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Hi folks. Yes, I'm another newb but not quite an idiot, and I would love your advice. We've got a new NC for a teenager who loves books but would also appreciate videos and some applications. It's just out of shrink wrap.
From my preliminary reading it sounds as if (a) only NookieFroyo provides Flash support including Flash video, and (b) B&N may be pushing Froyo shortly as stock ROM.
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
Obviously I'm all over the map, and I apologize. Just trying to figure out the best approach to make the kid happy (e-reading, Youtube, and web browsing would probably suffice) and not end up with a funked out device that can't be used or supported for its original purpose.
Thanks very much in advance.
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
To be honest, maybe. But, once you autonooter or install a custom rom B&N cannot OTA update your nook.
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
Yes, there are flashable images that will revert the nook back to out-of-the-box state. look through the Dev forum.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
I think it's something to do with being able to connect to google's services. yes it's necessary when you stay with eclaire, not wirh froyo/CM7/honeycomb. yes, the store works with rooted eclaire.
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
you use the store the same way on a rooted-stock nook as you would on a stock one. I don't know how the look feel or function is for the b&n app, I have an original nook for reading.
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
The market works with rooted-stock, but you'll eventually want to install CM7 or Honeycomb, trust me.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
A stock NC is pretty useless for anything other than reading/web surfing
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
Auto-nooter 3 works just fine for 1.1.0 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
No, you do not need to root to install Froyo/CM7/HC. The nook is hard wired to boot the SD-card first if able. You can go straight from stock to CM7 with one flashed micro SD-card.
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
This I don't know. I don't use the NC as a reader at all. My Original nook takes care of that.
Hope this helps. Happy modding.
I think all of your questions are easily answered by the FroYo SD card image. You can keep the Nook stock for reading books and warranty purposes and if you want the extras, stick the SD card in. Basically, if you haven't come across this one yet, the NC will boot off of the SD card first, then internal second. So if there's an SD card with a bootable image, you're up and running in froyo. If no SD card you're booting stock. It's a beautiful thing I tell you
So it really is that easy? It will just boot off the SD card out without any modification? Amazing.
That's the kind of thing I'd be worried about them changing or locking (vis a vis my question #1 above). My anxiety is whether to hack NOW to prevent future lockdown, or try to hack LATER after the authorized Froyo push.
Obviously the hacker community has made the NC a very hot item, but if the history of every other repurposed device (video games, DVRs, etc.) is any precedent B&N may not see it as valuable to encourage or allow it to continue.
Edit: But I'm also seeing reports that you do need to root the device in order to boot off the SD?
Thank you for the feedback, woot1524 and devis.
Running any version of android off of an sd card is EXTREMELY slow. You can reverse any hack root or mod made to the nook.. as long as the mod isnt physical ie. You scratch your name into the back of the nook no teenager will want to wait for the time it will take to run it off the sd card.. theyll just get frustrated and give up.
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 (zoom2)/Tapatalk Pro
woot1524 said:
1. Is there any likelihood that B&N will or could in some way use this update (or any update) to prevent subsequent rooting or other hacks?
To be honest, maybe. But, once you autonooter or install a custom rom B&N cannot OTA update your nook.
2. Are all the various mods reversible? Our concern is being able to, at worst case, revert to stock in order to have all original Nook functionality restored, including brick-and-mortar store compatibility (e.g., in-store borrowing) and especially warranty service.
Yes, there are flashable images that will revert the nook back to out-of-the-box state. look through the Dev forum.
3. Regarding the B&N store, the AutoNooter threads recommend registering with B&N before beginning any changes. Is this necessary, and/or absolutely required, and why? If you register and then root, will that allow you to purchase books, whereas you would not otherwise have been able to?
I think it's something to do with being able to connect to google's services. yes it's necessary when you stay with eclaire, not wirh froyo/CM7/honeycomb. yes, the store works with rooted eclaire.
4. Is there a substantive difference (look, feel, or function) between the process of buying books on the original stock NC versus installing the Nook app for Android on a rooted or modded NC?
you use the store the same way on a rooted-stock nook as you would on a stock one. I don't know how the look feel or function is for the b&n app, I have an original nook for reading.
5. If one "merely" roots the device and doesn't install CM or NookieFroyo or other ROMs, can one still install apps at will? I'd be fine with sideloading if no Market app were functional.
