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Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.
are you talking hardwire or BT.
I have the BT module in my A3, no issues from day one..
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are you talking hardwire or BT.
I have the BT module in my A3, no issues from day one..
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I'm using BT - the phone itself works fine and it connects using rSAP perfect, except it will not download the phone book.
I would take the VW in, see if there is a software upgrade.
I have paired a Razr, 6700 (CDMA) Tytn and a Tytn II to my A3, and the phone book downloaded every one except the CDMA 6700
mjed2006 said:
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.
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Have you enabled/ticked remote sim access in the bluetooth settings menu on the TYTN II?
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I would take the VW in, see if there is a software upgrade.
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I have contacted my local VW and they don't know of any software upgrade. They are going to ask VW but thinks we may get a negative answer back as the phone is not on their supported phone list.
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Have you enabled/ticked remote sim access in the bluetooth settings menu on the TYTN II?
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Yes - As I said earlier the phone connects and works perfectly with the car - except for the phone book not being downloaded.
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Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
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This may be a problem specifically to the HT-2, unless the Audi version is the same hardware. I don't have a VW, but do have an older Nokia rsap carkit (610) and that will work fine for sending / receiving calls and texts, but will not copy the text back to the phone. For contacts, it will read ones off the SIM, but refused to read the contacts from the main memory. As an experiment, try storing a couple of numbers on the SIM, then set the HT-2 to only download SIM contacts (if possible) and see if that works...least then you will know if it's all contacts, or only the main memory ones.
Thanks Steve
Already tried that - it will take contacts off the sim - all communication with the sim works just as it should - it just wont play ball with the phone book.
Maybe thats the only option available to you?have the SIM as full as possible with all the main numbers you are likely to call when in the car,then maybe hae a holder for the tytn say a brodit cradle on a dashmount so you can acces other contacts.
Tom Williams said:
Maybe thats the only option available to you?have the SIM as full as possible with all the main numbers you are likely to call when in the car,then maybe hae a holder for the tytn say a brodit cradle on a dashmount so you can acces other contacts.
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I've just got the Brodit holder ready to go in. (As the Car Phone takes over the use of the SIM from the TyTN, I will not be able to dial out with the TyTN - only look up the numbers so I would have to key them into the Car Phone).
The thing I don't like about using the SIM is it fills the TyTN phone book with really poor quality contacts (and I don't mean the people them selves ) but creates duplicates or even triplicates as the SIM only holds one number per name and some contacts have home, mobile and even work plus the original sync entry from my exchange server.
Its really annoying as it works perfect with my Nokia N95 and I got fed up with the symbian OS short comings trying to connect to MS exchange etc. - that's why I now have the TyTN.
One day we might be able to get it to work....!
the symbian OS has a mail for exchange client that should run on the N95 which you plug in all your exchange server details etc.
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the symbian OS has a mail for exchange client that should run on the N95 which you plug in all your exchange server details etc.
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Thanks Tom. Yes it has and it does, but as with all things that use a 'middle ware' its not a seamless as the real thing. The way in which the HTC will communicate with my server is as near to perfect as its going to get and the ease of entering data and using the calender on the HTC is (in my opinion) much easier.
I upgraded from the N95 to the HTC to get what I thought was a better business phone and that I think is what I got - except for this damn phone book...!
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Thanks Steve
Already tried that - it will take contacts off the sim - all communication with the sim works just as it should - it just wont play ball with the phone book.
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Then I think you'll find that's the incompatibility of the Nokia carkit and Windows mobile. I tried my carkit with a Nokia 6230i and everything is seamless.
Personally I blame Nokia, since they are known to have taken the 'open' bluetooth standard and made it somewhat propriatary on their devices. For example a headset that just worked fine on a very old Ericsson (possibly one of the first bluetooth headsets, and phones), fine on both my HTC devices, refuses to work at all with a Nokia 6310, 6230 and only partially with a 6230i, as in it worked when it felt like and the wind was blowing in the right direction. I've found several bluetooth devices that do this. Look at the bright side though, at least it works for voice calls fine! My old HTC phone would pair up nicely, but unless you left it doing something (like playing music on silent) it would powerdown and disconnect after 20 mins, regardless of being in a call or not. It also required a soft reset after I turned the ignition off, but before the carkit disconected, otherwise the phone would know it was disconnected but refuse to reactive its own phone unless I went into comm manager, pressed the phone icon 3 times (waiting for it to try to power up each time), then soft reset, then switch the phone on again. It got old quickly...and no, the jetware software you can get didn't help.
try this
Make sure that your phone numbers have no symbols other than (, ), or -. Remove all other letters and symbols like p, x, extension, *, etc.
