[Q] Alternative OS - Motorola Droid and Milestone General

Hello,
I loved the fact that the HTC HD2 have the possibility of changing the OS, and can change for many OSes. Then I want to know if there is any of these hacks for the Milestone.
Best Regards,
Nathan Paulino Campos

As far as I know, Moto's locked bootload makes it pretty much impossible to do this at this point. If it didn't have that we'd all be running CM6 haha..
I might be wrong, just my 2 cents.

I doubt it cuz the main reason the hd2 has multiple os's to choose from is because of putting a dead os on it from the start...which was windows 6-6.5 with no more updates being pushed. Youre best bet is to just find a great stable rom and keep it that way
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max_3000 said:
As far as I know, Moto's locked bootload makes it pretty much impossible to do this at this point. If it didn't have that we'd all be running CM6 haha..
I might be wrong, just my 2 cents.
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in fact we have cm6!! XD

89luca89 said:
in fact we have cm6!! XD
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Yeah but it's not 'real' CM6 with full kernel features and such. Not at all ready for everyday use yet! Though hopefully it will change soon.

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Windows Mobile 6.5 + Sense UI

Is it possible to get Windows Mobile 6.5 + Sense UI (HTC HD2) on out phone. With the upcoming release on T-Mobile, I'm kinda jealous. I can't upgrade until March/June next year and it sucks. I need help. it might be a stupid question but how come WinMo can boot Android and it can't be vice versa? Help? Thanks =]
G1BRICKED said:
Is it possible to get Windows Mobile 6.5 + Sense UI (HTC HD2) on out phone. With the upcoming release on T-Mobile, I'm kinda jealous. I can't upgrade until March/June next year and it sucks. I need help. it might be a stupid question but how come WinMo can boot Android and it can't be vice versa? Help? Thanks =]
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I'm guessing since Android is Linux they can port it to many devices (like computers and other phones that was NEVER meant to run android) while WinBlows is closed source and probably needs specific hardware requirements to run.
I don't think I'm right but that is just my 2 cents (or 4 cents. I'm not sure)
UberMario said:
I'm guessing since Android is Linux they can port it to many devices (like computers and other phones that was NEVER meant to run android) while WinBlows is closed source and probably needs specific hardware requirements to run.
I don't think I'm right but that is just my 2 cents (or 4 cents. I'm not sure)
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Iss all good homie. That sucks though. Would've been great if we could though. Anyway we couold theme something to make it look like that?
G1BRICKED said:
Anyway we couold theme something to make it look like that?
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Two words, Hero Rom.
G1BRICKED said:
Iss all good homie. That sucks though. Would've been great if we could though. Anyway we couold theme something to make it look like that?
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What's wrong with Android-based Hero roms?
SeEsAw12 said:
What's wrong with Android-based Hero roms?
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they aren't even close to being the same as the win-mo sense experience. the only thing they have in common is that they both have flip clocks and are shiny
hiddengopher said:
they aren't even close to being the same as the win-mo sense experience. the only thing they have in common is that they both have flip clocks and are shiny
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Well I didn't ask how they're different, I just asked what's wrong with them?

