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[SOLVED] once rooted always rooted?

First of all forgive me if this question as been asked a million times but to be honest I'm finding the Dream section a mess.
Now onto my question.... I've rooted my G1 and I'm currently running JF 1.51 with hero skin, now I'm I correct that I will always be rooted as long as I stick to custom roms?
The other thing is when I go into recovery mode I get a message at the top of the screen something like "Unable to find /system/command/recovery.cmd" am I correct that means I'm unable to proform backups? which is no big deal for me.
Finally whats the deal with this new spl, do I really need it to run a hero ported rom? I only ask because in all my years flashing windows phones the spl is something you should flash once and leave alone to avoid errors that can brick your phone.

Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE

alritewhadeva said:
Yes you will always be rooted. Not really sure on the recovery thing...You might want to try to fix that by flashing another recovery image. Yes you need the new spl to run the hero ROM since its HUGE
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Thanks for the fast reply, as for the recovery thing like I said I would never back anything up and restore it anyway (I've always started afresh with every new rom)
Now going back to the spl thing.... Ive already updated my radio to the latest so when I do finally go for a hero rom and do flash my spl is the new spl a custom one which will allow me to reflash back down to a non-hero rom? or do I have to go back to the orginal hardspl first?

The new SPL was released by haykuro and it allows you to have about 30 more mb of space on your system partition. It still allows you to flash non-hero ROMs as well as hero ROMs. Sorry for the slow response >.>

Thanks alritewhadeva everything is clearer now.

Rooted phone

Hi to one and al
I hope i am allowed to post a new thread on this. I live in Ireland but have a
G1 which is from the good uld U.S.A. I did a week of reading on how to root my phone and got some great advice on this forum.
I rooted my phone last night, using the 2 part video on Youtube and i followed
every step to the letter, i think its worked because my phone still does haha,but i dont see any benefits if anything i have less.
I did the rooting of the phone and then put the U.K RC8 on to it i its the
jf 1.42 i think. Anyway, thats ok but i didnt know there was a jf cupcake 1.5 out i got the jf updater and its found the jf 1.51 cupcake UK and a jf RC9 v.1.43 UK and also an update.zip
Now i have not downloaded any of these yet, Question... Do i download and apply the proper 1.5 radio from the android site and apply that then download the 1.5 UK cupcake and apply that.
Any help would be appreciated as i dont want to **** it up now cheers

mazzano4 said:
Hi to one and al
I hope i am allowed to post a new thread on this. I live in Ireland but have a
G1 which is from the good uld U.S.A. I did a week of reading on how to root my phone and got some great advice on this forum.
I rooted my phone last night, using the 2 part video on Youtube and i followed
every step to the letter, i think its worked because my phone still does haha,but i dont see any benefits if anything i have less.
I did the rooting of the phone and then put the U.K RC8 on to it i its the
jf 1.42 i think. Anyway, thats ok but i didnt know there was a jf cupcake 1.5 out i got the jf updater and its found the jf 1.51 cupcake UK and a jf RC9 v.1.43 UK and also an update.zip
Now i have not downloaded any of these yet, Question... Do i download and apply the proper 1.5 radio from the android site and apply that then download the 1.5 UK cupcake and apply that.
Any help would be appreciated as i dont want to **** it up now cheers
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Yes update your radio. Its not a must but highly recommended otherwise you might have some issues. Also I would recommend a different rom cause JF's are to old and boring. I would suggest one of Cyanogens rom's.

thanks for reply, i dont have to downgrade the fone again do i, can you tell me which cyanogen rom i should download and do i need another compatible radio, i am a bit phased about diong this again especially after reading so many bricked fones but i do reaserch and listen so any help would be great

Jf stopped making roms so go with cyan stable 4.04

hey Gridlock hows it going.
ok forgive my ignorance i am looking for this rom and cant find it, also do i have to download a radio for that cyanogen release and apply that first,, also do i wipe the sd card before i start this
hope i havent made things more difficult,
and just one other thing when i did the root of youtube i didnt get an option to "protect my root" as i have read on some other guides.
thanks
edit found a post by nephron will have a read through that, but still need to know about the "protect my root" thing and do i wipe the sdcard?