This worked to connect to my Parrot.
Sorted - The Answer...!
OK - not the perfect solution, but at least it works.
1. Pair the TyTN II to the car (Nokia HT-2) phone.
2. Switch car ignition OFF and switch off TyTN II.
3. Remove SIM from TyTN II.
4. Place SIM into a compatible phone (in my case Nokia N95).
5. Switch on N95, switch on Bluetooth, switch on Remote SIM access.
6. Change the Bluetooth ID name on the N95 to the same as the TyTN II.
7. Make phone discoverable via Bluetooth.
8. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
9. Using car controls search for new device.
10. When N95 is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as the TyTN II (if you selected the same name for the Bluetooth ID).
11. On the car browse to Settings - Phonebook - Update, this will then import all your contacts from your N95 (or compatible phone).
12. Switch off ignition and switch off N95.
13. Replace SIM back to TyTN II.
14. Ensure TyTN II Bluetooth is ON, Remote SIM is ON and the phone is Discoverable.
15. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
16. Using car controls search for new device.
17. When TyTN II is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as before.
18. Now browse the car Phonebook as normal - All your contacts are now available for you to use.
19. Don't forget to turn off discoverability on the TyTN II and to rename your compatible phone (N95) to prevent any future conflicts.
This worked for me! I hope it will work for you! Good Luck!
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OK - not the perfect solution, but at least it works.
1. Pair the TyTN II to the car (Nokia HT-2) phone.
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19. Don't forget to turn off discoverability on the TyTN II and to rename your compatible phone (N95) to prevent any future conflicts.
This worked for me! I hope it will work for you! Good Luck!
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Crikey! And I thought I had to jump through hoops! Well done on finding a solution..how on earth did you come up with it?!
Although this works for now what happens when you add new contacts?
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Although this works for now what happens when you add new contacts?
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You'll have to add it in the same way using the compatible phone - a pain I know (especially if you have a high rate of turnover of friends etc!). But at least its better than using the TyTN as a telephone directory stuck in a Brodit holder!
The numbers are in the car phone and the TyTN is prepared to talk to it - best solution to date! If someone can better it, please do. I for one will be greatfull.
mjed2006 said:
Please read my post on page TWO for the solution...
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.
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Can anyone tell me if the HT-2 phone preparation is called "Premium Bluetooth"?
I've read all the VW forums and no one can tell me if Vw's "Premium Bluetooth" module (5N0 035 730) is dual band 800/1900 or quad band 800/850/1800/1900.
I'd like to purchase one because I have an rSAP compatible phone but I live in the U.S. and we only have GSM850/1900 frequencies.
Also, does anyone know if the module downloads phonebook contacts in stored on the phone's memory (not the SIM)? In other words does it have Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)? Additionally, if it has PBAP, is it PBAP/PSE or PBAP/PCE?
One last question...does the "Basic Bluetooth" aka "Bluetooth Audio" (3C0 035 729) the kind everyone gets from Skoda support PBAP? If so which type of PBAP does it support - most new phones with PBAP only support PSE.
Any photos of the labels from both of these would be great. I especially need a close-up of the "Premium Bluetooth" unit I can't make out what is says under "NOKIA" - if it's a Nokia-specific code I could get some definitive answers from them.
Thanks!
i HAVE A KAISER TILT ALSO KNOW AS ATT TILT AND AM HAVING TROUBLE DOWNLOADING MY CONTACTS TO MY NOKIA BLUETOOTH CAR KIT HAS ANY ONE HAVE ANY TROUBLE DOWNLOADING THERE CONTACT LIST IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE I NEED TO ADD TO THE PHONE. I TRIED USING AN APPLICATION CALLED JETWARE WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO DOWNLOAD BUT WHEN I MAKE A CALL IT WONT ALLOW ME TO HANG-UP THE CALL. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.
First, STOP YELLING !!
