Change the IMEI legal or not - Off-topic

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I really really don't understand what you're trying to say in the post...

kid go back to school and learn how to spell...
its illegal to change the IMEI or "radio signature" of the phone, its the identity the phone has on a list the phone company has. Due to the fact that not everyone in the world is happy and nice, phones get stolen and companys blacklist phones (IMEI numbers), changing your IMEI number and circumventing this is a punishable by law. Theres also the fact that there is no point to change an IMEI number unless for malicious intent.
silly question, mediocre answer close thread

First of all you're post makes no sense what so ever, maybe you should of read what you was posting, second of all it is illegal to change the VIN number on you're car full stop, yes you can scratch it off and scribe you're own on their but that doesn't mean you have change it does it, !!
You're Knife story is just stupid and there is no point to it.
IMEI numbers will not be change for legal reason's would you be happy if someone claimed fraud on there phone got it replaced changed there IMEI number to the same as yours I think not,
Not only have you wasted a thread you have made you're self look like a 10 year old that cant spell or string a sentence together (I had to read it twice to try and make out what you was saying) maybe next time think about what you are going to post, yes I no flaming is against the rules here but meh you deserve it in this instance.
What a waste of time people come on here for help and to help people and learn new things not sit and read pointless threads.
Peace out

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Your actually keeping this topic?

PurpleSmurfLlama said:
Your actually keeping this topic?
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Agreed! The kid should do a spell check atleast

i read the first few lines and came to the conclusion the OP doesn't have a clue what is what in the world of the English Language... There is no legitimate excuse for changing your IMEI number...

Mr. randyrubb, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard.
At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

ist true, my skill in reading is now -3 points. Fail.

only American phone companies do that for her own stone age systems. no one else in the world register a phone to the provider . least not in the Free world (China, north Korea, Iran, and the USA maybe do so)

The minute your phone is on with a sim card in it the carrier to whom the sim card belongs to knows what phone you have. Yes, even in europe.

he may be foreign guys stop being assholes.
Yes its illigal but there are tools that do it I had to do it to 2 of my phones for reasons I will not explain and I do have tools to do it.
Its legal to do it for educational purposes but do not use the device if you think you might get cought.

Yes... foreign on an AT&T network...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276851

Danni3 said:
[...]its illegal to change the IMEI[...]
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According to what law? All that gets quote here is a bill that didn't pass.