You don't have to worry about protecting your root, nephron guide is a good way to go, you can pick up any rom and the most up to date in the dev section
I am doing good by the way

mazzano4 said:
thanks for reply, i dont have to downgrade the fone again do i, can you tell me which cyanogen rom i should download and do i need another compatible radio, i am a bit phased about diong this again especially after reading so many bricked fones but i do reaserch and listen so any help would be great
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You won't have to downgrade again. You should update to the newest radio (26I) if your not already. You can do that before or after loading a new rom it doesn't matter. You can look in the dev section for cyanogen he has a stable and experimental build.

thankyou kindly gents will follow that advice

If you haven't already you need to install Cyan's recovery 1.4
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3915123
CyanogenMod Stable
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537204
Radio
http://sapphire-port-dream.googlecode.com/files/ota-radio-2_22_19_26I.zip

Damn, I just saw a pig fly, there is three out of 5 of us smartasses and we are being helpfull and not going off topic, it's gonna be a scary day
Wait, didn't I just go off topic with this post
Whoops......sorry

/sigh
and we was doing so good.

sorry gents just one more thing i am a little confused
i have the new rom new radio new spl and new recovery(cyanogenrecovery)
have renamed the the rom to update.zip
do i put the new cyanogen recovery on b4 i do the new flash or leave my old jf one one
sorry guys and thanks

mazzano4 said:
sorry gents just one more thing i am a little confused
i have the new rom new radio new spl and new recovery(cyanogenrecovery)
have renamed the the rom to update.zip
do i put the new cyanogen recovery on b4 i do the new flash or leave my old jf one one
sorry guys and thanks
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Doesn't matter, flash the ROM or recovery in whatever order you want. ROMs don't require a specific, recovery. Just use the one you want to use, 1.4 has the most features.
gridlock32404 said:
Damn, I just saw a pig fly, there is three out of 5 of us smartasses and we are being helpfull and not going off topic, it's gonna be a scary day
Wait, didn't I just go off topic with this post
Whoops......sorry
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Haha, shocking isn't it?

thanks for that

right i am ok with that, now i know to flash the radio first do i also have to flash this spl i downloaded its called danger spl (dont like the fookin sound of that!!) this nephron guide is very confusing
sorry lads but this is not happening i put the rom onto sd card home and power and its just coming up with a load of mad writing and like a fingerprint gives me the options but when i choose to install it say it cant install as it cant find the rom on sd card, says directory doesnt exist
i am getting to the stage of unrooting here as i dont want to fcuk my fone up
anyone help, and that nephron guide is just too confusing

As long as you don't plan on flashing any hero roms then you don't need dangerSPL. I don't recommend doing the hero roms or dangerSPL until you have a very good understanding of the cupcake/donut roms first.

sorry i have it, i had the file extensions hidden on my new laptop so the re naming was incorrect, sorted now thanks

root help!

i know i think i might be at the wrong forum but i thought i might get help over here....i have unlock the boot loader fine, then i installed the super boot and flash the recovery image amran 1.6.2 fine, i backup my nan and now i like to flash it with cyanogen rom 5.0.4.1 do i need to update the radio or put the add on for this before i do continue...please help!!!! thanks
i have radio:4.03.00.21.2
do i?? or just flash it directly and how about addon???

xghostyxjokerx said:
i know i think i might be at the wrong forum but i thought i might get help over here....i have unlock the boot loader fine, then i installed the super boot and flash the recovery image amran 1.6.2 fine, i backup my nan and now i like to flash it with cyanogen rom 5.0.4.1 do i need to update the radio or put the add on for this before i do continue...please help!!!! thanks
i have radio:4.03.00.21.2
do i?? or just flash it directly and how about addon???
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you do not need a new radio. I am still using stock radio! and maybe try this rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639637 its a supermodified, sexy, feature-rich cyanogen rom

theres alot of deferent ones which is suggested for the most out of it???

if i decide to flash the desire rom do i need to update the radio then??? isnt it always is good to keep up with the radio??? if so how do i do the update i have it ere38 i beleive???

xghostyxjokerx said:
if i decide to flash the desire rom do i need to update the radio then??? isnt it always is good to keep up with the radio??? if so how do i do the update i have it ere38 i beleive???
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Hi xghost. You dont have to update radio to flash desire roms.
You can update it if you want to but remember, flashing the radio is the "only" way to brick your phone. Not a high chance but higher then most other things you can do.
-Roger

okay thanks...so since it is my first time using the root for nexus one...im going to flash it with 5.0.4.1 do i flash it then flash the ere38 add on that is on the page or???

How long does it take to flash radio?

It's been sending for about 10 minutes so far :O
I'm a little worried. Thanks,

It could take awhile.... Which radio did you flash? are you still in the screen where the android is out of the box? Be patient bro, no matter what dont take out the battery, or you will brick your device.
gstar_raw said:
It's been sending for about 10 minutes so far :O
I'm a little worried. Thanks,
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rjhay22 said:
It could take awhile.... Which radio did you flash? are you still in the screen where the android is out of the box? Be patient bro, no matter what dont take out the battery, or you will brick your device.
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Hey rjhay22, thanks for the fast reply.
I flashed back to 4.04 from 4.06 as I was having some serious signal problems and random reboots ever since I updated to Froyo.
It just started writing to radio then the following error
writing 'radio' ... FAILED (remote: image update error) finished.
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Ugh can't be too good...
I can still get into recovery, and I just flashed back to the stock ROM without any problems so I don't think I bricked it. Any idea as to why the radio won't flash? Checked the md5 and it was alright. Possibly a prob with the USB cable/laptops end?