Second, try using the enter key sometimes.
Third, i didn't read your post, can't help ya, sorry.
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First, STOP YELLING !!
Second, try using the enter key sometimes.
Third, i didn't read your post, can't help ya, sorry.
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dude? why?
hey man sorry that guy was such a jerk dont want that to be your first expericne here as long as you search before asking most people will be more then willing to help you. sorry i cant help ya though. my only guess is maybe did you install a wm 6.1 rom? they have some probems with bluetooth but i dont think thats it
Did you try it without Jetware? Made sure your bluetooth was set as discoverable? Paired the device? The more info YOU provide as to what you've done, tried, & what setup you've done it with...the beter the help & answers you'll get.
I'd suggest filtering through the following threads. There have been similar problems fixed:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=364559&highlight=Kaiser+Nokia+car+kit
In the above thread the original poster solved his nokia carkit issue following this:
1. Pair the TyTN II to the car (Nokia HT-2) phone.
2. Switch car ignition OFF and switch off TyTN II.
3. Remove SIM from TyTN II.
4. Place SIM into a compatible phone (in my case Nokia N95).
5. Switch on N95, switch on Bluetooth, switch on Remote SIM access.
6. Change the Bluetooth ID name on the N95 to the same as the TyTN II.
7. Make phone discoverable via Bluetooth.
8. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
9. Using car controls search for new device.
10. When N95 is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as the TyTN II (if you selected the same name for the Bluetooth ID).
11. On the car browse to Settings - Phonebook - Update, this will then import all your contacts from your N95 (or compatible phone).
12. Switch off ignition and switch off N95.
13. Replace SIM back to TyTN II.
14. Ensure TyTN II Bluetooth is ON, Remote SIM is ON and the phone is Discoverable.
15. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
16. Using car controls search for new device.
17. When TyTN II is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as before.
18. Now browse the car Phonebook as normal - All your contacts are now available for you to use.
19. Don't forget to turn off discoverability on the TyTN II and to rename your compatible phone (N95) to prevent any future conflicts.
This worked for me! I hope it will work for you! Good Luck!
I did try it with removing the jetware the bluetooth works fine but cant download contacts is there anyother patch or software more compatable with nokia bluetooth devices. Jet ware is good but wont let me disconect call when done any one else have an issue like this
BOBBYDS1 is your connection between the Kaiser and the Car Kit using Bluetooth as a headset (in other words the phone still functions and you can look up and dial with the phone) or is it using rSAP (Remote Sim) which switches your Kaiser into flight mode.
I ask this as it will determine which way you look for a solution. If its using rSAP then most Nokia systems that are fitted into cars as factory fit have not yet developed the correct software to communicate with Windows Mobile devices, in which case you will need to remove Jetware from you Kaiser and use my solution on a previous post as quoted above.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...+Nokia+car+kit
Mark
The phone still functions as i can disconnect by the phone it self here is the thing sometimes I can disconnect call by the nokia bluetooth device but a lot of times I cannot disconnect, i have to pull phone out of my pocket and end call
@BOBBYDS1 and fb.knight
No offence guys, but you need to go back to Junior High and learn how to use commas, question marks and letter cases.
Posts like that will rarely get you any kind of a reasonable response.
what nokia bluetooth car kit are you trying to use?
Still not clear if your carkit is using headset or rSAP profiles. Can you either tell us the model of the carkit, or tell us if you can browse the internet from the phone whilst its connected to the carkit?
Punctuation good enough there Dark?! (JOKE!!)
IT is a Nokia CK15-w Bluetooth Car kit Here is a link to it. http://www.nokiausa.com/A4431279
Also I can surf the internet while it is connected to the bluetooth.
Looks like that model supports:
Hands-free Profile 1.5, Phonebook Access Profile 1.0
(Source: Nokia Europe
The Kaiser supports:
File Transfer Profile, SIM Access Profile (rSAP), Dial-Up Networking Profile, Personal Area Networking Profile, Hands-Free Profile 1.5, Advanced Audio Distribution Profile (I'm guessing A2DP)
(Source: www.theunwired.net
So I'm guessing that whilst it will work as a glorified headset, you have no chance of getting your contacts downloaded! Should be able to get them from your SIM, just not the main memory. Wonder why Nokia removed the rSAP profile? It was on their 610 (rSAP only) 616 (rSAP and Handsfree) then from the 810 and CK-15 it seems to be handsfree only. This could be why so many are having problems with Nokia carkits, Nokia went and changed the supported bluetooth profiles. Funny, I would have thought the newer the model, the more it would have done, but I guess not! Glad I looked into this as I was thinking about 'upgrading' to the 810 for the full handset, guess I won't be now!
