So this is my first kernel. Yes it is very basic and doesn't have all the bells and wissles like other kernels out there, but after initial boot, my phone does seem to boot in 5 - 10 seconds, which is faster than any kernel I have tried. This is a test kernel but is stable, I am just looking for some feedback.
Kernel :
Stock KA6 Source
Voodoo5
I plan on adding more to it such as speed mods, voodoo sound and color, but that is to come. Thanks.
Will try out your kernels when a few other features are added on as there already are great close-to-stock kernels like OverStock and Categorically Worthless. Keep up the good work, though! I hope you end up with a great stock-ish kernel as much as I love stock simplicity and battery life; but Voodoo Sound is a must.
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Will try out your kernels when a few other features are added on as there already are great close-to-stock kernels like OverStock and Categorically Worthless. Keep up the good work, though! I hope you end up with a great stock-ish kernel as much as I love stock simplicity and battery life; but Voodoo Sound is a must.
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Thanks for the input. I did just get BLN into the kernel, will be working on sound and color next. Then eventually speed and mem.
gonna try out,
give feedback in a bit.
jzero88 said:
Thanks for the input. I did just get BLN into the kernel, will be working on sound and color next. Then eventually speed and mem.
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And maybe to oc 1.3
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Ok i see thiss kernel is good...i tried it and seems good but went back to dragon so ill wait for you to add voodoo..color and sound..i want to know if you can add the red voodoo recovery.....and also add oc lik @ 1.3 GHz soo it runs smooth ....and ram Like 235 mb or more...you know ., things like that...or you know . There are people who likes it without oc and ram soo you should make one like i said and one without the oc and all that.....think about it brother....it would be nice frkm you
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bosina said:
Ok i see thiss kernel is good...i tried it and seems good but went back to dragon so ill wait for you to add voodoo..color and sound..i want to know if you can add the red voodoo recovery.....and also add oc lik @ 1.3 GHz soo it runs smooth ....and ram Like 235 mb or more...you know ., things like that...or you know . There are people who likes it without oc and ram soo you should make one like i said and one without the oc and all that.....think about it brother....it would be nice frkm you
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Yup, all the good stuff like OC and UV will be added as well. This is a learning process for me but appreciate the feedback everyone.
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I'd vote for a bone stock with/without voodoo option sans BLN with battery life in mind. I know some of us bailed on the BLN kernels because of battery issues when using them with noled. Not sure if anyone ever figured out how to get around it. Seems like anyone using noled had battery issues on the CW or Overstock kernel even though the performance was much improved.
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I'd vote for a bone stock with/without voodoo option sans BLN with battery life in mind. I know some of us bailed on the BLN kernels because of battery issues when using them with noled. Not sure if anyone ever figured out how to get around it. Seems like anyone using noled had battery issues on the CW or Overstock kernel even though the performance was much improved.
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Excuse my ignorance, and mean well but, why would you use noled with a BLN equipped kernel. Isn't the point of BLN to already give a visual notification?
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I don't want my phone to light all the soft keys for notification, just want a fast stock kernel
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I don't want my phone to light all the soft keys for notification, just want a fast stock kernel
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Yeah definitely, I dont know if its the BLN or if I still have to tweak the kernel but the battery life does seem a bit mediocre. While not in use it drains about 2 - 4 % and hour which isn't that bad.
I do plan on making several different kernels with different mods in each one. Starting with Bone Stock Kernel to Kernel with all Voodoos, BLN, Mem, Speed, etc.
Still learning how to tweak it. The easy part is compiling
Great work dude... Keep this going, and don't be disheartened if a few people talk crap...
Hope to see this grow into a wonderful kernel and you into a nice Vibdev...
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adyscorpius said:
Great work dude... Keep this going, and don't be disheartened if a few people talk crap...
Hope to see this grow into a wonderful kernel and you into a nice Vibdev...
Sent from Bionix 1.3.1 high on Voodoo
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I second this. Don't let trolls get to you. I wouldn't even dignify them with a response.
