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Can WMDC Bluetooth Sync happen automatically?

Hi, I'm pleased to say that setting up my TyTN II to sync via Bluetooth with my laptop running Vista's Windows Mobile Device Centre was a doddle. None of the nonsense I had before on WM5 and my Wizard.
However, it appears Bluetooth sync needs to be invoked manually each time from the TyTN. This makes this lovely feature next to useless.
With Nokia PC Sync for example, Bluetooth sync to a Nokia phone can happen whenever the phone comes back into range, or every 15 minutes if you so choose.
So, is there any way to specify this with Windows?

I don't think so at the moment. It's a problem within the Microsoft WM OS.
I too used to love my old Nokia 9100's capability to do this but with having so many connection variants on this unit (GPRS, WiFi and BT) Microsoft have probably opted for a safe solution.
At least with manual select, you wont have it running down your battery with lots of data traffic while its in your pocket/purse at home/work without you knowing!
Maybe we could pass this on to the Kaiser Tweak guys to see if it could be made selectable?
Worth a try!

Sure, can you do it?

Will have a go but my 'Street cred' is a little low here at the moment....
I hope one of the other patient dev guys may look at this and take it up???

your not alone
Check out these other threads. All describe different problems people are having (including mine - not being able to automatically re-pair with my car kit).
All seem to stem from the auto re-pair problem.
If a developer could help, that would be great.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349841
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349050
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=350046
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=346970
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337575
No-one seems to have come to our aid with a new BT stack.
Reminds me very much of the early days of the hermes ... remember these days http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285419
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Many thanks.. I've looked at those and they are mostly concerned with BT connection to audio devices.. What we are looking for is an automatic polling of your device by Activesync over BT as PCsync used to do for the Nokia. The connection has to be initiated by the SW for it to work. Cheers anyway!

Sure, they are mainly about audio, however (at least in my case) the audio is perfect when its paired.
My main concern is exactly the auto polling. I can pair my device the first time to the car kit, but every time i get back into the car I have delete the pairing and pair it manually again. This is not how bluetooth should work.
I think this is very similar to the problem the author of this thread describes.

adamcullen said:
Sure, they are mainly about audio, however (at least in my case) the audio is perfect when its paired.
My main concern is exactly the auto polling. I can pair my device the first time to the car kit, but every time i get back into the car I have delete the pairing and pair it manually again. This is not how bluetooth should work.
I think this is very similar to the problem the author of this thread describes.
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Yep, my BT audio is good and you never know, if we start looking at auto-polling of data/stereo devices we may cure a lot of problems on here..
Thing is we may have to go around the Activesync overide (which is the slowest block on this setup!) and use a priority connect to BT similar to WM5torage on usb!
What ya think XDA???

Yeah its one of the few things I miss about my Nokia 7710 was that i walked into my house and it would sync with my computer automatically. sigh

Its definately a WM/Activesync 'Non-feature' as when you first pair your device to an Activesync capable BT PC or laptop you get a pop-up message on the WM device reminding you to disconnect your BT Activesync link to avoid draining your battery!

[Solution Found!] TyTN II Connection to Volkswagen

Please read my post on page TWO for the solution...
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.

are you talking hardwire or BT.
I have the BT module in my A3, no issues from day one..

lcohen999 said:
are you talking hardwire or BT.
I have the BT module in my A3, no issues from day one..
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I'm using BT - the phone itself works fine and it connects using rSAP perfect, except it will not download the phone book.

I would take the VW in, see if there is a software upgrade.
I have paired a Razr, 6700 (CDMA) Tytn and a Tytn II to my A3, and the phone book downloaded every one except the CDMA 6700

mjed2006 said:
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.
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Have you enabled/ticked remote sim access in the bluetooth settings menu on the TYTN II?

lcohen999 said:
I would take the VW in, see if there is a software upgrade.
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I have contacted my local VW and they don't know of any software upgrade. They are going to ask VW but thinks we may get a negative answer back as the phone is not on their supported phone list.

bluchrome said:
Have you enabled/ticked remote sim access in the bluetooth settings menu on the TYTN II?
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Yes - As I said earlier the phone connects and works perfectly with the car - except for the phone book not being downloaded.

mjed2006 said:
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
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This may be a problem specifically to the HT-2, unless the Audi version is the same hardware. I don't have a VW, but do have an older Nokia rsap carkit (610) and that will work fine for sending / receiving calls and texts, but will not copy the text back to the phone. For contacts, it will read ones off the SIM, but refused to read the contacts from the main memory. As an experiment, try storing a couple of numbers on the SIM, then set the HT-2 to only download SIM contacts (if possible) and see if that works...least then you will know if it's all contacts, or only the main memory ones.