I am getting confused, I downloaded the jetstream program to the phone and was able to download the contact list no problem. The problem i am having is when i make a call from the nokia bluetooth when I am done and hit the endcall button on the nokia it does not end the call, I have to pull out the phone and hit the end button on the phone itself. any suggestions on how to correct this.
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I am getting confused,
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Not as much as everyone else reading your post and trying to help!
BOBBYDS1 said:
AM HAVING TROUBLE DOWNLOADING MY CONTACTS
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ANY ONE HAVE ANY TROUBLE DOWNLOADING THERE CONTACT LIST
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I TRIED USING AN APPLICATION CALLED JETWARE WHICH WILL ALLOW ME TO DOWNLOAD BUT WHEN I MAKE A CALL IT WONT ALLOW ME TO HANG-UP THE CALL.
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removing the jetware the bluetooth works fine but cant download contacts
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So downloading contacts isn't your problem, hanging up whilst having jetware installed is? Better post would have been something along the lines of:
"I'm having trouble ending calls on my Kaiser using the end button on my Nokia CK-15 carkit. I installed the Jetware program to enable downloading contacts, but this stops the end key working on the Kaiser, before this it was working fine just the carkit couldn't download contacts. Does anyone know of any settings in Jetware I can try, that would restore the end key function, or other software that would still enable me to download contacts and have and end key?" - That might have got you an answer sooner...
Right, the phone as it comes doesn't support phonebook access, thus you won't be able to download your contacts. Actually, none of the Nokia bluetooth carkits support downloading contacts from the internal memory of a Windows Mobile device, probably because no Nokia uses Windows Mobile (yet).
You add something like Jetware which gives you the ability to access the phonebook, but then you are unable to end a call via the carkit. My best guess is Jetware does something which interupts the commands from the carkit. I'm also guessing your stuck with either having contacts download or and end call option. Add Jetware back and play with it's settings. You may get lucky. However bluetooth is very buggy and the only way to get 2 devices to work perfectly with eachother without running the risk of having to fiddle or loose something is to buy them from the same manufacturer and check they are fully compatible with eachother. Two devices from 2 manufacturers don't always work.
Here are some examples:
Old Ericsson headset, will work perfectly with my old HTC phone and can't even be seen by my Kaiser. Slightly newer one (that has an LCD for caller ID) will work once connected until I switch it off, then requires the old HTC phone to be soft reset before it will connect again. Works perfectly with the Kaiser. Brand new, cheapy Motorola headset does what it feels like with no consistency on my older HTC, again works perfectly on the Kaiser. My Nokia 610 carkit will connect to both phones, but whilst the older phone needs to be soft reset before turning off the ignition (otherwise the phone part of things crashes), the Kaiser will connect and disconnect just as Nokia intend. The carkit will only download SIM contacts. The fix posted above isn't really a fix, it's fooling the carkit into thinking that another phone (the Nokia N95) is the kaiser, downloading the contacts from it and then reconnecting the real Kaiser. Not a fix, but a brilliant workaround.
Also noticed that the CK-15 uses bluetooth version 1.2, the Kaiser bluetooth version 2. This might be something to do with it.
In short, I think you will have to live with either a phonebook, or an end function. Welcome to the wonderful world of bluetooth. It also doesn't help that Nokia hasa a history of making devices which don't work with anything other than another Nokia device...
Is there any way to change the kaiser to use bluetooth 1.2. Also is there a way to contact jetware besides email as they dont reply.
In your reply you state thAT Nokia devices csnt download from internal memory of kaiser phone, how can i set it up to download from the sim is there a way.
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Is there any way to change the kaiser to use bluetooth 1.2
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I seriously doubt anyone will be writing a bluetooth stack v1.2 for the Kaiser anytime soon. I also have a feeling that the versions are hardware, not software related, so its impossible. I think you may have to accept that the Kaiser and Nokia will never play nicely. Why don't you install Jetware, sync your contacts, then either disable it (I'm sure I remember an option in the settings when I tried it previously) or just delete the program? You could keep the installer cab on your device somewhere as its only 500kb for when you need to reinstall it?
