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Hello,
I loved the fact that the HTC HD2 have the possibility of changing the OS, and can change for many OSes. Then I want to know if there is any of these hacks for the Milestone.
Best Regards,
Nathan Paulino Campos
As far as I know, Moto's locked bootload makes it pretty much impossible to do this at this point. If it didn't have that we'd all be running CM6 haha..
I might be wrong, just my 2 cents.
I doubt it cuz the main reason the hd2 has multiple os's to choose from is because of putting a dead os on it from the start...which was windows 6-6.5 with no more updates being pushed. Youre best bet is to just find a great stable rom and keep it that way
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As far as I know, Moto's locked bootload makes it pretty much impossible to do this at this point. If it didn't have that we'd all be running CM6 haha..
I might be wrong, just my 2 cents.
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in fact we have cm6!! XD
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in fact we have cm6!! XD
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Yeah but it's not 'real' CM6 with full kernel features and such. Not at all ready for everyday use yet! Though hopefully it will change soon.
Honestly, I'm not sure what all the *****in' for an XT860 forum is all about. Do we really need a lot of space to discuss all the dev that doesn't work on our phones? I'm sure one thread is enough. That way, maybe all the d3 users can get some peace from us constantly asking about compatibility.
Maybe, as a public service, all the d3 devs could stop in here after they've produced the next great ROM, and just let us know (without laughing) that NO, this will NOT work with your phone.
Ah...I feel better now.
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Honestly, I'm not sure what all the *****in' for an XT860 forum is all about. Do we really need a lot of space to discuss all the dev that doesn't work on our phones? I'm sure one thread is enough. That way, maybe all the d3 users can get some peace from us constantly asking about compatibility.
Maybe, as a public service, all the d3 devs could stop in here after they've produced the next great ROM, and just let us know (without laughing) that NO, this will NOT work with your phone.
Ah...I feel better now.
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Venting feels great eh? Haha I'm sorry I cant relate to your problems (XT862 user) But I wish you luck on future ROM's being developed!
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Oh well. The thing is that Bell should just come with an update so devs can start. Wonder if Bell is waiting for ICS to update instead of updating now and then having to update again for ICS???
But yeah where is the freaking update. Maybe some Canadian people know more about it ????
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Venting feels great eh? Haha I'm sorry I cant relate to your problems (XT862 user) But I wish you luck on future ROM's being developed!
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...it just gets frustrating. The D3, if you include the leaked 5.7.894, is now two updates ahead of us...and we're stuck on what...er...windows 3.1?
There's also a level of frustration with myself. After all, with alternate launchers, UOT kitchen, root, debloating, its not like its a bad phone..I guess I just have the patience level of the average 3 year old.
Just to be clear, once we get an update then someone can get an sbf from that? Or am I totally out to lunch...remember, I'm the guy who has a flashing clock on his vcr. VCR....video cassette recorder? Never mind kiddies.
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...it just gets frustrating. The D3, if you include the leaked 5.7.894, is now two updates ahead of us...and we're stuck on what...er...windows 3.1?
There's also a level of frustration with myself. After all, with alternate launchers, UOT kitchen, root, debloating, its not like its a bad phone..I guess I just have the patience level of the average 3 year old.
Just to be clear, once we get an update then someone can get an sbf from that? Or am I totally out to lunch...remember, I'm the guy who has a flashing clock on his vcr. VCR....video cassette recorder? Never mind kiddies.
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It still has some major glitches in my opinion that Motorola should have already fixed for us. I asked bell and was told the updates come from the manufacturer. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola, despite the 24 hour for a response auto reply I got. While ROMs would be nice, the cell standby, slow camera and buggy keyboard are all issues that Motorola should have addressed already imho
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It still has some major glitches in my opinion that Motorola should have already fixed for us. I asked bell and was told the updates come from the manufacturer. I'm still waiting to hear back from Motorola, despite the 24 hour for a response auto reply I got. While ROMs would be nice, the cell standby, slow camera and buggy keyboard are all issues that Motorola should have addressed already imho
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Well I once e-mailed motorola canada with questions about the XT860 - haven't heard from them since (it's been weeks). So don't get your hopes up
I completely agree with you Endroid. I am also curious about one other thing... Lets say I wanted my phone in french, how would I be able to convert it over, or vice versa? Maybe we could get an SBF out of it???
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I completely agree with you Endroid. I am also curious about one other thing... Lets say I wanted my phone in french, how would I be able to convert it over, or vice versa? Maybe we could get an SBF out of it???
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Settings>language and keyboard>select locale.
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Weird bug I just noticed... I did that and changed to French, back to English, then to Spanish, then to English and I noticed that my message icon for my Exchange account changed colours...
