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2 issues with Tilt keypad

I bought an ATT tilt quite a while ago. It is out of warranty now, and wouldn't you know it, something went wrong.
I'm currently using Dutty's Diamond ROM (with the keyboard fix installed), but the same happened before with the official ROM. While I text some keys don't work. I'll be typing away, just to look at the screen and see that I am missing a bunch of letters, rendering the message unreadable. I then have to go back and fill in all the blanks, and even then sometimes it takes several tries to get it to go. The same happens with the backspace key; sometimes it just doesn't work, other times it does (oddly enough, when it doesn't work normally, it usually lets me hit "function" and use it as the delete key).
My other concern is that there is a ton of lag while typing. It takes a while for letters to show up. Is that normal (for the Tilt, at least. I'm still wishing I had bought a BlackBerry)?

Yeah, I had similar troubles. I just upgraded my SPL and hopefully will be testing it further testing.
what SPL are you running?

I'm not entirely sure, it was a while ago that I flashed the ROM. How do I find out what it is? I tried Device Information, but it wasn't there.

you have to put it in Bootloader mode.
hold power and camera button while resetting with the stylus, then you'll come to the tricolor screen which will give you the SPL info.

KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8

I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.

I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?

crushbup said:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
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You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
mech_supernova said:
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
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What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?

crushbup said:
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
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cnn.cn has them for cheap AFAIK!

Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.

whistler4ever said:
You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
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I got the same SPL he has, I did a hard reset afterwards then downgraded back to 1.0 because I saw no improvement.

I thought RomeOS worked best with 3.29.

crushbup said:
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
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http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p4550-keyboard-flex-p-1433.html
found this in another thread!

Success! If the SPL doesn't work and I can't convince AT&T to do it, I'll order one and put it in. How do you install it?
EDIT: I just installed skyfire, and noticed that while I was putting in my email and password it was smooth and nothing was skipped. I'm almost 100% certain this is a problem with WinMo itself

I have been having the same problem as you are describing, but I have noticed that it is with heavy use keys like T, H, E, R, S and for some reason V.
I was getting the feeling that it was a hardware problem rather than a software problem because, especially with the V, I have to apply a bit of pressure to get the button to work.
Unfortunately for me I bought mine off Ebay so the warranty is already void.
Incidentally mine started happening when I had the original network providers (T-Mobile) rom on it. I have since installed an original HTC rom and it hasnt made the slightest bit of difference.
So, how easy is it to open up the back of the Tytn II and replace the keyboard unit then?

Oh my god! Thank you for posting this. I swear I have always felt like posting this but always got too lazy. I thought it was only me that had this problem. It is so annoying typing away, and then having to spend another minute to retype the letters that didn't get inputed the first time. It is so frustrating and I thought it was my fault or something, or ROM, I believe its hardware related, but I am not going to spend another dime on this POS. I'm just not so patiently awaiting t-mobile to release their android device, and I will jump ship and never look back! Thanks for the post again, it has given me piece of mind.....ironically

I'm kind of wanting T-Mobile's Android phone, but seeing as how it's made by HTC, I'll wait for the first couple of user-reviews to come out. I bought the Tilt based on website reviews, but man, I was really misled. They said the camera was great, I can only get blurry unrecognizable images. They made no mention of the fact that when you switch to landscape it takes 3 seconds for all the graphics to appear.
I'm disappointed, and I think my next phone will be a plain vanilla flip phone.
Anywho, I'm updating the SPL now, I'll post if it makes any change.

Okay, I now have HardSPL 3.56 and there does not appear to be much of a change. There was some short lag at the beginning of the text string, but afterwards it caught up. I missed no letters this time. I cannot say how much of this was the placebo effect (i.e. it just felt faster), but perhaps if everyone with the issue tries we can have a reasonable answer.
ETA: I added a poll, so if you try this, fill in the poll!

disable word suggestion under Input setting.
i don't miss any characters with it disabled.

It was already disabled for me. I know I didn't change it, I think the ROM came that way.

Can't Tap Screen

I've searched and could not find an answer. So I'll just start a new thread.
No matter what radio I use, no matter what ROM I flash, I cannot get my screen to respond to taps.
It was responding to manual buttons but no touch. I flashed to a new ROM hoping that would fix it, but now I can't even past the calibration screen...
This all just happened suddenly too. I have been using an iphone for the past couple of months so I have not been too concerned. However I wanted to use my kaisar as a modem at an offsite sales event but it's still the same....
Probly been asked a few times, but I took the plunge away....
Flame or answer away....

