the unit in another country, right?
If there's nothing I can do to use it here, then I'll just sell it abroad...
Any ideas?
Cheers! Dennis West London UK!
Isn't the IMEI blocked globally?
change the screen and sell it to a mobile shop...they know how to deal with it...the screen replacement cost £100 if u do it yourself 160 if u send it away
imei blocks are not worldwide yet!
As far as I understand, IMEI blocks _could_ be implemented worldwide, but they aren't yet. However, a phone CAN be globally blocked.
Reprogramming a phone's IMEI number is a criminal offence in most countries, and if someone says that they can do it, especially if they work for a phone shop or resell phones, be VERY wary of them... I'd imagine at least some part of the profit from the sale might go towards other criminal activity of some kind, and you don't want to be the one perpetuating the cycle, do you?
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Hey Guys,
Time to vent some frustration here.
About a month ago I bought a Bell GT-I9000M off kijiji (after falling in love with it on a recent trip to Japan). I went through the flashing routines and settled on the doc roms. Somehow after some use/flashing I ended up killing it with what seems to be a corrupted internal sd card. I have no idea how that happened but it did. I can access download mode and flash with odin but I cant get the phone to boot. The phone boots past the samsung logo to a black screen and if I touch any of the buttons on the front they stay lit.
So last weekend I got the bright idea to buy another used phone, again from kijiji. This one was brand new, never used and seemed like a good option. I flashed the BUJP8_v9_Bell_Idan73_Special ROM and everything was fine up until yesterday. For some reason I could no longer send text messages. I called Rogers (my provider, phone was unlocked and working fine) for help and he had me do a few things including a battery pull and some sort of reset text message.
After the following reboot (after getting off the phone) my phone would no longer boot. I've since had the EXACT same issue as with the previous phone - phone sits at a black screen after the samsung logo and the buttons stay lit if I press one of them.
I can still flash this phone with odin and I can access the download/recovery screen but I cant do anything else.
Did I get 2 duds or did I do something to mess this phone up in someway? Is there anything I can do or do I have to send these things back to samsung some how?
Even now, I just reflashed with odin 1.7 to the I9000UGJK3 pda file and on the reboot after flash I get the 3e recovery screen with this error:
E:Can't mount /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 (I/O error) E:copy_dbdata_media:Can't mount SDCARD: your storage not prepared yet...
When I click format internal sd card it just repeats the same error...
What is going on with these phones?
Someone could confirm this, but I think bell could still services thoses with the serial number or IMEI (or such) You might want to contact them.
You will need Proof of Purchase to get repairs done via Bell / Dealer Stores.
Downgrade back to the BELL 2.1, boot into recovery and wipe all / internal SD. If that works, then upgrade back to 2.2. I had that problem when I upgraded to a corrupt 2.2 I downloaded online.
Gabriel
It makes absolutely no sense that you need proof of purchase for these phones.
I know you do, but its absolutely ridiculous. I could understand if the phone has been made and sold as an I9000M for more than a year, but they weren't and they haven't. Each have been manufactured this year. Either July or August, and sold.
So someone without a receipt should be given 1 year warranty based on the manufacturers date on the phone, no exceptions. Or if bell really wants to be a stickler about it, they can just say that phones without a receipt will only be warrantied up until July or August 2011, the one year anniversary of these phones being sold.
I know other corporations, including my BBQ manufacturer, did not need proof of purchase for a warranty claim. They simply asked me for my serial number, and could only give me warranty based on the manufacturers date. I purchased my BBQ much after the manufacturers date, but due to no proof of that, they still provided me the warranty because my actual BBQ didn't even exist prior to the Serial number. So they couldn't dispute it was still under warranty.
I'm sure if you yelled loud enough, they'll warranty it. They will have no leg to stand on. The phone is not stolen, wasn't reported stolen, has a valid IMEI and all of that.
How do they know its not stolen. They don't.
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ickyboo said:
How do they know its not stolen. They don't.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using Tapatalk
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Absolutely they do. They have a list of blacklisted IMEI/ESN's. If that IMEI is on the list, not only will they not activate it, they will not warranty it, and they will not even return the phone back to you.