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IMEI Spoofing

Well any of you gurus of the cell phone know how to go about this?''
THANKS
You're unlikely to get any help on this, since the number one reason to change an IMEI is to get around a network block on a stolen phone. Most of the people here paid a lot of good money for their phones, and don't want to give any assistance to thieves (whether you are one or not makes no difference, any information posted here could easily help or encourage others to steal and crack these phones).
Changing IMEI's is illegal in many countries anyway, so there's a good chance you'd be committing a crime just by doing it, even if the phone is yours.
IMEI changing is going to get you sore!
EDIT: Oh and search, this has been discussed to death on here before.
Dave
superchargedrs said:
Well any of you gurus of the cell phone know how to go about this?''
THANKS
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Oh, its really easy. Just take your phone to your local police station. They will provide you with the further instructions. HTH.
I vote this thread be closed!
kimtyson said:
I vote this thread be closed!
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+1,
and stop stalking me, My Subscriptions is full of post's last updated by you lol.
Dave
Dave- LOL! I guess you and I are the only ones with time on our hands. Sorry for stalking. Take care.
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Dave- LOL! I guess you and I are the only ones with time on our hands. Sorry for stalking. Take care.
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Im stuck doing a boring risk analysis (I'm a Software Developer, normally) at work. Every 5 minutes I get distracted and end up on here.
Dave
The good news is that we have successfully hijacked this potentially illegal thread.
ok first we need to debunk a few things. One if some crackhead stole a phone they wouldnt go through all this trouble to sell a phone when they could just sell it on the street or craigs list for that matter. On top of that this is my phone I dont need to steal a few hundrad dollar phone.
Two as far as it being a crime I know that my local law enforcemnt A probablr doesnt even know what a imei is nor do they care as they have enough real crimes and speeding tickets to write, this reminds me of cutting that tag off a matress.
Three I did do a search with allot of this bs on the black helicopters are going to get you crap, but the threads had little usefull data...people how is this diffrent from spoofing a mac or breaking the sim lock lol reach down grab your balls and wake up!
Now I doubt I would go through much trouble to bother with this (I havent even loaded a new rom), so could someone amuse me with this?
why do you want to do this?
i only ask in reason of morbid curiosity...
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ok first we need to debunk a few things. One if some crackhead stole a phone they wouldnt go through all this trouble to sell a phone when they could just sell it on the street or craigs list for that matter. On top of that this is my phone I dont need to steal a few hundrad dollar phone.
Two as far as it being a crime I know that my local law enforcemnt A probablr doesnt even know what a imei is nor do they care as they have enough real crimes and speeding tickets to write, this reminds me of cutting that tag off a matress.
Three I did do a search with allot of this bs on the black helicopters are going to get you crap, but the threads had little usefull data...people how is this diffrent from spoofing a mac or breaking the sim lock lol reach down grab your balls and wake up!
Now I doubt I would go through much trouble to bother with this (I havent even loaded a new rom), so could someone amuse me with this?
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I think the problem is that if xda devs provides information on how to change the imei they could be held accountable. Todays curent climate of terrorism bs that the security services make up to justify thier own existance means if you change ur imei they can slam you with some trumped up charge (or atleast in this country).
People who change thier imei have something to hide, or so they say. Sim unlocking isnt classed as that bad, and for mac spoofing I cant comment.
There was a thread somewhere discussing theory, but I havent seen it in a while. I cant post a link cos im on opera mini. There was some good info in the link i posted by vijay.
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Another though, think of it as changing your VIN number on your car, why would you ever want to do such a thing.
Also, I have re-read the vijay post now, and theres a link to a site where you can get more info. Please read V's advice, don't get us into trouble and be nice to each other .
Dave
