I'm completely stock right now with the new update H7 and new to this flashing and rooting stuff. I've been reading everything and seems yall got all this down to just clicking one button and the program does the rest.
So before i try this everyone says backup backup backup soo that leads to...
1. Is there anyway to back up my phone like it is now since i haven't rooted. Just in case something goes wrong
Or
2. is the only option i have is to do the one click root thing and back up the rom then try to flash the 2.2 ?
and
3. If something goes wrong and 2.2 doesn't flash right..could i just go into recovery mode and click reinstall packages and be back to the h7 (if i don't root to back up)? or does that recovery option get deleted/overwritten when i try to flash 2.2 with odin one click?
thanks for any help
You don't really have to back up your phone. It is up to you if you have important info, games etc that you want to keep. Lots of times games were either purchased from the market so they will be attached to your profile. Use appbrain to sync your market as well. Otherwise there really is no way to do a backup unless you are rooted.
so basically i'll have to root to back up the phone at its current state? ...i'm not really worried about having to reinstall everything i've only bought beautiful widget so far but i think froyo flash deletes everything anyways right? but i just want to be able to go back to stock in case something goes wrong and the flash doesn't work or say the phone screws up and i need the warranty.
If the flash goes wrong can i go back to recover mode and hit the reinstall and will it reinstall the h7 i have now back to the phone or will that recovery option be deleted when you try to flash the 2.2?
In rom manager you have the option to back up your phone in its current state. If you get boot loops or continuous force closes you would need to use odin to flash back and do root again to load rom manager. Then you would be able to load your backup.
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ok thanks man, ...one more thing does the one click root/unroot work just fine with the 2.1-update1 right? the h7 firmware wont make a difference when trying to root?
That should have no issues with 2.1.
My experience with JH7 to 2.2 became a huge issue when I used Master Clear....
I could not for the life of me get the phone into Recovery or Download mode using the three button press or any other combo of USB battery pulls and button presses.....ended up biting the bullet and using the SDK method which turned out to work flawlessly.......after hours of searching, googling, reading and experimenting.....
I now have two Captivates in Stock froyo mode.
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Im getting confused so i just want to clarify these apps, If i flash my captivate using ODIN doesnt all the files get deleted? so I don't get it how can you use these apps to recover any of files if its deleted during the procedure.
Titanium backup is for apps and settings. ROM Manager backs up your ROM and your current setup, it is also used to flash ROMS and other mods and CloclworkMod Recovery is a part of the app. Get the paid version of both apps, not expensive and you will be using them often.
so if i buy these 2 and flash my phone using odin they will stay on my phone?
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so if i buy these 2 and flash my phone using odin they will stay on my phone?
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No. No apps stay on your phone after flashing. When you use these two apps, they store files on your internal SD card. This does not get touched when you flash a new rom. Therefore after you flash a new rom, just go to the market, redownload the apps, and restore what you've backed up.
I got a new question guys I backup my stock ROM the one that comes on factory but rooted and im currently running cog 2.2 beta 9.1.2. My question is if i restore backup will it restore to my old 2.1 stock with root?
And for my next question is there a way to go back to stock ROM jf6 using ROM manager? Thanks everyone in advance
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I have Rom manager and did a Rom backup.
How do I restore my phone?
I did something and my phone will not come on.
It will get the AT&T world phone screen, the 3G splash and even play the sounds
and the Galaxy S screen than goes black.
Doing the volume up/down and power take me to recovery screen,
did reinstall package chose update.zip but no luck.
Working again, phewww almost threw it in the trash.
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Working again, phewww almost threw it in the trash.
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i love it when people say this. it shows exactly how much effort they are willing to put into fixing the stuff they screw up.....
I've been trying to read as much as I could about loading custom roms, but I haven't found a guide that explains everything. I've gone through all the stickies but I haven't gotten a clear idea of flashing roms.
In the past, I've rooted my captivate and then downloaded the Titanium backup manager. But after wanting to go back to stock, my phone completely died using Odin to go back to JF6 and then doing an OTA update.
