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I bought an ATT tilt quite a while ago. It is out of warranty now, and wouldn't you know it, something went wrong.
I'm currently using Dutty's Diamond ROM (with the keyboard fix installed), but the same happened before with the official ROM. While I text some keys don't work. I'll be typing away, just to look at the screen and see that I am missing a bunch of letters, rendering the message unreadable. I then have to go back and fill in all the blanks, and even then sometimes it takes several tries to get it to go. The same happens with the backspace key; sometimes it just doesn't work, other times it does (oddly enough, when it doesn't work normally, it usually lets me hit "function" and use it as the delete key).
My other concern is that there is a ton of lag while typing. It takes a while for letters to show up. Is that normal (for the Tilt, at least. I'm still wishing I had bought a BlackBerry)?
Yeah, I had similar troubles. I just upgraded my SPL and hopefully will be testing it further testing.
what SPL are you running?
I'm not entirely sure, it was a while ago that I flashed the ROM. How do I find out what it is? I tried Device Information, but it wasn't there.
you have to put it in Bootloader mode.
hold power and camera button while resetting with the stylus, then you'll come to the tricolor screen which will give you the SPL info.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
crushbup said:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
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You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
mech_supernova said:
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
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What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
crushbup said:
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
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cnn.cn has them for cheap AFAIK!
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
whistler4ever said:
You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
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I got the same SPL he has, I did a hard reset afterwards then downgraded back to 1.0 because I saw no improvement.
I thought RomeOS worked best with 3.29.
crushbup said:
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
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http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p4550-keyboard-flex-p-1433.html
found this in another thread!
Success! If the SPL doesn't work and I can't convince AT&T to do it, I'll order one and put it in. How do you install it?
EDIT: I just installed skyfire, and noticed that while I was putting in my email and password it was smooth and nothing was skipped. I'm almost 100% certain this is a problem with WinMo itself
I have been having the same problem as you are describing, but I have noticed that it is with heavy use keys like T, H, E, R, S and for some reason V.
I was getting the feeling that it was a hardware problem rather than a software problem because, especially with the V, I have to apply a bit of pressure to get the button to work.
Unfortunately for me I bought mine off Ebay so the warranty is already void.
Incidentally mine started happening when I had the original network providers (T-Mobile) rom on it. I have since installed an original HTC rom and it hasnt made the slightest bit of difference.
So, how easy is it to open up the back of the Tytn II and replace the keyboard unit then?
Oh my god! Thank you for posting this. I swear I have always felt like posting this but always got too lazy. I thought it was only me that had this problem. It is so annoying typing away, and then having to spend another minute to retype the letters that didn't get inputed the first time. It is so frustrating and I thought it was my fault or something, or ROM, I believe its hardware related, but I am not going to spend another dime on this POS. I'm just not so patiently awaiting t-mobile to release their android device, and I will jump ship and never look back! Thanks for the post again, it has given me piece of mind.....ironically
I'm kind of wanting T-Mobile's Android phone, but seeing as how it's made by HTC, I'll wait for the first couple of user-reviews to come out. I bought the Tilt based on website reviews, but man, I was really misled. They said the camera was great, I can only get blurry unrecognizable images. They made no mention of the fact that when you switch to landscape it takes 3 seconds for all the graphics to appear.
I'm disappointed, and I think my next phone will be a plain vanilla flip phone.
Anywho, I'm updating the SPL now, I'll post if it makes any change.
Okay, I now have HardSPL 3.56 and there does not appear to be much of a change. There was some short lag at the beginning of the text string, but afterwards it caught up. I missed no letters this time. I cannot say how much of this was the placebo effect (i.e. it just felt faster), but perhaps if everyone with the issue tries we can have a reasonable answer.
ETA: I added a poll, so if you try this, fill in the poll!
disable word suggestion under Input setting.
i don't miss any characters with it disabled.
It was already disabled for me. I know I didn't change it, I think the ROM came that way.
Heeeelpp !!!
I am going crazy over this problem :
I have had my HTC Diamond for less than two months and it has worked fine.
Two days ago it started misinterpreting my stylus' pointing on the screen.
It seem that the sensory-element in the screen has "moved"...
I have recalibrated the screen several times and it works for some 6 - 10 clicks.