Yeah my gf has the XT860 and she's not very happy with it. Part of that is because it's more complicated than her 3GS, but part of that is also because there are a number of bugs and it's laggy at times. Tons of bloatware.
At least if we had some way of loading our own ROMs I could fix some of that for her.
I know that my stock AT&T Captivate was a piece of crap. It wasn't until I installed Cyanogen Mod that I had something useful.
I truly apologize for the inconvenience that you are experiencing at this time. What issues are you experiencing with the unit? Unfortunately, there is not an update scheduled to be released at this time and we do not have any information as to when one will become available. You can check our site for future updates. I truly understand your frustration and I apologize again for the inconvenience. If you need further assistance please contact Customer Care at the following number (800) 461-4575. Thank you for your continued patience.
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/CA-EN/Home
Sincerely, Latasha Customer By Web Form (Marc Laferriere) 11/06/2011 07:40 PM I am the owner of a XT860 4G, which i am beginning to regret. The phone has numerous issues and bugs, which i'm sure Motorola is aware of, as pretty much all of these issues were fixed in the recent update to the XT862 (5.6.890). I have previously contacted Morotola about this and was told that there currently is no update and there is no information pertaining to one. Now i see that there is yet another update coming for the XT862(an unofficial leak, however that means that one will be released soon) yet still nothing for the XT860. The lack of support for this device is offensive to me. When i purchase a device i expect that it will be supported for at least a few years. As it stands i would not purchase nor recommend Motorola products. So again i ask, is an update for the XT860 forthcoming, or should i be looking for a device that will actually see some support.
Thanking you in advance Marc
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I just want a fix for the battery life, 12 hours is unacceptable ...
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I just want a fix for the battery life, 12 hours is unacceptable ...
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Hell I don't even get that. Granted I could make some changes to improve my battery life such as turning off background data but then what's the point of having a smartphone. 6-10 depending on my usage
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Great post, Endoroid. As doom and gloom as the lettter appears, its still possible that the letter is simply holding to company policy of not releasing info until its ready to be released. That's what I'm gonna tell myself anyway.
Its been said before somewhere, but I'll re-iterate, never ever buy a country specific phone like this...unless you are happy with the stock experience.
I'm very happy I didn't actually pay for this baby, having won it in one of Mobile Syrups giveaways.
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Endroid,
Can you go to Bell and have them talk to Motorola regarding these issues? Unfortunately I'm not on their service so I don't have as much leverage as someone like you would...
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Hell I don't even get that. Granted I could make some changes to improve my battery life such as turning off background data but then what's the point of having a smartphone. 6-10 depending on my usage
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Wow guys I'm sorry. My droid 3 can get almost 3 days if I use it sparingly.. I wish you guys could use our system updates..
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Endroid,
Can you go to Bell and have them talk to Motorola regarding these issues? Unfortunately I'm not on their service so I don't have as much leverage as someone like you would...
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I'm out of country the next week but when I return I plan on also contacting bell and escalating with Motorola. I have been into a bell store but the sales reps are pretty useless for this.
I mean honestly, given the similarities between the 2 phones I don't understand why we wouldn't receive updates around the same time as d3. It should be easy enough for Motorola to modify the update to apply to our device
Grrrr
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Yeah yeah, Rub it in lol.
Well sad news for the Bell users for sure.
Huh, we don't even recovery to get back to stock if things go wrong.
I heard Motorola issues updates based on phone popularity/user base. If this is true, it will be awhile before we see any updates. XT860 has the same bugs, if not even more like D3 with original release firmware. D3 is now getting second OTA while we have not even heard about first one to address these obvious bugs. If we look back at Milestone 2, to compare to Droid 2 Global which took 8 months to get GB upgrade, M2 has not yet received it.
Things don't look good with XT860 in this aspect for sure.
Lets hope Motorola will prove me wrong!
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I haven't seen any ROM updates or development news in some time. I was planning on getting the Nexus anyways, but I at least wanted the phone to have life after I passed it on.
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I've been waiting and hoping. I like my bionic a lot.
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We have liberty, that's enough for me. Liberty was all I ran (I tried others but always went back) on my Droid X, with my thunderbolt I only ran BAMF roms. I would like to see more customizable options like power control widget in the notification pull down.
Unfoetinitaly I agree. Having had the evo 4G and the thunderbolt, Dev for this phone seems dead.
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I disagree. Liberty was released just a few weeks ago, the the30ry dev has released two new ROMS, one of which was just updated yesterday, and eclipse will have a 5.7.893 update here soon. In addition, there are devs working to get ICS working on the bionic, and a CM7 project (although I don't know if that's in the works any longer as they have announced CM9 for January). I will say that few of these devs seem to be active on XDA any more, they're all on droidforums and rootzwiki. But they're out there.
