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[Q] Milestone vs Droid?

What is the difference or is it the same phone? I've been pondering this for a while now, but never ask the question.

if i had both i would tell you

ha ha... two different phones... got it

gotbst05 said:
What is the difference or is it the same phone? I've been pondering this for a while now, but never ask the question.
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The difference between the Droid and the Milestone is that the Droid has a slightly higher clock speed (600MHz compared to 550), but the biggest thing is that it has an unlocked bootloader. That enables the use of full custom ROMs, whereas the Milestone is quite limited due to its locked bootloader.

actually the main difference is that droid is CDMA (no sim card) as compared to european milestone (sim rad). so the difference is the radio used. AFAIK other hardware used is the same on both.
also the droid has unlocked bootloader as compared to locked milestone.
edit> and there was some type of qwerty keyboard on droid that wasn't on milestone I think - the flat keys version.

Offcourse milestone is worst as the Droid is already unlocked and 600Mhz instead of 550 in mIlestone

as said above. droid has other radio and unlocked bootloader.

Each device requires a different kernel, and each has different options / modules. For "identical" phones, it is surprising how much has to be changed in a rom to port from one to the other.

Multi touch support
Also i do believe the Droid (stock at least) did not come with multitouch suport, whereas the Milestone does come with it. Apart from that, all as been said.

Strange HTC One questions

I'm unable to find an HTC One with a microSD card slot... I'm on Verizon, and they only have the 32GB internal memory version, which isn't enough to fit my music and everything else. I did read on Wikipedia that they're in the Japan/China models, so if you know one way or another whether any US versions have it, I'd love to know.
Otherwise if I can get an unlocked/developer/Play edition to work with a Verizon SIM, I'd love to know how to do that too!
Also, I'm trying to find out if I can lower the resolution to 720p (pixels) to save battery (which brought me here to begin with). I haven't read in any reviews that it's possible, but back in the day I read of a setting in developer options to change the DPI (or PPI?) to change the resolution, but I'm not seeing that in my current phone's developer options (or not recognizing it).

dhinged said:
I'm unable to find an HTC One with a microSD card slot... I'm on Verizon, and they only have the 32GB internal memory version, which isn't enough to fit my music and everything else. I did read on Wikipedia that they're in the Japan/China models, so if you know one way or another whether any US versions have it, I'd love to know.
Otherwise if I can get an unlocked/developer/Play edition to work with a Verizon SIM, I'd love to know how to do that too!
Also, I'm trying to find out if I can lower the resolution to 720p (pixels) to save battery (which brought me here to begin with). I haven't read in any reviews that it's possible, but back in the day I read of a setting in developer options to change the DPI (or PPI?) to change the resolution, but I'm not seeing that in my current phone's developer options (or not recognizing it).
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there is no htc one version that have a sd card slot. Only the Japanese and Chinese variant (HTL22/HTC J One)
If you are going to use the phone with Verizon, then you can not use another phone variants, you must use the phone sold by verizon. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and uses CDMA variant of the Htc one. All other variant are GSM (unlocked htc one, dev edition etc)
Lowering the screen resolution doesnt make sense to me, there a lot of other ways you can save battery.

China / India dual SIM + card slot models have cdma but you need to verify network bandwidth
Other options HTC One m8 with card slot or a new version of m7 exclusive for Verizon HTC One Remix with card slot

alray said:
there is no htc one version that have a sd card slot. Only the Japanese and Chinese variant (HTL22/HTC J One)
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That sounds contradictory but I already mentioned that I saw there's a Japan/China version with a microSD card slot.
alray said:
If you are going to use the phone with Verizon, then you can not use another phone variants, you must use the phone sold by verizon. Verizon is a CDMA carrier and uses CDMA variant of the Htc one. All other variant are GSM (unlocked htc one, dev edition etc)
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OK, that's helpful, but I've seen specs that include "3G" with frequencies that match Verizon's CDMA and that also say "LTE" that match Verizon's frequencies, so I'm concerned that either the specs aren't completely accurate for the USA or that Verizon just hasn't certified any other version than the one on their site (though I can't tell if they sold the 64GB variant previously that I could find somewhere else).
alray said:
Lowering the screen resolution doesnt make sense to me, there a lot of other ways you can save battery.
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Lowering the screen resolution is an acceptable loss for the battery/CPU gain (considering I can barely tell the difference in my Moto X and Droid RAZR MAXX under normal usage and most phone screens look fine to me; I grew up with Asteroids and Super Mario Bros so I kind of have a love for pixels). Most other battery-saver tips include things I actually want to use.

dhinged said:
That sounds contradictory but I already mentioned that I saw there's a Japan/China version with a microSD card slot.
OK, that's helpful, but I've seen specs that include "3G" with frequencies that match Verizon's CDMA and that also say "LTE" that match Verizon's frequencies, so I'm concerned that either the specs aren't completely accurate for the USA or that Verizon just hasn't certified any other version than the one on their site (though I can't tell if they sold the 64GB variant previously that I could find somewhere else).
Lowering the screen resolution is an acceptable loss for the battery/CPU gain (considering I can barely tell the difference in my Moto X and Droid RAZR MAXX under normal usage and most phone screens look fine to me; I grew up with Asteroids and Super Mario Bros so I kind of have a love for pixels). Most other battery-saver tips include things I actually want to use.
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Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?

alray said:
Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?
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Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.

dhinged said:
Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.
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If verizon doesnt have a phone that fits your needs then check other carriers.