Just flash ur shipped ROM & see if it can back to normal again. If not, just return for warranty or repair.

have you updated your HardSPL?
if you have spl1.0 with the wm6.1 installed, these problems are common.

hang.tuah said:
Just flash ur shipped ROM & see if it can back to normal again. If not, just return for warranty or repair.
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That may work. But I'd rather not downgrade to 6.0 if that is not the problem. Plus I have no valid warranty. ATT Tilt is from the United States and I live in Canada...
ccaparli said:
have you updated your HardSPL?
if you have spl1.0 with the wm6.1 installed, these problems are common.
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I have tried 2-3 Hard SPL's.
I suspect that it has something to do with the Hyperdragon 3 Diamond ROM. All my problems started when I flashed that paticular ROM.
I will try downgrading to 6.0 and see if that does the trick. I somehow doubt it though. I think that this may need another, trickier remedy, ie: unbricking a bricked PPC.
I was sort hoping that this was a more common problem and advice would be more readily available...

So I downgraded to the original ROM, but still the same problem. Perhaps if I also downgrade the SPL. Does anyone have this file?
Btw, though I am not a developer or anything I have been flashing ROM's for awhile.
This problem just came out of nowhere...

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This should help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Also, make sure you run JumpSPL/SSPL-KAIS in order to successfully change the SPL.

KMFM$ said:
This should help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679
Also, make sure you run JumpSPL/SSPL-KAIS in order to successfully change the SPL.
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Ya, I forgot about that thread. I haven't used that since I upgraded my spl to Hard3.28. I can understand why I would get problems with the RESTORED STOCK ROM that I flashed my device wouldn't work with the latest Hard SPL, but why would this occur with a ROM it was supposed to work with.
This wasn't something that happened after I flashed, it just happened out of nowhere... They key to fixing this understanding WHY. it may or may not be the SPL...

last bump...

jzalapski said:
last bump...
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After you flash a rom or hard reset, are you able to get past the screen calibration?

Look here It will not fix the problem, but at least it will let you to bypass the "aligment screen"

liquidfork said:
After you flash a rom or hard reset, are you able to get past the screen calibration?
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No. I figured the problem had something to do with the SW, so I just flashed figuring that would fix it, but now it's basically useless (not like I'm using it right now anyway, but)...

timurg said:
Look here It will not fix the problem, but at least it will let you to bypass the "aligment screen"
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Thank you. I will try that when I have time later. I'm not sure what it is yet, but I'm sure it will work...

jzalapski said:
Thank you. I will try that when I have time later. I'm not sure what it is yet, but I'm sure it will work...
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hehe, just create an empty file "welcome.not" in the root of SD card and ... PROFIT!

timurg said:
hehe, just create an empty file "welcome.not" in the root of SD card and ... PROFIT!
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step 1: Create File on SD Card
step 2: ...
step 3: Profit

I had a similar problem on my trinity. It was an hardware problem, a spoiled thin strip that is between the LCD and front cover. As someone told me that
send it to warranty would take a long time to get it back I replaced myself the strip and now is working...

It's probably a hardware issue. You will have to replace your LCD+Touchscreen and if that doesn't work, you'll have to replace the flex that connects the LCD with the motherboard itself.
I fixed a TILT with that problem. I ended up buyina a new LCD when the problem was caused by the flex
PS, LCD screen is way cheaper than the flex.

Hey. So it looks like I did buy a replacement warranty. So I took it to my guy and he said that he would just replace it. He asked if I wanted the same one or if I wanted to pay the difference and get a new one....
I paid an extra $250 and got a diamond...
Problem Solved.... See you in the Diamond Section...

had same problem - which i solved by dissasembling and putting few paper pieces under the screen to make a good fit of screen inside the housing - and it helped - touhscreen works fine

maxxis said:
had same problem - which i solved by dissasembling and putting few paper pieces under the screen to make a good fit of screen inside the housing - and it helped - touhscreen works fine
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I had a similar problem with a Wizard and it turned out to be a bit of dirt that was stuck under the screen on one corner, resulting in constant contact that prevented the device from registering my taps. I removed the screen and cleaned it thoroughly to fix.
Also try "rubbing" the screen in each direction with both thumbs to see if you can slide the screen around and dislodge any dirt from the edges. The screen will move around slightly under the case without damaging the device.