What they do exactly is tell you to wait while they go to the 'back' to complete the transaction, then call the police as you wait.
Activating a stolen phone is like trying to use a fraudulant/stolen credit card. Same thing. And same process.
If you're brave enough to explain your story to the police. Then go ahead and wait.
If the phone is an I9000M, then the phone was not brought from overseas. Its specific to Canada. The IMEI number will reflect that regardless of what ROM you may have installed on it.
has anyone tried it?
I think it was done by some users who bought the device to work on another network, I'd advise to try it first, get into a bell store and be real polite/nice with the clerk, he/she will most likely help you!
I'm going to bell tonight either way. I'm fed up. One phone maybe, but two phones dieing doesn't make any sense to me at all.
This is getting repaired and then going up for sale. I'm not going to take my chances on a third/repaired phone.
I don't know why everyone blames Bell for warranty work. Samsung should be the one people go to if their phone needs repair and was NOT purchased from Bell.
I'm assuming the OP purchased his phones from kijiji because he's using the phone for another provider but Bell. So tell me why Bell should service the phone or give them a replacement?
You know if you don't have a receipt and genuinely bought the phone from Bell, they will honor it because you have a contract with Bell and that's the proof you need. They have all the info regarding your phone when you bought it.
I don't work for Bell. But seriously, you people make no sense.
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Absolutely they do. They have a list of blacklisted IMEI/ESN's. If that IMEI is on the list, not only will they not activate it, they will not warranty it, and they will not even return the phone back to you.
What they do exactly is tell you to wait while they go to the 'back' to complete the transaction, then call the police as you wait.
Activating a stolen phone is like trying to use a fraudulant/stolen credit card. Same thing. And same process.
If you're brave enough to explain your story to the police. Then go ahead and wait.
If the phone is an I9000M, then the phone was not brought from overseas. Its specific to Canada. The IMEI number will reflect that regardless of what ROM you may have installed on it.
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I don't know why everyone blames Bell for warranty work. Samsung should be the one people go to if their phone needs repair and was NOT purchased from Bell.
I'm assuming the OP purchased his phones from kijiji because he's using the phone for another provider but Bell. So tell me why Bell should service the phone or give them a replacement?
You know if you don't have a receipt and genuinely bought the phone from Bell, they will honor it because you have a contract with Bell and that's the proof you need. They have all the info regarding your phone when you bought it.
I don't work for Bell. But seriously, you people make no sense.
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We "People" make no sense? Well let me boil it down for you...
Bell is not on the hook for any warranty repair. Samsung is. However Bell, at least in Ontario is the ONLY authorized cell provider licensed by Samsung to purchase the phone at or for. So if you buy it at Best Buy, Future Shop, or any other cellular place without contract, they are NOT authorized to activate that non-contract phone with any other cell provider.
So with that being said. Those phones that Best Buy and Future Shop and those other companies get are obtained through the same source Bell gets their stock from. Why? Because that is the person that tells bell the phone is theirs.
So no matter where they get the phone from, there is one person, or a group of people at Samsung telling Bell another phone has been sold.
So why is Bell a good place to go to? Try phoning Samsung to get warranty work done without the assistance of Bell or the place you bought it at. They won't do it. Why? Because its a branded phone and they don't have the same system Bell does when it comes to tracking stolen goods.
Think about it. Why would anyone have to go to Bell at all? Why wouldn't Samsung just do all the warranty work themselves absolving Bell of any post-relations with their clients? Simple. Because you bring it in, they check the serial numbers against a flagged database only they, and their point-of-sale partners have. The same list that is shared with other providers to track stolen equipment.
So Samsung won't do the repair straight out, unless you buy the phone directly from them. And to that, I don't even think they sell the phone in Canada without the assistance of a provider. They do however in other countries from what I understand.
So making this extremely long story short. Samsung is on the hook for the cost of repair. Not bell. So tell me why bell can't be the intermediary for a person that didn't buy it there? It costs them nothing and improves relations with the general public.
