What's good Droid Inc users? I've been working on a charging mod for the Evo that is showing excellent results and seems to prevent the quick drop a lot of android phones get right off the charger from overnight charging. This is just a test kernel btw. Invisiblek added the tweak twice, but the Incredible charging voltages were exceeding that limit, so to save him some time, I've compiled a kernel from his souce and I will be using this thread for testing and once we get it 100%, I'll send him the final code and then he can put it in his kernel.
I would test this out myself but I do not have an Incredible. But this should work for the Incredible because the Incredible and Evo share the same battery drivers. The only thing that needs to be fixed now is voltage limitations. The Incredible can reach higher charging voltages than the Evo. Once we find the right limit for everyone, we'll be all good and your battery life should increase by 1-2 hours (some people have been able to go 6 hours just on the first 10%).
Features:
-Trickle Charging
-Charges extended batteries (and stock batteries) to maximum capacity.
-And everything else that you would find in his kernel
Download v1: here
Download v2: here
my github
invisiblek github
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Any chance on a sense version of this?
cant wait to test this kernel!!!
Since this is built from his source, it should contain the multitouch patch as well, correct?
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Downloading, will test on OMGB rom.
Forget charging, what about overheating? Lol the charging is cool though, I'll probably try it out.
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excuse my ignorance, but what is the multituouch ?
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excuse my ignorance, but what is the multituouch ?
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It allows up to ten points to register instead of just 2.
Just flashed this kernel running CM #184 will leave it on the charger overnight and let you know how it goes
Which verion of invisiblek's kernel did you use as a base?
I think I am missing something on your github repo. As far as I can tell, the changes you made to arch/arm/mach-msm/htc_battery.c are all in spacing/formatting and not actually altering the code. Can you point me in the right direction here? I would love to try to add these changes into my kernel as well (github), but I am really not seeing the changes...
Any help would be appreciated. And thanks for the great work!
my battery was fully charged before I flashed this kernel, plugged in my charger til the green light came on again(im not bump charging), so with my battery at 97% after the unplug, ive been at 97% for the last 20 mins. Usually by now im down to 90%. As far as overheating...im running at 1.13 as all is fine...soo far so good
Quick question, do you still have to plug this into the wall outlet or can this be charged to maximum capacity through the USB cable to your computer now too? I lost my adapter for the wall so I always have to charge from my computer, which I don't mind.
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Downloading, will test on OMGB rom.
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What is the status of this?
AstrolimbiChaos said:
What is the status of this?
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Incrediblek is baked into that ROM, so I would be shocked if this modified version didn't work.
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What is the status of this?
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the charging aspect is great and battery drop is minimal...although, Im having issues with signal bars and 3g it goes from 0 bars w/ 3g, If i have full bars I get 1x instead of 3g...and this will alternate..im using the 2.15 radio...never been an issue before
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the charging aspect is great and battery drop is minimal...although, Im having issues with signal bars and 3g it goes from 0 bars w/ 3g, If i have full bars I get 1x instead of 3g...and this will alternate..im using the 2.15 radio...never been an issue before
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Haven't had that problem yet. Will be on the lookout though.
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I like where this thread is going.
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Now that the kernel has been unlocked to alow the battery to use the full 4.2-3.0v potential, some people are having issues getting there battery to drain to 3.0 w/o having its protection circuitry kicking in.
Equipment
Multi meter- digita/ analog... doesnt matter, just need to be able to mesure DC voltage downt to atleat 1/10th volt.
Bulb -i personaly use a #194 automotive bulb
Procedure
drain battery as normal untill shutdown.
remove battery
check voltage across the 2 outer lugs ( just for referance )
take bulb, unfold the wire contacts so they stick out, touch them to the outer lugs ( bulb will barely glow its rated for 12v )
ether tape the bulb in place or hold it there ( i just hold it, keeps me from forgetting about it and draining it to low)
recheck votage every few min.
drain it to 2.9-3.0v
reinstall in phone and charge as normal
some batterys may require you to repete it to recondition the protection circuitry.
if you drain it below 2.5v you will need to buy a new battery... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
Awsome thanks!! Do i need to do this everytime i reflash a eom or kernel thats is able to use this feature?
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Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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Lets all break our batteries yay!!!!!
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t1h5ta3 said:
Now that the kernel has been unlocked to alow the battery to use the full 4.2-3.0v potential, some people are having issues getting there battery to drain to 3.0 w/o having its protection circuitry kicking in.
Equipment
Multi meter- digita/ analog... doesnt matter, just need to be able to mesure DC voltage downt to atleat 1/10th volt.