Thanks Steve
Already tried that - it will take contacts off the sim - all communication with the sim works just as it should - it just wont play ball with the phone book.

Maybe thats the only option available to you?have the SIM as full as possible with all the main numbers you are likely to call when in the car,then maybe hae a holder for the tytn say a brodit cradle on a dashmount so you can acces other contacts.

Tom Williams said:
Maybe thats the only option available to you?have the SIM as full as possible with all the main numbers you are likely to call when in the car,then maybe hae a holder for the tytn say a brodit cradle on a dashmount so you can acces other contacts.
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I've just got the Brodit holder ready to go in. (As the Car Phone takes over the use of the SIM from the TyTN, I will not be able to dial out with the TyTN - only look up the numbers so I would have to key them into the Car Phone).
The thing I don't like about using the SIM is it fills the TyTN phone book with really poor quality contacts (and I don't mean the people them selves ) but creates duplicates or even triplicates as the SIM only holds one number per name and some contacts have home, mobile and even work plus the original sync entry from my exchange server.
Its really annoying as it works perfect with my Nokia N95 and I got fed up with the symbian OS short comings trying to connect to MS exchange etc. - that's why I now have the TyTN.
One day we might be able to get it to work....!

the symbian OS has a mail for exchange client that should run on the N95 which you plug in all your exchange server details etc.

Tom Williams said:
the symbian OS has a mail for exchange client that should run on the N95 which you plug in all your exchange server details etc.
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Thanks Tom. Yes it has and it does, but as with all things that use a 'middle ware' its not a seamless as the real thing. The way in which the HTC will communicate with my server is as near to perfect as its going to get and the ease of entering data and using the calender on the HTC is (in my opinion) much easier.
I upgraded from the N95 to the HTC to get what I thought was a better business phone and that I think is what I got - except for this damn phone book...!

mjed2006 said:
Thanks Steve
Already tried that - it will take contacts off the sim - all communication with the sim works just as it should - it just wont play ball with the phone book.
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Then I think you'll find that's the incompatibility of the Nokia carkit and Windows mobile. I tried my carkit with a Nokia 6230i and everything is seamless.
Personally I blame Nokia, since they are known to have taken the 'open' bluetooth standard and made it somewhat propriatary on their devices. For example a headset that just worked fine on a very old Ericsson (possibly one of the first bluetooth headsets, and phones), fine on both my HTC devices, refuses to work at all with a Nokia 6310, 6230 and only partially with a 6230i, as in it worked when it felt like and the wind was blowing in the right direction. I've found several bluetooth devices that do this. Look at the bright side though, at least it works for voice calls fine! My old HTC phone would pair up nicely, but unless you left it doing something (like playing music on silent) it would powerdown and disconnect after 20 mins, regardless of being in a call or not. It also required a soft reset after I turned the ignition off, but before the carkit disconected, otherwise the phone would know it was disconnected but refuse to reactive its own phone unless I went into comm manager, pressed the phone icon 3 times (waiting for it to try to power up each time), then soft reset, then switch the phone on again. It got old quickly...and no, the jetware software you can get didn't help.

try this
Make sure that your phone numbers have no symbols other than (, ), or -. Remove all other letters and symbols like p, x, extension, *, etc.
This worked to connect to my Parrot.

