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Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?
Jens- said:
Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?
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I have the tytn2 with t-mobile in the states and have the same issue. With no 3g incoming calls take a backseat to web browsing. If pages are already loaded then you get the call if data is in working mode (loading stuff) then the call goes to vm. With 3g it's a non-issue. But no 3g for t-mo here yet.
I can't say that I have the same problem. I haven't had any voicemails pop up without a call indicator. I am on AT&T and I too am in an EDGE network region.
I have noticed same problem with TyTn II on Orange, not found a fix yet!
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It is definitely a 2g/3g issue - 2g data transmission is not compatible with simultaneous voice while 3g is. I can easily duplicate this behavior by using commmgrpro to change the data band, open IE and call the cel simultaneously. This is not a phone issue to the best of my knowledge - no phones are capable of 2g/voice together, although some might do a better job of "prioritizing" a call over a data session.
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That is absolutely correct. Once in a 2G network only, you cannot use Voice and data at the same time. This is one of the main advantages of the 3G, where you can browse and get voice at the same time.
And there is no way around it. Either Voice, or data. Sorry.
I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?
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I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?
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Push email means you're constantly connected but it does not mean your phone is constantly transmitting/receiving data. It's only receiving data when you actually receive an email. So I doubt Push Email has any different priority settings.
it's operator phone equipment depended only
non of my 2g phones ever had call's sms's mms's blocked by grps
I was wondering is there a setting on the TyTN II that I can set to make calls my first priority. When I'm using the internet on my phone, no calls can come through. My service provider said the calls should come through while going onto and said it's probably something I set on my phone that isn't letting the calls get through.
So.. is there a setting I can set to be able to receive calls while using the internet? By the way I'm using EDGE network, not 3G
i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet
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i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet
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hmm.. I thought so, but the representative said the calls should come through, so I was just asking to see if it really is possible.
Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.
Nghiem said:
Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.
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I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.
I have a similar question.
Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?
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Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?
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yup, you can
Actually I got a question that's somewhat related.. Calls do come through when I use 3G/HSDPA connection.. however, if I pick up - connection terminates... isn't HSDPA supposed to let you talk and use internet at the same time?
when im using gprs i can reeive calls but it kicks off my gprs connection - very annoying - so i guess this isnt a fully fledged device capable of both at the same time - there are three types right, 1 2 and 3?
if your phone is locked to wcdma in the network settings then yes, you can browse the internet and recieve pictures,.
I have found that when the phone is set to Auto selection, it always drops back to gsm to carry the phone calls (maybe this is network dependent), which while on gsm calls, the data connection is suspended.
Not all ROMS offer this functionality, I can confirm the the original HTC ROM for the kaiser does!
One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.
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I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.
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Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.
lcohen999 said:
Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.
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okay. thanks
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One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.
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I'm already using callwave, but the thing is that my emails aren't coming through to my phone sometimes, push email doesn't work at all.
i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up
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i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up
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But AT&T has their 3G network, I'm using t-mobile which doesn't
Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
Yes google voice need wifi/data to connect.
vadox6466 said:
Hey guys,
Posted a similar question on the official google help forum but don't expect an answer to arrive from there any time soon. I got my new N1 last week, and was excited to set it up with google voice. I bought it unlocked from google (needed a prepaid plan). Set it up so all my outgoing calls are routed through GV, and it was working fine up until today.
Today, I tried to make a call from outside of my apartment. I have wifi in my apt, and the N1 is connected to the network whenever I'm at home. However, the call from outside didn't go through. Like I said, I have a prepaid plan from tmobile ($50/mo for unlimited text and talk but no data). I tried calling from various locations and with different settings, and pinpointed the problem to not having a wifi connection.
So the question is: does google voice need wifi/data to connect? I seem to remember using it last week with wifi turned off from my apartment and was able to place calls just fine. Doesn't seem to be the case any more. Doesn't really make sense though, because GV isn't a VOIP service either way..
Thanks for any help
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Yes you must have data to get a gv connection from the application. BUT if you desperately need to use gv w/o data you can dial your number and connect to gv then place the outgoing call through that. This way you can use it while only on gsm Its a hassle but if youre desperate its a solution.
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Didnt think of that one..+1 to you
now that the topic is here, a little off topic but how do u use google voice? doesnt it like put your voicemail as a text message or email n send it to u? i tried sending a voicemail to myself through a different number but i got nothing. how does this work?
Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
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Just so you know, making calls through Google Voice still uses minutes (it calls to an access number, and then connects the call to the intended party).
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Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
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Good to note anyway, but miketlo's tip was to get around the fact that the GV dial-out requests are sent over data, not to get around using minutes. Similarly, you can add the 406-xxx-xxxx number that corresponds to each of your contacts and text/call that. This of course is a pain to set up, you can't use the GV app to do it, and you use texts/minutes from your plan, but it works. That's the way I did it last year when I still had a feature-phone.
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Yep, I hear ya. I just said it because the OP indicated that they were on a prepaid plan.. so wanted to make sure they knew that GV isn't some sort of VoIP application. (making calls will chew up their prepaid credit)
For "true" calling over wifi, you need Sipdroid/fring.
Add inbound and outbound numbers to friends and family plan. Minutes won't be used or billed.
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So here's my problem: I dont wanna hear that you cant do it, but there has GOT to be a way to make phone calls over a 4G network. I dont care if I have to download an APP, a PROGRAM, or if I have to go MAD SCIENTIST on this thing. Any help you can give me will be GREATLY appreciated and if you could post a step by step guide for people having the same issue then that's even better.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Google Voice doesnt seem to work independently. It doesnt notify you when someone is calling and doesnt seem to have the ability to make outgoing calls.
Tried SipGate but only to find out that they have no more numbers in my area (that was a KILLER)
I'm currently able to make calls on Skype BUT ONLY on a Wi-Fi connection (limited).... I need 4G network calling (everywhere)
Anything you can do guys, this has been a thorn for many people and there arent many things out there that show you how to set it up.
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So here's my problem: I dont wanna hear that you cant do it, but there has GOT to be a way to make phone calls over a 4G network. I dont care if I have to download an APP, a PROGRAM, or if I have to go MAD SCIENTIST on this thing. Any help you can give me will be GREATLY appreciated and if you could post a step by step guide for people having the same issue then that's even better.
Here's what I've tried so far:
Google Voice doesnt seem to work independently. It doesnt notify you when someone is calling and doesnt seem to have the ability to make outgoing calls.
Tried SipGate but only to find out that they have no more numbers in my area (that was a KILLER)
I'm currently able to make calls on Skype BUT ONLY on a Wi-Fi connection (limited).... I need 4G network calling (everywhere)
Anything you can do guys, this has been a thorn for many people and there arent many things out there that show you how to set it up.
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download sipdroid, and when you set it up go to the bottom and click, link with google voice. I am making calls over 4g, just cant receive.
I currently have the sipdroid app, however I have no idea how set it up with the right settings to connect it with my google voice. If you could help me out, I would seriously appreciate that.
blazephilly21 said:
I currently have the sipdroid app, however I have no idea how set it up with the right settings to connect it with my google voice. If you could help me out, I would seriously appreciate that.
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Blaze what part of Philly?
Ok so currently I've gotten Sipdroid working and making calls over the 4G network. However, when calling over the 4G network the calls are choppy and full of static to the person on the other end. On my end though, the call is perfectly clear.
I've tried altering the Audio/Video options (turning them all on low, turning them on high), messing with the Audio Codecs (turning them all on NEVER except GSM 13kbit), and turned off the improve audio option. However my calls still remain the same.
Has anybody figured out to completely clear up Sipdroid calls over 4G? Is there any other APP i can download to complement the clarity of the call?
Sipdroid works perfect with google voice. I can make call to any part of the world!!! Hell yesssss!!! You can try. Troubleshoot?? Ask us!!!
Yes, but how are the calls over a 4G network? If they're clear, I'd like to know how if possible.
Does Sipdroid work for making as well as receiving calls over 3G/4G?
Yes, Sipdroid works for me over Tmobile's 4G network, but it sounds choppy to ppl on the other end. Through a Wi-Fi connection though it sounds prefect.
Waiting on Skype personally here. And what was that other program people are talking about? Tango?
naucas said:
Sipdroid works perfect with google voice. I can make call to any part of the world!!! Hell yesssss!!! You can try. Troubleshoot?? Ask us!!!