Trigger + Overstock = Awesomeness
jzero88 said:
Yup, all the good stuff like OC and UV will be added as well. This is a learning process for me but appreciate the feedback everyone.
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Your Welcome ..And Ill Be Waiting Here, And Testing it so you can do better and better...
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Yeah definitely, I dont know if its the BLN or if I still have to tweak the kernel but the battery life does seem a bit mediocre. While not in use it drains about 2 - 4 % and hour which isn't that bad.
I do plan on making several different kernels with different mods in each one. Starting with Bone Stock Kernel to Kernel with all Voodoos, BLN, Mem, Speed, etc.
Still learning how to tweak it. The easy part is compiling
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Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
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Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
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Haha with 6 million lines of code for a kernel I doubt Ill get through .01% of it
Im just seeing what I can and can't do at this point really, and its been a fun experience!
You know galaxy tuner you can change sound without voodoo sound. On a stock kernel. Can oc. To 1.2 as well for a bit so there is a way without.
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Haha with 6 million lines of code for a kernel I doubt Ill get through .01% of it
Im just seeing what I can and can't do at this point really, and its been a fun experience!
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You now know how much ignorant I have been. Although I learned bits and pieces of Basic/Pascal/C++ back in the days and took a couple of Java classes back in college, I never dealt with anything longer than a thousand lines of codes. Should I praise Samsung now for all that work they've put into building firmwares, and stop whining about Sammy not releasing GB..? =P
But I still hope you focus on rather a simple kernel that may not be as fast as other OC kernels yet is stable and reliable.
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You know galaxy tuner you can change sound without voodoo sound. On a stock kernel. Can oc. To 1.2 as well for a bit so there is a way without.
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Galaxy Tuner is a good alternative, but it doesn't work in the same way as Voodoo Sound does. supercurio is such an audiophile.
jaetm83 said:
Since I am not a programmer myself, I am not sure if I make sense or not. But why not just beat all that crap Sammy patched into the kernel instead of working on other fancy stuff. Of course Voodoo goodies are proven to be good, and speed is important to many people. But why do we need extra free memory when Android automatically manages memory and kills apps and processes. BLN is great but stock backlight is just as good, and many of us deactivate it in the control app anyway. If kernel is efficient and fast enough, I think OC/UV are not necessary to begin with, man it's 1 ghz processor, it can do better without being overclocked! I don't know if you are yet skillful enough to look through all the coding Samsung put into the kernel just to make it as horrible as possible, but I am sure one day you'll be there and take all the crap out of the stock kernel and make it work even better, faster and more efficient while keeping it simple and functional, as much as I hope.
Voodoo Sound is still a must for me because it's such a major improvement that helps make my ears happier and my life better.
Good luck!
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Were do I get this control app?
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Hey all,
i am searching for something special, which none of the well known kernel designers could offer. I myself cant create kernels
Here is what i am looking for:
Device: Nexus FroYo with root
Kernel features:
OC: 1.13 GHZ
UV: 800mV
Audiohack
Ramboost
Is there anyone that could create a working Kernel with the given features?
Thx a lot
Tigger
The closest one you'll find with everything you need is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
It doesn't have OC but it's not necessary anyways. It has everything else you want.
mrandroid said:
The closest one you'll find with everything you need is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=653598
It doesn't have OC but it's not necessary anyways. It has everything else you want.
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i know, but its exactly what i need. OC AND UV...thats why my request. but thanks for ur help,
im using intersectravens atm bfs .34 now...but it doesnt have OC
Froyo = pimpin'
With Froyo, you dont need OC... I thought I NEEDED it... but with SetCPU on active you'll see that the phone really only needs to run around the 245Mhz mark on the home screen and it'll rarely use all 998Mhz that it has...
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i know, but its exactly what i need. OC AND UV...thats why my request. but thanks for ur help,
im using intersectravens atm bfs .34 now...but it doesnt have OC
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I'd say it's a want, no so much a need, but I digress.
Wait for Ivan to update his kernel. He's been MIA though. Maybe he's dealing with real life. Look for his kernels a couple pages back and PM him. Or maybe send an email.