Sorted - The Answer...!
OK - not the perfect solution, but at least it works.
1. Pair the TyTN II to the car (Nokia HT-2) phone.
2. Switch car ignition OFF and switch off TyTN II.
3. Remove SIM from TyTN II.
4. Place SIM into a compatible phone (in my case Nokia N95).
5. Switch on N95, switch on Bluetooth, switch on Remote SIM access.
6. Change the Bluetooth ID name on the N95 to the same as the TyTN II.
7. Make phone discoverable via Bluetooth.
8. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
9. Using car controls search for new device.
10. When N95 is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as the TyTN II (if you selected the same name for the Bluetooth ID).
11. On the car browse to Settings - Phonebook - Update, this will then import all your contacts from your N95 (or compatible phone).
12. Switch off ignition and switch off N95.
13. Replace SIM back to TyTN II.
14. Ensure TyTN II Bluetooth is ON, Remote SIM is ON and the phone is Discoverable.
15. Switch on car ignition - car phone will not be able to connect.
16. Using car controls search for new device.
17. When TyTN II is found, select connect, it will use the same user profile as before.
18. Now browse the car Phonebook as normal - All your contacts are now available for you to use.
19. Don't forget to turn off discoverability on the TyTN II and to rename your compatible phone (N95) to prevent any future conflicts.
This worked for me! I hope it will work for you! Good Luck!

mjed2006 said:
OK - not the perfect solution, but at least it works.
1. Pair the TyTN II to the car (Nokia HT-2) phone.
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19. Don't forget to turn off discoverability on the TyTN II and to rename your compatible phone (N95) to prevent any future conflicts.
This worked for me! I hope it will work for you! Good Luck!
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Crikey! And I thought I had to jump through hoops! Well done on finding a solution..how on earth did you come up with it?!

Although this works for now what happens when you add new contacts?

Tom Williams said:
Although this works for now what happens when you add new contacts?
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You'll have to add it in the same way using the compatible phone - a pain I know (especially if you have a high rate of turnover of friends etc!). But at least its better than using the TyTN as a telephone directory stuck in a Brodit holder!
The numbers are in the car phone and the TyTN is prepared to talk to it - best solution to date! If someone can better it, please do. I for one will be greatfull.

mjed2006 said:
Please read my post on page TWO for the solution...
Has any one actually succeeded in connecting their TyTN II (Kaiser) to a VW phone prep (Nokia HT-2)?
I have connected and the phone works perfect, except I can not get the phone book to transfer to the car. If I try to send it manually and send as a vCard I can read the card but not save it down. I have tried using Jetware but to no avail (unless I got the settings wrong!).
Anyone else suffering from the same thing or can shine a light on a resolution?
Mark.
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Can anyone tell me if the HT-2 phone preparation is called "Premium Bluetooth"?
I've read all the VW forums and no one can tell me if Vw's "Premium Bluetooth" module (5N0 035 730) is dual band 800/1900 or quad band 800/850/1800/1900.
I'd like to purchase one because I have an rSAP compatible phone but I live in the U.S. and we only have GSM850/1900 frequencies.
Also, does anyone know if the module downloads phonebook contacts in stored on the phone's memory (not the SIM)? In other words does it have Phone Book Access Profile (PBAP)? Additionally, if it has PBAP, is it PBAP/PSE or PBAP/PCE?
One last question...does the "Basic Bluetooth" aka "Bluetooth Audio" (3C0 035 729) the kind everyone gets from Skoda support PBAP? If so which type of PBAP does it support - most new phones with PBAP only support PSE.
Any photos of the labels from both of these would be great. I especially need a close-up of the "Premium Bluetooth" unit I can't make out what is says under "NOKIA" - if it's a Nokia-specific code I could get some definitive answers from them.
Thanks!

Bluetooth stops/crashes when connected to Car kit

Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.

Well with mine i have some hickus but it just happpends once a while.
Most irritating about Diamond and BT in my opinion is that wa have no equalizing for it. and the sound setup from the begining is horrible.
Asked here if anyone has a solution before but none replied.
But as far 2 your problem no. And i use a Pioneer system in my car.

Mauser.NET said:
Hi,
When my phone is connected to my car kit (Opel/Vauxhaul UHP) bluetooth sometimes stops randomly. I can turn bluetooth on again with the commmanager and everything is working again. But it can hapen again after a few minutes.
Does anyone have this problem to or even better a solution?
I allready tried all the different Radio Roms, but this didn't solve my problem.
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HI
Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.

orsiga said:
HI
Same was happend with me (Opel), when my battery is low.
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Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??

Mauser.NET said:
Mine is not low on battery, but I shall try it once connected to the cigarette lighter.
Nobody else has this kind of problems??
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I've a JVC head and my bluetooth has no problem.