Make sense now? Clear as mud? Didn't think so.
EDIT: And no one said anything about Bell giving them a replacement. They only do that as a courtesy to THEIR customers if need be or if Samsung says there's no other choice.. Again, samsung is on the hook for the replacement of any I9000M phone. Whether Bells or Not. If Bell gives their customer a replacement and Samsung said no, that is the only way Bell would have to pocket anything.
But for this purpose, I only spoke of warranty repair, not replacement. But again, thats up to Samsungs discretion based on what FutureTel, the only repair centre for them, tells them.
LAST EDIT: It is in the best interest of any person out there looking for warranty work to ensure you go to a Bell CORPORATE store and not a franchised store. I confirmed yesterday (EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BELL) that franchised stores can make up their own rules and do not have to accept the repair (Like they didn't mine) because I didn't buy it from that franchise. The owner of that store says the Corporate stores will take anything regardless of where it was purchased.
Oh and I had my contract, and my receipt for the purchase with me too.. still wouldn't take it. HMMMM.
You took a chance purchasing your phone off Kijjii, you knew that chance since you already had one dead SG. All the money spent on Kijjii on 2 phones and you could of most likly bought the phone new and would of had a receipt and a waranty ;p.
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It is in the best interest of any person out there looking for warranty work to ensure you go to a Bell CORPORATE store and not a franchised store. I confirmed yesterday (EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A CONTRACT WITH BELL) that franchised stores can make up their own rules and do not have to accept the repair (Like they didn't mine) because I didn't buy it from that franchise. The owner of that store says the Corporate stores will take anything regardless of where it was purchased.
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Hit a nerve did I? LOL
That's great news for everyone that bought used phones. Hopefully it's not one of those made up rules from that Franchise owner you speak of.
I never said you can return your phone to any Franchise store. That's common knowledge (to me and my friends at least) that you have to return to the store you bought it from or a corporate store. That's nothing new.
You're not going to find a lot of businesses that will honor warranty on a product that was not purchased from them. I'm talking products bought from kijiji or craigslist etc (like the OP)... NOT Best Buy or Future Shop. I'd be surprised to see if Bell Corp would accept a phone bought from kijiji especially if they are not Bell customers.
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Hit a nerve did I? LOL
That's great news for everyone that bought used phones. Hopefully it's not one of those made up rules from that Franchise owner you speak of.
I never said you can return your phone to any Franchise store. That's common knowledge (to me and my friends at least) that you have to return to the store you bought it from or a corporate store. That's nothing new.
You're not going to find a lot of businesses that will honor warranty on a product that was not purchased from them. I'm talking products bought from kijiji or craigslist etc (like the OP)... NOT Best Buy or Future Shop. I'd be surprised to see if Bell Corp would accept a phone bought from kijiji especially if they are not Bell customers.
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Condescending comments always hit a nerve. Thats nothing new, so you can LOL all you want. There are better ways to try and get your point across than speaking down to us "people".
At any rate...
My whole point is, it shouldn't matter where you bought it from, its impossible for any of these phones to be beyond the 1 year manufactured date. And since all I9000M's come with Bell's bloated firmware, they should warranty them regardless of where you bought them from, as it doesn't cost them a penny. Any company that I have dealt with in the past where a receipt was missing honoured the warranty based on a manufacturers date.
This is not a Samsung Galaxy S we are speaking of here. Its a BELL Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant. And no I9000M out there has a different distinction. Or at least none with Bell listed IMEI's.
Buying this from Kijiji is still a risk though.. Samsung could always deny your warranty claim depending on what caused the error in the first place. But the denial of warranty claim should happen at the repair service level, not at a Bell store.
greeced said:
Condescending comments always hit a nerve. Thats nothing new, so you can LOL all you want. There are better ways to try and get your point across than speaking down to us "people".
At any rate...
My whole point is, it shouldn't matter where you bought it from, its impossible for any of these phones to be beyond the 1 year manufactured date. And since all I9000M's come with Bell's bloated firmware, they should warranty them regardless of where you bought them from, as it doesn't cost them a penny. Any company that I have dealt with in the past where a receipt was missing honoured the warranty based on a manufacturers date.
