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Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!
Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well
Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.
tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?
If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager
Absolutely it does there!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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I'm completely stock right now with the new update H7 and new to this flashing and rooting stuff. I've been reading everything and seems yall got all this down to just clicking one button and the program does the rest.
So before i try this everyone says backup backup backup soo that leads to...
1. Is there anyway to back up my phone like it is now since i haven't rooted. Just in case something goes wrong
Or
2. is the only option i have is to do the one click root thing and back up the rom then try to flash the 2.2 ?
and
3. If something goes wrong and 2.2 doesn't flash right..could i just go into recovery mode and click reinstall packages and be back to the h7 (if i don't root to back up)? or does that recovery option get deleted/overwritten when i try to flash 2.2 with odin one click?
thanks for any help
You don't really have to back up your phone. It is up to you if you have important info, games etc that you want to keep. Lots of times games were either purchased from the market so they will be attached to your profile. Use appbrain to sync your market as well. Otherwise there really is no way to do a backup unless you are rooted.
so basically i'll have to root to back up the phone at its current state? ...i'm not really worried about having to reinstall everything i've only bought beautiful widget so far but i think froyo flash deletes everything anyways right? but i just want to be able to go back to stock in case something goes wrong and the flash doesn't work or say the phone screws up and i need the warranty.
If the flash goes wrong can i go back to recover mode and hit the reinstall and will it reinstall the h7 i have now back to the phone or will that recovery option be deleted when you try to flash the 2.2?
In rom manager you have the option to back up your phone in its current state. If you get boot loops or continuous force closes you would need to use odin to flash back and do root again to load rom manager. Then you would be able to load your backup.
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ok thanks man, ...one more thing does the one click root/unroot work just fine with the 2.1-update1 right? the h7 firmware wont make a difference when trying to root?
That should have no issues with 2.1.
My experience with JH7 to 2.2 became a huge issue when I used Master Clear....
I could not for the life of me get the phone into Recovery or Download mode using the three button press or any other combo of USB battery pulls and button presses.....ended up biting the bullet and using the SDK method which turned out to work flawlessly.......after hours of searching, googling, reading and experimenting.....
I now have two Captivates in Stock froyo mode.
I have a captivate i896 and i ran into some problem flashing cognition onto my phone. So now all I can do is use odin to flash the stock i897 rom onto my device.
The problem with this is and the cognition roms are that I have to mobile data connection (but i have voice) on these roms. I cant access 2g/3g data, does anyone know how to fix this?
But my main question is how to restore the stock i896 rom back onto my device.
When I use rom manager to try to flash the stock rom found on this page (hxxp://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Samsung_Galaxy_S/SGH-I896) it just doesnt work. Maybe im going something wrong, but I cant seem to get it to work.
That file is not a rom, its a backup that you need to restore with rom manager. Copy it to your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/rogers_stock directory and restore it with rom manager.
If you want the actual rom get this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BD2EF4WF
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That file is not a rom, its a backup that you need to restore with rom manager. Copy it to your sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/rogers_stock directory and restore it with rom manager.
If you want the actual rom get this http://www.megaupload.com/?d=BD2EF4WF
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thanks so much
Ok so i tried flashing this rom
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=03X7E4UW
which is suppose to be the stock rogers captivate rom with rom manager.
However when i do so, after selecting the .zip file in cwm it gets up to "installing update..." with a empty status bar at the bottom.
I left it there for about 30 minutes and it didnt change.
Can anyone help me get back to stock i896!
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Can anyone help me get back to stock i896!
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Read my post above, you need copy the images to the sdcard and restore them, not install the zip file.
I'm really interested to know if those backups and stock roms actually restore you to stock. The first phone I had got soft bricked when I tried to restore the backups I had made from by own phone. So if this works for anyone I'd be really interested to hear about it
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You could also try using Heimdall, new Open-Source Flashing Software and this dump generated from stock Rogers phone.
