Reasons for Kernel Change? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What are the reasons for trying different Kernels? I have Flashed to Darky's 7.5 and I am not big into playing games on my phone just basic Calling,Texting some simple games. Are there some Big advantages I could benefit from if I OC/UV with different Kernel?
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RonH54 said:
What are the reasons for trying different Kernels? I have Flashed to Darky's 7.5 and I am not big into playing games on my phone just basic Calling,Texting some simple games. Are there some Big advantages I could benefit from if I OC/UV with different Kernel?
Thanks
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Overclocking will make the phone faster and undervolting will give you better battery life as you crank up your processor speed but both can mess with your phone as you get toward extremes on both ends. Overclock too much and your phone goes crazy. Undervolt too much and you get sleeping death and stuff like that.
With the type of user you are I would recommend xcal's kernel, a 2.2.1 rom and do not enable the lagfix, which I believe Darky's rom fits the bill. You will not notice a difference in performance and you won't have to deal with an issues relating to oc/uv. If you are a hardcore gamer then you might need to oc but I play asphalt 5 all the time with neither and never have any issues with lag or stutter.

Roof King said:
Overclocking will make the phone faster and undervolting will give you better battery life as you crank up your processor speed but both can mess with your phone as you get toward extremes on both ends. Overclock too much and your phone goes crazy. Undervolt too much and you get sleeping death and stuff like that.
With the type of user you are I would recommend xcal's kernel, a 2.2.1 rom and do not enable the lagfix, which I believe Darky's rom fits the bill. You will not notice a difference in performance and you won't have to deal with an issues relating to oc/uv. If you are a hardcore gamer then you might need to oc but I play asphalt 5 all the time with neither and never have any issues with lag or stutter.
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Thanks for reply. I just love to tinker with things so though I will probably not fool with changing Kernel now I am sure I'll get the itch and try it once to see how I like OC and UV at some point......
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I would suggest glitterballs kernel, it is based on 2.2.1 source, uses voodoo which you can choose to disable, and is oc to 1200 but you can opt not to oc. I find it to be very stable
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mcord11758 said:
I would suggest glitterballs kernel, it is based on 2.2.1 source, uses voodoo which you can choose to disable, and is oc to 1200 but you can opt not to oc. I find it to be very stable
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I am getting ready to Flash Darky's 7.7(I have 7.5 now). I think I read that 7.7 has Voodoo enabled when you Flash(before you had to Disable Lag fix to get Voodoo). Will glitterballs kernel work with 7.7 and Voodoo already installed? Also is this the the glitterball you talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887315
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Speedmod kernel that just came out is good and snappy. Its a battery sipper too!!! And no OC/UV.

silverslotcar said:
Speedmod kernel that just came out is good and snappy. Its a battery sipper too!!! And no OC/UV.
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I have read that a lot of guys really liking Speedmod but if I read correctly you can't have Voodoo running and Voodoo runs with Darky 7.7 Flash automatically. I am sure there a way to disable Voodoo in 7.7 I just need to find out how. Or I can be completely wrong about SpeedMod and Voodoo.

RonH54 said:
I am getting ready to Flash Darky's 7.7(I have 7.5 now). I think I read that 7.7 has Voodoo enabled when you Flash(before you had to Disable Lag fix to get Voodoo). Will glitterballs kernel work with 7.7 and Voodoo already installed? Also is this the the glitterball you talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887315
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Yes that is the kernel I was talking about
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Related

[Kernel] Dragon 3.6

Download link: http://goo.gl/vzEB4
FAQs: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11436660&postcount=11 (Thanks Alienz!)
Yes, the kernel is still based on the i9000 JPX source release. Hopefully we get real source soon.
Main Features:
NEAR STOCK BATTERY!!! (Thanks Morfic!)
Overclock up to 1.4Ghz.
BLN (Backlight Notifications).. A basic app is included to turn it on if you want it
Voodoo lagfix v5
Voodoo Sound v4
Many parts of the "speedmod" patch from the i9000 forum
OC is based on raspdep's OC patches, also from the i9000 forum
Various speed tweaks
CIFS/SMB and NFS support compiled in (no modules)
Tunnel support compiled in (no modules)
Changes since 3.2:
New boot logo. (Thanks Alexia!)