This is not a Samsung Galaxy S we are speaking of here. Its a BELL Samsung Galaxy S Vibrant. And no I9000M out there has a different distinction. Or at least none with Bell listed IMEI's.
Buying this from Kijiji is still a risk though.. Samsung could always deny your warranty claim depending on what caused the error in the first place. But the denial of warranty claim should happen at the repair service level, not at a Bell store.
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Did you flash with Odin?
My friend is going to sell me his Nexus 6 that has a bad ESN on Sprint. Can I activate it on AT&T? I am pretty familiar with Sprint being able to block activation, but can they block activation on another carrier?
Thanks
kevg77 said:
My friend is going to sell me his Nexus 6 that has a bad ESN on Sprint. Can I activate it on AT&T? I am pretty familiar with Sprint being able to block activation, but can they block activation on another carrier?
Thanks
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if a phone is blacklisted, now-a-days they register it on a national and international blacklist. so, if its blacklisted, chances are that it wont work on any US carrier.
Don't use stolen phones.
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Don't use stolen phones.
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It may not be stolen...may well just be the prior owner didn't pay his bills.
Besides odds are if it really was stolen...the actual owner would have used Android Device Manager to lock the device by remote.
Skripka said:
It may not be stolen...may well just be the prior owner didn't pay his bills.
Besides odds are if it really was stolen...the actual owner would have used Android Device Manager to lock the device by remote.
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If someone didn't pay their bills to cover the cost of the phone, phone was not paid for = stolen from sprint. Sprint won't use android device manager.
Either way, phone isn't theirs to sell
rootSU said:
If someone didn't pay their bills to cover the cost of the phone, phone was not paid for = stolen from sprint. Sprint won't use android device manager.
Either way, phone isn't theirs to sell
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Sprint (and many US telecoms) quite honestly deserve people stealing, one for another, from them after they're stuffing customer's bills with fraudulent charges:
http://www.techspot.com/news/59183-sprint-faces-105-million-fine-over-fraudulent-charges.html
Not a tear should ever be shed over customers "stealing" leased handsets that they failed to pay the bill on. There's a reason telecoms are the most hated companies in the USA.
Skripka said:
Sprint (and many US telecoms) quite honestly deserve people stealing, one for another, from them after they're stuffing customer's bills with fraudulent charges:
http://www.techspot.com/news/59183-sprint-faces-105-million-fine-over-fraudulent-charges.html
Not a tear should ever be shed over customers "stealing" leased handsets that they failed to pay the bill on.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. I think "don't use stolen phones" is a good moral code to stand by and since you'll never get the background of why something is blacklisted, it would make sense not to use them.
I don't think you advocating stealing from carriers is the sort of message this forum would support.
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2 wrongs don't make a right. I think "don't use stolen phones" is a good moral code to stand by and since you'll never get the background of why something is blacklisted, it would make sense not to use them.
I don't think you advocating stealing from carriers is the sort of message this forum would support.
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Call it "stealing" if you want.
The carriers don't. With the cost of the Nexus 6 (and many other smartphones), the carriers could easily sue customers who don't pay up and have them put in jail for grand theft. They never do. They just brick the phones on their network.
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Call it "stealing" if you want.
The carriers don't. With the cost of the Nexus 6 (and many other smartphones), the carriers could easily sue customers who don't pay up and have them put in jail for grand theft. They never do. They just brick the phones on their network.
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Yes, I call taking something without paying for it stealing. sueing someone costs more than the loss of a phone.
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Yes, I call taking something without paying for it stealing. sueing someone costs more than the loss of a phone.
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Not if you are a corporate entity in the USA it isn't. Further as exampled by the recording industry lawsuits against alleged file sharers.....what you do if you have a legal team with brains is you file civil lawsuits in bulk and legally blackmail people with the justice system for more than the actual monetary damages you've suffered. Further with that path you don't even have to prove wrong doing or damages....AND you only pay one filing fee for a few hundred John Doe
You're too used to the sensical way things apparently proceed in the UK judicial system to know how f#cked up things are in the USA WRT legal proceedings involving multi-billion USD corporate entities. And ISPs and telecoms are the scum of the Earth in the USA, even among corporations like Halliburton and Monsanto.