I haven't seen any reports of tests on Captivate yet, but it seems to work well on other Galaxies. Check Heimdall thread for more info, and if it works well for you, please report to this thread. Good luck!
I have recently flashed the JVS firmware from samsung firmware, and then followed that up with this CF-Root-XX_OXA_JVS-v4.1-CWM3RFS, flashing via the PDA section in ODIN. My phone has been working perfectly for a few days, no problems at all, until right now when I've gone to restart the phone.. I was having troubles with the market, and I turned my phone off mid-download of an app.. I'm pretty sure it was mid-download and not mid-installation of it..
However, when I turn my phone back on, it'll show the Galaxy S I9000 screen, then go to the next screen with the glowing S, however after that, it just gives a quick, short vibration, and seems to turn off, then do it all over again..
What does this mean? Is there a way I can get out of it without re-flashing the entire firmware? I am still able to get into download mode, but I don't want to lose messages that I have saved on my phone..
Any help is greatly appreciated..
Denno
Ok, so I let the phone go for a while (around 10 minutes), of the screens cycling through as mentioned above, but now it seems to have actually found a way into the phone, and has now loaded up properly.. However, I'm still interested in what the problem could be on the phone??
are u using new market app?
its happened to me once and i reflashed whole firmware starting from 2.1 to 2.3.5 lol just to avoid sh*t like that
When I had 2.2 on there, I had the new market app, however after flashing 2.3.5, it had the old market, so I was downloading apps from the old market at the time..
What do you mean you re-flashed whole firmware from 2.1?
Anyone else have any ideas?
Try to wipe factory reset and wipe cache or try to flash rom again
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Could be a corruption in the bootloader, if it happens again i would reflash. Otherwise just leave it i guess, maybe it was a one off
It happens pretty much all the time now.. I have reflashed the firmware a couple of times.. And it still seems to happen. What would wiping the cache remove? Will I lose any settings or anything that I have on the phone? I have been restoring backups made using titanium, however just apps and data, not system settings..
If it's the bootloader, is there any way of fixing that?
Thanks
Ah that could be the problem. Sometimes when you restore backup they can conflict and thus cause issues like this...
Try only return the data, that works for me. Get app list from the market and after a backup move to external sd. Format internal sd card. Then do an Odin flash with repartition checked. This is designed to get you back to factory state, so you will loose everything. Make sure your backups are not on your internal sd when you format. Also before you flash i think its a good idea to put a copy of your nandroid backup into the internal sd. Or just use a nandroid backup from when you phone was working fine.
Deleting cache does not delete your settings usually, however when deleting dalvick cache it can take up to 30 mins (max i think) to start you phone, but usually its 5/10 mins.
Yes bootloader can be fixed just find a flashable bootloader with a rom or the directions given. Use search for this
Ok thanks for the tips Talon.. Firstly, this nandroid backup that I keep hearing about.. What exactly is that? Is that the backup that I do through Clockwork Mod Recovery? I'm also unsure how to return just the data to apps? I had a look at Titanium Backup, and the only data recovery option is for system data.. Everything else I think I can handle..
Thanks
Yes nandroid backup is the backup through CWM. You should always do one BEFORE you flash anything on your phone. And keep them in a safe place and leave one in your internal sd card.
You should use titanium backup to backup up a single app at a time, not batch. This way you'll have more files and can choose which apps you want to return, and if you only want to return the data. (I have always done it this way, so i dont know if you can pick the apps you want to return if you do backup via batch.). Use the other app i suggested to keep the market links, so you download the app from market first then you install the data once its there.
I suggest you don't return any apps at first see how it goes, then add either a couple or one at a time, again only the app data. (Once you backuo the app individually, flash then, TB, backup/restore press on the app, restore, then pick data only...) If you go from froyo to GB i think you cant do it)
Thank you very much for your reply Talon. I am currently on JVS, and plan to re-flash this exact same firmware, which is the stock firmware, nothing custom..
