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A Brief Comparison of 7 ... Almost ALL TouchHD ROMs - FYI

It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, here is a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
Now you can check almost all Touch HD ROMs' features in this new spreadsheet:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pw0YkbV43nsX7HipwXN8YWQ
Thanks to:
frogjaw2, Tito, Fallen Spartan
ROMs include WM 6.1 and 6.5, WWE and other languages, Cooked ROM, heavy ROMs etc.
ROMs:
Heavy ROMs
Laurentius26 Touching HD
Black Pearl
Dutty's HD XTREME
Pzucchel
Davideuck
EnergyROM
Davideuck_V-4_HP
Windows Mobile 6.5
taiseer999
Miri
Davideuck
MaryOne
Karmba_a HD
Chinese ROM
Cooked ROMs
Black Dragon's ROM
Black Dragon's ROM
CHO HTC released by taiseer999
Starbase64 UC
M-Amine Silver
DIB Touch HD
Stage6
Black Pearl
Mago
Live HD
Torliss HD
Pyrana
BlackCook
LPHD
i-Style Blackstone
EPS Black Rose II
Lite ROMs
a Touch of HD
Pzucchel
Black Pearl
Barebone
Lite ROM
Uzeb_Ultimate
Don't forget to select different tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet.
Again, you can send private message or email to frogjaw2 if you'd like to contribute.
Updates from old to new:
[UPDATE 1]
bobsbbq is kind enought to share his work:
HTC_HD_ROM_Benchmarks_3_2009.zip
this is a cool and tech-savvy sheet full of ... (come on, download it and have a look )

A good start and I had the same idea but the problem is Forum rules state post with subjective material is a violation. By you stating folders are ugly to you it may not be to another person, therefore it is subjective.
Another suggestion is on the soft key menus state whether it is in only manila or system wide large menus.
I wish you luck in the thread remaining open.

bobsbbq said:
A good start and I had the same idea but the problem is Forum rules state post with subjective material is a violation. By you stating folders are ugly to you it may not be to another person, therefore it is subjective.
Another suggestion is on the soft key menus state whether it is in only manila or system wide large menus.
I wish you luck in the thread remaining open.
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Thanks for reminding. Sorry for my words. I've updated the spreadsheet.
And, if it states HTC large menu, it's all system wide.

It would be a disaster if this thread were to be closed - this is vital information for people new around here.
The only downside to things like this is that it is of course subjective, but that really isn't enough, in this case, to warrant closing the thread. This is a topic that I think about *every* time I see another release of a ROM, and frankly, I'm bloody sick of hard resetting my device just so I can try out the latest and greatest from people (currently poking around with the two 6.5 roms from Miri and Davideuch)
I really hope this thread stays open, and that the spreadsheet improves over time

In my opinion, there is a lot of non subjective information here.
Figures about speed would be really interesting, if this is somehow measurable.

resettarget said:
It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, I made a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=puhL_ng3RDqQ4KoAKOZeBcA
ROMs compared are:
. Energy
. Davideuck_V-4_HP
. Dutty
. Davideuck_V-7
. panosha Black Pearl
. Kwbr
. Uzeb
Please be noted:
. Latest versions I found are used.
. Only WWE Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs are compared. Really I don't like WM 6.5
. This comparison is by no means really completed. I compared only the features I'm interested in. For example, I don't think there is great difference amony different CE OS kernel version, so I didn't compare them.
Hope helpful.
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Funny I was actually talking to bobsbbq last week about doing a thread similar to this with comparisons between roms I have tested including performance outputs etc
You beat me to it. If I can help in anything let me know

Just a note Dutty's icons are not customized, those are new HTC icons in the Start Menu. Dutty's roms are always the closest roms to Classic/ Stock Roms i've found.
Also Opera is included in Dutty's v2.6, Manila is not classic its the newest HTC build v2 (unless i don't understand what you mean by classic)

good comparison! well done.
there is one more feature i personaly find useful, is the facebook link. If "My Contact card" and contacts are linked with facebook. I am not sure if this feature is completely independent or if it is always in, when push internet is integrated.
I am sure that facebook link works in Dutty ROM, but is no integrated in Energy ROM.