Added battery drain fix in standby discovered by Morfic. Should be about the same battery as stock now.
Voltages and frequency scaling have been adjusted to more quickly jump to higher frequencies and come down slower. Improves response time while you use the phone.
The Voltage Control app has the correct voltages, I recommend leaving the lower speeds alone to start with. Going too low can cause the sleep of death. That's why they are as high as they are. NOTE: The voltage control app does not control the available states they way the older ones do. That screen is useless, ignore it. Set your max and scheduler if you wish, and the voltages if you want to change them.
SetCPU.... If you want to use it, you can have it set min/max. If you set profiles, don't set the max under 800. The phone needs 800 to be available. I use a screen off profile at 100-800 just to keep the OC disabled while sleeping. No reason it should need to really crank up the speed if I'm not looking at it. SetCPU is NOT required, I'm offering this as a tip for fans of that application.
The kernel has proven stable for a number of testers so far. If you get crashes, disable any OC/UV settings and try again. I recommend you only change one setting at a time, and NOT set at boot until you have run for a while to ensure you can run stable at that voltage/speed.
Great job testing it out now. Edit: screen is a little dark but the kernel is super smooth
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Going to test! Will post results in a couple of hours.
onix
I am considering flashing this new kernel but have a couple of questions I would like to ask first. I am currently on Bionix V 1.21 and love it. Is this kernel compatible with Bionix V 1.21? It appears that this kernel is Voodoo enabled so I presume I would not have to disable voodoo. If I decide to go back to the Kb1 with voodoo enabled which I believe is the stock kernel for Bionix V 1.21 would i just flash the kernel( is is available on TW forum?)or would I have to flash the whole rom again? I would think I would not have to but want to be sure before I leap. I would not like to have to ask for help for problems that could have been avoided by reading and asking questions. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
Is it ok to not use set cpu? Will this kernel will oc over 1000?
ttabbal said:
Download link: http://goo.gl/vzEB4
Yes, the kernel is still based on the i9000 JPX source release. Hopefully we get real source soon.
Main Features:
Voodoo lagfix v5
Voodoo Sound v4
Many parts of the "speedmod" patch from the i9000 forum
OC is based on raspdep's OC patches, also from the i9000 forum
Various speed tweaks
CIFS/SMB and NFS support compiled in (no modules)
Tunnel support compiled in (no modules)
Changes since 3.2:
New boot logo. (Thanks Alexia!)
Added battery drain fix in standby discovered by Morfic. Should be about the same battery as stock now.
Voltages and frequency scaling have been adjusted to more quickly jump to higher frequencies and come down slower. Improves response time while you use the phone.
The Voltage Control app has the correct voltages, I recommend leaving the lower speeds alone to start with. Going too low can cause the sleep of death. That's why they are as high as they are. NOTE: The voltage control app does not control the available states they way the older ones do. That screen is useless, ignore it. Set your max and scheduler if you wish, and the voltages if you want to change them.
SetCPU.... If you want to use it, you can have it set min/max. If you set profiles, don't set the max under 800. The phone needs 800 to be available. I use a screen off profile at 100-800 just to keep the OC disabled while sleeping. No reason it should need to really crank up the speed if I'm not looking at it.
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This kernel is much more stable for me than the dow kernel. Great work.
tenbeau said:
I am considering flashing this new kernel but have a couple of questions I would like to ask first. I am currently on Bionix V 1.21 and love it. Is this kernel compatible with Bionix V 1.21? It appears that this kernel is Voodoo enabled so I presume I would not have to disable voodoo. If I decide to go back to the Kb1 with voodoo enabled which I believe is the stock kernel for Bionix V 1.21 would i just flash the kernel( is is available on TW forum?)or would I have to flash the whole rom again? I would think I would not have to but want to be sure before I leap. I would not like to have to ask for help for problems that could have been avoided by reading and asking questions. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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Im not sure if you have to disable voodoo or not .. probably not but don’t take my word for it and no you do not have to flash the whole rom again, just the kernel. Thanks for not clogging up the forums. Lol I know its hard to ask questions in the vibrant forums, (cause you'll get beaten to death with mean comments) but ask them anyway, someone will answer eventually. Ignore the whiny, ungrateful 2 year olds that somehow wandered onto this forum...