I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem

davemazo said:
I have a Honda Accord with handsfree built in and I too am having problems. The phone and car both agree that a connection has been made but when i use it to either ring out or receive a call the radio mutes and when receiving the ringing tone sounds over the car speakers but I can`t hear the caller except on the phone which isn`t very useful. Would a ROM or radio upgrade help or is it just a compatibility problem
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I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes

Mauser.NET said:
I had this kind of problems also. Also syncing the phonebook gave me problems. You could try JETware, this solved almost all my problems, except now the bluetooth crashes
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Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.

davemazo said:
Thanks Mauser. I tried Jetware as you suggest and I`m afraid it didn`t help in fact I think it crashed the handsfree system in the car like you. This is the final nail in the coffin for my Diamond. I just can`t get used to it so it`s off to Ebay with it.
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I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.

Mauser.NET said:
I'm sorry to hear that
I am very pleased with my Diamond... I would sooner put my car on eBay than my Diamond
Did you try to check almost everything on in the advanced settings of Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug and on the site of Jetware there wat a fix for Opel car kits.
Keeping my fingers crossed, but until now I haven't experienced any bluetooth crashes.
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Thanks again Mauser. I tried various settings but without any success, I think the phone is just not compatible with the Honda. Having said that I don`t have much luck with bluetooth at all on the phone. More often than not It just won`t detect other bluetooth devices and when it does it won`t send or receive files so it`s time for it to go and I can go back to a trusty Nokia

Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip

Rapier said:
Problems here with BT connection to car kit, too. I'm using the built-in car-kit of an Audi A4 (standard one not that with navigation, remote SIM, etc). I've noticed the following issues:
- when I try to make a call, the CD is cut off but NOTHING is heard in the car speakers UNTIL the other party answers the call (and then I start the conversation). No ringing tone, no nothing. I cannot hear the busy tone, or network failure/congestion tone and this is annoying since I have to keep an eye on the phone to see what's happening. I found myself checking the phone when, after calling someone, nothing happened and in fact I got a busy tone and the call ended.
- sometimes, when I receive a call, the CD stops playing but when I answer nothing is heard from the car speakers but only from the phone (as davemazo said also).
- when I receive a call, I hear in the car speakers a "standard" calling tone, not the ringtone I have assigned for that contact
I have to mention that with any Nokia I had before (and still have one as a second phone), these problems do not exist. I know there is a compatibility between Audi factory installed car-kits and Nokia, but BT is a standard and most of the functions should be supported despite the phone model/type. I've tried also with an iPhone and it's working great, as my Nokia do. I don't understand why it is like this with the Diamond. In fact, I think it is not related to Diamond itself...it's doing like this with ANY Windows Mobile device I've tried in the past (Orange C600, Samsung I600).
Are there any solutions for this? A CAB, a new BT radio, a software, anything?... I don't want to buy a new BT car-kit and try with different models until I find something compatible
Thank you for any info/tip
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Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.

Yes, I have an Audi UHV 6634. Thank you for the info, I'll try that and post the results here. Though, my car-kit is not the advanced one and I don't have to sync anything with it (contacts or something else). It's most working as a plain hands-free device, no extra functions...speaking of which, I've noticed that on the phone is detected as "hands-free"...why not "car-kit" as I know a car-kit has other functionality as well? This is the "standard" BT device for any audio enhancements (even if it is a car-kit not a BT headset), or I have to activate something to be recognized as car-kit?

Mauser.NET said:
Jetware? I have also limited the phonebook sync to max 5 entries to debug
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my Honda system doesn`t read the sim I can only dial out via handsfree using contacts i`ve entered into the Honda system otherwise I either have to read the number to the system and it will ring out (most of the time anyway) or make the call on the phone (illegally obviously) cancel the call and then say "redial" and the system makes the call. So uless I`m misunderstanding this setting I don`t think it will help me.
I`ve searched the Jetware website and I couldn`t find a fix for my Honda

UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.

