I've been trying to read as much as I could about loading custom roms, but I haven't found a guide that explains everything. I've gone through all the stickies but I haven't gotten a clear idea of flashing roms.
In the past, I've rooted my captivate and then downloaded the Titanium backup manager. But after wanting to go back to stock, my phone completely died using Odin to go back to JF6 and then doing an OTA update.
So before experimenting with my phone again, I want to be sure I know exactly what I'm doing. So is there a detailed guide on about using custom roms? Such as, what exactly is the update.zip file? When should I create a copy of it? What is Clockwork? If I want to revert back to stock, how do you go back to JH7 instead of JF6?
Not really, not for the level of detail you are looking for.
I'd recommend trying before you know everything . Just make sure make sure you have download mode working via the 3 button combo
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Update.zip is what android automatically uses in recovery mode - clockwork is an update.zip that leads you into a super cool recovery mode that lets u do more.
U don't really need to mess with it.
Just install ROM manager and it will handle it
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
dngen said:
Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
joeshmoe08 said:
Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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If you are going back to stock, disabling lagfix isn't necessary. Everything is completely overwritten. It's only necessary if you don't go back to stock and just upgrade instead.
I'm interested in this too - First Android device and being on a tiny bit of a learning curve...
Reading through the forums here, I see the popular safety first consensus seems to be Odin back to stock, then root/ROM Manager and on with the next ROM. Fair enough, I have no problem with that, but I'd like to know the reasoning?
So lets say I try to go from my current Cog 2.1.6 (voodoo disabled) to the latest Cognition 2.4.1 beta (or any other ROM) via ROM Manager. What disasters "will" befall me? What disasters "might" befall me? Why?
You may or may not get frequent crashes if you do not flash to stock first.
Just make sure you can get into download mode. Everything else will work out
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Whenever I flash custom ROMs I have several problems. One of them is random rebooting. This isn't the problem with the stock ROM. Another problem I have is not receiving messages. If I flash back to a stock ROM I receive tons of messages that I didn't get while I had the custom ROM installed. I have tried re flashing the custom ROMs several times. The question is has anyone had this problem, and how can I fix this?
my question to you is what custome roms are you flashing that is a start and then i can help
i will check when i wake up there had better be a list
lol.....nice shadow...hope they don't have to work today, or you sleep for quite a while!
gordon154 said:
Whenever I flash custom ROMs I have several problems. One of them is random rebooting. This isn't the problem with the stock ROM. Another problem I have is not receiving messages. If I flash back to a stock ROM I receive tons of messages that I didn't get while I had the custom ROM installed. I have tried re flashing the custom ROMs several times. The question is has anyone had this problem, and how can I fix this?
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Need to know what ROM's you are attempting to flash.
What version of phone do you have? Pull the battery and look at the white
label and tell me the build # of that phone. It's a 4 digit number (I.E. mine is 1008) If it is a 1008 - this is a known issue - and you'll need to test by going back to STOCK and seeing if the issue continues. If it does - you will need to warranty replace it.
The "tons of missing messages" means that the flash of the custom ROM didn't work right.
Best thing you can do to fix these issues - make sure you are installing the custom ROM correctly - make sure to follow the "chef/dev's" instructions before flashing the ROM.
Also.. if you go to the Q&A sticky it will point you to all sorts of different information - I would look at the "How to install a custom ROM" sticky in the dev section.
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Need to know what ROM's you are attempting to flash.
What version of phone do you have? Pull the battery and look at the white
label and tell me the build # of that phone. It's a 4 digit number (I.E. mine is 1008) If it is a 1008 - this is a known issue - and you'll need to test by going back to STOCK and seeing if the issue continues. If it does - you will need to warranty replace it.
The "tons of missing messages" means that the flash of the custom ROM didn't work right.
Best thing you can do to fix these issues - make sure you are installing the custom ROM correctly - make sure to follow the "chef/dev's" instructions before flashing the ROM.