The market works with rooted-stock, but you'll eventually want to install CM7 or Honeycomb, trust me.
6. My impression is that the stock NC supports very few applications but that with the upcoming upgrade B&N may be featuring a store. Is it accurate to say that in its stock form the NC is not (yet) much more than a book reader?
A stock NC is pretty useless for anything other than reading/web surfing
7. Regarding AutoNooter, it seems to have forked based on the 1.1 B&N update. Is it better to start at 1.0.1 with the original AutoNooter or to allow the 1.1 upgrade and use the GMPower fork?
Auto-nooter 3 works just fine for 1.1.0 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
8. Is an AutoNooter or other rooting procedure required before CM is applied? I assume so, but only ask because the CM procedure at Cyanogenmod.com (I can't post links yet) doesn't have a rooting step. Maybe it's the case that AutoNooter is for rooting the existing B&N image but that other ROMs can be independently booted from SD? (Told ya I'm a newb.)
No, you do not need to root to install Froyo/CM7/HC. The nook is hard wired to boot the SD-card first if able. You can go straight from stock to CM7 with one flashed micro SD-card.
9. What, if any, of the stock device's capabilities are lost (reversibly or irreversibly) by rooting and/or modding? (One I wonder about is in-store "free" reading at B&N locations.)
This I don't know. I don't use the NC as a reader at all. My Original nook takes care of that.
Hope this helps. Happy modding.
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Your answer for number 1 and 8 apply to each other. Since the Nook is hardwired to boot from uSD, there will almost surely be rooted ROMS for it. Hope that helps clarify this point.
Oh yea, and as far as what to do for a teen...
I would go with Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 eMMC. Download and have the image to return to stock ready to go, just in case. And then be patient for when CM7 is finally cooked.
Be prepared to do most of the tinkering with NF to get it right BEFORE you give it to your teen. Once you get everything working(market, youtube, etc), then it should be ready for him/her. I have been using NF for a bit now, and once I got everything working it is great. read the forums here for a bit and you will get an idea of just how good these babies can be.
be prepared for the usual ....it's not the Xoom, an ipad, etc arguments and complaints...it's a teen you are dealing with(basing from my experiences only, with my daughter...aren't they great?).
luciferii said:
Running any version of android off of an sd card is EXTREMELY slow. You can reverse any hack root or mod made to the nook.. as long as the mod isnt physical ie. You scratch your name into the back of the nook no teenager will want to wait for the time it will take to run it off the sd card.. theyll just get frustrated and give up.
Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 (zoom2)/Tapatalk Pro
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Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.
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So it really is that easy? It will just boot off the SD card out without any modification? Amazing.
That's the kind of thing I'd be worried about them changing or locking (vis a vis my question #1 above). My anxiety is whether to hack NOW to prevent future lockdown, or try to hack LATER after the authorized Froyo push.
Obviously the hacker community has made the NC a very hot item, but if the history of every other repurposed device (video games, DVRs, etc.) is any precedent B&N may not see it as valuable to encourage or allow it to continue.
Edit: But I'm also seeing reports that you do need to root the device in order to boot off the SD?
Thank you for the feedback, woot1524 and devis.
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No need to root to run it off of SD. Just pop it in and go.
devis said:
Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.[/QUOTE
You don't have issues with the sleep of death and wifidisconnects?
That is what turned me off of froyo for Nook
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i would just root it and leave it stock.
if the teen wants to learn how to flash let 'em have at it. you can't brick a nook
xdabr said:
Hi folks. Yes, I'm another newb but not quite an idiot, and I would love your advice. We've got a new NC for a teenager who loves books but would also appreciate videos and some applications. It's just out of shrink wrap.
From my preliminary reading it sounds as if (a) only NookieFroyo provides Flash support including Flash video, and (b) B&N may be pushing Froyo shortly as stock ROM.
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well im a teenager and i can tell you that if said teen wants full video support said teen should stick on stock nook OS but rooted but if said teen wants something that runs well but with an amazing UI i recommend HC
as a teen i dont really need flash to much but it is nice to have but pretty much i used flash for youtube on the web but now that youtube streams in HTML5 on their mobile site i feel like i didnt need it as much
Beat them with it.
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devis said:
Not for me. I find it quite fast and very usable. No issues whatsoever with it being slow.