Rapier said:
UPDATE: So...I've downloaded it, install it on my Diamond (including the extension file for Audi UHV) and...no change. Everything as before with both issues. Disappointed, I've uninstalled Jetware then...surprise. AFTER uninstall, I can now hear through my car's speakers the ID ringtone Maybe some BT settings were altered and remained like this after uninstall, but I don't know why it didn't work when Jetware WAS installed...strange.
Anyway, many thanks...at least half of the problems are now solved and this only by install/uninstall a program...that's cool. I must now find a way to make the car kit ring when I make a call, this is still an issue.
P.S. I've seen that Diamond support Headset and Handsfree profiles...and when connected to my car kit is set as Handsfree. I suppose this is better than Headset...but still no ring out tone.
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No thanx! I'm glad I could help

Mauser.NET said:
Hi Rapier,
I also had a SPV C500, MDA Compact, Qtek 8500, Samsung I600, HTC Touch Dual and now the Diamond. The only one which gave me no troubles was the SPV C500, but I think that was because this phone didn't support phonebook synchronization and had no network identification/signal strength over bluetooth.
After the SPV C500 it went wrong. First I noticed that after a hard reset it worked for a few days. Later (about 2 years later ) I found out that it was because the call history was going to long to sync over bluetooth.
Then I found Jetware in which you can limit syncing to any number of items. They even had a fix for the connection to my carkit.
Unit now... it works like a charm... but keep my fingers crossed
I don't know if your carkit is a Audi UHV, but I saw that they had a fix for that too! You have to just install Jetware and then run the fix-file from your phone. Good luck!!
P.S. I am in no kind related to Jetware, I just found out that it worked for me.
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Hello,
I have a Mercedes car kit and facing the same issue as you: everything works perfectly for a few days when hard-resetting my device, even with my 500+ contacts (they are loaded in less than a minute), but after a few days/weeks I can't get to have my call history or contacts displayed in less than half an hour!
Yesterday I thought I'd just hard reset my device because I had this problem again, but unfortunately it didn't work!
Guess what I have done differently this time: yes, I backed up and restored my call history, which I hadn't done the previous times! So I guess it is indeed related to the call history, but I can't test for now!
I have installed JetWare and limited the call history to 5 numbers, I'll try this tonight and I'll keep you informed...

Hello,
So I have tested this yesterday (installed Jetware and limited the call history to 5 numbers), and now it works FLAWLESSLY! I can browse through my 500 contacts instantaneously when I pair my phone with my Mercedes car kit.
So, in my case it was also clearly the CALL HISTORY that was causing problems... A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!

I'm also having problem connecting my Diamond to my Volvo S80. All the other functions work except that I could not hear the other party through my car stereo and I also could not diconnect the call with my car end key.
I'll try the Jetware and I'll report back later. Thanks for the pointer.

turt said:
A BIG BIG thanks to Mauser for pointing out this!
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No thanx! ... glad I could help

Pairing bluetooth headsets

I just recently bought a new stereo bluetooth headset (dell BH200) which sounds great when I play music through it, but it comes with a gigantic flaw. I can't make or recieve calls. The moment any of that happens, the headset disconnects itself. I'm wondering what the problem is since the headset does support 2.0 with EDR and so does the fuze. One thing I did noticed though was that when I paired the headset, it did not ask for a passkey at all and just went straight to "save".
I'm wondering if there is anything that I can do to make the headset work with phone if anyone has any idea. I was lurking around and someone mentioned something about CoD (class of device) but I dont think that's the issue.
Thankyou for your time reading this post.

mputtr said:
I just recently bought a new stereo bluetooth headset (dell BH200) which sounds great when I play music through it, but it comes with a gigantic flaw. I can't make or recieve calls. The moment any of that happens, the headset disconnects itself. I'm wondering what the problem is since the headset does support 2.0 with EDR and so does the fuze. One thing I did noticed though was that when I paired the headset, it did not ask for a passkey at all and just went straight to "save".
I'm wondering if there is anything that I can do to make the headset work with phone if anyone has any idea. I was lurking around and someone mentioned something about CoD (class of device) but I dont think that's the issue.
Thankyou for your time reading this post.
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mmm me thinks that it may not have paired correctly. I don't actually know much about the model you have. I have a Iclip R32 which I have had paired with most of my phones. It always asks for the passkey. I have always, once paired, made a call to my phone while the headset is connected. Not sure if it is related to my device or not but if I do not do this it will do weird things when I listen to music and receive calls. Sorry if this has not been of much help to you.
Bottom line: I would delete the pairing and do it again.