Yah, must be a bad download, I suggest downloading the file again and try. which ROM are you on and which radio are you trying to flash? is it the IMG file? or the update.zip file?
If youre trying to flash 4.0.2 (stock) / 4.0.3 / 4.0.4 versions heres a link for an update.zip version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
these radios are Eclair ROM radios, if you're using FroYo then you should use, 4.0.6. otherwise it'll give you camera FC.
gstar_raw said:
Hey rjhay22, thanks for the fast reply.
I flashed back to 4.04 from 4.06 as I was having some serious signal problems and random reboots ever since I updated to Froyo.
It just started writing to radio then the following error
Ugh can't be too good...
I can still get into recovery, and I just flashed back to the stock ROM without any problems so I don't think I bricked it. Any idea as to why the radio won't flash? Checked the md5 and it was alright. Possibly a prob with the USB cable/laptops end?
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rjhay22 said:
Yah, must be a bad download, I suggest downloading the file again and try. which ROM are you on and which radio are you trying to flash? is it the IMG file? or the update.zip file?
If youre trying to flash 4.0.2 (stock) / 4.0.3 / 4.0.4 versions heres a link for an update.zip version.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
these radios are Eclair ROM radios, if you're using FroYo then you should use, 4.0.6. otherwise it'll give you camera FC.
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Currently just reverted back to Cyanogen 5.0.6 and trying to get back to 4.0.4. Would the best route be to go into recovery and just flash the zip to do this? I was a little scared of doing it before considering my phone was crashing but I'm pretty sure it's stable in recovery.
(I was trying to flash via cmd with the img file in my tools folder before).

Yes, I find it to be easier and less scary to go through the update.zip file... And the link I gave you, I've been using those files to go back and forth on radio. Good luck brother.
gstar_raw said:
Currently just reverted back to Cyanogen 5.0.6 and trying to get back to 4.0.4. Would the best route be to go into recovery and just flash the zip to do this? I was a little scared of doing it before considering my phone was crashing but I'm pretty sure it's stable in recovery.
(I was trying to flash via cmd with the img file in my tools folder before).
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rjhay22 said:
Yes, I find it to be easier and less scary to go through the update.zip file... And the link I gave you, I've been using those files to go back and forth on radio. Good luck brother.
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Right on, everything went smooth and back on the good ol radio. Thanks!

Anytime brother.
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Right on, everything went smooth and back on the good ol radio. Thanks!
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so do you guy sreally think that the froyo radio is faulty somehow, particularly for the ATT version of the N1? i'm thinking of going to froyo, but not sure about the new radio (i'm happy with current radio). but then i hear about video problems without new radio.
is it that easy to bounce back and forth?

Hello again lol. Froyo radio works a lot better than the previous ones for me at least. There isn't anything wrong with it, now this might not be true on yours since you are from another carrier . But you can always switch back to the old one, whatever works best for you.
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so do you guy sreally think that the froyo radio is faulty somehow, particularly for the ATT version of the N1? i'm thinking of going to froyo, but not sure about the new radio (i'm happy with current radio). but then i hear about video problems without new radio.
is it that easy to bounce back and forth?
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Ok cool, I just gotta figure how how to tell what radio I'm currently using. I'm sure its the previous one that we've been using.

which will be the exact steps to revert my att band N1 to eclair again?
Should i first flash 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2 radio and then cyanogen's mod? or firts cyanogen's mod and then the 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2 radio?
im willing to to this, because my gps is not accurate with froyos radio...

Works either way
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which will be the exact steps to revert my att band N1 to eclair again?
Should i first flash 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2 radio and then cyanogen's mod? or firts cyanogen's mod and then the 32.26.00.24U_4.04.00.03_2 radio?
im willing to to this, because my gps is not accurate with froyos radio...
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rjhay22 said:
Works either way
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rjhay22, do you think that the oficial release of froyo will have a better radio for all att band N1's? couse mine is kinda sucky right now... the gps is slow and inaccurate...
What yave you heard, will froyo have 850 and 900 separeted radios?

As of now, google has been quiet about what's going to be in the official release. We can only hope that if they include a different radio in that release, that it would work perfectly on both ATT and T-Mobile devices.
donchele said:
rjhay22, do you think that the oficial release of froyo will have a better radio for all att band N1's? couse mine is kinda sucky right now... the gps is slow and inaccurate...
What yave you heard, will froyo have 850 and 900 separeted radios?
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rjhay22 said:
As of now, google has been quiet about what's going to be in the official release. We can only hope that if they include a different radio in that release, that it would work perfectly on both ATT and T-Mobile devices.
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whoa! thnx!
dude sorry about bugging this much but, which are those "camera issues" that the people tak about when going back to an old radio with froyo? are there another issues!