One thing to do is to install LCD Density and change the screen density to 200 or 220 for added smoothness. It doesnt change the resolution, just the size of items on the screen to bigger and everything flows together very nicely.
The SD card 0.6.8 is my daily driver lately, I use it for work and personal email, news, reading, games, Slingbox watching... it's great. not sure what is this slowness you're talking about.[/QUOTE
You don't have issues with the sleep of death and wifidisconnects?
That is what turned me off of froyo for Nook
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SOD nope... not at all. Have yet to experience it. WIFI disconnects, yes... well, mostly the WIFI dance when it switches itself from off to on and to off and back to on again. But a reboot fixes it, so no biggie. There is actually a fix for it but me being the lazy bum that I am haven't gotten around to fixing it. And i'm reluctant to change to the newer image because this one runs so well why fix what ain't broke.
to OP... if you still dont know what to do with it, give it to me
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Btw, not all sd cards are alike. The ones who are complaining about Froyo running slowly off the sd card are probably not using a fast enough sd card. I suggest getting the Transcend 8 gb class 6 microSDHC card. I'm getting 13 MB/s write and 15 MB/s read speeds which is above class 10 specs.
I'm still in slight shock that you can dual boot without making ANY changes at all to the device, without so much as a BIOS tweak.
So it sounds as if you could even grab the display model or a friend's device, boot it off your SD to use Android for a while, and then just hand it back COMPLETELY unchanged, with all original functionality and data intact. That's just too easy!
The gist I'm getting is that even if B&N root locks the internal storage's OS in future updates, it's unlikely the SD card boot option will go away?
Thanks to everyone for all the feedback. (I ran out of Thanks credit.)
Long story short: I bought my Nook to root it. I'm not a complete moron, but I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the options for modifying the Nook. I have tons of iOS experience since I have an iPhone business on the side, so I'm not afraid to mess around with something.
The problem is, the only Android device I've spent more than 20 minutes with is the Samsung Captivate, which was ridiculously easy to root and then unlock so I could sell it.
Other than that, not much Android experience.
I bought the Nook because I need a portable device to view documents and the occasional entertainment. I'm a pilot and instantly recognized the advantage of being able to take aviation publications with me everywhere, including the cockpit. I considered the iPad since I'm intimately familiar with iOS, but the cost was a little higher than I wanted to go.
So, here's what I need: a VERY stable Nook that can efficiently read PDF files, H.264 movies and still maintain respectable battery life. I will be heading overseas with less than dependable access to internet, so I need something that's pretty worry-free since I might not be able to worry with finding a fix online.
Where to start?
I've already rooted it using AutoNooter, but it seems wonky at best. The N button rarely works at all and SoftKeys isn't much help either. I currently haven't found a way to go "back" in the Market app, and still haven't figured out how to sign in on my YouTube account.
So, what are your suggestions for setup? Please be detailed with your suggestions and save the flaming for someone who cares.
Thanks!
I didn't like the stock rom either...
I went immdiatly to nookie froyo, which is the most stable rom other then stock.
You should try it.
You should also try cm7 and it varients, but those are less stable.
you can check out the tutorials on remapping the volume keys for back and menu, although I find soft keys a valiable option.
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
LongbowFoSho said:
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
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Try it on the SD card first, just to start. If you screw up, you can just format the card and start over, it's relatively pain free that way. But it will run a little snappier on the actual Nook eMMC, but you can always do that later.
Another factor is that B&N will be updating all Nook Colors to Froyo in April. If you run off an SD card until then, then you can root the Nook after that update (with new Autonooter built for that new update), and you will have a more stable Froyo since it will be a professional kernel built for the hardware.
You'll need a Sandisk Class 4 or 6 uSD card or a Transcend Class 6 (unless you have already bought something, in which go ahead and try that card).
The build is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
Yeah......about that "don't flash the internal memory" part.....
Everything went great until I rebooted and now its stuck at the Android screen with the flashing cursor.
Now I'm just trying to figure out how to restore it. Ugh.
I'm using a 32GB SanDisk SDHC Class 6 card, BTW.
EDIT: Well, I was able to get the build from your link running from the SD card, but all of the processes suddenly and continually fail. All I get is pop up after pop up about errors.
I'm done screwing around with this for today. If I can't get something usable by tomorrow night, I'm selling this POS and getting an iPad. This isn't worth it just to save $100.