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Hey all,
i am searching for something special, which none of the well known kernel designers could offer. I myself cant create kernels
Here is what i am looking for:
Device: Nexus FroYo with root
Kernel features:
OC: 1.13 GHZ
UV: 800mV
Audiohack
Ramboost
Is there anyone that could create a working Kernel with the given features?
Thx a lot
Tigger
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I agree with not really needing OC on froyo but I guess its nice to have the option so here yah go
http://www.mediafire.com/?tzxwm0mjweo
Flash through the recovery menu or push to the phone just like you do with Raven's kernels but make sure you do a nandroid backup just in case something happens.
You didn't specify if you wanted BFS or CFS so I used CFS in this because personally I think CFS runs better overall on froyo.
(Although BFS really makes the launcher super silky smooth, it really chugs when I try to load Flash content in the browser but maybe this is happening to me only, I don't know )
wildmonks said:
I agree with not really needing OC on froyo but I guess its nice to have the option so here yah go
http://www.mediafire.com/?tzxwm0mjweo
Flash through the recovery menu or push to the phone just like you do with Raven's kernels but make sure you do a nandroid backup just in case something happens.
You didn't specify if you wanted BFS or CFS so I used CFS in this because personally I think CFS runs better overall on froyo.
(Although BFS really makes the launcher super silky smooth, it really chugs when I try to load Flash content in the browser but maybe this is happening to me only, I don't know )
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But this oine is 950mV ...i wanted 800mV for better Battery!
RinTinTigger said:
But this oine is 950mV ...i wanted 800mV for better Battery!
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beggers cant be choosers
xXJay_RXx said:
beggers cant be choosers
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But its why i opened the Thread. Im not to dumb to find the pershoot with 950mV...but i am requesting something different.
And it might be that requesters wont get what they ask for but for me, its totally worth a try!!!
RinTinTigger said:
But this oine is 950mV ...i wanted 800mV for better Battery!
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Oops.. sorry about that... I uploaded the wrong one... here yah go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xni3mduojj3
wildmonks said:
Oops.. sorry about that... I uploaded the wrong one... here yah go:
http://www.mediafire.com/?xni3mduojj3
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Testing it...who made it?
Does it have audi and ram boost?
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Testing it...who made it?
Does it have audi and ram boost?
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No, BMW but they're both German so you're okay...
djmcnz said:
No, BMW but they're both German so you're okay...
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I thought the same thing too when I read "audi"
RinTinTigger said:
Testing it...who made it?
Does it have audi and ram boost?
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I compiled it using the code that Raven publicly provides on his Github (latest as of 5/27/2010) and i added the overclocking code that you requested.
http://github.com/intersectRaven/ir-kernel-2.6.34/commits/master/
So it has everything that Raven's kernel has like the audio boost, 21MB ram, optimization flags, etc.
I decided to give this a try. Running great so far. Not sure if it's just a placebo effect, but it definitely feels snappier with that added .1 ghz.
halorin said:
I decided to give this a try. Running great so far. Not sure if it's just a placebo effect, but it definitely feels snappier with that added .1 ghz.
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Nice, glad to hear it working out well so far for someone. Yah, after testing this out for a day I notice the same thing, a little more responsive, linpack has increased from 36ish to around 40 and flash heavy sites load quicker.
I'll probably use this kernel in my phone now for everyday use but use SetCPU to keep it at 998MHz until I need that little extra boost.
(Reason being because in order to run at 1113MHz the AVS has to boost the voltage up even higher then usual to keep it stable.)
Hm. Didn't know that, the voltage. Thanks.
RinTinTigger said:
But this oine is 950mV ...i wanted 800mV for better Battery!
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Ummm... didn't we test this out in some huge blind test of kernels and conclude that 950 gets better battery life than 800?
pjcforpres said:
Ummm... didn't we test this out in some huge blind test of kernels and conclude that 950 gets better battery life than 800?
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I guess there are those few who see better battery life when using 800 .