All in all I have to agree with @rootSU, which is why I'm gonna close this thread now. We do not know what exactly happened, and without knowing that the chances are pretty good that something illegal happened, which then does not belong on XDA.
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I've tried unlocking all but after too many hours of reading,searches,downloads,installs than virus removals and rooting and money. Used my credit card 3 times for sim unlock at online companies. All three screwed me but got money back from one. I think cause they are Canadian phones.
They gave me these reasons and a few more. Than kept my money.
The phone is blacklisted by the provider or reported lost or stolen
It is now illegal within the USA to unlock Phones purchased after January 26th 2013, if your phone was purchased after this date it cannot be unlocked.Although this model is generally un-lockable, there are instances where codes cannot be generated.
The IMEI number submitted was incorrect.
I check on these and none pertain to these phones n the imei # was correct.
In Canada its Not illegal here to unlock if you own the phone out-rite.
I'm looking for an honest place online that sells the imei or just the sim unlock codes for a good price. The average price from the networks like rogers
here is $50 and that's half of the phones worth. I'm retired can't afford that.
Right now I'm trying to unlock my Samsung galaxy S3 mini.
Anyone know a $5 to $10 site?
I own all four cells.
Sony Erricson xperia X10a Rogers Canada
Huawei Ascend Y300-0151 Rooted Bell .
Samsung Galaxy Ace 2e SGH-T599V Wind
samsung galaxy S3 mini, Canadian Model SM-G730W8 Rogers
Android 4.4.2
SW-VER G730W8VLUAMK1
smg730rfmc
joeroni said:
I've tried unlocking all but after too many hours of reading,searches,downloads,installs than virus removals and rooting and money. Used my credit card 3 times for sim unlock at online companies. All three screwed me but got money back from one. I think cause they are Canadian phones.
They gave me these reasons and a few more. Than kept my money.
The phone is blacklisted by the provider or reported lost or stolen
It is now illegal within the USA to unlock Phones purchased after January 26th 2013, if your phone was purchased after this date it cannot be unlocked.Although this model is generally un-lockable, there are instances where codes cannot be generated.
The IMEI number submitted was incorrect.
I check on these and none pertain to these phones n the imei # was correct.
In Canada its Not illegal here to unlock if you own the phone out-rite.
I'm looking for an honest place online that sells the imei or just the sim unlock codes for a good price. The average price from the networks like rogers
here is $50 and that's half of the phones worth. I'm retired can't afford that.
Right now I'm trying to unlock my Samsung galaxy S3 mini.
Anyone know a $5 to $10 site?
I own all four cells.
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Hey Joeroni I understand why you don't want to pay $50 to unlock a $100 phone.
But we can't really help with any recommendations cause we might offend someone
here that sells codes or software.Even though you have been ripped off from
some online companies.There are many ways here to unlock your phone but we
understand that one click root n unlock is much harder than stated and many
have bricked their phones.Which you can't afford to do.Like when you one click
root n unlock your Canadian Huawei Ascend Y300-0151.Its rooted n modem unlocked
but still locked to Bell.So learn roms now. Besides there are so many softwares
for Samsung that don't do your Canadian Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini, Canadian Model
SM-G730W8. Which you found out after hours n hours of reading n trying. We also
don't like answering people that are not geniuses already at this stuff. Not
even suggesting on the easiest software that you can buy credits that definitly
works on your Canadian phones.
So rather than learning to do your own phones here. Why don't you just quit
trying and pay the $40 and go to the corner shop n have them do it.Them shops
are popping up all over the place. Sound right?
lost or stolen phones
If less people bought "lost or stolen" phones there would be lots less lost or stolen phones.
themountig said:
If less people bought "lost or stolen" phones there would be lots less lost or stolen phones.