[Q] Make vogue android snappier

Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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odex the build, only drawback is that you cant theme it after that.
that and a light overclock are both pretty good
Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??
rvgsd said:
Thanks for the reply! I am really new here. Can you point me towards an odexing guide??
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forum search for odex donut
lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.
incubus26jc said:
lol, make vogue android snappier? hahahahahahahahahahaha
sorry, that was a good laugh. I think thats what we have all be trying to acomplish since day 1.
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look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff
thoughtlesskyle said:
look what the cat drug in , really miss having you around jeff
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i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?
incubus26jc said:
i miss being around... dont miss the phone. I think ill make a rls17 for the hell of it.
What is the latest source and kernel that works the best at the moment?
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if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port
thoughtlesskyle said:
if you want all languages i can pm you a recent compile of it (like mid November) as far as for kernels i dont know im still using a really old one, the last one dzo did of 2.6.25 before he started the new port
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is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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newer google apps is the biggest thing added since, they have been decently stable as of late too. TBH i havent even really been doing much on my vogue lately either.
i do have a theme for hero you and myn would be proud of though
Speeding up Android
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.
Code+Blood said:
If you free up some memory your vogue will be faster. I suggest uninstalling all the apps you don't use / can do without. You can also try the Fat Free build of android. I hear that it is faster.
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it is mostly since it uses all the principles covered here its odex'd it has the fat cleaved from it, and via rogue tools you can overclock it
Yeah, I tried the Fat-Free build and its super fast..! DZO Fresh Froyo is already amazing, and Fat-Free froyo makes it even faster. The life that is put into this phone is unbelievable, and the support too! I remember when I used to use my vogue with wm-6.1 !
rvgsd said:
Hi,
I was wondering if HTC Vogue/Touch users can share some tips to make Vogue faster and snappier.
rvgsd
(Fresh Froyo - NAND.)
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ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.
fixxxer2008 said:
ummm if you want a snappy android phone get rid of the vogue. not trolling here but your dealing with a 4 year old outdated phone. buy a real up to date android device. props to the devs here but im shocked people still own this device. even xda put it in legacy mode.
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some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better
thoughtlesskyle said:
some people cant upgrade from it or they will lose their plan, or they are people like me who's plans dont have upgrade eligiblity luckily i was able to track down a hero for cheap. tbh it could handle donut awesomely froyo def has some stability issues maybe gingerbread will be better
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im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.
fixxxer2008 said:
im not dissing the vogue as i owned a few of them but yeah if you get the hero you will notice a huge speed increase. even more so with a evo or epic. i know people want to keep their cheap legacy plans but sooner or later you will have no choice but to upgrade and pay more. 4g will be standard someday.
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i wish i could go to the evo but sadly i havent found an evo cheap enough yet
My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...
know.patience said:
My phone is pretty snappy and stable considering it's a bit long in the tooth. I recommend the latest .32 kernel, Scooter's CM rls4c, and a mild overclock to 490 mhz. I don't keep a bunch of crapware apps and widgets on my phone and I recently trimmed down to three desktop screens.
It is my sincere hope that my carrier offers me a decent plan when I do bite the bullet and upgrade to a new android device. It's going to cost me an additional $20-30/mo to get a plan comparable to what I currently have and I really wanted a decent device with a hardware keyboard. Either the Epic or the EVO Shift will be in my pocket next...
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yea keyboards are nice but htc phones with keyboards always suffer from poor design flaws, like the touch pro and the high failure rate of that (i even had problems with mine before i sold it), the G2 and it basicly falling open when turned upside down, i love htc to death but i dont trust anything they have with a keyboard at all
incubus26jc said:
is it worth me doing? Has there been any improvements since my last release?
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The Cyanogen mod has been ported
but no, not that many changes.
Here are the kernels for 2.6.32:
http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.n...44fac6b0542c9e4d62be3ebd5a3fb1fc4830b;hb=HEAD
And i would love it if you made another release

How awesome would this be on our milestones!

http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/18/video-droid-incredible-actually-running-honeycomb/
WOW! What if this was possible on our milestones. Sorry to be hasty, but is this possible on our stones?
Would be great, but ...
Though I really like my Milestone but now I'm feeded with Motrola and all the things it represent knowing that this particular device brought them back a live.
Keep updating roms for Milestone is a good news for Moto and I hate that.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA App
alijs said:
Would be great, but ...
Though I really like my Milestone but now I'm feeded with Motrola and all the things it represent knowing that this particular device brought them back a live.
Keep updating roms for Milestone is a good news for Moto and I hate that.
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Personally, I think all the roms are good only for making motorola look bad. We have gingerbreag before they've even managed to bring out froyo. It's a joke, and personally, my respect for motorola is gone. I will continue happily installing custom roms onto my milestone, and motorola can go stall for another year.
mohitrocks said:
http://www.droid-life.com/2011/02/18/video-droid-incredible-actually-running-honeycomb/
WOW! What if this was possible on our milestones. Sorry to be hasty, but is this possible on our stones?
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Motorola is very slow on updates. I disappoint...
that's so true moto is very slow on update
looks great but i think the missing kernel (which we cant update that easily due to locked bootloader on milestone) would prevent us from using honeycomb.
we COULD use something with a froyo-kernel that LOOKS(!) like honeycomb and has most of its features, maybe.
but -just like "Gingerbread"/2.3- we will probably NEVER get the REAL thing... only something that looks and behaves almost the same as the original (like Gingerbread).
yeah, just in case some people didn´t know that - what we have is NOT real Gingerbread.
That would be sick!!