PS sorry for going off topic.
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ok first we need to debunk a few things. One if some crackhead stole a phone they wouldnt go through all this trouble to sell a phone when they could just sell it on the street or craigs list for that matter. On top of that this is my phone I dont need to steal a few hundrad dollar phone.
Two as far as it being a crime I know that my local law enforcemnt A probablr doesnt even know what a imei is nor do they care as they have enough real crimes and speeding tickets to write, this reminds me of cutting that tag off a matress.
Three I did do a search with allot of this bs on the black helicopters are going to get you crap, but the threads had little usefull data...people how is this diffrent from spoofing a mac or breaking the sim lock lol reach down grab your balls and wake up!
Now I doubt I would go through much trouble to bother with this (I havent even loaded a new rom), so could someone amuse me with this?
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oh well that makes it all better after you point it out like that.
Maybe we should tell him.
superchargedrs said:
ok first we need to debunk a few things. One if some crackhead stole a phone they wouldnt go through all this trouble to sell a phone when they could just sell it on the street or craigs list for that matter. On top of that this is my phone I dont need to steal a few hundrad dollar phone.
Two as far as it being a crime I know that my local law enforcemnt A probablr doesnt even know what a imei is nor do they care as they have enough real crimes and speeding tickets to write, this reminds me of cutting that tag off a matress.
Three I did do a search with allot of this bs on the black helicopters are going to get you crap, but the threads had little usefull data...people how is this diffrent from spoofing a mac or breaking the sim lock lol reach down grab your balls and wake up!
Now I doubt I would go through much trouble to bother with this (I havent even loaded a new rom), so could someone amuse me with this?
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Go grab your own balls, FFS. You think we should "amuse" you with information that makes these phones more stealable, more re-sellable, more targetted by crims? Forget that. If the information is already out there somewhere, you get off your arse and go find it. If it isn't, good.
I love it when people hoard information, being the king of there own little hill. Well I will find what I am looking for later I guess (like I said I am in no rush), I just like knowing what your not sposed to know...ya know lol
As far as stealbility (sp?), you guys DO REALIZE that the people that steal phones and stuff of that ilk don't think that far ahead...right??? If they cant sell the phone the probably just through it out, though in the end of the day its is the same for the guy that gets his phone stolen.
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What????????????????? Was that english?
here's the truth:: no one here knows how. but instead of just saying so, they love gettin on
a high horse and spittin out morals..
especially when they dont know what they are talking about.
they will keep extra change from a cashier or an ipod found in a gym, but thats different isnt it?
just sheep here..
some do work hard to provide roms etc..
if you want really out of the ordinary things, you will find few here..
some are groundbreaking, like chainfire and others. if anyone knows where to find info, its them.
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I love it when people hoard information, being the king of there own little hill.
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yes i quite like it up here with my encylopedias thanks
no-one on here will know anything about IMEI spoofing or changing, and tbh no-one here with any self respect wants to know. they are (for the most part) happy with their phones/devices and have no need/want to fool around with something so blatantly illegal.
the only people that will want to know are scum-of-the-earth crims.
enough said, i join the vote to close/delete this thread.
amkaos said:
here's the truth:: no one here knows how. but instead of just saying so, they love gettin on
a high horse and spittin out morals..
especially when they dont know what they are talking about.
they will keep extra change from a cashier or an ipod found in a gym, but thats different isnt it?
just sheep here..
some do work hard to provide roms etc..
if you want really out of the ordinary things, you will find few here..
some are groundbreaking, like chainfire and others. if anyone knows where to find info, its them.
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Thank you so much for being the official spokesperson for the board.
I agree with quasi_mojo. Close this stupid thread.

