All of the sudden tonight I started seeing white rectangles when I open a program and black rectangles when I close a program. When I open a program, first it will show a medium size hollow rectangle about half the size of the screen followed by a larger one about 2/3's the size of the screen and then the program opens. When I close a program it does it in reverse with black rectangles. Also, when I change todayscreen themes just after I pick a new theme I get a tiny rectangle in the upper left hand corner followed by a slightly larger one a little more towards the middle of the screen and then the wait cursor pops up. To me it seems like it's an animation, but I don't remember enabling anything like that and menu animations are disabled. I don't really care if it keeps doing that as long as it's not a sign of a problem of some kind. Anyone else seen anything like this? If it's something I accidentally enabled, how did I end up doing it so I can turn it off in the future if I decide to?
HKLM\System\GWE\Animate set this to 0
it now animates opening and closing windows
Thanks RPGO. I was just about to hard reset my phone since no one seemed to know what was going on and I wanted to make sure that it wasn't something that could potentially harm my phone sooner or later. I still don't quite know how it got activated.
Figured out how it got it got activated. It was part of Paul's tweak pack over at MoDaCo. I was just over there and happened to run across someone asking for an untweak for that tweak.
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
Koush said:
Hey, I reverse engineered the Nav wheel. It may be multitouch, but the raw data I get back from the Diamond does not indicate that it is. The only data I was able to retrieve is rotations per second. I also have not figured out how to reverse engineer the center button.
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Maybe you have already seen it .. but check out the 'NavDbgTool.exe' here...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Diamond_Testing_Tool
Riel said:
Since there IS a topic about using the G-sensor, I guess it is a good idea to come up with a thread about using the capacative touchpad of the diamond.
Since the test-tools were out, we saw that the left and right part of the centre-button is a multi-touch enabled touchpad.
It could be used in so many ways, for gestures, extra 'hardware' keys, etc. That's the reason for this topic.
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Good idea ! I was thinking about starting such topic..
What about a unlocker ? If you slide your finger from Home key to the Answer key and at the same time you slide your other finger from the Back key to the Don't Answer key ? Could be nice.. just an idea!
What I have seen, that is quite hard, since above and below the nav-pad is no touch-pad. It sees it as 'nav-pad action' then.
I thought of navigating in another way.
What multitouch-applications do there exist, and are any of them usable for the limited space we have besides the nav-wheel?
It DOES give 4 extra 'hardware' keys. Even key-combinations can be made
Maybe some genious will find a slick way of text-inputting via the 2 pads !
Just give it a small kick upwards
Dont let this topic die?
I was just looking at this for a bit, think I get some clues about how to get the data. I have a time-problem, though Will probably be a while before I pick it up again.
However, I think I saw Schaps mention he is using it in his new touchxperience UI, that'd mean he knows how to do it. Why not just ask him?
I can see one use already. Capacitive sensors are more responsive than resistive screens, so it would be cool to use this in place of touching the screen to scroll through touchflo3d tabs.
Surur
Does any one know if this is implemented in the touch pro? and if so, in what way? Maybe we will inherit whatever the pro has to offer in this regard.
YESSSS!
This is awsome!
Did you guyzz see the vid vid?
Unlocking the Diamond with no Hard button touch at alll?.
Cheers fellasss
Nice, looking forward to a nice task manager and launcher mouse pad thing in the future!
A mouse like on the Samsung Omnia would be a good idea.
Surur
Not really multitouch
OK, I've download the NavDBG tool and played with it... strictly speaking this isn't multitouch, or not multitouch in the way that the apple looks at it. It's single touch but split into 3 areas. Basically imagine the button area at the bottom of the diamond is split into 3 columns.
You have 3 single touch areas:
1) On the left with the home and dial buttons
2) In the middle tracking outside the circle or also detecting a touch (not a button press) inside the circle. If you finger touches both outside and inside the circle, outside the circle takes precedence
3) On the right with the back and hangup buttons.
The multitouch impression comes from the fact that all 3 of these single touch areas can be used simultaneously.
This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple, but it does mean that a device fairly limited in terms of buttons could get a lot of good enhancements to useability.
My biggest annoyance with the device is when you are trying to gesture in TF3D or in an app (eg scrolling in opera) and it decides you've tapped mid gesture and follows a link etc, using the louch sensitive lower areas for gestures would eliminate this problem and make for a much better user experience (in my opinion).
Also, for games, the potential to use the touch sensitive lower area for a range of game controls would be great.
So all good stuff, but not strictly speaking multitouch.
edit: Additionally it seems to only see a narrow horizontal band in the middle (wheel) section. Interestingly it seems to register about 1cm on each side of the wheel and inside the button, it seems to infer rotation around the wheel based on the finger movements as it crosses these areas.