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I flashed without disabling voodoo
treyvaporizer said:
Im not sure if you have to disable voodoo or not .. probably not but don’t take my word for it and no you do not have to flash the whole rom again, just the kernel. Thanks for not clogging up the forums. Lol I know its hard to ask questions in the vibrant forums, (cause you'll get beaten to death with mean comments) but ask them anyway, someone will answer eventually. Ignore the whiny, ungrateful 2 year olds that somehow wandered onto this forum...
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tenbeau said:
I am considering flashing this new kernel but have a couple of questions I would like to ask first. I am currently on Bionix V 1.21 and love it. Is this kernel compatible with Bionix V 1.21? It appears that this kernel is Voodoo enabled so I presume I would not have to disable voodoo. If I decide to go back to the Kb1 with voodoo enabled which I believe is the stock kernel for Bionix V 1.21 would i just flash the kernel( is is available on TW forum?)or would I have to flash the whole rom again? I would think I would not have to but want to be sure before I leap. I would not like to have to ask for help for problems that could have been avoided by reading and asking questions. Any and all help is greatly appreciated.
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It is compatible with Bionix 1.2.1, that's what I developed it on.
If you have the red voodoo recovery, there is no need to disable voodoo for flashing. Generally speaking, kernels can be flashed without disabling voodoo in any case.
This is what iv'e done, I've lowered my Volts on some clocks, 1000 and up, and I was wondering should/can I use setcpu for profiles?
Answers to COMMON questions:
1. Can I flash this over Voodoo or RFS (stock)
You do NOT need to disable Voodoo. Flash right over Voodoo or RFS kernels. Make sure you are not running JFS though. JFS is not supported
2. How is stability? Does it crash? Sleep of death? etc?
Stability on this is AMAZING. It will not crash unless you overclock/undervolt and your settings are unstable. If that is the case, you know its your settings.
3. Do I need SetCPU to overclock?
You do not need to use SetCPU (You can if you want to). Use the Voltage Control App to overclock.
4. How do I overclock? Can I use this without an overclock?
By default, the kernel will boot to 1.0Ghz. To OVERCLOCk to 1.4Ghz (or lower) you need to use the app that this kernel installs during the flash. The app is called "Voltage Controll" and can be found in your app drawer after the flash
5. What is the battery life?
Battery life should be close to stock now. The battery drain issue that was present in the I9000-based kernels earlier has been solved.
6. Does this support BLN (Back-light-notificaations)?
Yes. You need the BLN control app from the market to use it.
7. How do I use Voodoo sound? What is it?
Voodoo sound is a vast improvement to the sound quality of your phone. To use it, download the Voodoo Control app from the Market.
8. What ROMs is this compatible with?
This is compatible with ALL Vibrant Froyo ROMS. This means 2.2 ROMS made for the Vibrant. 2.2.1 is not yet tested but should theoretically work.
I hope this helps.
ttabbal said:
It is compatible with Bionix 1.2.1, that's what I developed it on.
If you have the red voodoo recovery, there is no need to disable voodoo for flashing. Generally speaking, kernels can be flashed without disabling voodoo in any case.
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Thanks so much for your kind and patient and swift reply. Donation just made. I really admire yours and all of TW generosity and patience with noobs like me. I am flashing the kernel now. Thanks again for sharing your brilliant work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
cashyftw said:
This is what iv'e done, I've lowered my Volts on some clocks, 1000 and up, and I was wondering should/can I use setcpu for profiles?
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You can use setcpu for profiles, just keep 800Mhz available. The phone will likely crash if you don't. I set a screen off profile of 100-800 to keep the oc disabled when I don't need it, as 800 is a lower voltage.