As for what you've written, it's going to take me a few reads before I can get my head around it, but I just wanted to say thankyou for a quick and detailed reply. I think I might just bite the bullet and figure out which apps I actually use, and just work with them for now..
I'll post back soon hopefully with results.
After getting very frustrated with the phone, I've finally re-flashed back to a seemingly stock situation. Phone is running great, and all problems seem to be gone. Slowly re-downloading apps from the market as I feel that I need them, so I hopefully won't get any interference from the old backups I had..
One more question, how do you make your backups? If you say you don't use the batch mode in Titanium? I can't see any other way that's as easy..
Thanks for your help Talon.
As i said before, backup/restore click on the app you want to back up, and click backup. When you want to restore it, back to the menu, click on the app, click restore, then pick data only longer but safer
Change the location of TB to your exsd if you haven't already, then go to setting find, and it will make it default location
Ahk.. Sounds very time consuming.. lol..
Phone is running like a champ now . Thanks
First off don't shoot me. I am interested in getting Gingerbread on my Captivate or another good rom. I have been on the forum for a few years but have never done amything to my phone until now. I just rooted it and installed Rom Manager and Titanium backup. I have been reading so many threads that my head is spinning. There are alot of different roms available but I have no idea of which to use. Can someone please point me in the right direction to put Gingerbread on my phone? I have had this phone for over a year and am ready for a change without having to buy a new phone. I have never flashed a phone before but I have built my own computer, so I am not a total newbe and am not affraid to try something new.
My phone:
Firmware 2.2
I897UCKB1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
Build Froyo.UCKB1
Rooted
Rom Manager
Titanium Backup
Bang!
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Bang!
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Figures another Texan would shoot me. Good thing I am wearing my bullet proof vest today.
Thanks!
Lol, its cool man....any of the ops in each rom are very detailed in how to flash. Designgears have a great Odin oneclick to stock that's a must have in case something get borked. The Fasty GB roms are my favorite choice. Any of the KH3 roms wont disappoint. Make sure you use the correct bootloaders too. Happy flashing!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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Not difficult at all:
*download ODIN 1.81 on your pc
*download latest KI2 stock ginger rom from the dev forum
*back up your apps etc using titanium backup to external sd card
*perform factory reset on cappy
*open ODIN and place downloaded .tar file that u downloaded earlier in "PDA" section
*turn off phone and hold vol up&down while turning on to start download mode
*plug phone in usb cable hooked to computer
*say a small prayer, lol
*once connection is established, press start on ODIN
*when flash is completed phone will reset, u may unplug usb cable when u see the ATT screen on phone
*that's it, if your successful then u can perform root, which is done differently than 2.2, so be prepared, I can PM u or respond here to tell u how if your successful with the gingerbread flash.
Good luck, and remember, bootloaders will be flashed, so there is an outside chance to screw your phone, so proceed with caution.
If I use Titanium Backup then don't I need to be rooted in order to restore my apps and contacts?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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Duh! Read the OP stupid! (Schizophrenic humor) Ok. Remember CM7 might not have the best battery life but I have always seen it as the least risky way to get GB running on the Captivate because you're not flashing bootloaders that are different from what you already have with stock 2.2 . The ONLY time I ever hard bricked was when attempting to flash GB bootloaders over Froyo bootloaders. Just be careful.
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LBCaptivate said:
If I use Titanium Backup then don't I need to be rooted in order to restore my apps and contacts?
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You have to be rooted to restore apps using titanium, not for contacts though.
ou812bkewl said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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My Captivate is stock and rooted.
Titanium Backup requires root to backup or restore anything.
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You have to be rooted to restore apps using titanium, not for contacts though.
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I would be using Titanium to backup my contacts unless there is a better way. I have several groups in my contacts for work and personal ring tones for different groups. It would be a major pain to have to set them up again.