Also.. if you go to the Q&A sticky it will point you to all sorts of different information - I would look at the "How to install a custom ROM" sticky in the dev section.
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My last IMEI numbers are 4486, and my build number is 1008.
I have been flashing Darky 7.01 up to 7.7 and perception. Before installing the ROMs I flash back to stock firmware and I do a master clear.
I have a hard time believing that the ROM is just flashing wrong because I have tried this around 10 different times. Each time I get a removed SIM error,
Which perception?
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Which perception?
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10,9.9, and 9.5.
Try running Assonance and see if you get the same issue.
And.. Build 1008's (my build btw) is known to have random shutdown issues.
Mine is very specific - when I fully charge my phone to 100% it won't stay up until the battery drains back down to around 85% then no more shutdowns.
Will need to warranty your phone for replacement if it is still doing this while stock. I'd recommend flash back to stock - DO NOT ROOT - just run the phone for a day or so with a full charge and see if it is still shutting down. If it is.. then you will need to have it replaced.
And I randomly get "no sim card found" errors with i9000 roms after a reboot. I just turn airplane mode on/off and all is good afterwards.
I don't seem to have any problems with stock firmware
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I'd like to flash to Cog 3.04 directly if possible without Odin'ing back to 2.1. Is it ok to flash directly to 3.04 and if so, what the best way to wipe everything first to start form as blank a state as possible? I'm without a windows PC right now...
Thanks!
hate to bump but if anyone can provide a quick answer... thx.
I flashed 3.04 over 2b8 without any problem.....
You can try that but no guarantee that it will work.you may run into problems and have to flash back to odin then you will be sol with out a computer
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You should be fine flashing from one version to another. If you enabled lagfix I'd disable that first, and to be on the safe side do a CWM backup, but other than that you should be fine. I've been flashing another ROM back and forth without going stock many times without issue.
You can go and flash custom ROMs on top of each other and it might work, but don't be surprised if you boot into Cog 3.04 and have to deal with a bunch of force closes or other weird behavior.
I ALWAYS recommend people flash back to stock and Master Clear/GSM Master Reset. That gives you a blank slate to work with. It takes less than 10 minutes, but some just believe that's too much work/time for them.
Your call.
I've never had an issue flashing updates on top of Cognition. I'm pretty sure as long as your lag fix is the same between versions then there should not be any problems.
I flashed serendipity 5.0 over 4.3 last night with no problems. I just disabled lagfix before I did.
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Thanks everyone for your helpful input.
Is it possible to master clear without going back to stock? I'd like for everything except the external sdcard to be cleared.
Okay first of all, I would like to apologize if this is being posted in the wrong forum, or if I am upsetting anybody by posting this. I have searched all over for a couple days trying to figure this out. This is my last resort, and I'm hoping you guys can help. All of your time and understanding is much appreciated!
So a little background. About a week ago, I rooted my AT&T Captivate 2.2(build number 1012 if that helps) using Superoneclick, and then flashed CM7.1 using clockworkmod. I was not satisfied with CM7.1(terrible battery for me, other various reasons). I then downloaded MIUI (not sure which version, the one available on the premium version of clockworkmod) and flashed it using clockworkmod. This started with the cm bootscreen, and then went to an MIUI bootscreen that played a little tune. The miui screen looped, and it would not go past this.
After rebooting and running into the same thing, I went to f\attempt to find a solution. I thought I backed up my rom, but it had been erased (issue with the external sd I think). I used an odin one click I found on here, but this odin one click brought me back to eclair 2.1, instead of 2.2. Up until now, I could get into both download and recovery mode using the three button method, and now I can't. I am not sure what to do exactly. I have read about getting it into download mode using adb, but I'm not sure if that would work in my situation, and I'm not too educated on adb or android sdk. I stayed up almost all night last night, and now have researched most of today, not making much progress.
Thanks again for your time!