qpasatio said:
In my opinion, there is a lot of non subjective information here.
Figures about speed would be really interesting, if this is somehow measurable.
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I agree... measurable specs would be more interesting... I know that Dutty for example publishes a lot of measurements of his ROMs on his site...

nice work
I like the spread sheet I was thinking about doing that, great job man

3g compatable
Thanks for the comparisions - great job. Another important inclusion in your charts could be whether the rom supports 3g.
I have installed several cooked roms from different people and have noticed that some do not support the 850 band I require for 3g coverage.
The latest roms I installed were Davidueks V4 and Duttys 2.6. Both very good roms and each has it advantages / disadvantages but I have stayed with Dutty as V4 does not enable the 3g which I require.

thanks for the spreadsheet.. might also be good to add in whether it is a GSM or 3G ROM as the Energy rom is gsm. cheers man!

go ahead
nice to have this kind of comparison. spare some extra flashing. would be nice to extend with more technical details like size of rom after flashing or figures of benchmarks etc. thanks for your great starting idea. i'm back to see your spreadsheet. i hope it will be migrated to stickyes soon when more people think it valuable.

Here is a spreadsheet I started on
resettarget said:
It's glad to see there are so many kind guys are making ROMs for Touch HD. But for an end use it is too time-consuming to flash all of these great ROMs to pick a proper one for him/her.
To assistant selecing a proper ROM for you, I made a simple/brief comparison of 7 Touch HD ROMs here (Google docs):
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=puhL_ng3RDqQ4KoAKOZeBcA
ROMs compared are:
. Energy
. Davideuck_V-4_HP
. Dutty
. Davideuck_V-7
. panosha Black Pearl
. Kwbr
. Uzeb
Please be noted:
. Latest versions I found are used.
. Only WWE Windows Mobile 6.1 ROMs are compared. Really I don't like WM 6.5
. This comparison is by no means really completed. I compared only the features I'm interested in. For example, I don't think there is great difference amony different CE OS kernel version, so I didn't compare them.
Hope helpful.
[UPDATED:]
I'm not a native-english speaker so by no means I'd like to be subjective. The word in western culture/english is a little difficult for me to fully understand.
I don't mean to attack or depreciate any ROM author who is thankful and deserve respect. Well the title had better to be something like 'cheat sheet' or 'feature briefing' which looks more friendly. I'm not sure whether 'comparison' is, sort of, aggresive. (looks like thread author can't change the thread's title ?)
How about sharing the doc with volunteers who'd like to update it?
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Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share

bobsbbq said:
Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share
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Excellent spreadsheet bobsbbq. Glad you shared!

Excellent......
Nice work people....hope we can keep it alive....

bobsbbq said:
Here you go. A spreadsheet I started on. Graphs look good to the eye. I hope it helps you. I like to share
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That's exactly what I had in mind... Awesome!

nice work
nice work, there should be more information included though.

naqvi514 said:
nice work, there should be more information included though.
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Can't just say that, otherwise pointless post. What other information would you like?...... and maybe we can add this to spreadsheets

Fallen Spartan said:
Can't just say that, otherwise pointless post. What other information would you like?...... and maybe we can add this to spreadsheets
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well something like
memory/storage consumtions etc.
and whether the rom is based on new or old manila, as it makes lot of difference when it comes to compare the features.

the how to?

hi, i just got my x1 a few weeks back and im looking to upgrade the rom and what i realized is it involves many more steps than what was required for my universal before?
i upgraded the official rom via the SD card method and that worked like a charm. But what i dont know is which rom can i upgrade to on my x1... as it seems that they are all based on R2... R3... etc?
so what im lookin for is a fast and simple answer on which roms i can upgrade on my x1. The method is not a problem. The rom selection is. And plus, which is the best rom you would recommend?
thankx