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I would be using Titanium to backup my contacts unless there is a better way. I have several groups in my contacts for work and personal ring tones for different groups. It would be a major pain to have to set them up again.
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What I have always done is to export my contacts to the external sd card by using "import/export" function in the contacts app, not sure if it would have a impact on all of your settings though because I have always used a simple setup, single ringtone for everyone in my contacts. Just be prepared in case something doesn't work as expected. I have no experience with using titanium to backup the contacts.
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What I have always done is to export my contacts to the external sd card by using "import/export" function in the contacts app, not sure if it would have a impact on all of your settings though because I have always used a simple setup, single ringtone for everyone in my contacts. Just be prepared in case something doesn't work as expected.
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Exporting the contacts is not an option since it will take a contact with multiple numbers and turn them into an indvidual one for each number. I have used AndroidSync Wifi to backup contacts and it seems to work pretty good. I have never used Titanium before so I am not sure how well it works with contacts.
The easiest way to back up your contacts is to save them to google. Lol. +1 on the KI2 rom, Flashed it a few days ago and it's amazing... I'm no longer tempted to cash in 80 hours of PTO to get the Galaxy SII tomorrow.
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The easiest way to back up your contacts is to save them to google. Lol. +1 on the KI2 rom, Flashed it a few days ago and it's amazing... I'm no longer tempted to cash in 80 hours of PTO to get the Galaxy SII tomorrow.
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Do you know which thread has the current information on KI2? There are a lot of different threads. Thanks!
Never mind. This is getting to confusing. Some say you need a kernel and some don't. Then there is the Flash clockworkmod Recovery. Is this the same thing that is in Rom Manager? Do I get the full version of Rom manager and flash with that? Do you use Odin? Do you flash to stock? I am already running 2.2 rooted.Threads are 500-1000 pages long, some have old information, ect.............where is the most current updated information????? CM7 nightly builds?? Do you flash everyday? Is there a stable build? Ect.........
KI2 original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282369
download link is in there, just stick the file in the pda slot in odin, put phone into download mode, and flash away... everything you need is in that file (bootloaders, kernel, etc).. it's the stock at&t leak, so it also has bloatware, but oh well.
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KI2 original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282369
download link is in there, just stick the file in the pda slot in odin, put phone into download mode, and flash away... everything you need is in that file (bootloaders, kernel, etc).. it's the stock at&t leak, so it also has bloatware, but oh well.
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^^^^^^
After you get stock 2.3.5 Root with Fugu Method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
In step 6. replace KF1 kernal with Boogs modified KI1 Kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242533
ClockWork Mod recovery with Boogs KI1/KI2 Kernel Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242533
Then you'll have KI2, Root, CWM Recovery, Init.d Support.
If you want extended power menu and crt animation follow with emunees [CWM][DEODEXED][ROOTED][ZIPALIGNED] I897UCKI2 [Android 2.3.5] here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283566
And the Ext menu and CRT Zip is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283075
This will give you the latest and greatest Closest to stock 2.3.5 ROM with CWM and Root. Im a nubby and I pulled it off. So anyone can do it.
Steve
I still have not flashed. Have been reading threads for hours and hours. So much information and so many Roms Here is what I would like, swipe, get all my contacts back in groups (important for work)and a good stable rom. Seems like each rom has its issues, GPS, download ability, speed of download, some media files not working, poor call quality, not getting text messages, ect......... I know that the developers don't like to recommend roms but with all the different roms and some threads being close to 1000 pages long, it is hard to tell what is considered stable and what is an alpha or beta and what is current. The information on my phone is below. Any help or suggestions to a few good roms with complete instructions would be appreciated. Is rom manager even an option for flashing?
I would understand if the mods close this thread but I am sure that I am not the only one overwhelmed by all this information. It is pretty amazing how many people contribute to the development of all the different Roms.
Thanks again for any help or guidance!