Bulb -i personaly use a #194 automotive bulb
Procedure
drain battery as normal untill shutdown.
remove battery
check voltage across the 2 outer lugs ( just for referance )
take bulb, unfold the wire contacts so they stick out, touch them to the outer lugs ( bulb will barely glow its rated for 12v )
ether tape the bulb in place or hold it there ( i just hold it, keeps me from forgetting about it and draining it to low)
recheck votage every few min.
drain it to 2.9-3.0v
reinstall in phone and charge as normal
some batterys may require you to repete it to recondition the protection circuitry.
if you drain it below 2.5v you will need to buy a new battery... YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!
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Giving it a shot now.
PaiPiePia said:
Lets all break our batteries yay!!!!!
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you will only break the battery by trying to drain to 2.5 or below.
3.0v is normal for a li-io battery.
this isnt new technology, were not doing any thing ground breaking. if anything were playing catchup. thank you samsung...
I am still a bit reluctant, however I am willing to proceed with more detail. If you can explain how exactly it works, it will make me feel more confident in doing so. I am not afraid at all in draining the battery with a bulb which I already picked up at Auto Zone, a 194 but this one is a 14v, all they had, and do know how to use a meter, ( am a low voltage installer, go ADT!)
So I was looking for more specifics. How does the kernel then register that the battery can now be used to 3v, etc... If you do know, if not that fine too
Just like to know how things work basically, and how it works.
Thanks!
Which kernels support 3.0v?
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Look at eugene's a13 a14 and I think his new one too.
Well just drained the battery to 2.98v and put it on charge now. Cant get it to boot yet, even though after a minute of charging it was back at 3.3 v, Strange? ANyway Im going to let it charge some more and try to turn it on while its still plugged in.
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Li-io batterys need to be drained down every once in a while. Most experts recomend draining to 3.0v about every 30 cycles....
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Can you site one of these experts?
-bZj
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So i have come to the conclusion that all thougj this does work to drain your battery the modded kernel does not work. I have not seen an increase in battery life at all. Which i am very dissapointed in.
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So i have come to the conclusion that all thougj this does work to drain your battery the modded kernel does not work. I have not seen an increase in battery life at all. Which i am very dissapointed in.
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Has Nothing to Do with the Kernel MOd... It's the Damn Kernel Clock cycles and sticking at high speeds when sleeping... I've said this many of time already & nobody listens..
OVERKILL Kernel was the First kernel that fixed this issue, so I'm not sure why you're disappointed? the issue was never fixed to start with until now, & even then you only saw a few hours at most with the 3.0V mod..
If it's Reading 3.30v then the Mod is working Correctly as by default it's set to 3.60V, in this case it's just a matter of dropping the Calculations for the battery down a bit more to get the 3.0v setting
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Has Nothing to Do with the Kernel MOd... It's the Damn Kernel Clock cycles and sticking at high speeds when sleeping... I've said this many of time already & nobody listens..
OVERKILL Kernel was the First kernel that fixed this issue, so I'm not sure why you're disappointed? the issue was never fixed to start with until now, & even then you only saw a few hours at most with the 3.0V mod..
If it's Reading 3.30v then the Mod is working Correctly as by default it's set to 3.60V, in this case it's just a matter of dropping the Calculations for the battery down a bit more to get the 3.0v setting
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Alright, finally someone who knows something about something
Well unfortunately I was unable to read through every post in the forum, but did not know of this issue. Thanks for dropping some knowledge that way I can reflash the new Kernel when I get home and, see better battery life, and watch some dragons.
Hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, by all means you are a legend among the this forum eugene and will always use your kernels, roms, etc.. With that said I might start my own thread to consolidate all of this battery questions, problems, answers etc. Thanks again eugene!!
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Alright, finally someone who knows something about something
Well unfortunately I was unable to read through every post in the forum, but did not know of this issue. Thanks for dropping some knowledge that way I can reflash the new Kernel when I get home and, see better battery life, and watch some dragons.
Hope you didn't take my post the wrong way, by all means you are a legend among the this forum eugene and will always use your kernels, roms, etc.. With that said I might start my own thread to consolidate all of this battery questions, problems, answers etc. Thanks again eugene!!
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All good man... I've just stated this a few already is all, lol....
But, with that being said, I know the Mod is working then, and I just need to do a few more adjustment to the source codec and fix a few Calculations to get us down more to the correct settings..