The best way is, imho:
Check the threads here. In each, you can find a description of the ROM,
a discussion about possible bugs and solutions, and recommendations from
the xda community.
Basically, you can flash any ROM you will find here. Some like the newest,
more "unofficial" builds of WinMo 6.5 with the Windows start menu at the
bottom, others prefer the "official" build with the menu at the top.
Again others prefer either a Windows only ROM, some Manila 2.1, some the
"latest" version 2.5, these are from the "Leo".
Almost the same applies to the radio/rilphone version.
If you have some spare time, make your own trials - start maybe with the
ROMs from agent_47, NRGZ28, spikegotti, itje, MrRusch... and soon, you
will have your very own, personal preferred solution.

thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.

mazlano27 said:
thanks. another question? what is "manila"? unfimiliar with this term.
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Manila is the user interface by HTC, which seems to be a favorite of many
X1 users here at xda - there are many ROMs which are cooked with it.
Version 2.5 is taken from the upcoming Leo model, while 2.1 is from other
models, such as Rhodium and Topaz - those are the closest to the X1 from
hardware specifications. One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of
some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
Manila brings eye candy, but also finger friendliness to WinMo devices. You
can easily recognize it with the big digital clock at the home screen.

tictac0566 said:
(...) One kind of a "disadvantage" in the perception of some users in the 2.5 version is missing landscape support for virtually all
functions, while 2.1 is fully landscape.
(...)
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I'd like to point out that the 2.5 version seems to be a little heavy for the X1.
The manila 2.1 from Rhodium\Topaz have a nice look & feel to them. Also battery life is VERY good with these versions (3 to 6 days on a single charge, depending on how you use your X1). Manila 2.1 does not have the Facebook and Twitter tabs, and has different Favorite and Home screen layouts.
My advise would be to go with a manila 2.1 ROM. My personal favorit is the FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47. It's loaded with lots of extra programs, and runs very stabile.
Excelent everyday use!

FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?

mazlano27 said:
FireStorm Rhodium\TOPAZ by Agent_47? will give that a try? the htc leo is the HD 2 yes? and thanks for the clarification on the manila. been a great help. Is there much difference in the manila and the touch flo 3d cab? the cab seems to be stable too... and im not a big fan of wm6.5. ive never tried it before... how much free ram is there after the update?
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Manila is actually a nickname of what was called TouchFlo3D earlier, and to
complete the confusion, you will maybe read "Sense" sometimes, too. In fact,
that is again the same. Most people here use "Manila" and versions 2.1/2.5.
To install Manila with a cab is definitely quite a fast procedure, but the real
performance of your device will not be as fast as possible - even if stable.
The free RAM is different from ROM to ROM, lower WinMo "pure" ones are
somewhat around 30% memory usage, the lowest Manila ROMs are at
around 35-40% with 2.1, 45-55% with Manila 2.5 - but then again, this is
different from ROM to ROM.
In the sum, maybe a Touch X 10.8.2 or agent´s "Photon" ROM (standard)
could be a good point to start.
Once your are happy, the chef most probably will not be unhappy if you
take care of his/her donation fund...
Happy flashing!

thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?

mazlano27 said:
thanks buddy uve been a great help. one last question, i have just upgraded my rom using the micro sd method. if i wanted to go back to my wm 6.1 official R3A rom which was released a lil over a week back, could i use that .nbh file to downgrade as if upgrading?
what im trying to ask is i just put the R3a rom file in my formatted sd card and load the phone in boot loader more and let the magic happen or a more complex process is required like backin up and restoring stock rom?
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I´ve seen your 2nd thread asking about speedy ROMs, and it seems you´re
already happily flashing...
Here´s the link for what to do in warranty/service needs...

yes happily flashing indeed. thanks buddy. just played around and got the hang of it. i understand it now.

ROM Confusion

Merry Christmas all!
I'm not exactly a newbie when it comes to Windows Mobile or flashing ROMS, but thus far I have stuck to "official" versions. Now I'm looking to get into some of the custom ROMS I keep reading about.
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
Thanks for any help!