If there isn't a phone number on the jetware homepage, I'm betting you can't call them. But I did notice there is an advanced set-up options menu. Did you try unchecking all the boxes apart from phonebooks? If the "hang-up/swap to incomming call" option is unchecked, Jetware should pass that command to the phones standard bluetooth software and give you back your end key. From the Jetware site:
"When this option is unchecked the Extension will allow hang up commands to be processed by the built-in code, which will disconnect all active voice calls."
If it's currently checked, try unchecking it.
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In your reply you state thAT Nokia devices csnt download from internal memory of kaiser phone, how can i set it up to download from the sim is there a way.
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Have you read the manual? In my 610 manual, it tells me I can choose to dowload phone, SIM, or phone and SIM memory. Does yours?
Now it seems that call waiting is not working in the bluetooth unit, itried the settings both ways in jetware but still no go. any ideas
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Still not clear if your carkit is using headset or rSAP profiles. Can you either tell us the model of the carkit, or tell us if you can browse the internet from the phone whilst its connected to the carkit?
Punctuation good enough there Dark?! (JOKE!!)
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Well, since you asked, it should be 'it's', not 'its'.
I've had my Diamond for a week now and apart from the battery life being a bit poor - I love it!
I'm managing to get through all the little niggles and annoyances with the help of you guys - but this one has me stumped!
I set it up with my bluetooth car kit. Its an Alpine stereo with a bluetooth unit attached (iDA-X001 with KCE-300BT if anyones interested?!).
The car kit has worked fine with most of my previous phones except Nokia Symbian ones. Perhaps this has changed in newer updates to them - but the original N95 wouldnt display my phone book.#
It works the same way as a Parrot - in that the unit checks your phone book for recent updates - and keeps them stored on it. Then you can dial from it by selecting a number from your 'local' phonebook.
The Diamond seems to work fine with incoming calls - but sticks at 'Updating' with outgoing - meaning I can never make a call from the car kit without dialing with the handset. Its like it never pushes the phone numbers across to the bluetooth adapter (which is meant to store them). I've clicked the Remote SIM on in the settings. Anything else I can try?
Is there a way I can FORCE my contacts onto it?
I am haviing trouble with the bluetooth handsfree operation when connecting my TYTN II to the above car unit. The unit accepts calls fine and I can make calls fine when dialling from the phone unit but the functionality of the head unit never works so even though the address book has downloaded andcan be seen when accessing different functions I cannot bring it up on the unit to make a call. The incoming callers details are displayed also so that suggests everything has sync'd ok.
Has anyone else come across this and if so can you give me some advice as I suppose I can live with it but it's a shame not to get the full functionality from the units bluetoth.
Really appreciate any help you may be able to give.
Thanks,
Tim
I had a similar problem with my BT car kit (ck-15w nokia)not reading the contacts from the phones memory the solution I found was to add Jetware software to the phone (http://www.jetwaremobile.com/) they have free demo download which allowed the car kit to read all my contacts ok
Hi,
The address book on the xperia becomes unavailable from my car kit (Audi standard MMI).
If I reload the ROM it works fine for anywhere from a week to a month.
Then for no apparent reason the address/call info disappears and the phone continually will prompt to allow access to contacts when it first pairs with the carkit.
Deleting the pairing does not help - only reloading the ROM.
I am sure there is a registry key somewhere that could help.
Your guruness appreciated.
thanks
delete call history
Hi torobullo,
I know this thread is quite old but in case you still have the problem I found the cause of this issue.
I had the same problem then you that the contacts dissapeared
You don't need to reload the ROM.
All you have to do is to delete the call history. It seems that if this list gets to big it can't transfer it and therfore also the contacts anymore.
Give it a try I am sure it will fix your issue as well.
Xperia and Audi
Been having the same problem - thus far your solution seems to work. Many thanks. Les
Thanks despite it being an old query. Solved my problem on a modern Alpine car kit. Model CDE-103EBT in case anyone is looking for the same solution. Was just about to give up and kick the X1 into touch. Phew!