So before experimenting with my phone again, I want to be sure I know exactly what I'm doing. So is there a detailed guide on about using custom roms? Such as, what exactly is the update.zip file? When should I create a copy of it? What is Clockwork? If I want to revert back to stock, how do you go back to JH7 instead of JF6?
Not really, not for the level of detail you are looking for.
I'd recommend trying before you know everything . Just make sure make sure you have download mode working via the 3 button combo
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Update.zip is what android automatically uses in recovery mode - clockwork is an update.zip that leads you into a super cool recovery mode that lets u do more.
U don't really need to mess with it.
Just install ROM manager and it will handle it
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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If you are going back to stock, disabling lagfix isn't necessary. Everything is completely overwritten. It's only necessary if you don't go back to stock and just upgrade instead.
I'm interested in this too - First Android device and being on a tiny bit of a learning curve...
Reading through the forums here, I see the popular safety first consensus seems to be Odin back to stock, then root/ROM Manager and on with the next ROM. Fair enough, I have no problem with that, but I'd like to know the reasoning?
So lets say I try to go from my current Cog 2.1.6 (voodoo disabled) to the latest Cognition 2.4.1 beta (or any other ROM) via ROM Manager. What disasters "will" befall me? What disasters "might" befall me? Why?
You may or may not get frequent crashes if you do not flash to stock first.
Just make sure you can get into download mode. Everything else will work out
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Hello All,
I'm starting a new thread, because I am in a situation where I want to get my girlfriends phone back to stock so I can warranty it, and hopefully someone here will have the answer and people will have one place to look for putting their Roger's Samsung Captivate back to stock.
I'm hoping someone can tell everyone why we can't seem to get back to stock on these ROM's, here are the things I've tried:
Originally cleared everything rooted the phone through an update.zip, then put on the Clockworkmod Recovery and flashed Cognition v2.3b8, Trying to fix, battery life and lagging issues on her phone, (had a couple of random restarts the day before I flashed, so I was hoping it would fix that).
Then she started noticing the random restarts more often, so I tried:
clearing everything again through the recovery and tried restore from my backup to put things back, it looks like it extracted (or Installed) successfully then when it boots, it gets to the black, "Swipe" screen, then it freezes.
I tried to flash the Rogers_Stock.zip, same thing. Then I extracted the zip, and put it into the backup folder, hoping it will restore it like a normal restore, same thing.
So right now I'm stuck with a phone that says AT&T when it boots (I read one post on how to remove that) and cognition boot up.
Basically, I want to get this to look enough like stock to return.
I was thinking I can try to get rid of that AT&T popup, then flash the stock ROM, and say it just stopped booting for some reason. But then I still need to get rid of the Clockworkmod Recovery.
Wow that was a mouthful.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide for use Roger's users (or their significant others).
AZ
try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=867617
There are others like it too. Just don't try flashing the bootloader or sbl !
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Hello All,
I'm starting a new thread, because I am in a situation where I want to get my girlfriends phone back to stock so I can warranty it, and hopefully someone here will have the answer and people will have one place to look for putting their Roger's Samsung Captivate back to stock.
I'm hoping someone can tell everyone why we can't seem to get back to stock on these ROM's, here are the things I've tried:
Originally cleared everything rooted the phone through an update.zip, then put on the Clockworkmod Recovery and flashed Cognition v2.3b8, Trying to fix, battery life and lagging issues on her phone, (had a couple of random restarts the day before I flashed, so I was hoping it would fix that).
Then she started noticing the random restarts more often, so I tried:
clearing everything again through the recovery and tried restore from my backup to put things back, it looks like it extracted (or Installed) successfully then when it boots, it gets to the black, "Swipe" screen, then it freezes.
I tried to flash the Rogers_Stock.zip, same thing. Then I extracted the zip, and put it into the backup folder, hoping it will restore it like a normal restore, same thing.