I don't know what all you did to the internal memory, but chances are this will work to get back to stock.
http://nookdevs.com/Flash_back_to_clean_stock_ROM
If that doesn't work then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945838
Softkeys works, and I use it, but it's...not intuitive...this page made things clear for me. Reading through this should get your n key working and whatnot.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Default_Launcher
Disabling the service in the softkeys settings was good for me. That stupid little button was always in the wrong place no matter where I put it and wasn't useful anyhow. I also didn't install home switcher or whatever. If you get your n button set wrong, you can just clear the defaults from the app settings for whatever app is set to the n button.
Sounds like you got it rooted and everything, but here is a link for reference anyhow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
A note on those instructions: youtube did nothing but crash on me. The purpose of logging in with youtube is to get your device linked to your google account so you can get into the market. I didn't use youtube, i think i used gmail or the market itself or something. I don't remember. I just uninstalled youtube, you don't need it. Youtube video's still download and play in the default video player if you visit youtube.com from the web browser.
As far as your options for operating systems. I haven't used froyo, and haven't spent much time with honeycomb, so grain of salt and stuff. Plus it really depends on what you need/want.
Note: after booting a fresh burn for the first time, just walk away for five minutes. I'm not sure why (maybe something to do with the not quite jit doing it's thing?), but it will be more stable if you do.
Froyo gives flash and slightly better performance over stock. I think video is on par with stock, but it could be worse, i'm not sure. It's almost certainly not better. I can't speak for stability, as I haven't tried it. I think bluetooth is possible but not realistic? I know occip got the chip responding, but I haven't seen anything indicating it's useable. Links in previous posts so i won't make another.
Cyanogenmod gives all that froyo gives plus bluetooth support. Video framerate is poor (movies, not games and whatnot). Stability isn't as good as stock. Mostly it's fine but every once in a while things start force closing like mad and i have to reboot. Also battery life isn't good with cyanogenmod. Sleep has been disabled as there is a bug with it. It will still last over a day without a charge though. It's what i use day to day. Really amazing and fast moving. Seems like every day a new major bug is fixed or a whole new piece of hardware is working. Linkie:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Honeycomb is really cool and it's amazing what deeperblue did (without much source omgwat?) but it's still kinda just a toy until google releases all the source code. No flash, no hardware accelerated video, no bluetooth, no reason to use it, other than aesthetics. Annoying ui glitches in portrait mode. Neat and worth an sd burn to play with, but not for using day to day in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995
Of course there is no need to choose one! There are a couple option for multibooting in the forums and I intend to get around to combining a few to triple boot. Right now this is what I use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947698
I'm set up to boot rooted stock off internal memory and cm7 off of uSD
P.S. If you just want it to work and be a full tablet it might be worth the extra $150 or so for an IPad. The nook has been fantastically useful for my needs and I don't think i've had this much fun with a piece of kit since my first apple II. On the other hand I've wasted a fair number of hours reading about and "bricking" the thing so...ymmv depending on what your needs/wants are.
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
Can you elaborate on "can't change permissions"? Can you not find the option, or are you making the change and its not working?
For your clockwork upgrade question, is your recovery internal, or on a bootable SD?
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Thanks for the detailed response, ylixir. I'm attempting to go back to stock now and will definitely try your suggestions.
I'm still going to try Nookie since the general consensus is that it's the most stable. I don't care about BT or even Flash since I'll just be using this mostly for mobile document viewing in Afghanistan.
Thanks again and will update with my results.
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
LongbowFoSho said:
I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
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Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, I've got it back to stock 1.1 now. I'm VERY happy to see that since I still might sell this thing if I can't make some headway with a usable ROM.
danger-rat said:
Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, this is the first forum I've ever seen that operates that way.
Well, just tried running Froyo from the SD card and it just sits at the Android splash screen (the animated one). It also did this last night, but I thought it was because of the non-functional Froyo I had flashed internally.
I guess I'll give HC a shot to see if anything actually works on this device.
Just ran HC and although I finally got past the "decrypted data" error (after three re-images and flashing, no less), I dunno.
I'm going to try rooting the stock 1.1 again and see how that goes. If I can't get comfortable with that, then I'm done. I have better things to do besides sitting around for hours and hours trying to get something to be remotely practical for every day use.
If I wanted a tinkering project, I'd buy an old car.
Autonooker is super easy to get the stock ROM working as an Android tablet.