It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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It sounds more like the OP is abandoning the Bionic, not the devs.
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And I never tried to deny it. However, I'm passing on the phone to my girlfriend, and I didn't want her to be SOL when it came to the best part of owning an Android device.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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I think this is just part of the "downtime" between releases. We have an OTA on the way that may or may not have additional compared to whats leaked so a lot of devs IMO are waiting for that OTA to come out and then will update their Roms accordingly.
In addition a lot of 3rd party Roms use CM as a base so until CM is finished being ported to the Bionic, this front will probably remain dead. Once we see CM7 done and CM9 starting, i think you'll start to see a bunch of new roms pop up.
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You're probably right.
Surely the parade of better more exciting devices isn't helping.
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I agree I feel UN loved
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Hmm.....
We're supposed to get the OTA and ICS....No???
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I feel the same way about the Photon, but we are making progress too.
Have you guys been able to unlock your bootloaders without loosing LTE? If so, you are at an advantage, but how many of you have developers with this phone?
There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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I understand, I am going through the same thing with my Photon, on Sprint, the Now Network.
The devs definitely haven't given up, the Th3ory T3am is working on getting CM9 to boot and a couple of devs over at DF are going through the source code to see if they can unlock the bootloader right now.
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There is a locked bootloader. The excellent devs have done most of what can be done without that being unlocked. They are not lazy, they just did so well that there is nothing to change until the bootloader is unlocked or motor/Verizon push ics.
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A locked BL isn't as big of a hindrance as people think ... really all it stops you from doing is running a custom kernel. You can still make custom roms and over/underclock. Sure it's not ideal bc you have to deal with 2nd init to run CM but otherwise there is still a lot of flexibility. Liberty, Th3ory and eclipse are perfect testaments to that.
it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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it isn't as long as Motorola continues to create roms with kernals for the newest version of android and only as long as it is rootable. The min one of those two things stop happaning we will need kernel access to continue on
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That's a good point. I would hope that at that point they would at least have the decency to unlock our BL... but who.knows. I'm holding out hope for project cheesecake ... yum I can smell the creamy goodness...
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The Razr came out, all hyped up, and now half of what you see on the forums is talking about how it's not that much different than the Bionic, and it clearly becomes a subjective issue, mainly based on form factor and pentile rgbw/lcd (bionic) vs pentile rgbg/samoled (razr).
The Gnex will likely be similar once it comes out and people realize that its not that much better either. It has pure ICS, but I bet we'll be seeing some of that by the time the Gnex is released anyway - at least some roms based on that source anyway.
Droid 4 is literally a Razr with a kb.
Rezound is great as well, but nothing tremendously better than these others.
My point is this... All of these new phones have something positive and something negative about them. I don't see any good reason why developers would stop supporting the bionic, as it is technically in the same league as all of these other phones. I don't think I'm being too much of an idealist ... at least that's my hope
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I haven't seen much on roms lately. All the one's out here aren't stable either. We only have a couple fully working roms and none of them are being update. If I get a new phone any suggestions on what it should be to take advantage of the most fully functional roms?
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I found Liberty ROM to be quite stable, and while I don't want to jinx it, I've been running Maverick 4.0 for a day or so and it seems great!
If the bootloader ever gets unlocked, it will open up more kernel dev options (for the genius' out there!) which could open up more/better ROM possibilities for us (fingers crossed).
I don't think I'll be upgrading to another phone until a new physical keyboard model comes out. And hopefully it's quad-core with at least a gig of RAM. (512mb on my XT860 has been killing me) ;D
Unfortunately I dont think the kernel will ever be unlocked on our phones... that's Motorola for you.
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But now it's Google...we may get lucky
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Ever since they switched to the nightlies and stopped posting new beta's on here It slowed down, IMO.
I'm happy with Mavrom 4.0 I guess, but would've loved to see hashcode etc. focussing on getting video on ICS, rather than adding features etc. Other ROM makers could've tried that. Who cares about advanced settings when you can't even record a video?
Google is going to probably sell Motorola hardware section to Huawei and keep the core just as legal requirements. Also, they said they are not going to interfere with Motorola decisions on their products. Google only bought Motorola for their parents, nothing more, nothing less.