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any part of the world? I tried to call london and I got a message saying I didn't have enough credits. I think for international calls you have to have $ on your google voice account as it uses GV to make the international call. Unless there is another way
hrm I may have to try sipdroid then. =) Does google talk allow for you to have a phone number like skype does?
not sure this has been answered. but
just tested, I CAN receive incoming calls when my Sipdroid is on (green light) and if anyone calls my google voice number.
i mean, getting everything connected isnt the problem. there's plenty of guides online to help you do that with different apps. my problem is the call clarity over T-Mobile's 4G network when using sipdroid + google voice. On my end the calls are clear and perfect, but when I start talking the listener hears choppy words and static. Does anybody have ANY kind of solution to this issue??? Much appreciated.
blaze, I know you've asked this a bunch of times, so I'll venture a potential solution.
Who's your SIP provider? I've used pbxes and had very clear calls on my Droid, even over 3G. Maybe try changing up your SIP provider.
I can send and receive calls over sip Droid and gvoice. Works perfect on wifi have not tried cell network.
@ Z4nd4r
I use the same thing (sipdroid + pbxes) But I've basically given up on the call clarity over 4G and am looking for a supplemental phone now. It could be the strength of your network. Unfortunately with T-Mobile in Philadelphia on 4G, I'm thinking its just gonna be this way. Unless you have a settings tweak.
can someone post there guide to have this working for everyone
I have the guide and everything...its all set up. My issue is CALL CLARITY. Are you using yours on T-Mobile's 4G network. Cause its choppy as hell when I use it for the person on the other end. Clear for me, Static for them
On Wi-Fi it works fine...on 4G, not so much
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
raazman said:
I was wondering how wifi calling is going to work with the Nexus 6. Tmobile said that wifi calling is coming to the Nexus 6 early 2015 via an OTA update. Will the Nexus 6 from the play store also be able to receive this update and be able to use wifi calling?
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Since all the US carriers will have the same SKU, it's literally the exact same phone for all carriers. So there's no way they can tell where you purchased it, all the OTAs will be handled by Google.
What's likely happening is that Google is still finishing up the code for a generic wifi calling API (a lot of code is likely shared with VoLTE if I had to take a guess). When it detects a T-mobile SIM it will setup T-mobile's variant of wifi calling. Same for Sprint and any other carrier that rolls out wifi calling. So even if you aren't using T-mobile you'll get support for their wifi calling when that OTA is released. It just won't be activated unless you have a T-mobile SIM inserted.
It's going to be a similar case to support VoLTE on different carriers, since as of right now each implementation is incompatible with the others. It would be smart for Google to make a generic API for this so it's quicker/easier to add support for new carriers.
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Alright, that sounds pretty simple. Thanks!
On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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I am on sprint and will get my N6 when it come out. I'm hoping they do the same for sprint as well for WiFi calling support. I know that on sprint they don't count against ur minutes or text... And sprint has unlimited LTE ...
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On a separate note, I wonder if once it is enabled, if someone would be able to modify the N6 so it can bypass the WiFi calls going against your minutes, like how you can get around WiFi Hotspot checker on the N5 by editing the Database file. It probably isn't even possible on WiFi calls, but we do have some pretty smart people around these forums, so I'll stay hopeful for a bit. I have the $30 "unlimited data" plan with 100 minutes. Would be nice if I could bypass that 100 minutes by using WiFi calling somehow.
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Why don't you use hangouts to call?
raazman said:
Why don't you use hangouts to call?
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
Sprint has WiFi calling on some models already also so it's probably close to the same for all
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I currently do on my N5. However, the quality is usually dependent on who I'm calling and where they are. It's rarely a problem on my end since I have really fast data connections at home and virtually anywhere I go. For example, my parents' WiFi router is in a bedroom at the opposite end of the house from where the living room is. So when I call them, even though I have a strong WiFi signal, their's isn't very good, so the call quality diminishes a bit. It would be great if I could use my WiFi signal and call their actual cell phone number (or house phone) so their is no drop in quality, without eating into my minutes.
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Use hangouts to place a call over Wi-Fi to their cell phones?
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Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
charesa39 said:
Don't you have to have a Google Voice number for that, which you have to pay for? The whole thing would be not having to pay anything more than what I'm paying now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not hurting for minutes, but it would be nice to have free WiFi calling/minutes available if necessary.
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
Edit: https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3187125?hl=en
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It's free in the USA to call to landline.
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WHAT?!?!?! I feel like my whole life has been a lie!!! Haha! But in all seriousness, I thought that was only for people with Google Voice numbers. But after doing a quick Google search, it looks like you only need a GV number to RECEIVE said calls. Wow. I feel so dumb right about now. Thanks for enlightening me, guys!