I'm sure it's stated on the wiki that Nookie Froyo and other ROMs are in development and not meant for stable systems.
Anyway, hope Autonooker works for you
Good news! Looks like perseverence pays off because rooting 1.1 seems to have worked perfectly this time.
I am fully signed in on YouTube and email, and all the buttons are working properly.
Now that I've finally gotten that out of the way, is there a way to OC the stock ROM? Its not really a need, just curious LOL. I've seen SetCPU mentioned a few times, but IIRC its intended for 2.2 and up only. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, best PDF reader for stock ROM?
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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Get a Terminal Emulator from the Market. Now type in the following:
If running off SD
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /system
If running off EMMC
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
Hope this helps.
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Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
LongbowFoSho said:
Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
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Install a new launcher, such as Zeam, Launcher Pro, or ADW. I prefer Zeam myself. Then you'll be able to immediately see new apps you've installed.
Hi All,
First post! I just got a Nook Color from the Overstock sale and bought two as gifts for my mom and gf. I figured I'll learn all the tricks and how-to's on mine and be able to help them Christmas day. So far, I got myself a SanDisk 16GB Class 4, followed koopakid's awesome tutorial and have successfully installed the latest RC version of CM7. I ran into a bit of trouble getting the Google Apps to install, (just wound up manually adding Gmail from marketplace), and am really happy. But I have a few questions from where to go from here...
After getting CM7 off the SD card, how can I add files to the additional 15GB or so of unused data? And is it possible to do so without constantly removing my card?
I thought I read somewhere to "lock your screen" or something to prevent lag, but what does that mean?
Is it possible to download an app on my PC and install it to the Nook?
What's the best app/settings to tweak a rooted Nook?
I don't mean to be "that guy", but I didn't see a general help thing and don't understand some of the stuff I was reading earlier. Any help and advice is appreciated!
DlickSeals said:
After getting CM7 off the SD card, how can I add files to the additional 15GB or so of unused data? And is it possible to do so without constantly removing my card?
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Yes, just plug your Nook into your computer via USB and then select the option in your status bar to mount as USB. It should pop up on your computer as 2 different drives one for your SD card and one for EEMC.
[*]I thought I read somewhere to "lock your screen" or something to prevent lag, but what does that mean?
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Hmm, never heard of this and I have no idea what it means.
[*]Is it possible to download an app on my PC and install it to the Nook?
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Yes, just download the apk file and then either transfer it over and use a file explorer to install or just email it to yourself/use dropbox.
[*]What's the best app/settings to tweak a rooted Nook?
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I'm not really sure what you want here but I would suggest getting a new browser such as Opera or Dolphin first. Another good app to have is Nook Screen Recalibrate for when your screen get a little wonky.
For reading I use Aldiko.
For watch videos I use Mobo Player
And if you haven't yet download tge Amazon Appstore for a free app every day.
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Thank you KK! I'm definitely going to trying moving stuff on there once I get home! So far, the only thing I did was go through the Android Marketplace to get the Dolphin Browser earlier, but was hesitant on any of the other apps like e-Reader stuff, (heard great things about Aldiko), music, and videos.
As far as that lock screen, I have to find that post. It know it mentioned something about the screen behaving laggy or something if not locked when putting it down. That or I could be way off and misread it.
One last question: I got 2 more Nooks as presents and don't want to open them, but would it be possible to follow the same basic install using SD on my Nook and simply including those pre-made cards in the unopened Nooks or does this stuff have to be done Nook by Nook so to speak?
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Thank you KK! I'm definitely going to trying moving stuff on there once I get home! So far, the only thing I did was go through the Android Marketplace to get the Dolphin Browser earlier, but was hesitant on any of the other apps like e-Reader stuff, (heard great things about Aldiko), music, and videos.
As far as that lock screen, I have to find that post. It know it mentioned something about the screen behaving laggy or something if not locked when putting it down. That or I could be way off and misread it.
One last question: I got 2 more Nooks as presents and don't want to open them, but would it be possible to follow the same basic install using SD on my Nook and simply including those pre-made cards in the unopened Nooks or does this stuff have to be done Nook by Nook so to speak?
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Yes, the cards are not specific to one Nook so you can go ahead and make them before.
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So… I went ahead and tried some tweaking. And now I think my stupid is showing.