Small Claim court advice!

I need help taking HTC to small claim court
please read below
Good day,
I have now a big issue and you are my last resort before taking the issue to small claim court.
I have sent my phone and paid for shipping even though it's in warranty.
The problem is that when I called to check the status on my phone ,
I spoke to Bryan Smith he informed me that I have to pay cause the software was unauthorized then I told him that I purchased it and it has copyrights and compatible with the phone. then He didn't know what to say so he moved me to Britney Dora she came in with a different story saying that the charging port is broken.
I asked for a manager or a supervisor she refused to let me talk to anyone higher than her and she claimed that the manager is busy and will not talk to me.
I hardly got her manager's name : Curtis Macmillin
This is totally unacceptable and before I sent it I have taken pictures for every part of the phone including the charging port .
I know it was not broken and the software installed is Tomotm navigation software which I have purchased and I have receipt for it.
They asking me now for money ($499) to repair my warranty phone which is having factory defect or for $39 to return it unrepaired..
Please advice.
IO have checked the small claim court guide and i read that I have to be in WA to take them to court .
Any advice?
hanoon said:
IO have checked the small claim court guide and i read that I have to be in WA to take them to court.
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Laws will vary from country to country and state to state but what part of Western Australia are you in (your profile isn't filled in)? What's wrong with talking to your local Citizens Advice Beaureu - they often have the ability to book you in for an hours free legal advice.
More background info would be welcome if you want advice.
What phone? Bought new or used? Ever flashed? What was the problem that made you send it in? etc...
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Laws will vary from country to country and state to state but what part of Western Australia are you in
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WA may mean Washington, USA (the state).
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WA may mean Washington, USA (the state).
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Didn't answer kilrah's questions in post 3 though did you? If you want to go to a small claims court, or ask for advice you are going to need to give more info than just your home state.
You're good at naming names but not giving info - please be careful here 'cos if you go to court and lose you could be hit by some personal defamation claims with what you've already written.
That doesn't make any sense to me did the phone have a custom rom on it?
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Didn't answer kilrah's questions in post 3 though did you? ...
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I think you're misquoting here, Ach2
the original poster, hanoon, has yet to reply any of the questions on this thread.
I'm sure he won't either.
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I think you're misquoting here, Ach2
the original poster, hanoon, has yet to reply any of the questions on this thread.
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Good point - if I'm going to spout off like a barrack room lawyer I should at least get my own facts right
Sorry tbrown5175, you were answering one of the questions which hanoon didn't bother with - but at least you put me straight, I thought WA was Wise A**e
And as usual, ChumleyEX summed up correctly with only 5 words
I do try.
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Sorry tbrown5175, you were answering one of the questions which hanoon didn't bother with - but at least you put me straight, I thought WA was Wise A**e
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No worries.

[Q] IMEI swapping. Is it possible?