if you're not sure which bt headset it is, it's up on the dell website. Let me snag a link for you real quick. The problem is it only does half the function i want it to which is aggravating.
Here you go:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=313-6220
that's the headset I got. The thing that strikes me as odd is that I couldn't enter a passkey nor is there an option for me to force to provide a passkey like vista. I heard rumors about the bluetooth stack automatically assuming passkeys for "unsafe" devices like headsets and all that. If anything should I consider getting a different bt stack? People were recomending Widdcomm's...

mputtr said:
if you're not sure which bt headset it is, it's up on the dell website. Let me snag a link for you real quick. The problem is it only does half the function i want it to which is aggravating.
Here you go:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=313-6220
that's the headset I got. The thing that strikes me as odd is that I couldn't enter a passkey nor is there an option for me to force to provide a passkey like vista. I heard rumors about the bluetooth stack automatically assuming passkeys for "unsafe" devices like headsets and all that. If anything should I consider getting a different bt stack? People were recomending Widdcomm's...
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Mm I checked them with the link you sent thanks for that.
Maybe my headset is getting old but it always asks for a passkey when I connect it. My Touch Pro did just like my Kaiser and Hermes. Sorry but maybe you will need to check with Dell. They do not mention any thing but I'm assuming that they have a microphone for phone calls....
edit: Doh I just read the 2nd page of reviews and it does have a mic. Sorry should of checked that before.

Well since your touch pro most probably runs wm6.1, i doubt it's because your headset is old. I wonder if there's a way to disable this automatic passkey guessing thing.

Anyone? any ideas on how to disable the automatic pin number guessing feature of wm6.1?

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So what do you guys think?
Would it be a good idea to use a different bt stack or am I stuck with no choice at all?

Need Help Badly!!
hi i'm trying to pair my bluetooth headset (Samsung WEP200) but everytime i put the pin number (that is given by the bluetooth headset) it always said "Your Device did not connect with Samsung WEP200. The connection Failed or the passcode is incorrect".
how to install the hotfix (the hot fix from HTC website) on my HTC Touch Pro? everytime i copy the .exe file into my device, and run it, i always got an error box. Incorrect Device, "Please use the correct Device to Install This Hotfix program!" i don't know how it happen, i download this from HTC support page. i select the phone (HTC Touch Pro) and in the "Software Download" tab it show that there are 3 available download, the Hotfix, the Rom and Application.
i really need help....... pls, someone that have the same proble with their HTC Touch Pro bluetooth connection.....

is there a way to disable the automatic passkey mode that came with the MS bt stack or anything like changing my stack to a different' company's

hmm just want to ask.. have someone tried to pair Philip SHB7100 with HTC Raphael yet?? because i would like to buy this bluetooth, since my samsung WEP200 is not compatible...
thank you

excelex said:
hmm just want to ask.. have someone tried to pair Philip SHB7100 with HTC Raphael yet?? because i would like to buy this bluetooth, since my samsung WEP200 is not compatible...
thank you
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Read here: http://hongkongphooey.wordpress.com/2007/10/23/unboxing-philips-shb7100-bluetooth-stereo-headset/

Bluetooth on HD2 + Volvo built-in Bluetooth

Hi,
I'm having problems connecting my HTC HD2 to my Volvo S80 bluetooth, The phone sync's OK, I can dial calls but I get no audio through the cars speakers; neither does it dim the sound.
I happend to use a HTC TYTN II with the same car, where it all worked flawlessly.
Does anyone have the same problem with his/her Volvo?
Does anyone have a working combination of a HD2 + Volvo?
Any help/direction will be appreciated.

I have the same issue with my Jag.. have you tried to initiate the call FROM the car vs. from the phone?
warnink said:
Hi,
I'm having problems connecting my HTC HD2 to my Volvo S80 bluetooth, The phone sync's OK, I can dial calls but I get no audio through the cars speakers; neither does it dim the sound.
I happend to use a HTC TYTN II with the same car, where it all worked flawlessly.
Does anyone have the same problem with his/her Volvo?
Does anyone have a working combination of a HD2 + Volvo?
Any help/direction will be appreciated.
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pjmurphy77 said:
I have the same issue with my Jag.. have you tried to initiate the call FROM the car vs. from the phone?
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Yeah, I've tried it both from the phone, as well as the keypad of the car. Funny thing is that the phonebook seems to synchronize correctly between phone & car, so I have a working connection.
It's just the problem that I have described earlier in this thread.
Did you manage to solve it?