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And like I said they are not stolen or blacklisted. They are difficult because they are Canadian and software little diff. They are mine. You see while some sell software others codes n so fourth. Its all about money now. This site used to help people now it seems like all retail just want money now or THEY GET IGNORANT if your a newbie and not a genius at roms n stuff. Or I guess putting out money to the site. To have to pay half of what the phones are worth just to unlock them is wrong. Most learned how to do it from this site for years. Now I get they must be stolen.
If the phones in question are tied by contract to a particular service provider they are not owned by you. If you owned the phones legally and they are not tied by any contract unlocking would be simply achieved by calling the service provider to release the handset. If you wish to circumvent the law or break a phones link to a contract illegally why would you ask here. Such activities are expressly prohibited by this site and abusing members for not providing you with the tools to do this is disgraceful.
Listen here I keep telling you trouble maker that they are good. I know about all that stuff. Two I got after 2 year contract n went with other company . Then two bought out rite. I've already called the companies that were my providers from each phone. Asked how much to unlock them. That was my first move. Rogers checked and my cell was ok not blacklisted with them and wanted $50 plus 15% tax . I thought that was too much cause by law they have to provide an unlock to me. They said ya for a price $50.00 It's the same at the other major providers like bell fido rogers that i tried. All phones are ok to unlock but i must pay too much. So I try some online imei codes but get ripped off n now they have my credit card numbers. Damn. So I do searches n read n check out every software figuring ill do myself and pay for credits. but most software i checked does the samsung galaxy S3 mini but not the Canadian SM-G730W8 model. Same with my ol Sony Ericsson Xperia X10a. Different than regular x10. So I come here ask for few links or help. I get a senior member giving me BS. Your a trouble maker themountig and I don't need your help or accusations. Now once again people they have been checked and are all ok.
I checked the IMEI for your S3 and it has not been blacklisted, so I believe you when you say you own it outright. I also went ahead and removed your IMEI numbers from this thread because unscrupulous people will transfer them to devices that have been blacklisted so that those devices can work again. This activity is illegal in most places that support IMEI blacklisting and typically any discussion about how to change your IMEI is removed from xda.
In this case, I think why you really want is to SIM unlock your device. I am not sure what the laws are in Canada, and depending on where you live the carrier may or may not be required to provide you with an unlock code for free. Pretty much everywhere they have to do it if you own the phone. Typically SIM unlocking your device is not something that is supported very much on xda...rooting, unlocking the bootloader, yeah that gets done a lot around here.
You may want to bring up the issue with whomever you want as your new provider. They may be able to help you with Rogers or they may have another solution for you. Vodafone took care of an issue with my old provider when I switched to them. It is probably best to stay away from the online SIM unlocking services because it is really easy to get ripped off.
Good luck!
Thank you justmpm. I did not think about why people would want my old imei numbers. I did contact the company and yes they have to open it but at their price. That $50 is half of what I can buy the same phone unlocked online. My kids friends are techs at HP (bunch of crazy kids) and will unlock my phone this weekend if need be. They are also checking out these websites that ripped me off. One site is already down. unlock-freedom.cm They say they have a surprise for the other one this weekend. These companies must be making millions ripping people off. Well couple days ago I found another site advertising right here at my post. So now I'm waiting on code-unlock-shop that had a decent price and advertises doing Canadian cells. We will see. Its my last try.
Thank you justmpm for the info and removing my imei numbers. Most of all thanks for the respect.
I want to be clear. I am not accusing you of anything underhand it's just that an IMEI is meant to be attached to one cellphone. People who sell them are outside the law and therefore have no morals which would prevent them from ripping you off. The moderator removed your numbers from your post to protect you. Where do you think IMEI sellers get the numbers they sell as they can't be obtained legally or sold honestly. Sim unlocking is accepted practice IMEI selling is not. Therefore your request to be pointed to an honest seller is not possible. I should have simply pointed out to you that you were asking for the wrong thing, therefore I apologise for giving the wrong impression. Pleased you have so many young experts to guide and assist you and wish you well.