I may be treading on thin ice here with regards to XDA's policies regarding talk of IMEI's, but this has nothing to do with spoofing or use of illegally obtained hardware, so I'm going to go ahead and ask anyway. To any XDA mods who don't find this topic to be kosher by you, my apologies in advance.
As many of you (on AT&T at least) may have recently found out, AT&T is coming down on us useres who have either de-branded our Tab's for the purpose of using our device as a phone or who have purchased an international Tab for the same reasons.
Apparently, they have been identifying our devices on their network by IMEI, and taken "appropriate action" against using the Tab as it was originally intended by Samsung, because THAT use disagree's with how AT&T intended it to be used.
So, my question is this: Is it possible to swap the IMEI with my Samsung Galaxy S (Captivate) and vice versa, inorder to fool AT&T's system scans into thinking my Tab is my Captivate or other "approved" device?
P.S. You should read my story here for the full details!
http://www.groubal.com/att-is-price-...res-must-read/
ANYTHING is possible. The main question is " has anyone figured out how to do it yet?"
IMHO....not that I know of.
The imei is in a file that is encrypted. So changing the number isn't possible. You can destroy it by deleting the file (don't do that without a back up copy or two).
I read somewhere about swapping the files between two tabs from different carriers, to confuse their attempts to track device usage.
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The imei is in a file that is encrypted. So changing the number isn't possible.
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Such closed mindedness. It is possible. We just need to figure out he algorithm.
Pretty sure its possible but its not easy. Corrupting it would be your best bet.
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Such closed mindedness. It is possible. We just need to figure out he algorithm.
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Ok, decrypting the file IS possible. If you have the key. "We just need to figure out he algorithm" is the impossible task. If you can't decrypt encrypted emails, then you won't crack the efs files either.
Changing your IMEI number is like changing the VIN number on your car, very do able but very illegal. I dont think it is okay to talk about this on here, try google.
Here is a very good read on the IMEI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Equipment_Identity
Good read, thank you. I stand corrected. Again, thank you.
Imei swapping is legal in the u.s.
I just wanted to make it clear to fellow U.S. users. It is not illegal to swap a imei from one phone to another phone that are both in your legal possession in the United States. The last few years Congress has proposed legislation to prohibit this activity, but it always dies in committee. It was recently proposed again on April 25th of this year and sent to committee where it will most likely be tabled there again. See this link for the newly proposed legislation:
govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1730/text
The Cloning laws in the United States only apply to cloning sim cards or esn numbers. Because cloning sim cards and/or esn's can lead to subscriber fraud. Which means you can actually steal someone's service without paying for it while the true owner of the sim or esn is stuck with paying for your usage. With IMEI numbers that is not possible due to the fact that is controlled by the sim card in gsm devices, not the IMEI. And as a matter of law and fact, you can clone your own sim or esn from a device in your legal possession because in that situation there is no intent to commit fraud which the cloning laws aim to prevent.
I challenge any doubters to find a law in the U.S. that prohibits swapping IMEI numbers. And, after you come back empty handed, ask yourself this question. Why does congress year after year try to propose laws to prohibit IMEI swapping if it was already illegal???
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Swapping IMEI numbers is pretty easy. And guess what I do it several times a day and the police are not knocking down my door. And, I am not hiding my services or performing them in some dark back alley. I have numerous ads on Craiglist advertising my service. And there is no doubt police pay very close attention to craigslist because of all the illegal activity going on there. So if I hear someone saying again IMEI swapping in the U.S. is illegal I will scream!!! Do some research and stop making assumptions or analogies that are apples and oranges..Like comparing VIN numbers of automobiles to IMEI numbers. How retarded is that.. LOL
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Pretty sure its possible but its not easy. Corrupting it would be your best bet.
Sent from my GT-P1000 using Tapatalk
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Just a hint...the IMEI in newer samsung android phones like the note 2 s3 and s4 (U.S. variants) is not stored in the EFS files.
boredndsm said:
I just wanted to make it clear to fellow U.S. users. It is not illegal to swap a imei from one phone to another phone that are both in your legal possession in the United States. The last few years Congress has proposed legislation to prohibit this activity, but it always dies in committee. It was recently proposed again on April 25th of this year and sent to committee where it will most likely be tabled there again. See this link for the newly proposed legislation:
govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr1730/text
The Cloning laws in the United States only apply to cloning sim cards or esn numbers. Because cloning sim cards and/or esn's can lead to subscriber fraud. Which means you can actually steal someone's service without paying for it while the true owner of the sim or esn is stuck with paying for your usage. With IMEI numbers that is not possible due to the fact that is controlled by the sim card in gsm devices, not the IMEI. And as a matter of law and fact, you can clone your own sim or esn from a device in your legal possession because in that situation there is no intent to commit fraud which the cloning laws aim to prevent.
I challenge any doubters to find a law in the U.S. that prohibits swapping IMEI numbers. And, after you come back empty handed, ask yourself this question. Why does congress year after year try to propose laws to prohibit IMEI swapping if it was already illegal???
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Swapping IMEI numbers is pretty easy. And guess what I do it several times a day and the police are not knocking down my door. And, I am not hiding my services or performing them in some dark back alley. I have numerous ads on Craiglist advertising my service. And there is no doubt police pay very close attention to craigslist because of all the illegal activity going on there. So if I hear someone saying again IMEI swapping in the U.S. is illegal I will scream!!! Do some research and stop making assumptions or analogies that are apples and oranges..Like comparing VIN numbers of automobiles to IMEI numbers. How retarded is that.. LOL
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Just a hint...the IMEI in newer samsung android phones like the note 2 s3 and s4 (U.S. variants) is not stored in the EFS files.
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You reg to xda just to say this?
This is 2011 thread:banghead::banghead::banghead:
And you bring this up now?
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Yes, because I am so tired of reading all the threads on the subject and you "Senior" members getting it wrong. Someone has to set it straight. With the retarded assumptions made by "Senior" members I thinks some other people have been banging their head on something. If your going to be a geek/nerd at least figure out how to do basic research on a subject matter before making assumptions. There is a big difference between a retard and a nerd but it seems it might be harder to distinguish between the 2 in this forum ...LOL
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Yes, because I am so tired of reading all the threads on the subject and you "Senior" members getting it wrong. Someone has to set it straight. With the retarded assumptions made by "Senior" members I thinks some other people have been banging their head on something. If your going to be a geek/nerd at least figure out how to do basic research on a subject matter before making assumptions. There is a big difference between a retard and a nerd but it seems it might be harder to distinguish between the 2 in this forum ...LOL
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Dude..just look at those both thread date..by the way..it's maybe legal in US..but at some country it's not..not all xda user came from US..and senior member doesn't define thier knowledge..they got the senior title by making 100 post..and did you read the rule?
My point is..you could just explain to them nicely..don't need to flame..just saying..
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If something (like changing IMEI) might get in trouble xda-developers then is not something we would like to see.
So thread closed.
Thank you.