dhinged said:
Yah, I've been looking at other phones, and every one of them are missing some key thing I need; for instance, the HTC One looks perfect except that the 64GB version is not available on Verizon and it has no microSD card slot. The M8 is huge for my hands and has the headphone jack on the bottom which makes it difficult or impossible with docks; the Remix has less of a processor and battery than the Moto X; Verizon has less choice than the other carriers so this whole process is just difficult, which is why I'm asking how to config certain software things to get what I want.
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The Droid MaXX has most all the features you want and is on Android 4.4.4 already. Unfortunately this is no Root for it yet though

alray said:
Why not buying another phone with already a sd card slot and a 720p screen? Better to pay for something that fit your needs. You will pay for that 1080 display but you'll not use it. Maybe you should consider another model like the desire 601 or something similar...?
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We're going in circles on this. I've already described what I'm looking for and I haven't found it yet.

alray said:
If verizon doesnt have a phone that fits your needs then check other carriers.
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Yah, I know, like that hasn't occurred to me. Not exactly the easiest option, which is why I'm asking for software workarounds.
This is XDA after all, isn't it? I haven't seen one reply yet saying how to lower the resolution on any phone.

clsA said:
The Droid MaXX has most all the features you want and is on Android 4.4.4 already. Unfortunately this is no Root for it yet though
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Yes, I know, and Verizon only sells the 16GB version, and I already tried buying two 32GB versions online and they were stolen phones that couldn't be activated. Luckily I got my money back, but I'm not doing that again. Plus the Droid Maxx does not have convenient accessories.
It looks like the Moto X is going to by the keeper until I can figure out how to lower the resolution on the M8 to save battery, which I'm guessing requires root.

dhinged said:
Yes, I know, and Verizon only sells the 16GB version, and I already tried buying two 32GB versions online and they were stolen phones that couldn't be activated. Luckily I got my money back, but I'm not doing that again. Plus the Droid Maxx does not have convenient accessories.
It looks like the Moto X is going to by the keeper until I can figure out how to lower the resolution on the M8 to save battery, which I'm guessing requires root.
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I can tell you first hand the MotoX is nothing compared to a HTC One M7 their not in the same league. The only 2 phones I would consider over an M7 are the LG G2/G3 and a Nexus 5... Maybe a Note 3 if it's a really sweat deal

[Q] Moto Maxx stock rom on Droid Turbo...Is it possible?

Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
One of the LTE bands (13 vs 17):
Droid Turbo: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 13).
Moto Maxx: LTE 700 / 1700 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 (Bands 2, 3, 4, 7, 17).
And the screen types (though I think Super AMOLED and OLED screens are exactly the same):
Droid Turbo: Super AMOLED screen.
Moto Maxx: OLED screen.
So to sum it up, did I get it right or have I just waisted 3 minutes of your life...?
Thanks guys !

no, it cannot be done

Bobboman said:
no, it cannot be done
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Care to elaborate on your answer...?
Thanks !

No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.

i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader

Rotem_46 said:
Hi,
I live in Israel and about 3 weeks ago got a Droid Turbo from the US (its the 64GB Ballistic Nylon version).
Overall the phone works fine here, I think the reception is not the best comparing to my good old HTC One X but I will have to do more tests in that area.
Anyway, because the Moto Maxx is an international version of the Turbo I was wondering if it is possible to use the Moto Maxx stock rom on my Turbo?
The reasons I thought about it is because I really don't like the Verizon's softwares, partially because I have no use in them here and I don't like being forced to have softwares I didn't install myself
The second and main reason is because the Moto Maxx is an international version so I think it will be more compatible with my country's network requirements.
Do you guys think it can be done? I think both versions are identical so I can't think of any reason why it won't work.
According to GSMArena.com the only differences are:
Thanks guys !
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Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?

spinach.chin said:
Out of curiosity, why didn't you just buy a Maxx instead of the Turbo?
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Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...

r3pwn said:
No, it's not feasibly possible to install Moto Maxx software on a Turbo, especially without a bootloader unlock. With a bootloader unlock, it may be possible, but the Turbo doesn't even have root yet. As for your dislike of the Verizon apps, it's possible to "disable" (disabling them hides them as well) them. I can send you a guide link if you want.
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I meant after the Turbo will get root or bootloader unlocked of course, I guess I should have mentioned it before
About disabling the softwares, thanks for that but I have already done that
Bobboman said:
i would also like to point out that the two devices don't even share the same Cell Radios sou you could end up bricking your phone even with an unlocked bootloader
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What do you mean by different Cell Radios ? The only difference I saw was the LTE band (13 vs 17). I'm not even sure what that means but I can get LTE right now.
Thanks guys !

Rotem_46 said:
Well, I got the turbo for $530 brand new and the Maxx was over $700 so...
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Ahh, yeah I can see that!
Well, hopefully before long we'll have root and then you can get rid of all the stuff you don't want!

[Q] confusion about variants. moto x

Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?

The phone should say Dev Edition on the back cover. Verizon does use CDMA, but the phones are GSM capable for world use. Once you unlock the bootloader, yes you can install other ROMs, but you may lose some of the core Moto X features like active display and touchless controls that are only available via stock firmware.

rjcrystal199 said:
Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
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Verizon's LTE phones are SIM Unlocked and can be used with 3G/4G/LTE SIMS from GSM carriers. For example, I can put my T-Mobile USA SIM into my XT1060 Dev Edition for Verizon phone, and get T-Mobile service.
rjcrystal199 said:
other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?
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The XT1060 does use CDMA, GSM and LTE radios. Its radio code or modem files are different from the other variants (like XT1053, XT1058,etc). So as long as the custom rom you are flashing doesn't include radios, OR tells you how to get your stock radios working, you should be fine.
The Verizon Dev Edition DOES have the verizon logo on the back too. In other words, that may be a "stock" dev edition photo, rather than the actual phone you're buying.

Looking to get XT1095 or XT1097 or something else for AT&T

I have XT1053 (Moto X 2013 Developer Edition GSM) and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading on its forum, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK? Has all this been officially rectified?
Has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.