It is very wonky - I can see the addressbook on my car's display, i can dial and have a convo but it hangs after I hang up the phone. I cannot dial from the phone which is strange. I imagine a software patch could repair
warnink said:
Yeah, I've tried it both from the phone, as well as the keypad of the car. Funny thing is that the phonebook seems to synchronize correctly between phone & car, so I have a working connection.
It's just the problem that I have described earlier in this thread.
Did you manage to solve it?
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Try setting the authenticated connection to OFF
Dunno if it will help, but from
Start-Settings, then <menu> All settings (its the quickmenu bottom right)
Bluetooth -
then you can set properties (nickname and authorized connections)
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Having similair problem with Bluetooth Headset and Cyberon Voice Speed dial software. Won't work unless initiated the call from phone)

WOW!!! You did it! thanks so much... who would have thought I should turn auth connection OFF!?!
lucid said:
Dunno if it will help, but from
Start-Settings, then <menu> All settings (its the quickmenu bottom right)
Bluetooth -
then you can set properties (nickname and authorized connections)
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Having similair problem with Bluetooth Headset and Cyberon Voice Speed dial software. Won't work unless initiated the call from phone)
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Volvo Connection
Hi - I am having exactly the same issue with the connection in my C30, it syncs fine, connects okay just no audio on either the phone or the car
I have tried the fix above which didnt work for me - any ideas?
I have got it working fine on a bluetooth headset so not the phone

My Volvo dealer did it
Everything solved, by installing the latest bluetooth software into my car. It seems that an update is available twice a year, and I have just had my Volvo dealer install the latest into my one year old car.
Everything is now working fine.
(And then I thought that Bluetooth was a certified standard, but hey, I work in business software, so I probably should have known better )
I can highly recommend driving by your Volvo agent.

Volvo Bluetooth HTC HD2
Warnink:
Where are you located in the world? My Volvo dealer (and Volvo Norway) could not find any software update for my car. I have an 2010 V70 and I have the same issues as you had.
Did your dealer give you any details about the software?
André

I was lucky while it lasted
When I drove off from my dealer, he made sure that I had the last version of the bluetooth software. Everything worked smoothly then, and also for a couple of days.
Unfortunately I am back to square one now, since it stopped working again.
On another forum, I received some replies, telling me it has to do with the bluetooth stack, that is being used by the HTC HD2. I am sofar unable to verify this, and neither do I have a solution.
I have sent an email to HTC as well, telling them about this issue, but have so far not received any reply.
Hope that either Volvo, or HTC will pick up on this issue, because the combination of driving a Volvo, and using a HD2 can hardly be matched (but only if they function properly) If you encounter a solution, keep me (us) posted.
(By the way: I live in Holland )

the same...
Hi !
I do have the same problems with my XC70 MY10. My Bluetooth version in the car is 04.22_R. Which version do you have !?
In the past with my Touch HD I used Jetware bluetooth handsfree 1.40 and most of the time it worked. Unfortunately that version is not running on my HD2.
Is there anything planed like this to have for the HD2 ?
Which other solutions would be possible ? How many people are infected and is it only a VOLVO problem ?
Best regards !

Same here. Latest sofware version installed (already two time), now 4.22R. It's unbelievable. A Navigon or Tom Tom appliance, or any BT Handfree stuff of 100 euro's connects and works without any problem, but a 80.000 euro Volvo... I can't figure out why, the phonebook syncs, it dials, but no sound. Nor does it stop radio/cd/tv. Waiting for next upgrade (either BT of Volvo or the whole car?)

Not supported by Volvo yet
Here is a link for the Netherlands, where you can check what phone models are supported by Volvo bluetooth. Currently, the HD2 is not listed.
Dutch:
http://www.volvocars.com/nl/sales-services/sales/Bluetooth/bluetooth/Pages/default.aspx
English:
http://www.volvocars.com/uk/sales-services/sales/volvo-accessories/bluetooth/pages/default.aspx

Solved problem
Hi!
I had some initial problems pairing my HTC hd2 with my S80 from -06.
Now it works fine without any bluetooth updates from Volvo.
The problem I had was that the call was disconnected just as it was connected.
I could make the call but as soon as someone answered, the call was disconnected.
I'm not really sure what did the trick but I tried with the settings in:
Start -> Settings -> Meny -> More -> Bluetooth
Under Advanced there is an option to play system sound on the remote bluetooth device. I have it checked, not sure if that is needed.
So try to change the settings in Start -> Settings -> Meny -> More -> Bluetooth
If I get the time I'll try to write a more detailed guide...
The main thing is that with proper settings it works, without updates.