DROID X Meid/Esn Repair

I hope no one gets mad, but this > < discussion should be here and made sticky for AT LEAST the droid x for further development and hacking. This should be only for educational purposes! All in all though, I feel that this topic would be more quickly busted or confirmed on this site. Please post ANY findings and/or results here. As you can see I have posted to this site the locations of ALL meid an pesn of the druid 2 global phone, but was unsuccessful at using these scripts to do anything to this phone. Thanks ppl and let's keep this thread going for the lifespan of the phone. All credit given whet credit is due, as you can see from the post. No stealing or hijacking intended. This is all I could find on Moto devices. Also have a Devour to test this on with a lil more skilled guidance.
Again? Really?
ESN changing is against the law in the country of which these forums are hosted. I'm going to assume this will be deleted before you even read my post.
There is no legal reason to 'repair' your MEID. Please move back to Howard Forums where they still seem to allow this type of discussion.
Just read forum rules.
I have just read the forum rules and it says nothing about not discussing maid/est repair. This is for educational purposes. And, if like me, changing these numbers is legal if you own both the donor (which in my case is broken) and the clone, and are not trying to sell the donor or clone, which would be invasion of privacy and fraud, then it is legal. I own both phones. My touch pro wont boot anymore and I own my droid 2 global, which is the one I want to write theses numbers to. I am not selling either. So why not learn more about these devices. I should be able to do what I want with my property. Take a look here, I googled this just for you and people like you. -> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud <- And as can see clearly I am doing nothing illegal. I wish people would stop saying that it is illegal. It scares people who just heard it somewhere else without doing their own research first. On with this discussion please mods.
I still don't understand what this is. I seen this posted on Howard, and was interested by the topic. I tried Googling but I came up short with any clear definitions.
narsciso said:
I still don't understand what this is. I seen this posted on Howard, and was interested by the topic. I tried Googling but I came up short with any clear definitions.
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The meid/esn is the phone-specific "serial" number that Verizon uses to identify your phone. If a phone is reported as lost or stolen to Verizon, the meid/esn gets blacklisted so that the phone cannot be activated (so if someone steals your phone or finds it on the street, they can't put it on their account).
This thread describes how to alter the meid/esn to something else, so it can be fixed/unblacklisted.
solcam said:
I have just read the forum rules and it says nothing about not discussing maid/est repair. This is for educational purposes. And, if like me, changing these numbers is legal if you own both the donor (which in my case is broken) and the clone, and are not trying to sell the donor or clone, which would be invasion of privacy and fraud, then it is legal. I own both phones. My touch pro wont boot anymore and I own my droid 2 global, which is the one I want to write theses numbers to. I am not selling either. So why not learn more about these devices. I should be able to do what I want with my property. Take a look here, I googled this just for you and people like you. -> http://www.fcc.gov/guides/cell-phone-fraud <- And as can see clearly I am doing nothing illegal. I wish people would stop saying that it is illegal. It scares people who just heard it somewhere else without doing their own research first. On with this discussion please mods.
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Well I'm glad you answered your own question then =)
What Is Cell Phone Cloning Fraud?
Every cell phone is supposed to have a unique factory-set electronic serial number (ESN) and telephone number (MIN). A cloned cell phone is one that has been reprogrammed to transmit the ESN and MIN belonging to another (legitimate) cell phone. Unscrupulous people can obtain valid ESN/MIN combinations by illegally monitoring the radio wave transmissions from the cell phones of legitimate subscribers. After cloning, both the legitimate and the fraudulent cell phones have the same ESN/MIN combination and cellular systems cannot distinguish the cloned cell phone from the legitimate one. The legitimate phone user then gets billed for the cloned phone’s calls. Call your carrier if you think you have been a victim of cloning fraud.
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What you would be doing is not illegal, but the information used to do your 'legal' activity could be used to do something illegal. Yes it comes down to "ZOMG Some guy posted a bomb recipe, that's illegal!!!"... well no, but whoever hosts that bomb making recipe could be held as an accomplice for future bombings using said recipe.
Which is why MEID/ESN changing is usually instantly locked on most if not all US forum sites, including this one.
A little help