Thanks for Posting the 3.30V though, as this give more to go on, and I was waiting for true data reports before lowering it anymore to keep from brick batteries
~Eugene
NVM - Wrong place to post
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NVM - Wrong place to post
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Wrong Thread & no it's not needed with the Latest Kernel.
eugene,
So I just flashed the new Kernel, working flawless so far, but am at 60% battery, and have a voltage of 3700 mV. Not sure if that's where the voltage should be at that percentage. You wouldn't happen to have a chart, or know what voltage should be giving what battery percentage.
Should I try draining my battery again down to 3.ov since I just flashed the new kernel?
Thanks
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Wrong Thread & no it's not needed with the Latest Kernel.
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LMFAO!!!!!!
jzero88 said:
eugene,
So I just flashed the new Kernel, working flawless so far, but am at 60% battery, and have a voltage of 3700 mV. Not sure if that's where the voltage should be at that percentage. You wouldn't happen to have a chart, or know what voltage should be giving what battery percentage.
Should I try draining my battery again down to 3.ov since I just flashed the new kernel?
Thanks
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It's based on the init of the battery Calculations.. So if the Calculations are wrong it will report odd until there fixed... Should be fixed in the Kernel I'm running though... Will be Posting the Kernel shortly & now is Marked Stable for all at this point...
Charts? lol, not unless I boot back into linux.. I'll get the charts Posted when I can so everyone can do reporting on it.
Hello all,
I have seen reports that because the source code for the captivate has not been fully released, some of the processes cannot be put to sleep when they are not being used, and therefore causes bad battery life. I am just about to flash CM 7.1 and am curious to know how the battery life is on the captivate.
All info is greatly appreciated!
LWt mw know what you find out! Just flashed it and my battery goes quicker than my bank account. Please let me know what I can do to help this I like the rom
Jaye
gtabowner said:
LWt mw know what you find out! Just flashed it and my battery goes quicker than my bank account. Please let me know what I can do to help this I like the rom
Jaye
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Jaye,
This happens frequently when flashing a new ROM, you should try wiping the battery stats or giving the ROM a few days to calibrate with the battery.
Been a week for me and battery life is still horrible. I lose about 25% an hour
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ConeyKiller said:
Been a week for me and battery life is still horrible. I lose about 25% an hour
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You should try a custom kernel like glitch or Neo to see if that will help. I get awesome battery life in miui which is bases of cm7. I find that neo gives me the best battery life.
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You should try a custom kernel like glitch or Neo to see if that will help. I get awesome battery life in miui which is bases of cm7. I find that neo gives me the best battery life.
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What do you think about the Boog Kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294849
Also, some people must be getting solid battery life, or CM7 wouldn't be as popular as it is. Or is this a known thing with CM7?
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What do you think about the Boog Kernel?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294849
Also, some people must be getting solid battery life, or CM7 wouldn't be as popular as it is. Or is this a known thing with CM7?
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I get better battery life on miui and neo kernel than any samsung rom I have tried. But each phone is different.
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ConeyKiller said:
Been a week for me and battery life is still horrible. I lose about 25% an hour
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Yeah that's pretty awful. Try doing a battery calibration to see if that helps. It should never go that quick (unless you're playing some serious games). I've never really had great battery life with cm7/miui I've had the best battery life with all the recent samsung gingerbread leaks. I think those are better than cm7. But that's my opinion.
I am in CM7.1 since Sunday. I had very awful battery in start. So I did battery calibration, manually. So I got very decent battery on wifi. But at work I use att data so again my battery life was horrible. But I am seeing improvement since I am using this app called green power to manage my data. Try that.
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I am in CM7.1 since Sunday. I had very awful battery in start. So I did battery calibration, manually. So I got very decent battery on wifi. But at work I use att data so again my battery life was horrible. But I am seeing improvement since I am using this app called green power to manage my data. Try that.
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If you get good battery on WiFi but not with mobile data, try a different modem. Not only are some modems inherently better on battery, but if you find one that gives you a better signal you should see improvements in battery life as well.
Flashing the Glitch kernel seems to have improved my battery life.
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You should try a custom kernel like glitch or Neo to see if that will help. I get awesome battery life in miui which is bases of cm7. I find that neo gives me the best battery life.
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Hi, Can you point me to a post that (a) has the Neo Kernel and (b) explains how to flash it on MIUI? I've had MIUI for a couple of months now and battery is to as good as expected. Would love to try to use another Kernel but I sincerely don't know how to do it.
Thanks in advance,
Mauricio
I just love MIUI, no battery problems for me. Gets me through 2 days of moderate usage so I'm a happy camper.
I just wish it had the Audience chip workingg...