Just to clarify have you used all button methods in order to try to get into download mode. Seems as though flashing bootloaders may have f'ed up you combos. I have a couple suggestions. I'll edit my post as I find the urls to post for you
Stock GB ROM you should be using -- http://www.mediafire.com/?05nemq5yyn5fuqf, this one has bootloaders, but preferably you should use stock odin roms that don't mess with the BL's (after this of course, since yours are messed up right now).
Now of course this depends upon you getting into download mode. If you can use ROMmanager (btw, I don't recommend you download your roms from rommanager, as that will not always be the most up to date and may not be the one for you) to get into recovery mode, then from there go to advanced then reboot download. However some kernels do not support this. Try the cable methods before trying this method.
First of all, I appreciate your help Mikel.canovas. I have used all the button methods. I can no longer get into recovery or download. (Romtoolbox enables me to get into recovery(2E), but not download). I now have root access, but am not able to sideload apps, and apparently rommanager free isn't available on the market. I did buy rommanager premium, but unfortunately now that I basically reset my phone, it doesn't show up as bought (known issue, apparently not resolved?), and even after I bought it again, it says I need the free version to even use the premium version.
Should I go through the process to be able to sideload apps? Or will romtoolbox do the trick? Rom toolbox gives me the option to install a rom from my sd card. Should I use that, and select the GB ROM you provided? I'm not sure I understood exactly how you want me to get that GB ROM onto my phone.
What I want to eventually have is either MIUI or rom fasty on my phone. If possible, could you give me some steps on how to reach that goal?
Thanks again for your time. Eclair on the captivate is not pleasant, especially since I had a taste of CM.
Well first off I highly recommend Mosaic over CM or Fasty, solely because of performance and battery life. However that is all subjective.
Ah since you're rom is sending to 2E recovery, you're not rooted with cwm. You need to flash another kernel that supports this. Afterwards, If you can get into CWM, I recommend putting CM onto your sdcard and flashing from there. After booting into CM hold down the power button, press reboot, choose reboot download. See if that works. If not, does adb reboot download work for you? If not again, I recommend trying another USB port, reinstalling drivers, trying different button combos. I've had issues getting into download mode in the past and, trust me, it is VERY frustrating.
Well first of all, before you back into flashing stuff, don't flash to stock unless you have done everything possible with the tools on your phone. I'm assuming you gave it at least 5 minutes to boot up, as the first boot can variably take longer. You could go into recovery and wipe stuff, or you could have gone back to CM7. A flash to stock is probably never necessary in the situation you reported.
Anyway, if you can get into recovery, maybe try getting a kernel that allows you to reboot into download from recovery. Although that will depends on what kernel you are on right now, as I know speedmod kernel has that option, but you would need to get to download to flash that.
And as another poster wrote, have you tried all button combinations?
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Well first of all, before you back into flashing stuff, don't flash to stock unless you have done everything possible with the tools on your phone. I'm assuming you gave it at least 5 minutes to boot up, as the first boot can variably take longer. You could go into recovery and wipe stuff, or you could have gone back to CM7. A flash to stock is probably never necessary in the situation you reported.
Anyway, if you can get into recovery, maybe try getting a kernel that allows you to reboot into download from recovery. Although that will depends on what kernel you are on right now, as I know speedmod kernel has that option, but you would need to get to download to flash that.
And as another poster wrote, have you tried all button combinations?
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Or download SGS Kernel Flasher from the market. You can then flash kernels with the app. without having to go into download mode. Very handy.
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
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wwcjr91 said:
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
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If nobody beats me to it, I will post you some links tomorrow when I'm on my laptop.
Oh, and miui won't really give you better battery life than CM7. It basically is CM7 with a different UI. I loved CM7 a ton, so if you are having issues with it, let me know! With the right kernel and other settings, battery life is pretty decent, as long as you charge nightly.
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wwcjr91 said:
Once again guys, thank you for your time. A little more information:
Kernel:
2.6.29
[email protected]#12
Baseband:
I897UCJF6
Let me know if you need any other information.