So right now I'm stuck with a phone that says AT&T when it boots (I read one post on how to remove that) and cognition boot up.
Basically, I want to get this to look enough like stock to return.
I was thinking I can try to get rid of that AT&T popup, then flash the stock ROM, and say it just stopped booting for some reason. But then I still need to get rid of the Clockworkmod Recovery.
Wow that was a mouthful.
Thanks in advance for any help anyone can provide for use Roger's users (or their significant others).
AZ
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Gin's got you on the right path for sure. A couple more items for you:
This post should help with removing the AT&T bootup logo: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849789
If you use Heimdall to flash the Rogers stock firmware that is in the post the Gin linked to then you will absolutely need to follow the instructions to use the Heimdall drivers for your captivate when it's connected or it won't see the device when you tell it to start. Like gin said, don't touch primary or secondary bootloader, leave those out and don't try to repartition it.
Restoring the stock firmware will remove the custom kernel that is installed with Cognition (at least it should) and so the Clockwork recovery should no longer be installed once the restore to stock is done. You can double-check once you are back to stock by powering off the phone and then hold both up and down volume + power, let the power button go after it restarts once and you see the I896 for the 2nd time. It should take you to the stock 2e recovery screen. If it does, you should be golden.
HTH
Wow, thanks all,
I used that method without the PIT file,
I just want to say thanks to everyone that offered help,
Goina try to send it for warranty now.
thanks again,
Joe / AZ
As you are about to see, I'm new to this.
I have been attempting to root my Captivate. I have tried Galaxy One Click Root and Super One Click 1.7, among others.
My phone won't enter recovery mode. I have tried to install z4root, which the phone blocks. I've tried using sideload wonder machine, which doesn't work either.
I downgraded to 2.1....nothing. Reloaded 2.2....nothing.
Any advice would be helpful at this point, and please be specific, as I am slightly retarded.
It its rumored that Odin one click to jf 6 will actually get rid if the recovery/ download modes, maybe try flashing a cognition ROM
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It its rumored that Odin one click to jf 6 will actually get rid if the recovery/ download modes, maybe try flashing a cognition ROM
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That's not a rumor, it's a fact. Does not happen with all models.
What about full odin to jf6? I personally like to use odin every so often to master clear.
It would explain why superone click wouldnt root my phone lst time i master cleared, too. Ended up installing cwm and flashing straight to rom(which took care of rooting and 3rd party apps)
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What about full odin to jf6? I personally like to use odin every so often to master clear.
It would explain why superone click wouldnt root my phone lst time i master cleared, too. Ended up installing cwm and flashing straight to rom(which took care of rooting and 3rd party apps)
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As I said, I'm slightly retarded. Do you know of a forum with instructions for doing this? Everything else I've tried has just caused a face to appear on my phone's screen laughing at me.
When you use super one click, did you enable usb debugging?
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The captivate is actually an extremely easy root process...
Download this file update.zip
Put it on your internal SD card (internal Memory) not your SD card you can remove
Turn off your phone
Once off hold both volume up and down and hold power until you see the AT&T boot screen then let go of all 3 buttons. You should see recovery mode soon. Select Reinstall Packages, congratulations you are now rooted.
Is that the modded cwm? I think he said he was on 2.2. Regular cwm won't work with froyo(signature verification errors). There is a modded one somewhere on this site that either replaces 3e, our fixed sig on cwm.
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I think he downgraded to 2.1 again which is what you'll need to be on to use the method I described.
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I think he downgraded to 2.1 again which is what you'll need to be on to use the method I described.
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I'm running 2.2
1-Downloaded and installed file update.zip to internal sd. Turned off phone. Tried to enter recovery mode. Got blank screen, att screen, blank screen, att screen, blank screen, etc etc.
2-Tried to install z4root. Blocked by phone. Tried to use sideload wonder machine, which can't detect the phone (in usb debugging mode and mass storage (tried both))
3-Tried Super One Click, which ran but did nothing.