Hint with voltages, try to keep 1000 and higher at the SAME voltage. Changing the voltage too often can cause instability as the voltage regulator doesn't adjust as fast as we would like sometimes. OC makes this worse as you need a higher voltage to maintain a stable CPU at the higher frequency. The kernel is set to jump to 1000, then to the max set clock speed. Setting 1000 to the higher voltage gives us some extra time to stabilize the new voltage before the just into the OC speeds.
tenbeau said:
Thanks so much for your kind and patient and swift reply. Donation just made. I really admire yours and all of TW generosity and patience with noobs like me. I am flashing the kernel now. Thanks again for sharing your brilliant work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for your kind words and the donation. I'm glad you find my work useful.
just flashed this..
and a few questions ive never used OC before..
What does VOODOO Sound really do?
I set my thing on SetCPU as 1.4ghz as max and .1 as low with conservative.
then a profile with screen off and on conservative.
will those save battery?
xriderx66 said:
just flashed this..
and a few questions ive never used OC before..
What does VOODOO Sound really do?
I set my thing on SetCPU as 1.4ghz as max and .1 as low with conservative.
then a profile with screen off and on conservative.
will those save battery?
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SetCPU by itself will NOT overclock. You need to use the Voltage app that comes with the kernel. See my above post with the Common questions.
I'd like any of the kernels developers gave me a clue about an issue im having with all custom i9000 based kernels (eugene's and TW's). The problem is with line2 voip app which calls isn't heard in the other end when running these kernels, but in stock/voodoo it works just fine. Please any of you have an idea of what could be going wrong?
thanks.
Okay tested so far, everything is working good (undervolted to about 175 for lower clocks 100-1000 and 75 for higher clocked 1200-1400)
Don't try this, as every phone can't handle some things, i'm just stating.
EDIT: I'm seriously stupid, how do I remove the settings again? I know it's in system/ something
Edit: NEVERMIND fixed
I've never used an OC kernel, was thinking of giving it a try. If I decide its not for me is this like removing a voodoo injected kernel, disable, then flash a diff kernel then delete files?
kcp877 said:
I've never used an OC kernel, was thinking of giving it a try. If I decide its not for me is this like removing a voodoo injected kernel, disable, then flash a diff kernel then delete files?
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Just flash other voodoo kernel on top of it no need.to.disable voodoo
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[KERNEL] KA6 Source + Voodoo.zip

So this is my first kernel. Yes it is very basic and doesn't have all the bells and wissles like other kernels out there, but after initial boot, my phone does seem to boot in 5 - 10 seconds, which is faster than any kernel I have tried. This is a test kernel but is stable, I am just looking for some feedback.
Kernel :
Stock KA6 Source
Voodoo5
I plan on adding more to it such as speed mods, voodoo sound and color, but that is to come. Thanks.
Will try out your kernels when a few other features are added on as there already are great close-to-stock kernels like OverStock and Categorically Worthless. Keep up the good work, though! I hope you end up with a great stock-ish kernel as much as I love stock simplicity and battery life; but Voodoo Sound is a must.
jaetm83 said:
Will try out your kernels when a few other features are added on as there already are great close-to-stock kernels like OverStock and Categorically Worthless. Keep up the good work, though! I hope you end up with a great stock-ish kernel as much as I love stock simplicity and battery life; but Voodoo Sound is a must.
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Thanks for the input. I did just get BLN into the kernel, will be working on sound and color next. Then eventually speed and mem.
gonna try out,
give feedback in a bit.
jzero88 said:
Thanks for the input. I did just get BLN into the kernel, will be working on sound and color next. Then eventually speed and mem.
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And maybe to oc 1.3
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Ok i see thiss kernel is good...i tried it and seems good but went back to dragon so ill wait for you to add voodoo..color and sound..i want to know if you can add the red voodoo recovery.....and also add oc lik @ 1.3 GHz soo it runs smooth ....and ram Like 235 mb or more...you know ., things like that...or you know . There are people who likes it without oc and ram soo you should make one like i said and one without the oc and all that.....think about it brother....it would be nice frkm you
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bosina said:
Ok i see thiss kernel is good...i tried it and seems good but went back to dragon so ill wait for you to add voodoo..color and sound..i want to know if you can add the red voodoo recovery.....and also add oc lik @ 1.3 GHz soo it runs smooth ....and ram Like 235 mb or more...you know ., things like that...or you know . There are people who likes it without oc and ram soo you should make one like i said and one without the oc and all that.....think about it brother....it would be nice frkm you
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Yup, all the good stuff like OC and UV will be added as well. This is a learning process for me but appreciate the feedback everyone.
