WTF? I thought the N1 was unlocked? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey yall, I just got to israel and I had purchased an N1 banking on the fact that it was carrier unlocked... I just popped in the new israeli SIM card and every 5 seconds an error message pops up saying com.android.phone has stopped, this doesn't happen in airplane mode so I don't know what to do. Back in the states I had popped in an ATT sim and it worked fine.

it is unlocked but only to certain carriers and certain radio frequencies. american ATT and Tmobile I know work, cant tell you much about Israel though. What carrier are you trying to get it to work on and maybe we can see if the radios match up.

Yup, it is unlocked. There is something else going on wrong there. Try reseating the SIM card? Maybe you got a bad SIM card?

It's celcomm israel, could it be a CM 6 error?

Durkbeef said:
It's celcomm israel, could it be a CM 6 error?
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hmm, the Nexus should definitly be able to pick up those 2G bands atleast. Call the cell carrier and see if it is on their side, i heard somewhere that some carriers block other cells unless you give them the IMEI to unlock service, or something like that.

Well, I just popped in my bro's Orange SIM and it works fine... But mine is cellcom so that may be the issue.. it is also a USIM card not regullar sim, could that be it?

it's definitely not a frequency thing, GSM is 900/1800 which the N1 supports and UMTS is 850/2100 which your phone supports
in terms of why the sim card won't work, try going to a cellcom store, one time i got a bad sim from them so who knows

Well, I found the right APN settings, but when I type them in and hit save it doesn't add itself to the list, I typed them in without the SIM card in to avoid the force closes, but when I put the sim back in, I still have the force close issues

Durkbeef said:
Well, I just popped in my bro's Orange SIM and it works fine... But mine is cellcom so that may be the issue.. it is also a USIM card not regullar sim, could that be it?
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isnt a USIM completely different technology? i thought that is what CDMA carriers in the states use, or the nextel technology uses. i dont think that is a gsm network...

RogerPodacter said:
isnt a USIM completely different technology? i thought that is what CDMA carriers in the states use, or the nextel technology uses. i dont think that is a gsm network...
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no that's CSIM, USIM is just a SIM for UMTS (3G) networks

Force closes aren't connected to anything being locked, they're OS error.
USIM or no USIM doesn't matter. Nexus works 100%, with both Cellcom and Orange. In fact I've installed FRF91 on one with Cellcom SIM, and it works fine.
Reinstall stock or close-to-stock FRF91 and check again, if it fails - exchange the SIM.
You won't see the APNs in the list unless you have the SIM inserted, and if you've added APNs without SIM - they're most probably worthless (unless you've entered MCC and MNC, which are taken from the registered network when you have the SIM installed). APNs show in the list only when their MCC and MNC match those of the carrier. When you use MarketEnabler or MarketAccess, for example, the APNs disappear from the list until you revert back to normal.

RogerPodacter said:
isnt a USIM completely different technology? i thought that is what CDMA carriers in the states use, or the nextel technology uses. i dont think that is a gsm network...
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Okay before I go any farther, some definitions are in order.
UICC = Universal Integrated Circuit Card
SIM = Subscriber Identity Module
USIM = Universal Subscriber Identity Module
RUIM = Removable User Identity Module
CSIM = CDMA Subscriber Identify Module
The UICC is the physical strata or card where the DATA is stored. SIM, USIM, R-UIM and CSIM are applications or modules flashed onto the card.
The SIM application (which is used in GSM networks) contains information about the users account and other relevant information that the handset will use to communicate with the mobile network.
The USIM application (which is an update to the SIM application and is used with UMTS [3G] networks) again, stores user account DATA and other relevant info required by the handset to operate on a mobile network.
The R-UIM was originally developed as an add-on to the SIM application to allow CDMA networks users to have the same functionality as a GSM user where by the user could change his/her handsets ad hoc. With the added benefit that a CDMA user could remove their R-UIM and insert it into an unlocked GSM phone and utilize like they would their own phone, thus allowing for seamless billing across foreign (roaming) networks.
The CSIM is an update to the R-UIM where by the USIM application is added to UICC to allow for seamless roaming across different types of mobile networks.
Dan

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Using on Other Carriers(GSM)