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Hi, Can you point me to a post that (a) has the Neo Kernel and (b) explains how to flash it on MIUI? I've had MIUI for a couple of months now and battery is to as good as expected. Would love to try to use another Kernel but I sincerely don't know how to do it.
Thanks in advance,
Mauricio
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Yeah here is the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1247213. The download is half way down. Flash in recovery.
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Solid Battery Life w/ Stock Kernel
Hey Everyone,
Juts came to report that I have been getting great battery life using the stock kernel. I would say it is a little better than Serendipty VII Build 2 which I came from. Only issue, and this is something I know is inherently wrong with Cyanogenmod on the Captivate, when you fully charge the device, it only shows it is charged to 98%.
Other than that, all good!
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Hey Everyone,
Juts came to report that I have been getting great battery life using the stock kernel. I would say it is a little better than Serendipty VII Build 2 which I came from. Only issue, and this is something I know is inherently wrong with Cyanogenmod on the Captivate, when you fully charge the device, it only shows it is charged to 98%.
Other than that, all good!
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Not true, you need to calibrate your batter!!!!
I get awesome battery using wifi all day long, with auto brightness, music and videos often.
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Not true, you need to calibrate your batter!!!!
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Oooohhhhh, sweet! I thought this was a common issue. I remember it was during the nightlies.
I am using the following application:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&feature=search_result&rdid=com.nema.batterycalibration&rdot=1
I will report back!
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I am in CM7.1 since Sunday. I had very awful battery in start. So I did battery calibration, manually. So I got very decent battery on wifi. But at work I use att data so again my battery life was horrible. But I am seeing improvement since I am using this app called green power to manage my data. Try that.
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Have you seen an improvement in this regards, I am having the same issues, the WiFi is draining my battery slower then my data is.
I have also done the battery calibration and it doesn't seem AS bad... still doesn't appear to be great though.
I am just coming back to this ROM after experiencing battery issues even though Glitch helped a little. I decided to try and tweak some more this go round.
I am experiencing much better results this time. Here are settings and other tweaks or modifications I have in place.
-sync is turned off
-using Launcher Pro with very few widgets (just 3GWatchdog and Power Control)
-auto brightness turn off manually adjust according to need
-gps, wifi, BT, and data turned off when not in use
-wifi notification and location detect off
-installed jk4 modem (may get better results with different modem depending on your area)
-installed Glitch v12 high leakage
-the biggest factor this time I think is UVing on the Freqs that are used while phone sleeps >>>>>100/200mhz (set for the lowest UV setting possible on these that do not result in a sleep death or reboot when phone is put to sleep)
Since installing a new ROM, last night, my INCS has been running very hot and seems to be caning the battery.
I charged over night, unplugged it at about 7am and it is is dead already. I haven't been using much more than usual, and so it is concerning me slightly.
I was wondering if anyone could help me find out what is causing the issue and ways to resolve it?
Cheers!
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Since installing a new ROM, last night, my INCS has been running very hot and seems to be caning the battery.
I charged over night, unplugged it at about 7am and it is is dead already. I haven't been using much more than usual, and so it is concerning me slightly.
I was wondering if anyone could help me find out what is causing the issue and ways to resolve it?
Cheers!
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Check the task manager to see what processes you have running. You can also check the battery settings and one of the screens will show what has been using the battery.
Have you tried rebooting the phone?
Thanks for the tips.
Nothing out of the ordinary seems to be running in the background, and most of the battery drain is the screen which isn't too much of a surprise. I don't have many apps installed yet.
Would it be worth installing a cpu monitor to check the cpu speeds, in case it is running too high?
On the stock ROM it would last a good 12 hours with moderate usage and a lot of apps installed and running.
You can try setcpu or whatever CPU utility depending on your rom.
You can set offscreen to a lower speed like 600mhz or so. See if that helps you out.
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You can try setcpu or whatever CPU utility depending on your rom.
You can set offscreen to a lower speed like 600mhz or so. See if that helps you out.
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Thanks, I'll try that and report back.
What are the ideal cpu speeds for the INCS?
I dunno what Rom you're using. But I would recommend you to use all the battery until it shuts down. Charge it to 100% then use a battery calibrater
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I dunno what Rom you're using. But I would recommend you to use all the battery until it shuts down. Charge it to 100% then use a battery calibrater
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I'm using Virtuous Quattro RC3 (btw, love it!)
I've charged to 100% and I'll leave it on tonight and see what happens.
Right, I don't know what's changed, if anything, but I left the phone on over night to discharge and it is still at 55% and very cool to the touch.
I guess it just sorted itself out!
Cheers for the help though.
Hi All,
I have finally shortlisted optimus g and nexus 4. I have to finalize one.