I was browsing some apps and figured I’d give the Nook Color Tweak one a go since it’s specifically made for rooted NC’s. After I downloaded & installed it, I noticed I can’t overclock the CPU, (heard it’s stable even at 1GHz) or enable USB Host Mode (so I can drag-n-drop eBooks and app files while the NC is connected to a PC). Apparently I need the “Dalingrin's OC kernel”. And that’s where I got intimidated.
I was thinking about this and I think I’m having two “issues”: 1) I’m not sure how to continue tweaking the NC and 2) since this is my first introduction to Android, I think I need to bang through some tutorials and guides for the OS itself before getting myself overwhelmed with the NC stuff. Time to research…
DlickSeals said:
So… I went ahead and tried some tweaking. And now I think my stupid is showing.
I was browsing some apps and figured I’d give the Nook Color Tweak one a go since it’s specifically made for rooted NC’s. After I downloaded & installed it, I noticed I can’t overclock the CPU, (heard it’s stable even at 1GHz) or enable USB Host Mode (so I can drag-n-drop eBooks and app files while the NC is connected to a PC). Apparently I need the “Dalingrin's OC kernel”. And that’s where I got intimidated.
I was thinking about this and I think I’m having two “issues”: 1) I’m not sure how to continue tweaking the NC and 2) since this is my first introduction to Android, I think I need to bang through some tutorials and guides for the OS itself before getting myself overwhelmed with the NC stuff. Time to research…
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First off what CM version are you using? Dal's overclock kernel is included in the latest 7.1 stable.
Also, USB host mode is not dragging and dropping enabling its for connecting USB devices like flash drives to the Nook. To enable dragging and dropping on your computer just plug it in via USB and then select the option to mount as USB.
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Where is the icon for me slamming my head agains the wall? Or wearing a dunce cap? That's not at all what I was thinking the USB mount thing meant. I.D.I.O.T.
As far as the Kernel, I'm actually using the RC 7.1 from the instructions. Everything I read mentioned that it was included which is a large part of why I'm a bit confused on that stuff.
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Where is the icon for me slamming my head agains the wall? Or wearing a dunce cap? That's not at all what I was thinking the USB mount thing meant. I.D.I.O.T.
As far as the Kernel, I'm actually using the RC 7.1 from the instructions. Everything I read mentioned that it was included which is a large part of why I'm a bit confused on that stuff.
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I'm pretty certain that the kernel was added around nightly 150 whitch is after the RC release. Updating is a pretty simple procedure.
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Thanks KK! I did some searching for a nightly and how to flash, but I'm actually thinking about just starting from scratch if only for reference. Since I'm giving 2 as gifts this Christmas, I'd like to have a little handy document & files on a thumbdrive I can follow and get this going. I'm thinking about starting from scratch with a nightly in place of a RC and going from there.
Now I just need to figure a PDF reader that allows me to pinch-zoom.
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Thanks KK! I did some searching for a nightly and how to flash, but I'm actually thinking about just starting from scratch if only for reference. Since I'm giving 2 as gifts this Christmas, I'd like to have a little handy document & files on a thumbdrive I can follow and get this going. I'm thinking about starting from scratch with a nightly in place of a RC and going from there.
Now I just need to figure a PDF reader that allows me to pinch-zoom.
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EZ PDF reader is what I use.
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Hi all,
My wife just got a Nook Color for Christmas and I'm itching to root it. Both of our OG evos are rooted and I'm fairly competent with customizing the ever living crap out of them (I'm running MIUI and love it).
I'm looking for suggestions for a cool but most importantly STABLE setup for her nook color. I see there aren't as many options as the Evo, and the rooting process seems a bit more involved, but I'm sure I can figure that part out.
I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery? Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
Thanks everyone!
Your best bet is CM7.1 on a SD card. Just make sure that's an SanDisk Class 4 card, otherwise the performance will be quite miserable. Just grep the CM7.1 zip, the latest gapps-gb zip and greens sd installer and do it. You will be done in 15 min and you will never go back. I got my NC also for x-mas and used CM7.1 on a SD card for 2 days before I installed it on the internal memory (emmc).
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[...] I already ran the 1.41 update and read all of the basic steps for root. She doesn't want to lose the B&N functionality (not sure why), so is my best bet just to root it with a bootable SD without loading CWM recovery?