I am a n00b in the subject of unlocking phones to use on other networks etc.
Is there a possibility when the SPL is unlocked that we could use this on any GSM network since it is a 'world' capable phone with the GSM radio and a SIM card?
I have used a lot of WINMO phone son VZW and I flash and unlock quite often. Just had no idea how this process worked. sorry if this is a duplicate of any kind
thank you
You can call Verizon and ask them for the unlock code to your phone. The number is 1-800-711-8300, option 2 I believe. Either way you'll end up talking to a human who can do that for you. Then you'll enter the code (code A) in All Settings > Personal > Security. According to others, this unlock on the SIM will remain, even after flashing with a custom ROM.
no software to unlock the sim card, i don't want to call vz
I can buy unlock code for Imagio.
Why dont you want to call verizon? They are perfectly happy to unlock the sim for you as long as you dont have any problems with your account like delinquent payments. I called and had both of my phones unlocked in minutes and tested my ATT sim card, worked great on the aTT network
GSM 3G on america?
devlspawn said:
Tested my ATT sim card, worked great on the aTT network
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Did you see if you had E or 3G or H?
I've looked at the specs but haven't found the GSM 3G bands that it has.
Just this:
Digital Dual (CDMA,PCS) /1X, EVDO /Rev.A <---- perfectly clear
GSM Quad Band (GSM/GPRS/EDGE) <---- perfectly clear
WCDMA / HSDPA / HSUPA <---- not clear if it has 850mhz here
I guess it doesn't have 3G in 850mhz but I still have hopes.
Regards!
I only get "E" - my SIM is 3G capable, but the corporate plan is text-only. In other words, I can't say for certain if it will get 3G speeds. HSDPA is available here in the US, so it should be possible for an Imagio to have 3G in the States.
I called yesterday, told them I would be going overseas, they gave me the unlock code. Simple as pie. I can use my neighbor's AT&T sim card without any issues minus stuff that is Verizon specific.
The SIM unlock was easy and successful. Just call Verizon at the above number and its a done deal in 30 seconds. Will try my wife's SIM in it later.....woohoo....
because i dont have vz wireless phone number, but i need to use the t-moible or at&t, i call them, but they need me vz wireless phone number... i dont have, they not unlock for me
as i was told u are able to get it unlocked verizon will do it if ur account is 3months old and in good standing... also as far as using it on gsm not sure as of yet but will say tmobile basic signal i E in an area where out of ur basic ntwork jumpin off of another tower it will put u on H or even G but there is no 3G
wingtytn said:
as i was told u are able to get it unlocked verizon will do it if ur account is 3months old and in good standing... also as far as using it on gsm not sure as of yet but will say tmobile basic signal i E in an area where out of ur basic ntwork jumpin off of another tower it will put u on H or even G but there is no 3G
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H is HSDPA, which is 3.5G (faster than 3G... 7.2mbps compared to 1.5 mbps or something like that)
Edge is like 0.3 mbps and GPRS like 0.1
not really sure, but you get the idea.
Here in Mexico we have HSDPA but never get above 2mbps, at nights we do peak at 3mbps but avarage is still at much 2mbps.
Did I do something wrong?
I told them I was going over seas, I gave them my sim number and they said I was all set to go over there. Does this mean my phone is unlocked, I didn't have to put in any numbers. I will hate myself if I said the wrong thing. And if I did it right then how do I switch between sim cards and cdma?
For you phone to be unlocked they would have to give you a number to enter.
To switch between sim and cdma, go to settings -> phone -> network and change it from global mode to GSM
Razorfold said:
For you phone to be unlocked they would have to give you a number to enter.
To switch between sim and cdma, go to settings -> phone -> network and change it from global mode to GSM
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Not true, works fine with t mobile and at&t, didn't enter any numbers did it all from their, weird, but whatever.
I think a few things from the last three posts need clarification:
1. When you call VZW Global Support, they should have given a security code to unlock the SIM. It is a string of numbers. It is not a phone number.
2. Once the SIM is unlocked, if a SIM is present in the phone, there is no guarantee that switching back from GSM/UMTS to Global will switch the phone back to CDMA. There have been times where I've done that, and the phone has stayed on AT&T (my employer uses AT&T). I think a better method is to use either CDMA or GSM/UMTS, and to avoid the Global setting completely.
Kebero said:
I think a few things from the last three posts need clarification:
1. When you call VZW Global Support, they should have given a security code to unlock the SIM. It is a string of numbers. It is not a phone number.
2. Once the SIM is unlocked, if a SIM is present in the phone, there is no guarantee that switching back from GSM/UMTS to Global will switch the phone back to CDMA. There have been times where I've done that, and the phone has stayed on AT&T (my employer uses AT&T). I think a better method is to use either CDMA or GSM/UMTS, and to avoid the Global setting completely.
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On item number 1 I would agree with you ignore my experience because even my friend who unlocks all kinds of phones for metro says it is a weird case. I have never received any unlcock cod yet it says "sim security unlocked" probably will be screwed up if I ever want to flash or reset it but whatever.
On number 2 I can't agree with you because I bought an at&t go card just for sh**ts and giggles and I have no problems, infact I can switch between the two while the phone is on, done many tests. But if anyone else experiences this issue I would like to know.
I have never heard an unlock like that. But could be... like an 'on air update'... Most times is a code or the frown upon methods (connect it to a PC or a box).
If any one wants to know, no it does not have GSM 3G for 850mhz band, not 3G with ATT and others in the world that uses that band. Tested it myself.
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I have never heard an unlock like that. But could be... like an 'on air update'... Most times is a code or the frown upon methods (connect it to a PC or a box).
If any one wants to know, no it does not have GSM 3G for 850mhz band, not 3G with ATT and others in the world that uses that band. Tested it myself.
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Even if you run at&t 3g it is much slower than verizon's. Either that or safari renders slower than s**t on brother's Icrap 3g. T mobile's is faster if you can find their 3g coverage, good luck.
PS I am still looking for internet connection settings for tmobile as I sold an unlocked imagio to my buddy and he can't get the data connection working.
does anyone ever solve de 3G problem with the 850 MHZ band... I live in Venezuela use movistar i ve the imagio sim unlocked can´t get 3G due to band restriction