Honestly I thought this thread would be closed a while back because every time i looked into this before threads would magically dissappear. But its still here so here is some help. The esn meid is only half the problem, the other half is the A-key, this key verifies your phone every time you make a phone call, wihout jt you will get a message that tells you your phone cannot be verified. After you manage to get that you need a username and password in order to achieve 3g access. That aside the reason your hexs dont match is because its ram and he meid will get moved around randomly after boot. Basically this means that you will need to find all addresses before your next reboot or the keys might move again. So not only is the hexes different from phone to phone it is also different from boot to boot. Another thing you are having issues wih is the meid returnin after each reboot. This only happens when you miss an meid. I have found that there are certain locations that have memory locks and will nkt let you map it. If you use the default settings for scanning you will miss meid locations. What you have to do is scan and after each map decrease the number smaller and closer to the memory lock until you find the exact location for thsat memory lock. Repeat for each lock until you have exact locations for every valid memory location. Then dump those locations and use a hex editor to calculate where each meid location is. Use another tool to directly modify each meid location to all 0s. After all locations for both esn and meid are 0ed then you can reboot. Oh forgot to mention one more thing he esn and meid are reverse inverted. Meaning an esn will be A00000123456 will be 56 34 12 00 00 A0 same with esn.
And yes i was being purposly vague. If you cant fill in the blanks you really shouldnt be atempting to do this. You can easily permanently brick your phone.
HacDan said:
Well I'm glad you answered your own question then =)
What you would be doing is not illegal, but the information used to do your 'legal' activity could be used to do something illegal. Yes it comes down to "ZOMG Some guy posted a bomb recipe, that's illegal!!!"... well no, but whoever hosts that bomb making recipe could be held as an accomplice for future bombings using said recipe.
Which is why MEID/ESN changing is usually instantly locked on most if not all US forum sites, including this one.
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That isn't true, the hosting party can not be brought in as an accomplice you need to go get your facts straight. If the hosting agent said "Hey you should blow up a building with this bomb" then you are right. If they say "We are a library of knowledge" they can not.
It's all about intent. For this purpose it is about information, and information is power. There are a LOT more people trying to FIX their phones then trying to steal. There are many other valid and lawful uses as well, such as switching these verizon wireless phones to cricket or some other prepaid service (which is legal if you buy one of their pre-paid phones and use it as a donor phone).
People, please take your head out of your butt on this issue. It is not illegal, it is what you do with the information that makes it legal/illegal. If you are a crook you will get caught and do 5 years for screwing around with phones (moron). If you are not a crook and are looking to xfer service to a prepay or fix your phone then it's perfectly lawful.
ok here is my issue with this also. I am on metro and I have the eris flashed by them to talk and text. I received a droid a855 which I see fully flashed to metro everywhere for sale people talking about them anything of the sort. But I have flashed the prl and all info for metro but will they turn it on. NOPE they will not add the clean esn from my droid to their network at all. So I have been searching for how to do this also as I will scrap my eris for use as a testing and wifi only device and put its info on the droid and then put the eris sticker on it also. And the eris will be blank. But do you think I could get this to work right nope. I have found 4 total meid/esn locations and changed them with a few programs and also made sure they are right. and reflashed the file to the phone and nothing at all changed. I need help please. And to the legality of this I called a guy on craigslist and asked him to put my esn in metros data base and he said I have to have a account and he would change the esn and meid to match my metro phone that is on now?????? he had posted as to adding the esn not changing. And he is not the only one here doing this. I have skills in computers and phones but im just lost on the droid not taking the writes. Ok thanks and PM me if needed.
Preach! Free speech dies another slow death... Instead of commenting, help someone with a cellular issue... Pay it forward = mankind advances by helping one another
HacDan said:
Well I'm glad you answered your own question then =)
What you would be doing is not illegal, but the information used to do your 'legal' activity could be used to do something illegal. Yes it comes down to "ZOMG Some guy posted a bomb recipe, that's illegal!!!"... well no, but whoever hosts that bomb making recipe could be held as an accomplice for future bombings using said recipe.
Which is why MEID/ESN changing is usually instantly locked on most if not all US forum sites, including this one.
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This is very help fully I wish I knew this when I got my phone because it was 9pm est and I was not a authorized user on my parents account and my grandmother is on the otherwise of the country and I had to wait a whole day to activate the phone and if I would of known about this I would of transferred my Omnia's meid over
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Sorry, but this stinks of legal technicalities.
Rule #9 is used in situations like these, and so I'll have to close the thread.
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
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Stolen Phone Recovered but Locked!!!