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates. It's provides what I refer to as the "B&N Walled Garden (with a gate)". It's straight B&N in terms of functionality, and all the B&N functions (subscriptions, Conde Nast mags and enhanced books,free read-in-store) work fine. If she intends to use any of the B&N content, it's a nice experience. If she doesn't, then, frankly, you can do a lot more a lot more easily with Cyanogenmod loaded on it.
Using manualnooter that would just leave her with the B&N functions but would also install an alternate launcher and allow her to install android market and 3rd party apps, correct?
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If you root the B&N software, yes.
Alternately, you could load Cyanogenmod either internally on eMMC (replacing B&N), or externally, in a dual-boot SD configuration, which would let you leave the BN setup stock or rooted. The two remain completely separate from each other.
I've done quite a bit of reading up but I just want to get some opinions...she's afraid I'm going to "mess it up" like I've done to my evo quite a few times, but its never been anything a clean wipe can't fix so I don't see the issue haha.
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The NC is pretty bullet-proof. If you decide to root B&N firmware, be sure to block automatic OTA updates, or it will self-destruct when they push an update, and it will be your fault, buster!
I've rooted my wife's new Nook Tablet, and she's quite enamored with it. Adding functionality from the Market has been a big plus, and I've got her music synchronized with our Google TV setup as well.
Thanks both of you. I went the route of booting CM7 from the SD card and it was actually really easy and runs pretty flawlessly. Unfortunately my wife is a pain and doesn't seem to appreciate how much better it is so she just sticks with the stock stuff 99% of the time haha. I might have to get my own now just out of principle!
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You can always add a few Market apps to her mostly-stock setup with the Nook Color App Manager. I used it to add a few apps to my wife's rooted Nook Tablet. If I hadn't told her, she'd have thought those were stock apps.
But yeah, definitely get your own!
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I've rooted 1.4.1 on my Nook Color and blocked further updates.
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How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
zogg44 said:
How did you block updates? I've seen several mentions about doing this but nothing definitive. Thanks!
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I edited devicemanager.db using SQLite. Open devicemanager.db and change registry->com.bn.device.fota.mode from "auto" to "manual".
That's all I've done, and no further OTA updates. There are more involved methods, but this seems to work.
Hi I'm new to this forum and new to the nook world. My parents recently bought my son a nook hd for Xmas and he really likes it but as I help him go thru it we see there isn't a whole lot you can do with it and there doesn't seem to be many apps that he can use. I've done some searching online and on you tube on how to root and have come across a lot of info to set the nook as an android but they were all for nook color. Some of the features these videos offered would certainly be things I know my son would enjoy. The other thing I came across was rooting the nook without voiding the warranty, is this something that can be done? Any help and direction will be much appreciated. My apologies if this is something that has already been posted I tried searching but wasn't lucky finding such a thread.
I personally own an ipad mini so no too familiar with the nook so this is certainly new territory for me. Thanks in advance for your help.
Rooting will void your warranty. However, you can install an Android ROM, called CM10, to a microsd card and run it off of the card, never touching the HD's internal storage. For more info see this thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35842612
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Techmomof5 said:
Hi I'm new to this forum and new to the nook world. My parents recently bought my son a nook hd for Xmas and he really likes it but as I help him go thru it we see there isn't a whole lot you can do with it and there doesn't seem to be many apps that he can use. I've done some searching online and on you tube on how to root and have come across a lot of info to set the nook as an android but they were all for nook color. Some of the features these videos offered would certainly be things I know my son would enjoy. The other thing I came across was rooting the nook without voiding the warranty, is this something that can be done? Any help and direction will be much appreciated. My apologies if this is something that has already been posted I tried searching but wasn't lucky finding such a thread.
I personally own an ipad mini so no too familiar with the nook so this is certainly new territory for me. Thanks in advance for your help.
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You actually don't have to worry about warranty with rooting, there is a simple way to restore to complete stock. Just reboot 8 times, interupting the process before it completes. Go here if you want to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613, CM10 is still a little buggy...
PS, rebooting means holding down the power button 10 sec to completely turn off.
This is true. I actually prefer rooted stock to CM10 as of now. For someone just starting out, my advice would still be to install CM10 to an SD card. They can play around with it and see what their HD or HD+ can do when it's unfettered. And they don't have to worry about messing up their Nook, ot about B&N updates taking root away. Then, when they feel more confident, they can root stock and really enjoy their Nook. But either approach will work fine in the end!