Then the touch of the stylus is either not registered (if I try to reach something on top part of the screen) or I get results as if I was pointing between 0,1cm - 1,5 cm or more above og under (it varies) the actual contact point of the stylus (needless to say - I have given up using my fingertip).
I have tried with soft reset and have also tried the hard reset but to no avail.
It means that I can't use the phone for one thing and also, that most of the other functions are out of reach or very very hard to use because of the displacement.
Ozgur ? / Anybody ?
Chuckle
I have exactly the same problem on my wifes Diamond. Just havent got round to reporting it yet, thought i'd let her suffer a while first.
Suffering
mikey1963 said:
I have exactly the same problem on my wifes Diamond. Just havent got round to reporting it yet, thought i'd let her suffer a while first.
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If it is acting up like mine, she must be crawling the walls by now and refusing any form of physical contact - just like the phone does ...
Mine is so bad now, that I can't call a number from my list or pick up the phone without 4 -5 tries at hitting the right spot let alone using any other function.
Against better knowledge I today updated the ROM with the new one from HTC - and it is quite evident, that is is a hardware thing.
I am handing in my complaints and the phone today.
I had the same problem on dutty's v2.2 rom yesterday. I reflashed a radio as i had problem with gps as well and it is good back again. Reflash your radio. If not flash radio and other rom. Usually HTC rom don't upgrade your radio!
Same problem here, my diamond stated misinterpreting slightly the stylus, now it's all just messed up, wherever you click, it detects the pulsation at the upper left side of the screen. It doesn't pass the calibration phase either.
I did not try to reflash the radio, just reflashed the stock SPL and original Vodafone ROM for sending it to RMA. However they are telling me that the whole RMA-thing will take AT LEAST 2 weeks. Over 15 days without my phone. I need it, that's madness! They should give the users a new phone and send the other back to HTC for whatever they want to do with it!
I think it happened after I tried playing a bad-formatted WAV file and the phone crashed. Should I try the Radio thing?
I have an AT&T tilt and I just upgraded it to the WM6.1 ROM from the HTC webpage and since then I have noticed that when I turn of the screen, all of a sudden it just lights up for a sec and turns off again, without any reason, is there a way to fix this, do i have to flash it again? what do I have to do?
i have the same issue, seems like after i flashed it happened.. any ideas?
one cool feature is that when it flickers, if u press the screen constantly, it flickers.. like a strobe light.. lol
I have the same problem. It's annoying because I think I'm getting a text or call. and usually I don't receive texts, i have to see it light up then press the mail button to see if I have a new text. ARGH.
My Tilt does the same thing. It's a whiteish-gay light. It'll come on for short bursts or I'll notice it on in the middle of the night, and who knows how long it's on until I notice it.
I had upgraded to WM6.1 a while back, and didn't have any issues, but had to hard reset my Tilt and it has been doing it since.
It doesn't do it all the time, either. Weird.
Mine Does The Same Thing
I hope there is a fix some time for this ..
I'm glad i am not the only one, but havent found a fix yet
I seem to remember there being an issue with screen flicker when the Tilt first came out, I think it was related to having Telnav selected in the today screen items tab. Try removing the checks one item at a time from the items tab, I doubt it will be as simple as a software conflict but it could be worth trying.
I had an issue with SPB Pocket Plus on my today screen, once I moved it in to a tab on SPB Shell the issue disappeared.
Fixxed?
I dont know if it just stopped doing it, I am not paying attention anymore or if one of the many things I did finally worked, but the truth is i havent seen it do it again, Thanks to everybody
It been happening on my Tilt since I got it last month.
This is happening on my tilt too... only after upgrading to 6.1. Glad to see it is not just me, but very concerning that this is a problem directly in the 6.1 TILT rom.
Bump........
Any body have any luck on this? I continue to have this problem.
Adding my voice and another symptom
is anyone else having this problem:
1. lock the tilt by tapping 'device unlocked'
2. tap the power button.
3. the backlight comes on, no picture but instead of flashing it stays on draining the battery
4. tap the power button to turn the tilt back on
5. tap the power button to turn tilt back off again
6. tilt stays off.
the issue did not change with the backlight hotfix.