HTC Incredible S’ Bootloader And Recovery Are Signed

bad news
read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...s-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/
RIP HTC
Complete Fail. TT
That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me
JeckyllHavok said:
That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me
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Exactly.
I don't even understand why they would do this...do they not realize that there is a pretty decent amount of customers who buy their phones based on the fact they're completely open to customization?
I feel like this would hurt them more than it could ever help them.
It's coming home, it's coming, my Blackberry's coming home, it's coming home.
Sorry Android, sorry Google, but for me, RIM is better.
redank said:
bad news
read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...s-bootloader-and-recovery-are-signed-as-well/
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Saw this as soon as I woke up this morning. Bad news indeed. Very disappointing.
Just one more reason not to get the Incredible S
derhannes1983 said:
It's coming home, it's coming, my Blackberry's coming home, it's coming home.
Sorry Android, sorry Google, but for me, RIM is better.
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I've been thinking the same thing.
There goes the only developer-friendly phone maker..
I guess that means we want see any root access/development/custom roms for the Incredible S.
Not neccessarily, as I've already posted in the rooting thread, this was already known about and hasn't stopped us yet. Please be patient and stop spreading FUD
Does this mean we will never see csutom roms, or does this mean we'll have to wait until it's cracked?
JeckyllHavok said:
That was one of the reasons i liked HTC, but signed recoverys are no go. If they keep this tactic, no more htc for me
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I Fully agree. It's a pitty HTC wants in on the control over my device game...
I also hate that they want to control our devices. My next device probably wont be an HTC anymore also, however i do like the fooling arround with my phone. id rather would have it rooted quite easily, but i dont hate it they require some manual actions, since it saves a lot of people from having malware on there phones, but hell.... this one is over the top.
Probably have the IS for the next 2 years, so got enough time to play with it haha.
@DaanJordaan
having a motorola milestone with a signature-locked bootloader i can say, that custom roms ARE available... the key-difference is, that the signature-checking bootloader only boots signed kernels. everything else can be replaced with custom-made files. as an exaple: CyanogenMod ist available for the milestone, but without the enhanced kernel.
which in essence means:
custom roms: yes
custom kernels: no
i don't know how big the difference betweet the moto-bootloader and the htc-bootloader is. but if it's somehow similar, custom roms without custom-kernels will work. which indeed sucks... but that's still better than no custom roms at all... let's just hope htc produces very well coded kernels...
I dont think its "HTC" who wants to control rhe device, i've heard its the carriers that are asking for the bootloader to be singed, so they dont have to replace a brick device someone tried ro hack,
Just be thankfull they only signed it and not encrypted it like motorola.
Sent from my Defy
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I dont think its "HTC" who wants to control rhe device, i've heard its the carriers that are asking for the bootloader to be singed, so they dont have to replace a brick device someone tried ro hack,
Just be thankfull they only signed it and not encrypted it like motorola.
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That makes sense (no pun intended).
It's still not good news for the developer community though.
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That makes sense (no pun intended).
It's still not good news for the developer community though.
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No it doesn't. Maybe in the US it does. I can buy a OEM Incredible S with no association with any carrier by paying full price, but seems like even these factory HTC devices are bootloader signed.
syl0n said:
No it doesn't. Maybe in the US it does. I can buy a OEM Incredible S with no association with any carrier by paying full price, but seems like even these factory HTC devices are bootloader signed.
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Its probably easier for HTC to just push all the incredible s's through the same production line.
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Don't stress on this. ~1hour after it was identified on the thunderbolt, it was bypassed.
Don't go returning phones or quitting android over this.
I hope it will get rooted, I have just sold my HTC Desire, and am looking either to get the Nexus S or this. I have every confidence in the Dev guys to crack it.
HTC really have done something silly, the only reason the Desire sold so well was because it could get rooted so easily and allowed people to do anything they liked to it!
If this info is confirmed then the LG Optimus 2X is the best new phone!
I like HTC but I am not a fanboy fanatic to limit Android to HTC devices

Another question.

I was wondering if there is a way to determine what kernel is on the phone? Like a way to check it...? I know I can check the kernel version...would that be how to determine? I must sound dumb...wow...lol.
Your phone info screen should show it.
I thought so. I had an HTC 8925 before this, so the Android world is all new to me. I know basic things and have already successfully flashed two phones with custom ROMs as well as flashed my own captivate back to stock. My brother also gave me his old Motorola Droid and I use it as a way of learning as well. I know the hardware on both is different but it's still a good way of learning I feel. I even helped a friend root and flash Cyanogen onto his HTC Inspire. He recently went back to stock without the bloatware...which reminds me. Does a ROM of the stock without bloatware exist for the Captivate? I've searched but haven't had much luck...
Also, forgot to mention I had Myn's warm donut on that HTC. It ran well enough but the battery issues were never worked out for me.
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Does a ROM of the stock without bloatware exist for the Captivate? I've searched but haven't had much luck...
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Pinnacle is a great ROM. Its pretty close to stock, really smooth, really good battery life, and not a lot of flashy stuff, just really reliable. No bloatware at all... except it isn't being developed on anymore. There's one called Illumination (not the exact name but its close enough you'll find it) and it looks good and is being developed still. Its actually based off of Pinnacle too. I don't have any personal experience with it though.
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You mean Illuminance?
...it having all those updates is mildly confusing too...
hawke213x said:
You mean Illuminance?
...it having all those updates is mildly confusing too...
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Try it ....its really close to stock and very smooth.
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You mean Illuminance?
...it having all those updates is mildly confusing too...
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That's the one. I'll probably flash it pretty soon.
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Reamer09 said:
That's the one. I'll probably flash it pretty soon.
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You will like it if you are coming from Pinnacle, as they are really close...
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Pinnacle is a great ROM. Its pretty close to stock, really smooth, really good battery life, and not a lot of flashy stuff, just really reliable. No bloatware at all... except it isn't being developed on anymore. There's one called Illumination (not the exact name but its close enough you'll find it) and it looks good and is being developed still. Its actually based off of Pinnacle too. I don't have any personal experience with it though.
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I flashed it and it is definitely very, very nice. Thank you for the recommendation.
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I flashed it and it is definitely very, very nice. Thank you for the recommendation.
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No problem, I'm glad it's working well for you. I have so much stuff installed on this ROM I'm probably not flashing anything till something truly official drops (if ever).

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