I am able to get into download mode using the terminal emulator in rom tool box. (The free version of rom manager is no longer on the market)
I was hoping one of you could give me a step by step of what I need to do, with links to downloads.
And yes, I have tried all off the three button methods. Also, I probably should have researched more before I flashed back to stock.
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What is the build number of your phone? It's located under your battery, looks something like 10.06,10.07, 10.08 and so on
Alright, thank you, I will be checking back tomorrow.
Eventually what I want is to have the working 3 button combos again for both download and recovery mode, and either the miui, mosaic or rom fasty on my phone.
Easy flash GB BL's and you won't have to worry about 3 button problems!
If you didnt do a Master Clear, now would be the time. Make sure you back up anything you want to keep. MC will erase EVERYTHING on your internal SD
Remove your Micro SD, and your SIM
Download:
OneClick Root
SideLoadWonderMachine This also has CWM, 3ButtonFix and ROM Manager in the zip
Make sure you have Debugging enabled
Connect to your PC
Run One Click Root, and follow the instructions, reboot
Run Sideload Wonder Machine and direct it to install ROM Manager
Copy the update.zip(CWM) and 3Button Fix to your phone
Open ROM manager and "reboot to recovery"
You'll go thru the boot twice to get to CWM
In CWM install the 3 Button Fix
I usually pop out the battery and check it before I put the ROM in.
VERY IMPORTANT!!!!! DO NOT TRY TO USE THE 3ButtonFix while you have a GB ROM installed you WILL brick your phone. It only works on 2.1, and 2.2 ROM's
using this one click package I now am able to manually enter download and recovery :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1129821
However, The recovery is still 2e..
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What is the build number of your phone? It's located under your battery, looks something like 10.06,10.07, 10.08 and so on
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1012, do you think any of my problems would have to do with the build number? WHen I got it, it had froyo with the working button combinations.
Sorry, I didn't see that until now.
I now have clockwork recovery, and I'm about to try out fasty. Thanks again guys.
So can I delete this thread? And if so, should I? I've found plenty of threads that seem outdated, and fill up the search engine.
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1012, do you think any of my problems would have to do with the build number? WHen I got it, it had froyo with the working button combinations.
Sorry, I didn't see that until now.
I now have clockwork recovery, and I'm about to try out fasty. Thanks again guys.
So can I delete this thread? And if so, should I? I've found plenty of threads that seem outdated, and fill up the search engine.
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The only reason I asked about the build # is because the 10.08's were pretty commonly known to have 3 button issues. Also, anything above 1012 and using Odin1 Click could soft brick. I was just checking as I was offering info
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The only reason I asked about the build # is because the 10.08's were pretty commonly known to have 3 button issues. Also, anything above 1012 and using Odin1 Click could soft brick. I was just checking as I was offering info
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Trying to fix my buddys cappy. Its rooted on T-Mobile and running stock 2.1 rom. I'm not a Samsung guy so how do I get cwm and a 2.3 rom? The build number is ECLAIR.UCJH7
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Go to this Stickied Thread in the Development Forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18370235&postcount=1
And u will have to use one with the Bootloaders included, because to run a gingerbread firmware u gotta have the gb bootloaders.
Post #3 has the "leaked" KK4 (Been confirmed to be the same as official).
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Go to this Stickied Thread in the Development Forum... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18370235&postcount=1
And u will have to use one with the Bootloaders included, because to run a gingerbread firmware u gotta have the gb bootloaders.
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Since its already rooted do I need a computer?
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Yep. Because these are Odin or Heimdall One Clicks.
You can't just flash to a GB firmware/rom from Eclair/Froyo without using Odin or Heimdall to at least get the Gb Bootloaders. You cannot just go through CWM recovery unless u already have the GB Bootloaders.
Of course u can get it all through mini Kies, the official GB 2.3.5 KK4 update that is.