Long story short:
This specific forum (the current one that you posted your thread in) is for various GSM ROMs that include WM 6.5 and WM 6.5.x. Basically, you can tell a good bit by reading the title of the threads, but clicking on the thread will give you more insight as to what apps and customization are included.
Also note:
Windows Mobile 21xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5
Windows Mobile 28xxx = Windows Mobile 6.5.x (x=1, 2, 3, etc)
For example, if you look at this thread's title:
|R|6.5.3|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Leo" 28014/21885 |Dec 17| ★ Sense 2.5/ MaxManila /Dusk
|R|6.5.3|ROM|WWE| ★ EnergyROM "Phoenix 2" 28014/21885 ★Dec 17★ Sense 2.1/Titanium ★
You will see that there is a Windows Mobile 6.5 version (21885) and a Windows Mobile 6.5.3 version (28014). You can also see Sense 2.5 and 2.1 named (Sense 2.5 is the newer Touch Flo 3D interface used on the HD2). Sense 2.1 is what you probably use now and it is more stable. Sense 2.5 still has a little ways to go (screen rotation being one of them). Many ROMs include downloads that include one or both sense versions (2.1 or 2.5).
If you click on the threads, you'll get more info as can be seen below:
You will find TWO core versions of my ROM.
* The 21885 Build is from the OEM COM2 Tree and is the most reliable and bug free release. I recommend you start with this first!
And...
* The 28014 Build that's the latest in the 6.5.3 series with the Start/Close buttons at the bottom. These builds are not as stable but they reflect the latest cutting edge technology from Microsoft.
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IMissPalmOS said:
I hope I don't offend anyone by saying this, but the ROM development forum is a confusing disorganized mess for someone like me who is just catching up now. The WIKI led me to a link (that hasn't been updated since September) where it looks like someone started to organize everything, but apparently gave up.
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I agree with you, and I found it very very confusing at first when I came here. However, over a short period of time I could start to see what the more popular ROMs were (based on the number of people giving feedback about them etc), and started to get an idea on what they were about based on reading the latest replies (most of the threads are way too big to read all the way through !);
Is there a current list somewhere of all the different ROMS available, what OS version they are based on, and a short description of them?
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I don't think so, but the previous reply has given some useful tips. Normally in the first few posts for each ROM you'll find some sort of basic description and screenshots. Don't be afraid to just jump into the water and start flashing though, you can easily change which ROM you're running if you don't like it. Stick to 6.5 (not 6.5.3) and Manila/Sense 2.1 if you want to stay with the "safer" (most stable) options initially.

Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.

ai6908 said:
Keep reading! Keep flashing!!! Good luck.
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yep +1.
no reason for a new thread on this man... flash till you find whats good for you.

ROMS

Hi guys i was wondering what would the most best stable fastest rom for the CDMA Diamond be. I have tried multiple. The two best i think were MightyRom and EnergyRom(currenty using). I just need ur opinion if you know some other nice ones. I rate roms by aesthetics and looks but obviously also speed and stability. Thanks
MightyRom - http://www.mightyrom.com make sure you goto diamond section
EnergyRom - http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=74084

I like the Pegasus . . .
rom Touchflo 2.1 basic. I tried a few roms including Mightyrom 6 and Energy Rom, but seem to be sticking with Pegasus. It is has more recent versions of WM and Touchflo than Mighty Rom and and at least a more recent WM then Energy. It is stable and everything works. There is also a Pegasus titanium rom with an enhanced version of titanium that is also worth checking out. I checked it out, but Titanium, even nicely tweaked, is not as good as Touchflo, in my opinion at least.

IMHO, I like manila Rom. It is much more easy to use. So the Energy rom is my pref.

tssi said:
IMHO, I like manila Rom. It is much more easy to use. So the Energy rom is my pref.
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OMJ's ROM is also very good too http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=94369

Thanks guys. LOL, this thread is a month old. Before I started cooking. I am almost done a really nice Manila Sense 2.5 2012 Rom!