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I'd vote for a bone stock with/without voodoo option sans BLN with battery life in mind. I know some of us bailed on the BLN kernels because of battery issues when using them with noled. Not sure if anyone ever figured out how to get around it. Seems like anyone using noled had battery issues on the CW or Overstock kernel even though the performance was much improved.
kcp877 said:
I'd vote for a bone stock with/without voodoo option sans BLN with battery life in mind. I know some of us bailed on the BLN kernels because of battery issues when using them with noled. Not sure if anyone ever figured out how to get around it. Seems like anyone using noled had battery issues on the CW or Overstock kernel even though the performance was much improved.
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Excuse my ignorance, and mean well but, why would you use noled with a BLN equipped kernel. Isn't the point of BLN to already give a visual notification?
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I don't want my phone to light all the soft keys for notification, just want a fast stock kernel
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I don't want my phone to light all the soft keys for notification, just want a fast stock kernel
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Yeah definitely, I dont know if its the BLN or if I still have to tweak the kernel but the battery life does seem a bit mediocre. While not in use it drains about 2 - 4 % and hour which isn't that bad.
I do plan on making several different kernels with different mods in each one. Starting with Bone Stock Kernel to Kernel with all Voodoos, BLN, Mem, Speed, etc.
Still learning how to tweak it. The easy part is compiling
Great work dude... Keep this going, and don't be disheartened if a few people talk crap...
Hope to see this grow into a wonderful kernel and you into a nice Vibdev...
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adyscorpius said:
Great work dude... Keep this going, and don't be disheartened if a few people talk crap...
Hope to see this grow into a wonderful kernel and you into a nice Vibdev...
Sent from Bionix 1.3.1 high on Voodoo
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I second this. Don't let trolls get to you. I wouldn't even dignify them with a response.
Trigger + Overstock = Awesomeness
jzero88 said:
Yup, all the good stuff like OC and UV will be added as well. This is a learning process for me but appreciate the feedback everyone.
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Your Welcome ..And Ill Be Waiting Here, And Testing it so you can do better and better...
jzero88 said:
Yeah definitely, I dont know if its the BLN or if I still have to tweak the kernel but the battery life does seem a bit mediocre. While not in use it drains about 2 - 4 % and hour which isn't that bad.
I do plan on making several different kernels with different mods in each one. Starting with Bone Stock Kernel to Kernel with all Voodoos, BLN, Mem, Speed, etc.
Still learning how to tweak it. The easy part is compiling
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Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
jaetm83 said:
Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
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Haha with 6 million lines of code for a kernel I doubt Ill get through .01% of it
Im just seeing what I can and can't do at this point really, and its been a fun experience!
You know galaxy tuner you can change sound without voodoo sound. On a stock kernel. Can oc. To 1.2 as well for a bit so there is a way without.
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Haha with 6 million lines of code for a kernel I doubt Ill get through .01% of it
Im just seeing what I can and can't do at this point really, and its been a fun experience!
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You now know how much ignorant I have been. Although I learned bits and pieces of Basic/Pascal/C++ back in the days and took a couple of Java classes back in college, I never dealt with anything longer than a thousand lines of codes. Should I praise Samsung now for all that work they've put into building firmwares, and stop whining about Sammy not releasing GB..? =P
But I still hope you focus on rather a simple kernel that may not be as fast as other OC kernels yet is stable and reliable.
mainecrab said:
You know galaxy tuner you can change sound without voodoo sound. On a stock kernel. Can oc. To 1.2 as well for a bit so there is a way without.
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Galaxy Tuner is a good alternative, but it doesn't work in the same way as Voodoo Sound does. supercurio is such an audiophile.
jaetm83 said:
Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
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Were do I get this control app?

[Q] Better performance galaxy?

Hey all
Longtime lurker (i think i have some very old posts in here).
I acquired a galaxy and so far im pretty satisfied. But still only so-so. My wife has the iPhone4, which is also a great phone, and what i envy most about it, is the super fluid, instant response you get while working around the UI. Scrolling, opening programs... everything is incredibly smoot. Not so much on the Galaxy.