Help me please, dead tytn2 :(

Hello guys, i really need your help!
My phone is so strange now, i have been using Ultimate-X.V9 -21054, but in last days, my phone has gone to white screen some times when i press to screen up sometimes everything is fine, but others not and my phone sometimes dont respond to my touch, and sometimes is a bit slow
Now i have flashed to RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship, during the upgrade my phone stay on tree colors, but on computer appeared the status bar! and everythime i turn on my phone now is like 90% is allways white :O i have open my phone, and reconected all again, but the problem still there! im using 3.34 hard spl!
Please someone help meee... i really love my tytn2 is there any way to put this fine? its hard spl problem?
Please help me

Please help meee My phone now is more slow than normal :/

That happened to me a while back, I took it apart several times and checked connections etc. but that did not fix it. I ended up buying a new LCD off of ebay which fixed it perfectly. So, I would suggest doing that (I bought one for 15USD used).

But this to me seems to be a problem on the main board, because the phone sometimes gets really slows And sometimes that white problem appears and others not, like 90% when i need to use my phone

Flash Stock ROM?
Did you flash if back to a OEM ROM? Did it work OK if you left it on the OEM ROM? I have used "Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2" as a OEM to upgrade from on many phones that I had upgrade issues with.

i think RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40. 02_1.65.17.56_Ship is an OEM rom isnt? :x

P4k1t0 said:
Hello guys, i really need your help!
My phone is so strange now, i have been using Ultimate-X.V9 -21054, but in last days, my phone has gone to white screen some times when i press to screen up sometimes everything is fine, but others not and my phone sometimes dont respond to my touch, and sometimes is a bit slow
Now i have flashed to RUU_Kaiser_HTC_PTG_3.28.410.0_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.17.56_Ship, during the upgrade my phone stay on tree colors, but on computer appeared the status bar! and everythime i turn on my phone now is like 90% is allways white :O i have open my phone, and reconected all again, but the problem still there! im using 3.34 hard spl!
Please someone help meee... i really love my tytn2 is there any way to put this fine? its hard spl problem?
Please help me
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did you ask in the proper thread before starting a new one?

msd24200 said:
did you ask in the proper thread before starting a new one?
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Lolol? and what is the proper thread? --' dont you see this is any rooms i have tried?

P4k1t0 said:
Lolol? and what is the proper thread? --' dont you see this is any rooms i have tried?
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noticed when searching all your post that you went straight to starting a new thread for this instead of asking in on of the flashing threads. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533976

Dude, and in what that link will help in my problem? if search on it, you will find the solution to my problem? the answer is NO, maybe you should read a bit better!

P4k1t0 said:
Dude, and in what that link will help in my problem? if search on it, you will find the solution to my problem? the answer is NO, maybe you should read a bit better!
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dude the answer is yes go ask in the flashing for newbs thread, or one of the other great links in the thread i posted. maybe you should read better the rules about starting new threads because you are having a flash related problem that needs to be asked in a thread already setup to deal with flash related matters instead of starting a new thread.
have you tried pushing the hard buttons to get into bootloader? do you think MTTY may help your current problem?

msd24200 said:
dude the answer is yes go ask in the flashing for newbs thread, or one of the other great links in the thread i posted. maybe you should read better the rules about starting new threads because you are having a flash related problem that needs to be asked in a thread already setup to deal with flash related matters instead of starting a new thread.
have you tried pushing the hard buttons to get into bootloader? do you think MTTY may help your current problem?
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Dude i can enter on bootloader yes, can i use my phone yes! but the problem is that sometimes (i mean, like all the time) the screen stay white when i turn it on, and the phone stays slow!!!!

jsgjm said:
Did you flash if back to a OEM ROM? Did it work OK if you left it on the OEM ROM? I have used "Kaiser_HTC_ASIA_HK_WWE_3.34.721.2" as a OEM to upgrade from on many phones that I had upgrade issues with.
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i have tried that rom too, but nothing the problem is here

It sounds like your Screen is on the way out. I would replace it.
No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol

zelendel said:
It sounds like your Screen is on the way out. I would replace it.
No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol
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Well, if is about the screen, i can say im safe :x
But one thing on my mind, the white screen i could say to change the screen to one new, but the problem is the kaiser stay a bit slow, and sometimes it dont respond to what i want!
With that stay thinking that the problem is about the mainboard or something like that :s but i hope the problem is the screen, i will buy a new on ebay