[Q] {Q) Sim Problems

I was one of the lucky ATT users to get an unlock code from ATT. The phone works perfectly with a US Tmo sim card. However, the problem began when i started putting in other sim cards. When i put in a Cellcom (u)sim card (Israel)i got a message "com.android.phone has stopped". I was unable to do anything because the error kept popping up. So i switched to an Orange (again Israel) (u)Sim. THe phone turned on without any errors but its not finding any networks. I try to go to the Network settings but the "Default Setup" option is not available.
Can anyone help me with this issue? I am going overseas on Monday and need to use one of these Sims.
(BTW- I am currently in the US but im assuming that wouldnt be an issue in trying to setup a sim card)
Thank you
I'm pretty sure if you put an Israel sim card in in the united states that it will not find the networks because Israel use a different frequency than the united states .
The type of sim card should have nothing to do with the frequency. That is determined by the type of phone you are using.
Rad_Fishy said:
The type of sim card should have nothing to do with the frequency. That is determined by the type of phone you are using.
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Sorry, no. The frequency is determined by what the cell tower for that carrier is running. For instance United states GSM is 850/1900. Israel is GSM 900/1800.
I'm using orange which is 850 also. Anyways why would I still be locked out the settings for changing the network info?
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[Q] VZW DE: does boot unlocked imply SIM unlocked ??

I've got a an unlocked rooted VZW DE. I'm going to Europe. Is the phone SIM unlocked ?? Can I just insert a European sim card ?
IOW, does an unlocked bootloader also unlock the sim card ? Or do I have to spend an hour talking to Verizon?
Thanks,
sean
After talking with VZW, they tell me the phone comes SIM inlocked! Interesting if true. I'll find out next week.
sean
Any Verizon LTE phone should automatically be sim unlocked without the bootloader being unlocked due to Block C agreements requiring Verizon to allow any compatible phone to use the network. Since LTE is basically the evolution of GSM, most (I won't say all, because there may be an exception) LTE devices have GSM capabilities. Verizon can't legally sim lock the LTE radios, so they have just stopped sim locking global phones.
tl;dr Yes, it is by default sim unlicked. Just throw in the sim and update apn settings if necessary (they may be preprogrammed). You probably won't have LTE, but HSPA (and, I assume, HSPA+) should work fine.
Edit: I just reread and realized that you had updated the post with what I just said... You can ignore this.
No. I appreciate the background. And really pleased it confirmed what Verizon said.
Is there a list someplace of the APN s for French providers? I can just imagine trying to find it out from the kiosk manager using my French!
Sean
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I think they may have that information on the provider's website. You may want/need to plan ahead to determine what carriers are there (which you probably know already) and check out their sites, or you can probably Google '[Carrier Name] apn settings' and find it that way. I've never been in a situation to change the apn settings, but I think once you insert the new sim, the setting is available under Settings > Wireless and Networks > More... > Mobile Network Settings > Access Point Names.

