heya fellas
question here is with all the lagfixes/kernals
is everybody happy with how fast/reliable the phone is ?
im mainly a tester and was happy since i wont keep a single setup for more than a few days, and since my latest setup,in my situation all it takes is a week and the lag is back ....
wether i was OC'd or not the lag is haunting my phone T_T
current setup is darkys v7 rom and SO 4_5_3 kernal with 1.4mhz set on boot
1 week of normal use with 80 apps installed and lag ranges from 1-8 secs wether it was moving between homescreens/app pages in menu/call log/msgs
last lagfix i was completly happy with was longback when i was on voodoo and OCLF on top of it. i remember the phone was seriously blazing fast like it had everything done before i asked for it, and that setup only lasted a month or so before froyo was out.
i sound like an old hag complaining but seriously who out there is very pleased with a certain setup? anything yall recommend?
I'm on Darky's 7.0 JPY (Have been on Darky's ROMs since 5.1) without a lagfix and the phone is snappy fast, as are all apps I use (about 4 pages of them). Haven't seen it lag in weeks.
Do you face a lag after you launch up multiple apps? Or generally from boot onwards itself?
from boot i know its the media scanner taking over 100% of the cpu
clearing ram clears most of the lag but i notice the crazy lag whenever i have any amount of available ram of 80mb and less
mainly ram jumps between 130mb and 60mb from what i see
got a few widgets to monitor ram/cpu/temp/battery/ and the control widget with 3g/wifi/bluetooth/data/gps/brightness/media scan/reboot and a black background
trying to maintain a small amount of widgets to keep free ram available, pretty much doing my best
I use Autokiller Memory Optimizer with an Aggressive preset, it helps keep multi-task going smooth (Usually have 130~ MB free with it running). Have you tried that application?
I'm on Darky's 7.0 JPY (Have been on Darky's ROMs since 5.1) without a lagfix and the phone is snappy fast, as are all apps I use (about 4 pages of them). Haven't seen it lag in weeks.
Likewise no lag at all .
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Most lag comes from bad app.
The only on i can't get lagfree is twlauncher. So i use golauncher instead. I don't se any lag.
I also use ext2 file system.
This with my kernel.
Im happy with this lagfix and i don't think it will be laggy over time.
**Using my own JPX kernel, z4mod, 345MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
Whilst it never really bothered me in 2.2, in JPX/2.2.1, honestly, I'm not running any hacks. I seriously haven't seen any remotely long stalls anymore. Also, all OS's stall, it isn't only because of "bad apps"; it can also happen when swapping and such. We really don't know enough about the lag problem to say where most lag comes from.
Since JPX also introduces over the air updates (one major flaw with earlier firmwares), if the GPS turns out to perform like fitness-grade GPS (I still need to test that), I'll be extremely happy. But no longer entirely dissatisfied. Taking GPS out of the equation though, I am now happier than I've ever been. If Samsung frees up more RAM, I might even start overlook the GPS problems.
After I test GPS, I'll know for sure.
(PS, I don't use any lag optimisations, because I don't feel they solve the problem properly).
Did you read what this tread was.about?
I can also say with lagfix the phone is better then stock. The latest firmware did alot for the lag, but it still things to do.
**Using my own JPX kernel, z4mod, 345MB Ram and ext2 filesystem**
thanx for all the suggestions fellas
just reverted back to 2.2 (missing darkys already T_T)
will test it out n check how things go
first things first gps surely seems worse than darkys rom for some reason (could it be the modem file ?)
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My q is this: Has anyone been able to confirm that the lag is there on ALL phones if we assume they have the same fw and apps installed?
Nope my brother has orginal Bell i9000 without any hacks or mods abd his runs blazing fast .....i was so surprised!!
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JH2 rom stock no lag fix, running very fast, no delay at all
400+ apps installed, i use about 200 of them, most of them are tools or games
I must have about 300 apps installed and am still on stock with no lag fix and the only time I get lag is when updating or installing from the market.
Stock JM1, no root or lagfix, only issues I have are with the slow arse marketplace.
Running JPK.
Without lagfix it runs ok. But when I install the lag fix the speed increase is obvious. Apps start and stop with little to no delay, media scanning at boot takes a fraction of the time, and the odd stutter from going through menus in apps is virtually eliminated.
Until you've compared the phone with and without the lagfix on the same firmware, you wont be able to give a decent answer.