Personally I use 950 because 800 makes my radio erratically switch between 2G and 3G in my workplace which in turn causes a big drain on my battery. This doesn't occur when I'm home though, probably because I'm so close to a cell tower.
wildmonks said:
I thought the same thing too when I read "audi"
I compiled it using the code that Raven publicly provides on his Github (latest as of 5/27/2010) and i added the overclocking code that you requested.
http://github.com/intersectRaven/ir-kernel-2.6.34/commits/master/
So it has everything that Raven's kernel has like the audio boost, 21MB ram, optimization flags, etc.
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THANKS a LOT! Its working really good.
And to thos with the 950>800 opinion, i thought this at well, but, i testet so much kernels now, with my usage parameters and it worked better with an 800mV
Wildmonky, any chance you could also make an BFS Version?
I think you should give both kernels then to raven to add em to his repo! They are GREAT!
I was so much looking for this kernel!!!
THX a lot!
Tigger
RinTinTigger said:
THANKS a LOT! Its working really good.
And to thos with the 950>800 opinion, i thought this at well, but, i testet so much kernels now, with my usage parameters and it worked better with an 800mV
Wildmonky, any chance you could also make an BFS Version?
I think you should give both kernels then to raven to add em to his repo! They are GREAT!
I was so much looking for this kernel!!!
THX a lot!
Tigger
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No problem Tigger
Here yah go. Still no changes from Raven for kernel version 34 so its still dated 05/27/2010 to match.
2.6.34_AVS-800mV_BFS_1113Mhz_052710:
http://www.mediafire.com/?j2kmytmhqjm
Raven really hates overclocking so this will never be in his repo. But what I might end up doing is compile and upload to mediafire when a new update is out, if there is enough interest in this.
Hey folks,
It was requested of me to make a thread regarding this. I have compiled an alternative kernel for aosp based roms. It should work with any of them.
1.0
All governors enabled, interactive patched in, conservative as default
Anticipatory scheduler vs. deadline ins stock cm6
Supports wired tethering
Latest source (may be newer than cm6?)
tun.ko support for vpn
More will be added later.
Thank you Koush, for providing me the fix for screen tearing and thanks sniffle, for helping me with making the kernel work with aosp
http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/cm6_ruby/
Source:
http://adrynalyne.us/files/kernels/cm6_ruby/source/
Nice job buddy! Thank you! I'll give it a shot tonight.
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oh hell yea.
maybe this will help all us aosp guys get a stable phone to use...
Just loaded it up. Will be back. To report.
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dnoyeb said:
oh hell yea.
maybe this will help all us aosp guys get a stable phone to use...
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Thats the plan
Any plans to get undervolt and oc?
Trying now, thanks...
Is there a place I can find the Stock CM6 kernal, in case I don't like this one? Ill report back in a little bit
Its slower than the CM6 kernal. I ran a linpack of 27 and quadrant of 1277. This was both running "performance" mode, and turning set cpu to the max which was 1000. I Am going to give it a try, maybe the battery life will make up for the performance loss. If not, nandroid here I come.
bradm23 said:
Trying now, thanks...
Is there a place I can find the Stock CM6 kernal, in case I don't like this one? Ill report back in a little bit
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ditto request backup stock cm6 kernel
I just hope it fixes my WiFi shutting off constantly.
Seems to be really solid, a bit slower than cm-6 but also took care my screen flicker and haven't found any negatives yet (1.0+ hr up time) . Looking forward to some overclock variations. Thanks for the work adrynalyne.
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Its slower than the CM6 kernal. I ran a linpack of 27 and quadrant of 1277. This was both running "performance" mode, and turning set cpu to the max which was 1000. I Am going to give it a try, maybe the battery life will make up for the performance loss. If not, nandroid here I come.
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Not sure what to tell you. The Sense version of this kernel has considerably better than that.
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Not sure what to tell you. The Sense version of this kernel has considerably better than that.