Nexus 4: 16 GB, Optimus G: 32 G
Nexus 4 Latest updates, Optimus G: very slow updates( I meant very slow), and every small developing community ( i meant really very small)
Nexus 4: no LTE, Optimus G: Supports LTE (in india LTE not available)
Nexus 4: no USB OTG support, Optimus G: (Supports pen drive mouse keyboard u name it)
Both devices have reported back cover crack issues and over heating issues. Please provide your views on this.
Both looks good.
Howz gaming performance?
Nexus in india is 25k where as optimus g is 30 k.
So which one to go for.
Currently using Incs for almost 2 years, awesome build quality and pretty good developing community.
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but Will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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Correction. So yes, I would suggest the Nexus 4. Its got a nice big developer community too.
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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True but once it's a nexus 4 you don't have go worry about updates, you can have the latest android updates and versions with a N4 Rom
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Wait for the next Nexus if can't wait, go for Nexus 4.... you'll always get the most current Android
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getting an incredible s
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
hasif63 said:
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
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The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
getting an incredible s
072665995 said:
The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
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because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
hasif63 said:
because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
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You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
buying htc incredible s
072665995 said:
You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
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nice... good to know that :good:
hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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Splux said:
Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a required if you are having problems!
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Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
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whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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err no
its the one HTC gave me
I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
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I do so much work on my phone so need one that is smooth and quick with great battery. I have Pure Nexus now and it's fine but sometimes it seems to lag. Maybe they all do when jumping through lots of apps. Maybe I need to reboot daily to keep it smooth.
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I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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Mr.Ak said:
I don't think it should lag but you may give custom kernels a try.Lag sometimes happen due to throttling after heat.Custom kernel manage these issues at ease.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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OK thank you. I have 3.10.40-PureKernel-Shamu-2.04 so it's a custom kernel meant to work fine with PureNexus I think. I'm sure it's just because I'm using nav, and other high usage apps.
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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IMO android uses a very smart way of managing stuff when multi-tasting to reduce lag.So it is still highly doubtable.
Why don't you try some other kernels and overclock possibly?
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Right now the phone doesn't last till much past 6p so I don't want to clock even more in case it uses more battery. It used to last longer so maybe when updating to 7.1.1 with the newer Pure Nexus that took some more. Or maybe it's just a 2014 phone with high mileage =). I used to go to sleep and overnight it hardly used energy now I notice when it's just idle it can use 20% overnight, maybe more. It could be an app I downloaded is running.
I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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I use Nitrogen and no custom kernel and get above 6 hours screen time, very good ROM!
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Awesome thank you for that. I'll probably give it a try. I think it was in the top 5 custom roms on an article I read.
i finally switched to 7 on pure nexus...it's great...smooth...fast...had it running almost 300 hours without a reboot and it was still going strong...i haven't tried nitrogen...so can't say...but am happy with pn...i came from chroma rom...
Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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Roms, Kernel, and Age are all irrelevant!
A phone will last as long as the battery allows, and that's based on your usage of the phone. Period!
You use a lot of apps, it's going to die quicker.
You stream a lot of music/YouTube, it's going to die quicker.
There is NO magic combination of Rom+Kernel that is going to magically make your battery last longer.
Your battery has X amount of usable stored electrical charge, and your phone will use it accordingly based on what you do on it.
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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I don't think he understands or maybe is oversimplifying what he means. The Rom and the Kernal which affect the amount of systems running will affect battery life. The age as in the amount of times you've discharged and charged your phone over months and years will affect the battery life. There are tons of variables that affect it. One can say the kernal and the rom if they are running more systems or less then that's what he means by saying if you use more apps then it uses more battery but that isn't magic that's just use. So if you put a certain kernal and rom then that is affecting what you do on it which affects battery life. The X amount of storage a battery has degrades over time. The first answer when googled is below. I probably have almost 1000 charge cycles now. Nothing I can do about that.
"Charging a battery forces ions from the cathode to the anode; using the battery reverses the flow. Over time, this process wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. A high-end lithium-polymer battery can lose about 20 percent of its capacity after 1000 charge cycles."
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Exactly ;_;
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So you're trying to say using Rom and custom kernel can't help increase the battery backup(SOT) of a device?
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Not if you have a bunch of garbage apps running in the background, constantly running some kind of process to check for incoming messages/app notifications/location tracking.
You wanna know how i went from having 10% battery life at the end of a work day to having over 50% battery life???
I stopped installing **** on my phone that i didn't absolutely need.
And low and behold, my battery life "magically" increased itself.