RogerPodacter said:
Ok cool, I just gotta figure how how to tell what radio I'm currently using. I'm sure its the previous one that we've been using.
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You can tell which radio you are using by going into the bootloader; a few lines from the top I believe.

Also in the main settings menu it shows baseband version and it looks like 4. 00. 04 or something like that. Isn't that the radio info?

How long should it take to flash Radio_12.28e.60.140f_26.04.02.17_M2_SF over stock 26.03.02.26_M??? It's been going a good while now and I'm getting freaked out!!

Judging by the radio model, you posted in the wrong forum.

[Q] Which rom- thats the question

Hello everyone.
I am new to the world of flashing android, I used to flash my previous htc windows phones all the time. I'm currently running IceRom, something one of my friends found off here a long while back.
Can anyone recommend a good stable rom that looks nice ? I have been looking over all the newer ones but I think I want something more established.

What tickles your fancy?
Vanilla Android or Sense Based?
Built in Overclock Kernels or Flashing one of the undervolted/OC goodies that are in plentiful abundance?
That will help start to narrow it down

uhhhh..... well i never know what I'm using so it doesnt really matter. The icerom im using now has a lot of glitches its android 2.2 (think?) the video camera doesnt work on it and i cant play music from myxer (it doesnt support .dm filetype) so it really drives me nuts...
honestly i dont know the difference between vanilla and sense, so anything goes.

Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6

H4k3r4r34l said:
Cyanogenmod 6:HERE
icerom is 2.1 aosp ithink you wont go wrong wit cm6
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I agree... CM6 is the best, and darch has his rc1 out now, so its extremely stable
Sent from my HTC Hero running froyo: take that, Sprint!

If you want to try a good stock rom that comes with apps 2sd go with nfinitefx45's stock .6 odex rom its awesome and gives you the beautiful htc sense!

ok C-6 it is... so another n00b question (Sorry guys, the hero is the first android phone ive had!)
on the c-6 posting it says to update radio if you need to. I dont even know what version I am running let alone how to flash a radio. My last friend who knew how to flash them told me not to flash my radio cuz its a good way to brick my phone.
And seeing as how this would be my first time flashing ANDROID im not sure i should flash a radio without supervision lol

Be careful if you start flashing your radio. If you flash one from a gms hero you can brick your phone.
If you go to "settings>about phone>software info>baseband version" that should be your radio I believe.

ok then im using
baseband version:
1.04.01.09.21
sound right?

i downloaded the C6 rom- but does anyone know a good android syncing software i can use to transfer the rom to my phone? again im not trying to annoy anyone. Once Ive learned the process once I will be able to do it again and again. With windows it was easy there was a program that did everything for you beside the hard reset.
btw is a wipe and a hard reset the same thing or no

Yeah sounds right. Here's where I got my updated radio from - http://geekfor.me/category/hero/radios/

ok awesome looks good. Is it required to flash a radio or no? like will it affect the rom's awesomeness

those radios are all for android 2.1 but it says c6 is android 2.2

Lol, I don't think its required to flash a new radio. I think you find a radio that gives you good signal strength and then you stick with it. I could be completely talking outta my ass though...

alright guys who've helped- thankyou!!
i figured out how to sync my phone using sugarsync so i can update my radio and rom. now im just going to follow flashing directions from c6 thread,
will post back with an update when its done...

ok this is rediculous.... this is the most time consuming thing ive ever tried to do with my phone. I couldnt transfer the c6 zip from sugarsync to my phone so i had to email it to myself...and took forever for my phone to download it. NOW the file is stuck in my download folder and for some reason i cannot move it or copy/paste it to the root folder.
btw, my root folder is NOT in the sd folder.
anyone know how im supposed to get the new rom into my root!????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!

download the ROM
copy the .zip file over to your phones SD card in the root directory
Unplug your phone and turn it off
Hold power and home until you boot into Recovery
Select the option to flash zip
find your ROM and press the trackball and when its done reboot
that should work lol.

omgomg!!! i figured it out lol i noticed my old rom zip was in the sd directory so i "copied" c6 to that same spot and was able to boot from that. Restarted my phone, and its currently booting up with cyanogen 6!!
I have successfully flashed my first android phone....

now that thats done...anyone know where i can find the MARKET on cyanogen??

in his thread theres a link for something called "google sh*ts" or something.
Its all the google apps, like gmail and youtube and stuff
you have to download that and flash it and then restart the phone and theyll all show up.
Thats the rom i was using n_n