I think most people would be happy with the performance mainly because they haven't experienced anything faster and compared other fast phones.
And maybe some firmwares suffer from lag less than others. Seems to be a bit worse in Froyo but I could be wrong, it's been a while since I used Eclair now.
Hmm, what does this all imply? Can we be sure this is a sw issue when some phones with hundreds of apps have no lag but mine with 100 apps lags as h...?
I have a recent Bell i9000m with stock JH2 and no lag. I've only installed maybe 20 additional apps but the phone is used heavily throughout the day (music, videos, facebook, twitter, browsing, along with regular voice/text).
I ran OCLF just to try it but didn't find any difference in performance, just an over inflated Quadrant score.
Can some lag depend on what memory card is used? Fast quality cards vs Cheaper cards?
I have never had any really annoying lag
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A cheaper/slower external SD card wouldn't cause any system lag because the system isn't doing regular read/writes with it. It might cause a photo gallery or music index to load a bit slower if that kind of data was on the card.
I run a class 4 micro SD and the performance doesn't change.
Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?
Don't think so....
But JPO is speedy when fresh.
Lag is still there, less noticable, but there, you can feel it especially during parallel download and installing apps or when you have a running background updating/sync process.
Voodoo is mature enough anyway, infact, I kinda do miss Voodoo's brightness and color fix on 2.2.
I'm on Jpa,don't feel the NEEd for lagfix...i gets' hung for a while on installation and other small slowdowns,but it's really good overall (noticeably better than cooked jpm/jp6,at least)
Nope, no reason to dump them yet...
Media scanning still takes a while in stock, while with a lagfix it's about 2 seconds. So the phone is in a fully usable state much sooner after booting or when adding/deleting media on the phone.
I also used DolphonHD browser as a test.
On a fresh boot on stock firmware, it takes about 6 seconds to start up.
With a lagfix (I used Advanced EXT4 with one of those custom kernels) it starts up within 2 seconds on fresh boot.
Samsung needs to dump this RFS crap, it's a horrible joke.
There is definitely still lag and random pauses in JPO, no question about that. Although it may be a slight improvement over previous Froyo betas, you still need an EXT4 lag-fix to eliminate the lag and pauses that exist in stock JPO.
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Has the time come to finally scrap all the lagfixes with the release of JPA/JPO?
Please, no Quadrant or similar synthetic arguments against. The "real-feel" of the phone is the only relevant benchmark.
So, in your experience in the operation of the new firmwares, comparing them in a native vs. lagfixed state, is it time to dispense with the lagfixes?
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No - user experience (especially with RSS reader) is still much better with OCLF (10 times faster).
Maybe, if I didn't use RSS reader which requires fast IO I'd live without OCLF...
Oops! I voted no, but wanted to vote yes!
I use JPO and I experienced lag without apps installed.. So clean it lagged. I didn't clear the sdcard before the lag (I think it's useless), but I did reset to factory defaults.
Just like all the Eclair releases, Froyo certainly seems to be getting better with every "release". As already mentioned a few posts earlier, JPA certainly zooms when fresh.
That said, it really is too soon to get rid of lagfixes. When Froyo matures to the level of, say JM9, then would be an appropriate time for such a thought. Till then, hello Voodoo....
The best test of lag would be NewsRob imo. Can someone with a non lagfixed JPO test it out? I can already confirm it flies on JPO + Voodoo.
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I dont have any real lagging issues on my phone but I can see that moving around the inbox is definitly faster with a lagfix, the rest of the phone operations are pretty smooth woth Doc's JPO and the modded kernel.
Compared to ther lesser speced phone the SGS is pretty slow so yes it does need a lag fix at certain functions
Hi,
straight to the point...i want froyo for my galaxy s and a very good and stable lagfix with it but I don't know what ROM and lag fix to choose from and am very "noobiesh" at these kind of things.
Plus:i got voodoo lag fix and its great and I like the color and sharpness tweaks that comes with it so can I use voodoo lagfix with froyo??
So please can anyone tell me what to do exactly without any complicated mumbo jumbo??? DX
Get JPO (the latest froyo) from samfirmware.com, and flash it using ODIN. (use vol down+home+power button when turning on your phone to get it into download mode).
In my opinion, no lag patch is really needed. Lag patches can cause long term maintenance issues anyway still (and you need to take more precautions, such as DEFINITELY keeping a copy of /efs if you use a lag patch). If you are consistently getting excessive lag in late roms, it might be because certain programs you have installed are causing problems (also consider trying launcherpro, or a stock launcher).