I tried doing the lagfix and rooting it also. It helped nicely with the loading times of programs, but the UI still isnt as smooth as the iPhones. And this is something i dont get. The galaxy is one of the most powerfull handsets out there, but still cant reach the lvl of smoothness as you get on an iPhone.
I ran Quadrant after appyling root/lagfix and scored a 2200+. Thats a pretty great score. But still doesnt feel as snappy and responsive as i find it should.
Ok well, what i want to know... is there anything out there that could help improve the UI responsiveness? Another ROM? Another Kernel? Or is this something that is just inherent with Android and/or Samsung, in a way that i will never have that?
First of all, ignore Quadrant. If you rooted and did a lagfix on the stock firmware, then you likely used OCLF. Ext2 from OCLF inflates Quadrant scores due to the looping method it uses. The only real way to judge your phone's speed is out it feels to you, and if it feels sluggish then you have work to do, regardless of the Q score.
I would definitely recommend flashing a new kernel. You should start with Speedmod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756), just because Hardcore's instructions for flashing the first time with Odin are very clear and complete. Follow them exactly and you should be good and then you can use a program like SGS Kernel Flasher to try other options easily (just remember to undo lagfixes and tweaks in between flashes).
Personally I have used Speedmod, Super Optimized and Ultimate Kernel and they are all fast with good performance. For me the best has been Ultimate (with all Ext2 lagfix) but each person and phone are different, so play around with different choices. If you wish to go all out, you can read up here about flashing the Mod as well.
I was also quite dismayed and surprised by the performance of my Galaxy out of the box, but now with a smoking kernel and lagfix in place, it is easily as smooth as iOS.
Good luck, and enjoy.
i think the most important thing is first flash one of the new firmware 2.2.1 like JS7 then it will run already smooth, if thats not enough then you still can flash a newer kernel hardcore or voodoo kernel and lagfix it.
Thanks, lagfix?
Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
jbj said:
Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
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I suggest starting with Speedmod just for Hardcore's great instructions. However, if you are not satisfied or wish to try other options Speedmod can just be your entry drug. Once you have flashed once, you can install Clockwork Mod recovery and SGS Kernel Flasher and really go to town. There are lots of great kernels down in the Android Development thread, I just listed the three I myself have tried. Read up on them, and try the ones that have the features you are looking for.
As for which lagfix, again that is a matter of personal preference. Some say Ext4 is safer, some say Ext2 is faster, some are jfs fans, some say even stranger things. Each kernel has a different approach, as well. Again, take solid backups with SGS Kernel Flasher or ROM Manager and try each method for yourself. Just remember, be home when the clock strikes midnight, and undo all lagfixes and tweaks before flashing each time (and remember, if you used OCLF to do your current lagfix, you need to go back into that app and undo all it's changes before flashing Speedmod, or BAD things will happen).
Let's not forget about basic things, like wiping the phone?
I was actually looking for exactly the same things, and I was changing kernels, roms, themes, etc. etc. while I realised it's not just that.
Go one step further, and what I found is that under Zeam launcher everything seems snappier(the kleine crocodile), than before.
I also disposed all theme, and extra stuff, that made the rom "heavier".
I cooked my own ROM in doc's kitchen, and indeed used hardcore's kernel with ext4 lagfix.
Not only the phone is pretty close to the iphone responsiveness, but the battery life is also great!
2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
im using newest rom from doc's kitchen with supercurios kernel.
i used zeam launcher before which didn't feel snappy, i'm now using Launcher Pro which just feels alot snappier.
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2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
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forget the scores, yours with just 1100 could be faster than one with 2200 in daily use.
A friend of me has a iphone4 and I also think that the iphone4 is just smoother than the galaxy s.
I'm on darky 9.3 with voodoo lagfix (which is included in the rom) but still I have laggs on screen. My sister just bought a htc incredible S and its also very smooth but again not as smooth as the iphone4. I just personaly think that apple has made there a good job...but there is alot what I don't like at the iphone4.