4-Flashed to 2.1 and factory reset. Tried (2) again. Failed. Tried 1-3. Failed.
5-Flashed to a different version of 2.2. Started over. Failed.
I've been using some of the mobile tech videos, but everytime I get to the "Eureka!" phase, my phone just laughs at me.
use odin full version to flash speedmod kernel on 2.2, i even do this on 2.1, but on 2.1 you need the .zip file on the sdcard before you start because the phone will not boot with a 2.2 kernel, only enter recovery.
once on speed mod kernel you can either root and flash a kernel for att roms or flash a new rom without the need to root, the new rom will be rooted.
if you are on 2.2 you will need a computer one way or another, flashing back to stock can be a pain for those with the 3 button problem and it is way more time consuming than flashing a kernel, i have never used the tools out there but i don't know of an easier way than flashing a kernel via odin, especially if you intend to flash a 3rd party rom. also any time you flash a sbl.bin or boot.bin can be a dangerous situation. bad flashes that break the boot loaders aren't common but it causes enough "omg i bricked" threads to keep me from recommending it. there is a odin one click with a 3 button fix, if you use that once it will be fixed untill you flash a rom with odin that changes the bootloaders again. im not sure if there is a .tar stock rom for odin without the bootloader but that would be a good idea if there isn't.
you must not have the right drivers installed.
2.2 cannot be rooted by using an update.zip....you will need to get your drivers working and adb seeing the device....
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I'm running 2.2
1-Downloaded and installed file update.zip to internal sd. Turned off phone. Tried to enter recovery mode. Got blank screen, att screen, blank screen, att screen, blank screen, etc etc.
2-Tried to install z4root. Blocked by phone. Tried to use sideload wonder machine, which can't detect the phone (in usb debugging mode and mass storage (tried both))
3-Tried Super One Click, which ran but did nothing.
4-Flashed to 2.1 and factory reset. Tried (2) again. Failed. Tried 1-3. Failed.
5-Flashed to a different version of 2.2. Started over. Failed.
I've been using some of the mobile tech videos, but everytime I get to the "Eureka!" phase, my phone just laughs at me.
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sounds like you need the 3button fix first. there is an odin stock rom+3button fix, it should take you to 2.1 but you will get recovery mode. if that fixes the recovery mode 3-button combo and the phone boots you can put the rom of your choice on the sd card, then odin flash speedmod kernel and flash the new rom, warning the phone doesn't boot a 2.1 rom with speedmod kernel, i only do this as a faster way to get into cwm recovery, only do that if you intend to flash a rooted rom from 2.1.
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use odin full version to flash speedmod kernel on 2.2, i even do this on 2.1, but on 2.1 you need the .zip file on the sdcard before you start because the phone will not boot with a 2.2 kernel, only enter recovery.
once on speed mod kernel you can either root and flash a kernel for att roms or flash a new rom without the need to root, the new rom will be rooted.
if you are on 2.2 you will need a computer one way or another, flashing back to stock can be a pain for those with the 3 button problem and it is way more time consuming than flashing a kernel, i have never used the tools out there but i don't know of an easier way than flashing a kernel via odin, especially if you intend to flash a 3rd party rom. also any time you flash a sbl.bin or boot.bin can be a dangerous situation. bad flashes that break the boot loaders aren't common but it causes enough "omg i bricked" threads to keep me from recommending it. there is a odin one click with a 3 button fix, if you use that once it will be fixed untill you flash a rom with odin that changes the bootloaders again. im not sure if there is a .tar stock rom for odin without the bootloader but that would be a good idea if there isn't.
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Do you have a suggestion for a stable rom? I don't want to get to the point where I've got it working and throw a terrible third party on it. I'm just looking for device speed and controll over all apps, especially bloatware.
all of the available roms are stable. to be honest TiBu will remove bloat if you want it to.
Try them all and see which one you like. Pretty much all of the custom roms are better than stock. If you like to stay near stock but run more optimized, see Cognition. Otherwise see which one you like more. It's not a hard process if you read up on it.