If you want a bit more speed, wait for Tayatuma to update his superlite rom, to use JPO rather than JPM, or wait for another AOSP ROM such as Cyanogenmod (AOSP is closer to the experience google wants us to have, rather than Samsung).
Ensure you use a i9000 rom too, and don't accidentally use a i9008 or other model one. Good luck, and remember, this is just my opinion. Also, don't get too caught up in Quadrant. It isn't accurate, and some people here SERIOUSLY (I kid you not), are selecting roms based on a difference of quadrant speed of only a few points (less than 5%).
Hi!
I posted this afternoon because I wanted to get more from my sgs and i still had doubts.
I finally made it to put Darky's room 9.3 in my sgs with no problems. Fact is that... i don't know, maybe its me, but i think i'm experiencing little bit of lag. Last quadrant i did was around 1110.
Any idea if this is normal?
Thank you in advance
Quadrants don't mean anything. Some people get crazy numbers and still feel like they have lag. Don't rely on the numbers for determining if you have lag or not. If your apps are opening quickly, as in you don't just sit there looking at a black screen, then you have relatively no lag. If you still feel you have lag, then apply a lagfix
Personally speaking, darkyy's rom has almost no lag at all in opinion, but to each his own
I get loads of lag when I turn on lagfix in darky rom with the option: convert system
Hi I'm on a JPY+voodoo. Pretty happy but one complaint about lag. Even with voodoo on when I open several apps and then go back to contacts, or SMS, it takes several seconds to open them (black window). I guess it is just the time spent to empty and refill RAM with new app. My question is: Is there the stock SGS GB free from this lag/delay? JVS, JVQ or JVR I mean... Are there CM7/MIUI free from it? Just to make sure that it is worthwile to change now without waiting a more stable version...
It's a bit riskier, but removing journal from ext4 made my phone a lot faster (on jvr and now jvs). booting the phone and loading apps especially seems faster.
Secondly, talon and galaxian are the best kernels. Personally i prefer talon for voodoo color and also it seems to run smoother with the conservative governor.
Another thing you can do is to increase the minimum frequency of your phone (ie. I did mine from 100 to 200mhz using tegrak overclock). this means faster scaling due to less steps (especially on conservative governor).
Finally, bigmem kernels may also help your problem by giving you more free ram. I use the latest talon bigmem kernel (gives u an extra 10-15mb ram). You do sacrifice HD video recording but I think its worth it if u dont do much video recording (you can always temporarily flash back another kernel on the odd occasion that you need it).
Oh and one more thing. Delete all the apps you don't use from your phone (especially system/apps)
EDIT: seems i went a bit off topic. I have heard that CM7 is faster than stock, but it seems to sacrifice battery life a little (not sure if this is still the case). And I think all stock roms have a little bit of lag, at least after a while. I think JVR/JVS are significantly better than the previous gingerbread roms (i have tried a few), but rom/kernel customisation is still important for the best user experience.
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It's a bit riskier, but removing journal from ext4 made my phone a lot faster (on jvr and now jvs). booting the phone and loading apps especially seems faster.
Secondly, talon and galaxian are the best kernels. Personally i prefer talon for voodoo color and also it seems to run smoother with the conservative governor.
Another thing you can do is to increase the minimum frequency of your phone (ie. I did mine from 100 to 200mhz using tegrak overclock). this means faster scaling due to less steps (especially on conservative governor).
Finally, bigmem kernels may also help your problem by giving you more free ram. I use the latest talon bigmem kernel (gives u an extra 10-15mb ram). You do sacrifice HD video recording but I think its worth it if u dont do much video recording (you can always temporarily flash back another kernel on the odd occasion that you need it).
Oh and one more thing. Delete all the apps you don't use from your phone (especially system/apps)
EDIT: seems i went a bit off topic. I have heard that CM7 is faster than stock, but it seems to sacrifice battery life a little (not sure if this is still the case). And I think all stock roms have a little bit of lag, at least after a while. I think JVR/JVS are significantly better than the previous gingerbread roms (i have tried a few), but rom/kernel customisation is still important for the best user experience.
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It's really weird how you said "stock roms lag". As far as I know, no other ROM besides samsung and iOS has smooth web browser scrolling