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I agree. I've tried many new custom roms and lagfixes, and although they help, they still don't seem to make the phone reliably and constantly smooth. I occasionally still have some UI lag or freezing. I praise 2.2.1 for making the phone feel as smooth with RFS as it does on EXT4 though, and now I usually don't bother "lagfixing" the phone
I use TouchWiz, so I think inherent bugs in the UI are at least partially to blame. I noticed using a 3rd party launcher generally felt a bit smoother than TW, even though I like the TW layout. I'm going to reformat the phone and load JS8 with Speedmod and am leaning towards using the latest GO Launcher as my default to see if there's any noticeable long term improvement in smoothness
really everyone is going lag fix lag fix hardware way? seriously the TW launcher is the problem , its NATURALLY LAGGY , imo get Laucher pro you want silky smooth get launcher pro and set it as default home sure as hell looks better and is more fluid than any other loader out there , not one NOT ONE little hiccup ever just soo silky smooth , never even a slight tiny tiny not even micro second lag , app planet > launcher pro > facebook widget > messages widget > normal background not live > 3-5 pages = win
But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Well now after a day I have to say, this is the best launcher so far (go launcher). I haven't ever experienced such smoothness on my Galaxy S. So for everyone whos haveing trouble with lagg on screen, try the go launcher. It is even verx nice customisable
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i'm using sm k13a. it gives me very good battery life, better than k13c.

[Q] Fastest Captivate 2.3 Rom?

Which of the current 2.3 ROMs is considered the fastest/most responsive? Or which ROM would be considered the fastest based on the mods & tweaks used by the developers? I'm not to versed in the technical side of things to discern which tweaks/mods/kernels/etc give way to the most stability, speed, and response and would like the community's opinions on the matter.
Probably CM7, I just started using it and there is never any lag. I haven't even OC'd it yet. This also comes with the price of having to live off a wall charger though.
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If you mean fastest in clock speeds, then thats a balance betwen rawr clock and how much battery life you can get out of it. Keep in mind these phones clock easily 1.2ghz-1.3ghz no issues past that you need to increase the voltage. So you can in theory get 1.6ghz-1.8ghz but you will live next to a charger. If you mean fastest on how it feels Id have to say Continuum moved awesome few months back (haven't used it in a while) Atomic Fusion if the ext4 version comes out. But there you should just test them out.
On a side not if you want to OC your phone and not have to pay for the oc app, then Id suggest you stick to I9000 ports or AOSP's like CM7 or MIUI. Native roms like Cognition 5, Atomic Fusion and Nuclear Fusion need Tegrak for OC/UV.
Which of the I9000s seem to run the fastest/smoothest? I've been looking at Dlev and Darky but how does Apex/Symply GS II/Mosaic/Sensation compare?
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Keep in mind these phones clock easily 1.2ghz-1.3ghz no issues past that you need to increase the voltage. So you can in theory get 1.6ghz-1.8ghz but you will live next to a charger.
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I actually read in the Glitch kernel thread that when overclocking, higher voltages doesn't always mean more stability. I'm OC'd at 1.5ghz right now really stable and I was UV'd at -50mv but I just dropped it to -75mv to see if its stable there. I'll keep dropping it till I have issues.
Oh yeah, and CM7's battery life has got WAY better over time, so I'm not having to worry about charging all the time either.
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I actually read in the Glitch kernel thread that when overclocking, higher voltages doesn't always mean more stability. I'm OC'd at 1.5ghz right now really stable and I was UV'd at -50mv but I just dropped it to -75mv to see if its stable there. I'll keep dropping it till I have issues.
Oh yeah, and CM7's battery life has got WAY better over time, so I'm not having to worry about charging all the time either.
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From my experience to maintain a stable phone i over volt the "step" that's overclocked, and then undervolt the other "steps". Im by no means a expert nor is there a full proof way to do it. Each phone kinda reacts differently on the overclocking past 1.2-1.3ghz.
Which of the I9000 roms should theoretically run faster due to the tweaks/mods used by the developers without the need to overclock?
There if no need to overclock for daily use. Only if you are playing very demanding games. And only during those games.
As for fastest rom....have a search this question gets asked a lot with always the same answer and result:
There is no best rom, all phones are different as well as tastes, what's best for me on my device may not be on yours. Flash and try a few and make you own decision...