Douwe Bekius said:
Same here. Latest sofware version installed (already two time), now 4.22R. It's unbelievable. A Navigon or Tom Tom appliance, or any BT Handfree stuff of 100 euro's connects and works without any problem, but a 80.000 euro Volvo... I can't figure out why, the phonebook syncs, it dials, but no sound. Nor does it stop radio/cd/tv. Waiting for next upgrade (either BT of Volvo or the whole car?)
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I had the same problem with no sound and problems muting the radio. But that was solved. See my other post...

Look at this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583570&page=7
Although it does not enable you to sync your phonebook, you can at least call normally; this did the trick for me.
Quote: andy2111
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Success!!!
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I tried the settings posted on the previous pages and for the first time my HD2 pairs with my Range Rover handsfree.
I didn't find the registry values exactly as in the previous post so here's an updated list of what worked for me:
I downloaded Mobile Registry Editor (freeware from here http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/De...or-10636.shtml
Then I made the following registry changes:
1. Modify the HandsFree plug-in: HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\Plugin\HandsFree
i. Change SupportedFeatures to 45 (default is 1135 mine was 1379)
ii. Add value HFBDA binary, set to same value as LastConnectedBda
iii. Add value HFDeviceType DWORD 2
2. Modify the WIDCOMM bluetooth general settings: HKLM\Software\WIDCOMM\BtConfig\General
i. Change bdaddr to (no value) delete the existing key value
ii. Change DisableReopenAudio to 0 (default is 1) I didn't have this registry key so I created it with DWORD value 0
3. Reboot device

warnink said:
Hi,
Does anyone have the same problem with his/her Volvo?
Does anyone have a working combination of a HD2 + Volvo?
Any help/direction will be appreciated.
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I found (on another thread) that just turning off the data connection enables most of the BT and audio-linked functionality... Though mine doesn't seem to update the recent calls list made from the car.
BUT the downside would be losing out on push email or other data services like weather, stocks (who cares!), and things like satnav live services (traffic, etc.) until you re-enable data. I haven't yet tried Tungsten's ideas above - hopefully tomorrow!
NB. which bluetooth version do you have? (In the menu on the sound system) I apparently have the current version and my Volvo dealer said that even an update could either maybe not work/work fine/trash my phone's BT UNLESS Volvo had by then listed my phone as compatible (HD2 currently not listed). Plus I would still be charged £60-70 so I opted not to risk it.
From what I can gather and although bluetooth is a "standard", it maybe to do with using different stacks - HTC apparently doesn't use the Microsoft stacks...

Problem fixed
Everyone...I picked up my HD2 on Thursday, same issue with my 2009 Volvo S80. Connected but no audio picked up or transferred...until today.
Complete the pairing with the vehicle.
Then
Go into the "OTHER SETTINGS" (Located toward the bottom of the Main Settings Section)
Under Other Settings is "CAR KIT"
Make sure to have a check box in both options. "Navi" & "Automatically transfer to Car Kit"
Save.
Your set..works like a charm.

Just curious
porscheman911 said:
Everyone...I picked up my HD2 on Thursday, same issue with my 2009 Volvo S80. Connected but no audio picked up or transferred...until today.
Complete the pairing with the vehicle.
Then
Go into the "OTHER SETTINGS" (Located toward the bottom of the Main Settings Section)
Under Other Settings is "CAR KIT"
Make sure to have a check box in both options. "Navi" & "Automatically transfer to Car Kit"
Save.
Your set..works like a charm.
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Are you also using any data connection at the same time? It seems that when I leave push-mail on, that this does not do the trick for me.

ciao a tutti sono nuovo ho un htc hd2 leo vorrei un aiuto sul bluethooh non riesco a sentire l'audio sul mio auricolare,cosa devo fare?prima avevo un htc hd e funzionava perfettamente aspetto un aiuto grazie