Law Enforcement helped me recover my phone which was taken from me at gunpoint.
During the robbery i was forced to unlock my device and remove my google and Samsung account. Fast forward some weeks later. The police were able to retrieve my device and arrest the suspect (who put a screen lock on my phone,claims he doesn't remember the password for it). I am now locked out of my own phone and i am stuck.
Couple things to note:
The device is a Samsung Note 8 (N950U) running Android 9 with OTA firmware version N950USQU8DUA3.
There is a screen lock (Password not pin)
No Custom Recovery.(Bootloader Locked)
No root access.
USB Debugging not enabled.
FRP ON.
I know the device is dated.
A new phone is not an option. (this phone was a gift from my family to me).
My goal is simply to be able to use this phone once again. Any suggestions for going about that?
Have you tried reseting the phone via ADB?
EDIT: nvm I just realized you have debugging disabled .. my bad
That's quite a story... welcome to XDA.
superposition said:
Law Enforcement helped me recover my phone which was taken from me at gunpoint.
During the robbery i was forced to unlock my device and remove my google and Samsung account. Fast forward some weeks later. The police were able to retrieve my device and arrest the suspect (who put a screen lock on my phone,claims he doesn't remember the password for it). I am now locked out of my own phone and i am stuck.
Couple things to note:
The device is a Samsung Note 8 (N950U) running Android 9 with OTA firmware version N950USQU8DUA3.
There is a screen lock (Password not pin)
No Custom Recovery.(Bootloader Locked)
No root access.
USB Debugging not enabled.
FRP ON.
I know the device is dated.
A new phone is not an option. (this phone was a gift from my family to me).
My goal is simply to be able to use this phone once again. Any suggestions for going about that?
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I believe you will need to take it to a service centre who can then remove the lock but you need proof of purchase.
What a dumb criminal though, robbing someone but then keeping the phone for himself and not selling it on.
Are you sure you are not the criminal trying to get in to someones phone?
Somewhat hard for me to believe that someone is gonna rob an old Samsung phone and force by gun the owner to remove samsung and google account.
I really find it more likely that someone who steals a phone and cannot get it open no matter what, comes here with this story
Spere said:
Are you sure you are not the criminal trying to get in to someones phone?
Somewhat hard for me to believe that someone is gonna rob an old Samsung phone and force by gun the owner to remove samsung and google account.
I really find it more likely that someone who steals a phone and cannot get it open no matter what, comes here with this story
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Spere said:
Are you sure you are not the criminal trying to get in to someones phone?
Somewhat hard for me to believe that someone is gonna rob an old Samsung phone and force by gun the owner to remove samsung and google account.
I really find it more likely that someone who steals a phone and cannot get it open no matter what, comes here with this story
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Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
superposition said:
Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
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It's -your- story it's self that has caused the distrust.
Attacking members here won't further you along.
We help people solve -their- problems because we like too...
Right now I'm not feeling it... I see you.
superposition said:
Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
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if you own it you'll still have the box it came in which thieves don't normally get. take that and your police incident report number to your local service centre and explain your predicament.
superposition said:
Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
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3 of us who have commented to you clearly show skepticism because we have, as senior members, seen so many of these posts and the stories just keep getting better. You story is very far fetched to say the least, although granted not impossible. We do not want to help criminals which I hope you understand.
If you had bothered to read my previous comment to you I said to take it to a service centre but you need proof of purchase, the fact you have this is your problem solved. Have a good day buddy.
stonedpsycho said:
3 of us who have commented to you clearly show skepticism because we have, as senior members, seen so many of these posts and the stories just keep getting better. You story is very far fetched to say the least, although granted not impossible. We do not want to help criminals which I hope you understand.
If you had bothered to read my previous comment to you I said to take it to a service centre but you need proof of purchase, the fact you have this is your problem solved. Have a good day buddy.
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I could respect that. But what does throwing shade accomplish? Thats the part i dont get. Keep your skepticism to yourself and move on. Why bother to even comment.
superposition said:
I could respect that. But what does throwing shade accomplish? Thats the part i dont get. Keep your skepticism to yourself and move on. Why bother to even comment.
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Meh maybe you should heed your own advise...
blackhawk said:
It's -your- story it's self that has caused the distrust.
Attacking members here won't further you along.
We help people solve -their- problems because we like too...
Right now I'm not feeling it... I see you.
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Im not attacking anyone.
I get that words can be misconstrued and taken out of context when left up to interpretation.
Fine.
To each his own. If you are not feeling it, that's fine too.
But its not my story that caused distrust. There was a bias there before.
You immediately lumped me in the category with every other "dishonest" person that came before.
I guess to you that's fair.
But every single one of you rule out the possibility that my story is actually true.
Im not attacking anyone,dude straight up flamed me and i just came seeking help so i was confused. LOL!
blackhawk said:
Meh maybe you should heed your own advise...
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blackhawk said:
Meh maybe you should heed your own advise...
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Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
superposition said:
Im not attacking anyone.
I get that words can be misconstrued and taken out of context when left up to interpretation.
Fine.
To each his own. If you are not feeling it, that's fine too.
But its not my story that caused distrust. There was a bias there before.
You immediately lumped me in the category with every other "dishonest" person that came before.
I guess to you that's fair.
But every single one of you rule out the possibility that my story is actually true.
Im not attacking anyone,dude straight up flamed me and i just came seeking help so i was confused. LOL!
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Let me guess... you don't do too well with cops?
Brevity, do you know it?
blackhawk said:
Let me guess... you don't do too well with cops?
Brevity, do you know it?
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Disclaimer: I take no offence in your post.
Thankfully,through the questions that you asked,you have already shown your incompetence/inability to provide genuine assistance....(thus saving me precious time from engaging you in future).
but....
How unhappy you must be.Maybe you have a rough life or a rough day....who cares?!?! (not me).
If your life sucks.....taking out your frustration on this post is not the way to go kid.
Needless to say....
YOUR CYNICISM is NOT welcomed!!!
Moving forward, if someone does have the solution and authenticity is a concern,I can provide all supporting documents (police report,proof of purchase etc...All other cynical and useless crap will be ignored.
Thanks alot!
superposition said:
I could respect that. But what does throwing shade accomplish? Thats the part i dont get. Keep your skepticism to yourself and move on. Why bother to even comment.
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I could not agree more, why did I bother to try and help you, what an idiot I am. Any future post from you that I may see I will avoid like the plague Your attitude stinks.
I told you what you need to do, you say you have proof of purchase so go and take it to a service center. Most people would have thanked me for that but I just get attitude, I solved your problem! The fact you don't recognise my help just shows me that you are in fact not the true owner of the phone because you want a different method don't you...
The Note 8 is such a great phone, best phone I have ever owned and it must suck having this greatness in your hand and not be able to use it.
Ok one and all, I think this thread has run it's course. Since the OP has received legitimate answers, I see no reason to continue this discussion at the risk of
continuing a flame war that has already begun. Thread closed.
-Regards: Badger50

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