CM7 is fastest but Display and Sound quality is not as good as stock ROM .
Before school started for me and i couldnt access a charger when i wanted to, i used MIUI at a stable 1.6 GHz ALL of the time with odemand govenor and i got like 18 hours with moderate use, on Glitch V12! And you dont need to overvolt for higher speeds i have tested it and its better to undervolt higher clocks, i get better battery and performance!
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For the 10th time Each phone reacts differently to Overclocking. There is no sure way to get it OC/Uv. On my phone past 1.2ghz i need to over volt.
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For the 10th time Each phone reacts differently to Overclocking. There is no sure way to get it OC/Uv. On my phone past 1.2ghz i need to over volt.
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Well i ran 1.6 GHz undervolted at ever clock speed fine, had better performance than over volting, so its different
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Should i run an overclocked kernel or a standard one ?

I just had a long time doubt and wanted to get a clear picture, is over-clocking harmful to the device ?
Or is it just the rated capacity of the processor that is utilized while over-clocking ? I also tried an OC version of notecore before which was slower than the STD version and hence from then on i never looked for over-clocking. But now with notecore OC becoming the standard release i would like to know about the options. thanks in advance.
Akilesh said:
I just had a long time doubt and wanted to get a clear picture, is over-clocking harmful to the device ?
Or is it just the rated capacity of the processor that is utilized while over-clocking ? I also tried an OC version of notecore before which was slower than the STD version and hence from then on i never looked for over-clocking. But now with notecore OC becoming the standard release i would like to know about the options. thanks in advance.
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What rom are you on? You definitely can handle the oc notecore, because you can ran it in your device. I think the oc slow your device compared to standard because of some of init d scripts that humpers the full potential of oc. But if you say im in cleanote rom then i dont know why, only g. lewarne can diagnose it.
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What rom are you on? You definitely can handle the oc notecore, because you can ran it in your device. I think the oc slow your device compared to standard because of some of init d scripts that humpers the full potential of oc. But if you say im in cleanote rom then i dont know why, only g. lewarne can diagnose it.
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You may find that your Note would reboot itself randomly! It may even not be able to complete Quadrant test when you flash oc Notecore kernel for example. The CPU temperature goes over 65c. That is whay happened to mine. So, I just flashed back to the standard version. Everything is then fine.
My Note has got VoltGroup B.
No need of a overclocked kernel..a, standard kernel is fine
It realldy depends on how you will use your sgnote. I for one uses it only for internet browsing,some games and alot of sms and calls so I prefer the Standard Notecore but if you want to get more kick out of your device then you can use the OC one. But as all OC on a device may or will drain the battery alot faster.
Agreed. I use the note for just calls, text and email. So I think I'll stay with standard one. Thank you all.
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To overclock or not
That depends: Like yourself, I also use the Notecore kernel. If the Note is a secondary phone and you dont actually depend on it for your day to dayaffairs, then there probably wouldn't be any harm using the overclocked version. Now , keep in mind that when you do, you are more likely to see the phone freeze up once in a while, and thus, you'll have to reboot. I once loaded the OC version of Notecore on my Note and i got very empressive results on the Quadrant benchmark app.
On the other hand; if you are like me in that you are heavily dependant on your Note for a lot of day to day stuff and having your note freeze up in the middle of a very important business call or while your using the gps to find somewhere is totally unacceptable; then I would reccomend the standard speed. For my purpose, I find that the standard Notecore kernel is considerabely fast in of itself. If i have to choose between speed and stability, I'll choose stability every time.
I've tried a number of different kernels and every one of them has made my phone freeze up....except the Notecore. The Notecore is the only custom kernel that I've never seen my Note hang on.
My two cents worth...
I keep switching between Notecore and speedmod from time to time. But I keep coming back to Notecore always when there is an update.
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Gavin announced the launch of Notecore V13 for tonight (GMT)...changelog (on page 511) sounds very interesting!
Also Franco is gonna come back with a beastly kernel soon.
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I do not feel any differences with an oc kernel, maybe it's just me. btw Goku's kernel worth the try

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