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I wasn't complaining. I will take a slightly slower kernal thats rock solid and great battery, vs a quicker but less stable.. sorry I came off like i was complaining. I really appreciate all your hard work, thanks.
bradm23 said:
I wasn't complaining. I will take a slightly slower kernal thats rock solid and great battery, vs a quicker but less stable.. sorry I came off like i was complaining. I really appreciate all your hard work, thanks.
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Oh I didn't take it as such.
I just don't know why
Unless the scheduler differences are doing it. Its possible.
Did you say that the top speed showed 1000 in setcpu vs. 998400?
unstable for me on 9/10 nightly wifi on and no setcpu, 3 random lockups/reboots in past 2 hrs
32.61 linpack and 1341 quadrant. Its not much slower than cm-6. @adrynalyn, do you plan on bumping up the clock speeds? Mine is showing 1000 max btw. Thanks again
I wasn't complaining. I will take a slightly slower kernal thats rock solid and great battery, vs a quicker but less stable.. sorry I came off like i was complaining. I really appreciate all your hard work, thanks.
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Oh I didn't take it as such.
I just don't know why
Unless the scheduler differences are doing it. Its possible.
Did you say that the top speed showed 1000 in setcpu vs. 998400?
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It shows 1k for me too
Yeah I plan on some future bumps.
THANK YOU ADRYNALYNE!!!!!!!!!! I was so pumped when you told me you did this .
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Oh I didn't take it as such.
I just don't know why
Unless the scheduler differences are doing it. Its possible.
Did you say that the top speed showed 1000 in setcpu vs. 998400?
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1k max for me as well. 998 didn't seem to be an option.
I'm getting similar performance as I get with kernels i compiled from koush's source where i only changed cpu speeds for overclocking and udervolting. Not as fast as koush's even when i bumped it up to 1.19Ghz. Which i couldn't figure out why since i used exact same source
What are the reasons for trying different Kernels? I have Flashed to Darky's 7.5 and I am not big into playing games on my phone just basic Calling,Texting some simple games. Are there some Big advantages I could benefit from if I OC/UV with different Kernel?
Thanks
RonH54 said:
What are the reasons for trying different Kernels? I have Flashed to Darky's 7.5 and I am not big into playing games on my phone just basic Calling,Texting some simple games. Are there some Big advantages I could benefit from if I OC/UV with different Kernel?
Thanks
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Overclocking will make the phone faster and undervolting will give you better battery life as you crank up your processor speed but both can mess with your phone as you get toward extremes on both ends. Overclock too much and your phone goes crazy. Undervolt too much and you get sleeping death and stuff like that.
With the type of user you are I would recommend xcal's kernel, a 2.2.1 rom and do not enable the lagfix, which I believe Darky's rom fits the bill. You will not notice a difference in performance and you won't have to deal with an issues relating to oc/uv. If you are a hardcore gamer then you might need to oc but I play asphalt 5 all the time with neither and never have any issues with lag or stutter.
Roof King said:
Overclocking will make the phone faster and undervolting will give you better battery life as you crank up your processor speed but both can mess with your phone as you get toward extremes on both ends. Overclock too much and your phone goes crazy. Undervolt too much and you get sleeping death and stuff like that.
With the type of user you are I would recommend xcal's kernel, a 2.2.1 rom and do not enable the lagfix, which I believe Darky's rom fits the bill. You will not notice a difference in performance and you won't have to deal with an issues relating to oc/uv. If you are a hardcore gamer then you might need to oc but I play asphalt 5 all the time with neither and never have any issues with lag or stutter.
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Thanks for reply. I just love to tinker with things so though I will probably not fool with changing Kernel now I am sure I'll get the itch and try it once to see how I like OC and UV at some point......