Its legal here in Canada to unlock your phone if you own it. But its expensive to have someone do it for you. SO Ive tried here and rooted both Huawei Ascend and the Samsung Galaxy Ace 2e but most software don't do the Canadian models. So thats when I tried the easy number unlock. Getting ripped off though. Didnt know that was illegal cause they advertise everywhere. Even in my evening newspaper. Im finding this out the hard way. I seen another site that does Canadian phones. Right here at this post. htp://www.code-unlock-shop.cm . Advertising right here but Ripping people off? Been 4 or 5 days now and still haven't heard from them. Another $15. Another scam that has my visa numbers. Damn it. I'd be ahead of the game if I stayed off this site and buy a new unlocked cell phone and hell with playing with cell phones. Well all my kids tech buddies are dropping in this weekend to check on these sites that ripped me off. Ill let them little crazies deal with them. Problem solved I'm buying a new phone that I can't afford.
Finally got numbers from htp://www.code-unlock-shop.cm. Paypal screwup. Happy happy happy Finally. Lot of trouble for my own phone. Damn
I have bought a note 4 from Dubai it is N9100C and it is internationaly unlocked. When I tried using it with tmobile in USA they offered me an insurance plan. As you all know insurance company will block the phone if it was reported stolen. But my question is what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version.
Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
If it's reported lost and or stolen. It's a no go for North America.
Even if I used prepaid ?
mistamikel said:
If it's reported lost and or stolen. It's a no go for North America.
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If you read some postings people report that once blacklisted in US it doesnt work with some European providers
Seriously, is your phone stolen or not.
If the phone is unlocked then it technically cant be blacklisted unless it had a previous owner who reported it stolen.
AT&T and T-Mobile share IMEI numbers so if the phone was reported stolen it wont work. And T-mobile doesn't make you buy insurance for your phone, that is a lie.
Your question is suspect and vague.
bvzxa3 said:
Seriously, is your phone stolen or not.
If the phone is unlocked then it technically cant be blacklisted unless it had a previous owner who reported it stolen.
AT&T and T-Mobile share IMEI numbers so if the phone was reported stolen it wont work. And T-mobile doesn't make you buy insurance for your phone, that is a lie.
Your question is suspect and vague.
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How would he know if he purchased the device from someone. He wouldn't... AND he didn't say tmobile made him buy insurance he said they OFFERED it. And they offer the jump/insurance plan on any device they carry. It's because they get kickbacks from the company (https://myphpinfo.com/) that provides the insurance.
His question wasn't suspect. It was direct and specific.
what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?"]what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
The answer is Nothing will happen to your phone. The device will either be Blacklisted and not work (even on prepaid), Work for a few months and then be blacklisted (See below), or it will work and you will have never have issues.
If the device was reported stolen by any of the major carriers it will definitely not make calls, text messages, or LTE from any of the NA carriers Even prepaid, most sub carriers that use sim cards like straight talk, simple mobile, h20, Red Pocket, family mobile etc piggy back on either Tmobile or AT&T towers, you won’t be able to use any of these.
Also a stolen device isn't the only device that will be blacklisted on NA carrier networks. Some other reasons include.. A past due balance on a phone not fully paid off or if the early termination fees weren't paid on the account. So you take a risk if you purchase a device from a disreputable source. For instance, if I decided I wanted to sell my phone for crack, I could , and the device would work for a month or two or three. That is, until tmobile decides to block it. "Okay this guy ins't paying us, Black list the device"
Not every phone bought off of the black market is stolen. But a phone bought off the blackmarket runs the risk of being blocked later down the road.
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How would he know if he purchased the device from someone. He wouldn't... AND he didn't say tmobile made him buy insurance he said they OFFERED it. And they offer the jump/insurance plan on any device they carry. It's because they get kickbacks from the company (https://myphpinfo.com/) that provides the insurance.
His question wasn't suspect. It was direct and specific.
what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?"]what will happen to my phone if it was reported as stolen? I have already paid it full and it is an international unlocked version. Would I be able to use it in a different carrier or just internationaly ?
The answer is Nothing will happen to your phone. The device will either be Blacklisted and not work (even on prepaid), Work for a few months and then be blacklisted (See below), or it will work and you will have never have issues.