The ribbon cable for the digitizer (touch screen) attaches to the LCD, and then both signals feed through the same cable into the D-pad board, so its possible that there is a bad connection somewhere in the LCD/Digitizer assembly that causes it to not sense your inputs, even when the LCD itself is working. Mine just failed completely to a white screen and did not come back. It could be something besides the LCD..try flashing a new HardSPL and/or a different ROM, but if I had to bet, I would bet on the LCD.

zelendel said:
No lets play nice. Or Ill break out the fish heads lol
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Thankyou made me chuckle

P4k1t0, I know you're frustrated that you phone doesnt work, but do not get uppity at the other forum posters. If you sound off against msd24200 and a mod sees it, its likely to lock your topic.

i had the same situation two weeks back after i flash with my own cooked rom.
what i did is flash the stock rom through SD/storage card and everything is fine.
you already try this method ? you can search on how to flash from SD/storage card

to flash by sd card? ok ok i will try it right now to see

Very Frustrating Problem - Please help me!!

Hey everyone,
My problems consists of:
- The screen/touch is off. I've done Screen Alignment, it works for a couple hours or so then it just starts to have a mind of its own again
- When I slide the keyboard out, the screen does not rotate, it's just frozen in portrait mode. However, responds to the keys I push on the keyboard, I've tested it by texting someone.
The ROM I was using was a Generic NAM R3A WM6.1 when this problem occured, tried to re-flash with the same ROM, no luck and finally a custom one (Touch X 10.8) and unfortunately, still no luck.
I've never dropped the phone or done any modifications to it. Am I doomed and will have to send the phone in for repairs or is there another way to fix all this?
Thanks

exdout said:
Hey everyone,
My problems consists of:
- The screen/touch is off. I've done Screen Alignment, it works for a couple hours or so then it just starts to have a mind of its own again
- When I slide the keyboard out, the screen does not rotate, it's just frozen in portrait mode. However, responds to the keys I push on the keyboard, I've tested it by texting someone.
The ROM I was using was a Generic NAM R3A WM6.1 when this problem occured, tried to re-flash with the same ROM, no luck and finally a custom one (Touch X 10.8) and unfortunately, still no luck.
I've never dropped the phone or done any modifications to it. Am I doomed and will have to send the phone in for repairs or is there another way to fix all this?
Thanks
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If I were you, I'd have it back in the shop in no time. But you will need to put back the original rom, otherwise your guarantee will be gone.
Good luck!

Don't forget to revert the SPL since you flashed it to hard SPL.

If You make a new topic then it's pointless to use not at all informative cries for help. It does not say anything about the problem you are having.
The title should say something about the issue so people who know something about notice it and can offer to help and people having the same issue later can find this topic.

Sorry, I'm new to this message board and not really around either.

Keyborad sliding problem

Hey people i m new here and i flashed my xperia couple days ago with the christian rom and worked everything fine. but last night i wanted to send a message and i slided my keyborad as usully but the phone wouldnt go to landscape mode and the screen stud still, then i slided down and it changed to landscape mode and quckly back to portrait mode. Is the keyboard broken or is that the roms folt

Did it happen only once? If yes, then it's not a problem. Give the OS some time to settle lol. If not, flash another ROM and see what happens.

orelsi said:
Did it happen only once? If yes, then it's not a problem. Give the OS some time to settle lol. If not, flash another ROM and see what happens.
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its like that now everytime i want to use the keyboard and i tried at least 3 roms and i get the same problem
tnx for the response

xperiaboki said:
its like that now everytime i want to use the keyboard and i tried at least 3 roms and i get the same problem
tnx for the response
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It's clearly a hardware problem. Sorry man, but you'll have to send/take it to a repair shop .
I hate hardware problems..

orelsi said:
It's clearly a hardware problem. Sorry man, but you'll have to send/take it to a repair shop .
I hate hardware problems..
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i can't explain you realy good cuz my english is bad,but when i slide it up the screen would'nt turn and is standing still something like lag or what but when i type the keyborad buttons and slide it back down it changes quickly to landscape mode and back to portrait and everything that i typed is showen on the screen as it should be when the keyborad was normal

I understand 100% .
It can't be a software problem, because you have tried at least 3 different ROMs. The only explanation is a hardware problem. One of the parts of the is broken and it must be repaired/replaced.
We cannot help you . It's a hardware problem.