I like the fearless rom

HTC CDMA Diamond with MikROM -WM6.5&6.5.x Sence2.5-build 2012 Light&Standard version
IMHO, I like Sense 2.5 Roms for my HTC CDMA Diamond. I will Highly recommend MikROMs, it has the latest sys and the perfect rom it is always his next ROM (he never stop to cook new ROMs with every fix that appear in the WM6.5 and WM6.5.x sys. Also you can choose between Light or Standard Version. His ROMs are always as stable as what is best in that week, next week you can surprise with a hole new ROM with new fixes that doesn't exit before. So go and get a look at AmiKAM MikROMs LINK HERE.

sabrosolatino said:
IMHO, I like Sense 2.5 Roms for my HTC CDMA Diamond. I will Highly recommend MikROMs, it has the latest sys and the perfect rom it is always his next ROM (he never stop to cook new ROMs with every fix that appear in the WM6.5 and WM6.5.x sys. Also you can choose between Light or Standard Version. His ROMs are always as stable as what is best in that week, next week you can surprise with a hole new ROM with new fixes that doesn't exit before. So go and get a look at AmiKAM MikROMs LINK HERE.
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Very good ROM, good battery life, aesthetically pleasing and fully functional AND more than enough free storage. Could use a little performance improvement, but hey this is the diamond its running on so no complaints
Thanks for the ref.

Recommended ROM for X1

Hi, I have searched, but it is so much information and I have a bit of trouble reading such large chunks of texts, so I hope it's okay that I ask here.
I want a ROM that looks alot like the original 6.5.
I have "SE XPERIA X1 - ROM: SEX1 R5.07 pure, steepy converting to X2"
however that one is really slow, and it seems to use up 51% in my taskmanager, all the time...
Any ideas ppl?
I dont want that "Manila" thing or anything like it...
Thanks!

Jaxxer86 said:
Hi, I have searched, but it is so much information and I have a bit of trouble reading such large chunks of texts, so I hope it's okay that I ask here.
I want a ROM that looks alot like the original 6.5.
I have "SE XPERIA X1 - ROM: SEX1 R5.07 pure, steepy converting to X2"
however that one is really slow, and it seems to use up 51% in my taskmanager, all the time...
Any ideas ppl?
I dont want that "Manila" thing or anything like it...
Thanks!
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hi,you should download unoff 1.5 version.this rom is very stable and speedy with like to x2 windows mobile 6.5.

Jaxxer86 said:
Hi, I have searched, but it is so much information and I have a bit of trouble reading such large chunks of texts, so I hope it's okay that I ask here.
I want a ROM that looks alot like the original 6.5.
I have "SE XPERIA X1 - ROM: SEX1 R5.07 pure, steepy converting to X2"
however that one is really slow, and it seems to use up 51% in my taskmanager, all the time...
Any ideas ppl?
I dont want that "Manila" thing or anything like it...
Thanks!
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you are asking for opinions, that means if people answer they will allways advice on roms suiting their own usage behaviour
for you in order to find what you are looking for you will have to dl some roms, test and compare them yourself, only that way wil you get for you are looking for (or coming closer to that)
and anything else would be useless for you
apart from that: you shouldn't open threads for q&a, forum is well used as it is and redundant threads don't help keeping it in order, thx

Okej, Thanks...
But what I am looking for is something very similar to the rom i am using now (SE XPERIA X1 - ROM: SEX1 R5.07 pure, steepy converting to X2) But faster... Sometimes it uses 51% as it is now

Jaxxer86 said:
Okej, Thanks...
But what I am looking for is something very similar to the rom i am using now (SE XPERIA X1 - ROM: SEX1 R5.07 pure, steepy converting to X2) But faster... Sometimes it uses 51% as it is now
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I know, you already mentioned that in #1
it will help to narrow down your search then

Google williyung 826x WM 6.5.5 rom. It's mostly pure 6.5.5 with a few HTC add ons, and it's basically a perfect rom - fast, finger friendly, decent battery, etc.

6.1 rom nX1i v1.04 fast, stable as hell
6.5 rom 10.9.1 rom for eyecandy, stable
vietdoan20062006

Another one of these?????

Hey i used the same rom your using before switching to
(Christian's Rom - Dutch\WWE wm 6.5.3 build 28223 - R3AA Based - "Clean", "Full" And "Special" Version)
There are various versions which i think are both fast and attractive.
also each build has a clean version that doesnt have alot of programs that you might not find useful and a full version that comes with a bunch of programs that the creator found usefull, thats if you dont feel like looking for a bunch of cabs.
also the change logs are very straight forward
right now im using the latest version thats posted. its speedy with a good panel manager and very touch friendly, try it out