If the device was reported stolen by any of the major carriers it will definitely not make calls, text messages, or LTE from any of the NA carriers Even prepaid, most sub carriers that use sim cards like straight talk, simple mobile, h20, Red Pocket, family mobile etc piggy back on either Tmobile or AT&T towers, you won’t be able to use any of these.
Also a stolen device isn't the only device that will be blacklisted on NA carrier networks. Some other reasons include.. A past due balance on a phone not fully paid off or if the early termination fees weren't paid on the account. So you take a risk if you purchase a device from a disreputable source. For instance, if I decided I wanted to sell my phone for crack, I could , and the device would work for a month or two or three. That is, until tmobile decides to block it. "Okay this guy ins't paying us, Black list the device"
Not every phone bought off of the black market is stolen. But a phone bought off the blackmarket runs the risk of being blocked later down the road.
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You're two weeks late.
His question was vague, and I took it for exactly for what it was.
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You're two weeks late.
His question was vague, and I took it for exactly for what it was.
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Better late than never. At least now there is some actual information that isn't accusatory in nature. Glad to help out the community.
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Better late than never. At least now there is some actual information that isn't accusatory in nature. Glad to help out the community.
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The question was vague. The answer was based on the question. And believe me I know a lot about blacklisted phones, I own a "box" or two.
get a life
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The question was vague. The answer was based on the question. And believe me I know a lot about blacklisted phones, I own a "box" or two.
get a life
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I'll just leave this here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
1. Flaming, I would not call it that.
2. My answer was based on the question.
3. If "get a life" is flaming I could care less.
4. You tried to answer a question by assuming and the OP himself left the thread weeks ago.
5. Y not build up your "thanks" meter with real helpful answers. Direct it at the OP not me, and just maybe you wouldn't be trying to flame and hide.
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I'll just leave this here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?a=81
2.3 Flaming / Lack of respect: XDA is about sharing and this does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) or rudeness. Flaming or posting with a lack of respect is unacceptable. Treat new members in the manner in which you would like to have been treated when you were a new member. When dealing with any member, provide them with guidance, advice and instructions when you can, showing them respect and courtesy. Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner.
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sorry, but this user was very careful not to state why his phone might be considered stolen. it really sounds like this user knows it was stolen and is surprised that tmobile has made any offering at all. not to mention, the user has also gone silent since the start of the conversation. i know human nature enough to read between the lines.
You don't have to apologize, you did nothing wrong. I have considered your answer and in return I would like you to consider mine.
I don't think OP was tactful in his original request. His question was simply "If the phone is reported stolen, what would happen do the device or could he use it with a prepaid.... We can't infer from his inquiry that the device he was using is stolen. But only that OP was curious about what happens when a device is reported stolen. You're also right that he has gone silent. But wouldn't you if you asked a question out of curiosity and started to be accused of having a stolen device and not helpful post.
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1. Flaming, I would not call it that.
2. My answer was based on the question.
3. If "get a life" is flaming I could care less.
4. You tried to answer a question by assuming and the OP himself left the thread weeks ago.
5. Y not build up your "thanks" meter with real helpful answers. Direct it at the OP not me, and just maybe you wouldn't be trying to flame and hide.
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1. Flaming is the name of the rule. I probably wouldn't call your answer that either.
2. You're answer was incompetent and incomplete.
3. See #2
4. I left the answer for anyone else who also may be searching for the answer.. why? See #2.
5. I couldn't care less about the thanks. Just making sure there is accurate information for the community.
Cheers!
Where was my answer incompetent. Man please. If he had a truly unlocked device the only way it would have been blocked if it was reported stolen. He was worried about insurance which has nothing to do with the IMEI...which I stated. So you tried to sound correct but it's up to the OP to choose not you.
People like you dont know your stuff will do anything to boost post count with a lackluster contribution riding of the back of others.
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What you are discussing OP is fraud and it will not be tolerated on this site!
Please report threads and do not engage members in this manner
This is the task of the moderators
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