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Do you have a suggestion for a stable rom? I don't want to get to the point where I've got it working and throw a terrible third party on it. I'm just looking for device speed and controll over all apps, especially bloatware.
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it is hard to go wrong with cognition which is a stock rom with some mods and bloat removed and tethering enabled, that will have the proper kernel and modem for the captivate which for me has great call quality, also the disadvantages of not having hsupa are overblown.
there is also andromeda which is the rom from the armani captivate and is well polished and complete, has some of the more useful samsung apps. this can be used with a 2.2.1 kernel ported from the i9000 for a slight speed boost (shows in benchmarks, may not be detectable in user experience) this has hsupa and is designed for the captivate
i9000 ports are newer 2.2.1 versions and all of the features work now so you may want a newer firmware version from one of those..
there are many 2.2.1 i9000 roms that are fully functional. that is more a matter of feature set and theme preference it is hard to say one is better than the other. id say for stable the speedmod kernel is about the best on an i9000 port, for experimenting with overclock or undervolt i hear that the kernel with paragon is awesome.
now it is odd that you say you flashed a different version of 2.2 but cant get into recovery, was that in odin? can you get download without adb commands?
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im not sure if there is a .tar stock rom for odin without the bootloader but that would be a good idea if there isn't.
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Use this method to flash back to stock. Supposed to be much safer that doesn't mess with the bootloader files. I have been using it for about 3 weeks now to flash back to stock. You CAN however still use the one click odin to master clear once you have flashed back to stock.
Back on topic... I would flash back to 2.1 using the above method and master clear to start fresh with this issue. Once that is done look for mobiletechvideo's 3 button fix video on youtube. But even if you have 3 button issues the Galaxy S one click root program should still get you into recovery. It doesn't always succeed in copying the update.zip file to the internal SD card but you can do that manually and just use the program solely to get into recovery. Make sure you have USB debugging on. After the stock flash and master clear it is off by default and samsung kies is on. You might want to invest in a Jig also since you have 3 button issues, it may save you hide someday.
As far as a good rom goes. Really all the 2.2.1 roms are pretty stable and fast. I'm currently using Continuum 4 with the paragon kernel and it floats and sips battery. If you like the stock look you can use cognition. If you like the green themed gingerbread look you can use Phoenix, Serendipity, Firefly, or Paragon which is my personal fav but hasn't been updated in a month.
Anyways good luck. I'm sure you'll figure it out.
oops, got double posted somehow
Thanks for all your advice and help. I finally got it rooted.
I've tried Cognition 4.3 and Paragon, both of which I liked. I like the appearance of Paragon, but the optimization just doesn't seem to be there. Cognition is great for customization, but I the appearance is just to 'stockish' for me, if that makes sense. Something in between would be nice. (Ideas?)
I plan to try Phoenix Unleashed, but i can't get it to download.
The reason why the programs are having a hard time seeing your cappy is because you need the Serial COM driver available only by installing Samsumg's software: Kies Mini... don't run the program just install it. Once you do this Odin and the Wonder Root program can see the phone. I had this issue.
Okay ... I have the Samsung Droid Charge and I'm quite comfortable flashing ROMS/Kernels/CWM Odin etc.
My wife has my old original Verizon Moto Droid (stock) and it is starting to act up a little. I'm thinking of flashing a ROM onto it to update things and see if it acts any better.
Like I said; I am comfortable using Odin and CWM on my Charge. What's different with the Droid? What will I need to accomplish the tasks? Is there an Original stock ROM available I can revert back to if things don't work out or she doesn't like it?
It looks like there's a Windows based app instead of Odin? I am running Win7-64 bit on my desktop.
Any pointers getting me headed in the right direction would be greatly appreciated.
MERRY CHRISTMAS !!