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This doesn't in my opinion open up brilliant options in terms of pinch to shrink spread to enlarge ala apple
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Seeing how small the pad area it, this would still work, just with fingers on different sensitive areas. If fact, this sounds like a perfect first implementation - zooming in Opera Mobile (although a bit senseless since the scroll wheel works with one hand while pinching will need two).
Surur
i think the biggest advantage of this revelation will the benefit of some new added buttons. I can think of a few uses for them too.
left/right touch to
move fwd/back through tabs in opera
skip fwd/back tracks in music player
pounding the hell out of when playing daily thompsons decathalon (if anyone remembers that great 80's game)
I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I remember reading somewhere that someone is preparing a SDK for this. I think it's very important since we have almost no programmable keys. This can be used as extra keys. Any news on this front?
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I would love to see this!
My full on support.
I was thinking of using the touchpanels for a mousepointer control!
I know, when browsing opera, my fingers are too fat to click small links.
Must keep zooming.
I wonder if it was possible to pop up a mouse cursor, and move it with one small touch-panel. The other panel for left and rightclicks.
I have held my diamond with that idea, and I think it is very useful and finger-friendly!
CapacitiveFingerLock
I did make a Proof of Concept of CapacativeFingerLock. This one gives another possibility of locking/unlocking the Touch Diamond or Touch Pro.
I just saw Google's fastflip announcement and gave it a try. On my Hero, the webpage does not look right. That is, I don't get the icons at the bottom (left arrow, right arrow, + sign) as you can see in the screen shots at http://fastflip.googlelabs.com/mobile
Can someone check and see if their Hero does the same thing?
I think Google is now so big that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Look at our crummy Maps support, no Google Earth, and now no Flip.
I didnt see the icons at the bottom either, but it worked using gestures (swipe left or right to 'flip' )
i can't imagine you would see the icons at the bottom as those are put there by the iphone browser.....you don't have one of those silly things do you???
and as for the rest, seems fine to me.
Nahh, if you look at the screen shots those buttons at the bottom are part of fastflip. Not the ones you get after pressing the menu button. On my screen, they are not there. The space is blank white. No big deal, just want to know if others are seeing the same thing.
Hi,
only icons I can see are the same as in this picture iPhone icons picture so I think they are iPhone specific
Sorry clobber but that blue bar is, as has already been said, Iphone browser only.
They are the back, forward, new window, bookmarks and switch window buttons from the iphone browser. you will not see them on an android phone.
shudder...i need to go wash my mouth out after mentioning that thing....!
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Sorry clobber but that blue bar is, as has already been said, Iphone browser only.
They are the back, forward, new window, bookmarks and switch window buttons from the iphone browser. you will not see them on an android phone.
shudder...i need to go wash my mouth out after mentioning that thing....!
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Haha. Fair call. I didn't even notice there were suppose to be buttons. I just instinctively swiped to change pages since that is the paradigm used through out the phone.
I hate buttons on screens for navigation. Totally pointless. It is a pity that Google couldn't display the whole article straight away. Although you get the gist of that article after the first few paragraphs anyway and it's not hard to browse to the original article.
I like it...but don't know how it fits with Reader which I get my new via RSS. I guess Flip filters it down to only the good/popular stuff.
Hi Guys,
Just a quick one, has anyone found a way to calibrate the screen as I find that when trying to select text and stuff the cursor is way off my finger and it's a tad difficult.
Is there anyway to run a calibration like you used to have to do for WM Devices that used a stylus???
Thanks.
Jamie
I have the same problem but i am putting it down to the first time i have used a touch screen like this (had Touch HD last)
I actually think it's designed that way, ie so you can see where you are placing the cursor rather than having to guess where your finger is over which piece of text you are trying to alter, if you watch when you place your finger the cursor appears above your finger which makes it a lot easier to position in a bunch of text.
IMO it's a neat solution to not having a track ball for easy positioning for editing text.
To confirm - it is designed that way
That's fine and now you mention it, it does make sense, thought it was just me that's all lol Actually quite like it now I'm getting used to it. Used to be tricky to do this on iPhone as my finger covered up the word lol
I have to say I loled a bit when I read this, you can even see the cursor pop up from under your finger
Is anyone else's touch/drag/lift smilies overlay horribly inaccurate-- like one whole smile row off?
Why/is there a fix?
Thanks,
Mine is. I think this is a feature. If it were otherwise, your finger would cover the smilie and you wouldn't be able to see which one you are selecting (maybe I just have fat fingers ). Anyway, it makes it easier for me... The same behavior can be seen if you hold down the period.