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You actually don't have to worry about warranty with rooting, there is a simple way to restore to complete stock. Just reboot 8 times, interupting the process before it completes. Go here if you want to root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613, CM10 is still a little buggy...
PS, rebooting means holding down the power button 10 sec to completely turn off.
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Thank you so much for this information. I do have some more questions to your post. How exactly would I reboot, do you mean reboot the nook 8 times how would I do this process. Also, we have purchased some apps so if we do the rooting, will my son lose those apps, will we need to back up the nook before rooting. Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I have the full understanding before I proceed. Thanks!
For what it is worth, the nook hd already has Android ice cream sandwich installed. It is the home screen launcher and omission of certain Google apps that make it appear limited. In fact, without rooting, you can follow instructions posted at B&N's website how to sideload an alternate launcher and many Android apps to unleash lots of features.
E.g., Chrome works perfectly when side loaded. In order to side load without root, install on a PC the nook hd drivers, the android SDK, the nook HD SDK, and then use the android debug bridge from a command prompt to install apps (*.apk format) to a connected nook. Also, epubs from the Google Play store should be accessible via the Sony Reader android app if side loaded. I installed launcher pro, drop box, amazon kindle, Sony Reader, amazon mp3, Facebook, yahoo mail, adobe acrobat Reader, and neutron player without a problem. You can still access all the standard B&N apps by toggling between launchers with the n button. I did all this yesterday on 2.0.5. B&N posted in their online developer Web pages incredibly specific directions on how to set up windows, Mac and Linux to side load.
set an afternoon aside as it is tedious, but follow the instructions at
https://nookdeveloper.zendesk.com/entries/21943338-nook-developer-start-up-guide#_Sideloading
Note that the instructions are directed to downloading your own written apps. However, you can download Android apk files all over the web and side load them to the nook using the described process.
Enjoy and good luck!
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Thank you so much for this information. I do have some more questions to your post. How exactly would I reboot, do you mean reboot the nook 8 times how would I do this process. Also, we have purchased some apps so if we do the rooting, will my son lose those apps, will we need to back up the nook before rooting. Sorry for all the questions I just want to make sure I have the full understanding before I proceed. Thanks!
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If you want to completely reset the device to the way it was when you first took it out of the box (unrooted, unregistered, and all your added stuff erased), then you interrupt the boot process 8 times in a row by holding the power button so it shuts off again before completing the start up.
Rooting gives you the ability to do more with your Nook, but all of the B&N interface is accessible too. As long as the Nook is registered to the B&N account with his apps, they'll still be available.
I don't know how old your son is but be aware that parental controls available with the B&N profiles only applies to the B&N interface.
It's a good idea to backup. The tool which allows you to root also has the option to back it up if you want.
Thanks to everyone that helped so I did the Root/Gapps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 and it all works my son is excited but now we just need to know how to install other apps on there. We have the google play which is nice, is there a way to install android market, and amazon kindle...all that good stuff. once I get the how to for dummies i think I should be all set lol. Thanks again for any and all help.
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Thanks to everyone that helped so I did the Root/Gapps from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2062613 and it all works my son is excited but now we just need to know how to install other apps on there. We have the google play which is nice, is there a way to install android market, and amazon kindle...all that good stuff. once I get the how to for dummies i think I should be all set lol. Thanks again for any and all help.
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Android market is the same as Play Store. You can get Amazon kindle there. Just register with Google in the Play Store and all that stuff becomes available.
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Hi there,
My son has been having a great time with the nook being rooted. He did run into a problem and I certainly don't know how to fix it. When he goes into setting and selects General he gets the following message "unfortunately, settings has stopped" and he only gets this when he selects General. He was trying to set the dim settings timer and screen shut off but can't do so. Any way to fix this? Thanks!
Techmomof5 said:
Hi there,
My son has been having a great time with the nook being rooted. He did run into a problem and I certainly don't know how to fix it. When he goes into setting and selects General he gets the following message "unfortunately, settings has stopped" and he only gets this when he selects General. He was trying to set the dim settings timer and screen shut off but can't do so. Any way to fix this? Thanks!
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Try not to double post questions. It gets confusing for us. I answered in my thread earlier.
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Hands down you can not go wrong rooting and running android on the Nook....let's face it, Nook apps suck..play store rocks..lots of free goodies