Steve
Edit: Understand this is my wife's phone. I need to know what I am doing before I attempt it .... I screw up her phone and it ain't gonna be a Merry Christmas around the Chopstix household ... ~;-p
You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
I just Flashed Cyanogen Mod 7.1.0 on my stock OG droid and it rocks. Some pointers that I couldn't find in the rest of the forums:
Like mentioned above, you have to use superoneclick 1.7 (or revert back to 1.6 if the frk76 -the latest update- has put it self on the phone)
I used "mybackup root" (free in the market) to back up my apps and data (messages, call logs, pictures, and music). Worked great.
I logged into my google account to back up contacts, calendar, etc. Also worked great.
Here is the part that everyone has a problem with: Rom Manager.
The stock ClockworkMod Recovery (2.5.0.1) in Rom Manager does not work for the OG Droid. I was able to get it to work though by going to "All ClockworkMod Recoveries" at the bottom on the Rom Manager screen and flash ClockworkMod Recovery (3.1.0.2).
After that it was smooth sailing. Remember to perform a Nandroid Back up, do a factory reset/wipe data, and what ever else the ROM you are installing suggests you do. I had to do a recovery a couple of times figuring out that SPRecovery won't work for Flashing new ROMS.
Hope it works and Merry Christmas!!!
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You could use superoneclick v 1.7 to root it, you can install cwm recovery on it and flash a rom, I would reccomend project elite for its great stability. If anything ever goes wrong you can sbf back to stock
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sbf back to stock ... could you expand on that? I don't know what it is. The Motorolas are obviously quite different than the samsungs when doing this stuff ...
Edit: I am having trouble finding the links for downloading the superoneclick, CWM and the ROM. Odin isn't used on this phone? What will I use to install CWM? Project Elite sounds like the one I would want. Stability is key above advanced tools and eye candy. It's for my wife and it will be used as a phone and messaging only pretty much. Maybe a few pictures. I would want the market and all apps she might want to be still accessible.
sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
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sbf back to stock= making a Nandroid backup and recovering it in case there is a problem with your ROM install. Did you do that when you flashed Odin onto your Charge? As long as you have your stock ROM backed up, you can go back to it at any time. This can all be accomplished with CWM.
As far as I can tell, Odin is for Samsung devices only. If this is incorrect, someone please set me straight.
CWM is a utility inside the "ROM Manager" app, which is available in the Market.
Here is the Superoneclick Thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
I'm just getting started in the custom romming thing, so I couldn't recommend a good bare bones ROM. Good luck in your research!
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No I haven't used nandroid even though some on Charges do. Odin isn't something you install on your phone. It is a computer based program that you use as an interface between the computer and phone to flash 'tar' files to your phone. ROMS will come in a file format with a .tar.md5 file extension and you use Odin to flash them. There are complete stock 'Odin' ROMS out there that you can use to flash your phone back to stock. This is the fail-safe route I have used when learning to flash that saved me from a few bricked phones. I am leery of flashing her Droid without having the same abilities available to me. A nandroid backup isn't going to do any good if the phone pukes half way through a flash and gets bricked. Or am I incorrect in that statement?
I've seen mention of a windows based app here that I assumed was something akin to Odin. Is there a fail-safe fall back to a stock rom for this phone should you need to recover from a bricked state? I'd hate to flash the wife's phone without knowing going in that I have the ability to recover from a bad flash.
CWM is stand alone on the Charge. You can install it with Odin or other methods such as adb (which I am not familiar with). But getting it through an app is fine too. I would assume there are then zip files available for updating to a more recent version of cwm after a version is on the phone. CWM is also embedded into many ROMs available so that when you flash a ROM via Odin, CWM is on the phone when you boot.
What is the button sequence for entering recovery on the Droid?
Power Key + X on the keyboard.
I assume you have a physical keyboard on this droid.
Don't let these guys scare you off. If you can flash your charge then you should have no problem with an og Droid . I just fixed my sister inlaws the other day . it took me 20 min. Here's a guide anyone could follow . Root Droid 1 - regardless of OS version (driod forums . net ) (I'm not allowed to post the link for some reason) And also I would recommend project elite or cyan 7, both work great.