Maybe try another ROM
Finally, i found others with this stupid glitch
I thought it was a hardware error, so i had AT&T send me a warranty/replacement, and guess what... comes out of the box and STILL DOES IT! Has anyone with this problem tried installing a DIFFERENT ROM, like one from the XDA forums? I'm about to try that, because i am fed up with this. I will report if it works. ARG!
Sorry for the ranting. but in a way, i'm relieved. that there are others with this problem
... It might pay to just go back to Windows Mobile 6.0.....
-=ZYXTIA=-
Different ROM fixed problem, but just had more problems after. Sorry guys.
Me Too...
I am glad that I have found other people with the same issue as me. I thought it was just my phone, as I do a lot of backups and restores after I do something stupid with my phone and I also use a lot of beta/unstable software, and figured it was caused by these. However, it only happened after I upgraded to 6.1 stock ROM. Maybe somebody can figure out exactly why this happens, and then we can come up with a fix. I am just happy that I'm no longer alone with this issue
-Dave
I'm very pleased to know that it isn't just me experiencing this stupid backlight issue.
It started happening the second I upgraded to WM6.1
Funny thing is, it only happens to me if I Lock the phone (keys) and turn off the screen. If I just turn off the screen without locking, the backlight stays off.
It would be really great if someone could come up with a fix for this that doesnt require me to reflash my phone with some cooked up rom
has anyone tried this hotfix?
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=1&dl_id=269
i'm experiencing the same problem, will try it and post back as soon as i can
edit: didn't work. got some error about it couldnt remove the old customization tool or something like that
Running the AT&T 6.1 ROM and silly thing turns on by itself at 12 midnight. No connection to anything as I leave it in Flight Mode. Only goes off after I hit the Power Button. Drains the battery down to about half by the time I leave for work at 7AM.
Really is annoying!
Possible Solution
If you are still under warranty, call up AT&T warranty replacement (Customer service is 1-800-331-0500, and just ask for warranty department), and tell them you have this problem. TELL THEM YOU THINK IT IS A HARDWARE ISSUE, and they will send you a replacement, refurbished Tilt. The next one will also have WM6.1 on it, and do the same thing. HOWEVER, it is AT&T policy that after two replacements, instead of getting another one the third time, they give you a refurb of a DIFFERENT MODEL. That is how i got the AT&T FUZE (a.k.a. the HTC Touch Pro, a.k.a the "Raphael"). It doesn't have that problem. But otherwise, i have no other suggestions. i'm just sick of having AT&T screw up the phone's software, and then try to pass it off as quality.
Mine comes on exactly at midnight!
Annoying as hell...and the light from it wakes me up from across the room.
Mack
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..
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Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage
and your usb is probably whack
@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.
having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same thing has happened to me!! Coming on randomly, draining the battery really quickly and the same keys doing the same things as yours i.e. nothing or Start menu. The backspace and space don't work on the on-screen keyboard either. Is it the end of the road or has anyone the slightest idea what the hell to do!?!?!?
Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!
Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will
same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...
I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.
Any idea how to fix it??
keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry
For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?
oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix
adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.
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Hi guys, I've got a pretty big problem with my phone so I'm hoping someone can help. My Xperia is about 10 months old, and it just started giving me this problem last week.
When I slide the keyboard open, the display either doesn't switch to landscape mode, or takes like 30-45 seconds to switch, and doesn't switch entirely so some aspects like the taskbar are still appearing with the stuff that was from portrait mode.
When I slide it out, if I start typing the text won't show up, but when I slide it back in, the text appears instantly so it is registering the key presses.
I thought it would be a software problem so I tried uninstalling some stuff even though i didnt add anything recently, didn't help.
Finally after suffering with I decided to do a hard reset. I was very surprised to find that this didn't fix the problem, because I don't understand how this could be a hardware problem.
I've been using the Touch X ROM for 8 months and have never had this problem until now.
Anyone have any ideas? If not - I'm going to flash back to the stock ROM and try to return under warranty. Is there any way for them to tell that I used a custom ROM and does that void the warranty?
The keyboard also illuminates when I slide it out so I know that the slide is being registered as well as the fact it usually but not always, eventually switch to landscape mode
Normally I would say its a ribbon failure but its a bit odd that it does eventually switch. But its almost definitely a hardware problem.
If you send it under warranty just flash to the stock rom, and the return it to the original spl. And yes having a custom rom will void the warranty, but they can't find that out if you return to original spl