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Exactly ... but I don't want this to be a Motorola bash... even tho its easy to do... lol... so for now I would like to see a list of roms that are fully functional. I'm on liberty and I keep going back to that just because everything works... what other roms are in this category. And I agree that a extra features aren't important till a fully or close to fully completely working roms is in place. What's the point of all the bells and whistles if you can't even use the basic functions of a phone.. don't get me wrong now. I love trying new roms but it becomes a downer when you get one that has cool extras but you end up going back to a working rom for taking video or watching Netflix .... even if your on safestrap to go back to that functional rom. And the other question is if I change phones what would be a good phone to go to just for rom purposes ...
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The problem iswith the hardware codes and drivers. Every phone probably has this problem with ics. They add more features cause this is almost impossible. The attic has a really good developer support. I would definitely go back yo it if I could but I had nothing but problems with mine. Anyone know how to make a rom? I wanna get into it.
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The attic has a really good developer support.
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I assume you mean Atrix instead of attic?
The real issue to all of the problems is the bootloader. When you can customize the kernel to fit your rom you pretty much take care of any problems. Not to say there aren't roms with custom kernels that don't have issues .... there are but thats due to other things. Programming or incompatibly issues. All of our roms are franken roms held together by bungee cords and duct tape. The devs do a great job with what they have at hand so when time comes for them to build a rom on a phone with a unlocked bootloader, I don't blame them.. much more freedom and the ability to create awesome roms the way they want. All the stable roms we have are just built around the original with some cleaning up and a splash of color... I wonder what it feels like to know when you pick a rom no matter what it is and you know its going to work and the only reason you don't stick with it is because you don't like the way it looks or it doesn't have a extra you want... how sweet.
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Yeah... it was good when i had my Desire Z. All kinds of roms for that thing!
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Hello everyone,
I'm new here,
Starting this thread so that beginners and new users (like me) can know about what people have done with their monsters and what they are capable of!
Tell me about your favorite top 10 apps and must haves!
Reason for choosing Droid 3?
I'd also like to know if some serious droidians can provide links on how to achieve what they have!
Would also like if they can tell users like me what should be done with their Droid 3 if they just took it out of the box!
I have a Motorola Droid 3 Verizon [XT862 (its obvious but still)],
5.6.890.xt862.verizon.en.us (I think its stock rom, but I could be wrong)
Using it in India.
And thats all I know about it.
Its not even rooted.
My reason for choosing Droid 3:
I wanted something solid, which felt like a monster in my hand, not like the new phones being thin and light as a paper, I needed something heavy! The large screen, 8 mp cam, 16+16 Gb memory are just add-ons to the list,
the main reason being the 5 row physical keyboard. I did not find any other phone with k/b with such screen and cam. And Motorola is well known for being modded and customized!
Share anything and everything you can, it is always helpful to someone!
Tell us about different processes of flashing, about roms, latest updates and so on.
Very excited to hear from y'all!
Hope. to get some really interesting and helpful posts!
Don't forget to have fun while doing this and help as many people as you can
Thanks a lot.
Really?
Really guys,
no one?
I was hoping to get some really good feedback!
Kinda old phone! I got it because i wanted the original but went with the Droid Incredible for processor. So I saw the droid 3 and it looked just as good.
Phone is end of life. These discussions have been had many times before. People are waiting to upgrade to a better phone.
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Droid Incredible?
Isn't it a cdma phone? With 1Ghz processor?
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Oh, I see.
But buddy, this discussion is not only about the features of the phone but more about what can one do or should do if they just got it.
This phone is not available at the place I'm using it. Specs are incredible, except for the software update.
I do not see a single phone with a keyboard like this with such a screen over here.
Even though it is an old phone, I got it regardless of its lousy software update.
And therefore I wanted to know, what people are doing with their droid3 regarding software?
I wanted to know which rom are they using and what apps are must haves!
Thats all.
Thank you all for reading.
Rom toolbox, safestrap3, thats all i recommend for must have apps.
Run stock for a while, and then put on safestrap and see what roms you like.
You can also use the ubuntu install app in the market if you want a linux distribution, worked ok on my droid3.
If you like at&t or tmobile, use the radio hack to skip verizon.
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Okay so for your info: safestrap 3.0, Mavrom 4.5 on .906 base. Waiting for May for new phone upgrade!
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I just scored a d4 off ebay will be here in 7-13 days lol oh well..lest I can keep my unlimited data and cost less then doing the upgrade lol
ill still be here in the d3 forums though as my wife has a d3 so I keep it current plus I love you guys..
Right back at ya!
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We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
Allan Guigan said:
We do too!!
And guys, can any one of you confirm if I flash with any rom, would it affect my unlock?
Using it overseas.
Thanks a lot guys.
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you shouldn't loose unlock but if the rom wasn't dev'd for your specific device..ie..xt862,xt860 ect you might have to flash the proper radio and build prop