Can't connect to Cellular Provider

Needing some help. Purchased an "unlocked" Nexus 6 from eBay. I had an error that said phone iccid compare with sim iccid error. I setup the correct APN and still got no service. I restarted the phone and that little Android notification is now gone but I still have no service.
When I go to Cellular Networks I can no longer have an option to search for cellular providers nor input an APN just Preferred Network Type and System Select.
Can anyone help!?
metaphz said:
Needing some help. Purchased an "unlocked" Nexus 6 from eBay. I had an error that said phone iccid compare with sim iccid error. I setup the correct APN and still got no service. I restarted the phone and that little Android notification is now gone but I still have no service.
When I go to Cellular Networks I can no longer have an option to search for cellular providers nor input an APN just Preferred Network Type and System Select.
Can anyone help!?
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What carrier? Have you contacted them to activate your phone?
Evolution_Freak said:
What carrier? Have you contacted them to activate your phone?
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I am with a tiny local GSM carrier Union Wireless in Wyoming. I have generally just swapped SIM cards in and out of other phones before. I have never had to call and activate a phone before. I am coming from an unlocked HTC One M8.
@metaphz you may have to contact them. Unless someone else can offer a suggestion, I'm at a loss. I don't think the data dialer reset code will work on non Sprint phones or else I might suggest that.
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@metaphz you may have to contact them. Unless someone else can offer a suggestion, I'm at a loss. I don't think the data dialer reset code will work on non Sprint phones or else I might suggest that.
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I'm at a loss here too. I put in another GSM SIM card from Viaero Wireless in Nebraska and it worked for roaming. When I put in my Union SIM it takes away my APN options and acts like it is a CDMA SIM card.
metaphz said:
I'm at a loss here too. I put in another GSM SIM card from Viaero Wireless in Nebraska and it worked for roaming. When I put in my Union SIM it takes away my APN options and acts like it is a CDMA SIM card.
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In settings>more>cellular networks, have you set the preferred network to global?

Flash Sprint note 8 to work on Verizon

I have a sprint note 8 and ive tried to follow the guides to flash unlocked firmware and keep getting sha256 error. I put my Verizon SIM card in and it works but it is always roaming and Verizon said I don't have a phone active on my account. I don't know if there is a way to fix it and I'm super frustrated trying to flash unlocked firmware trying to fix it any help would be appreciated.
If the phone has a clean IMEI it will work on T-Mobile, Metro PCS, AT&T, Verizon Prepaid (PagePlus) or any other GSM carrier in the US and worldwide, Phone will work on Roaming State , Make sure you add your Carrier APN for the Data settings.
Sounds like you are stuck in roaming state nothing you can do about it.. I bought the unlocked model cause I figure it's best to bout be carrier locked
What do you mean by roaming state?
Surely roaming state is when user roams onto a different network other than their own. Example, T Mobile customer travels to Spain and roams onto Mobistar Spanish cell network using his or her existing T Mobile sim card regardless of what the device is.
Perhaps that's how it works between the two USA cdma carriers? - the way you mentioned it.
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Limeybastard said:
What do you mean by roaming state?
Surely roaming state is when user roams onto a different network other than their own. Example, T Mobile customer travels to Spain and roams onto Mobistar Spanish cell network using his or her existing T Mobile sim card regardless of what the device is.
Perhaps that's how it works between the two USA cdma carriers? - the way you mentioned it.
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So fp r short you are using sprints towers on Verizon's network is what I believe read below
roaming is a term used to describe the ability of phones to connect to the network of a different carrier, abroad or at home in order to offer users the same features they use while on their “home” network – making and receiving calls and text messages and surfing the web. Roaming is possible thanks to the international agreements carriers have with other carriers, in order to offer their wireless services in other regions of a country or of the world.

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