Thanks again
I would suggest glitterballs kernel, it is based on 2.2.1 source, uses voodoo which you can choose to disable, and is oc to 1200 but you can opt not to oc. I find it to be very stable
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mcord11758 said:
I would suggest glitterballs kernel, it is based on 2.2.1 source, uses voodoo which you can choose to disable, and is oc to 1200 but you can opt not to oc. I find it to be very stable
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I am getting ready to Flash Darky's 7.7(I have 7.5 now). I think I read that 7.7 has Voodoo enabled when you Flash(before you had to Disable Lag fix to get Voodoo). Will glitterballs kernel work with 7.7 and Voodoo already installed? Also is this the the glitterball you talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887315
Thanks
Speedmod kernel that just came out is good and snappy. Its a battery sipper too!!! And no OC/UV.
silverslotcar said:
Speedmod kernel that just came out is good and snappy. Its a battery sipper too!!! And no OC/UV.
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I have read that a lot of guys really liking Speedmod but if I read correctly you can't have Voodoo running and Voodoo runs with Darky 7.7 Flash automatically. I am sure there a way to disable Voodoo in 7.7 I just need to find out how. Or I can be completely wrong about SpeedMod and Voodoo.
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I am getting ready to Flash Darky's 7.7(I have 7.5 now). I think I read that 7.7 has Voodoo enabled when you Flash(before you had to Disable Lag fix to get Voodoo). Will glitterballs kernel work with 7.7 and Voodoo already installed? Also is this the the glitterball you talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=887315
Thanks
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Yes that is the kernel I was talking about
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Hey all
Longtime lurker (i think i have some very old posts in here).
I acquired a galaxy and so far im pretty satisfied. But still only so-so. My wife has the iPhone4, which is also a great phone, and what i envy most about it, is the super fluid, instant response you get while working around the UI. Scrolling, opening programs... everything is incredibly smoot. Not so much on the Galaxy.
I tried doing the lagfix and rooting it also. It helped nicely with the loading times of programs, but the UI still isnt as smooth as the iPhones. And this is something i dont get. The galaxy is one of the most powerfull handsets out there, but still cant reach the lvl of smoothness as you get on an iPhone.
I ran Quadrant after appyling root/lagfix and scored a 2200+. Thats a pretty great score. But still doesnt feel as snappy and responsive as i find it should.
Ok well, what i want to know... is there anything out there that could help improve the UI responsiveness? Another ROM? Another Kernel? Or is this something that is just inherent with Android and/or Samsung, in a way that i will never have that?
First of all, ignore Quadrant. If you rooted and did a lagfix on the stock firmware, then you likely used OCLF. Ext2 from OCLF inflates Quadrant scores due to the looping method it uses. The only real way to judge your phone's speed is out it feels to you, and if it feels sluggish then you have work to do, regardless of the Q score.
I would definitely recommend flashing a new kernel. You should start with Speedmod (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822756), just because Hardcore's instructions for flashing the first time with Odin are very clear and complete. Follow them exactly and you should be good and then you can use a program like SGS Kernel Flasher to try other options easily (just remember to undo lagfixes and tweaks in between flashes).
Personally I have used Speedmod, Super Optimized and Ultimate Kernel and they are all fast with good performance. For me the best has been Ultimate (with all Ext2 lagfix) but each person and phone are different, so play around with different choices. If you wish to go all out, you can read up here about flashing the Mod as well.
I was also quite dismayed and surprised by the performance of my Galaxy out of the box, but now with a smoking kernel and lagfix in place, it is easily as smooth as iOS.
Good luck, and enjoy.
i think the most important thing is first flash one of the new firmware 2.2.1 like JS7 then it will run already smooth, if thats not enough then you still can flash a newer kernel hardcore or voodoo kernel and lagfix it.
Thanks, lagfix?
Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
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Thanks guys.
Ok i will stop using Quadrant as a benchmark for my UI experience.
Ok, flashing a new kernel. Great with some oppinions too. What are the Go-to kernels right now? Those 3 you mentioned?
And regarding lagfix, i though lagfix was almost always a part of a customer kernel? And if not, which lagfix should i use?
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I suggest starting with Speedmod just for Hardcore's great instructions. However, if you are not satisfied or wish to try other options Speedmod can just be your entry drug. Once you have flashed once, you can install Clockwork Mod recovery and SGS Kernel Flasher and really go to town. There are lots of great kernels down in the Android Development thread, I just listed the three I myself have tried. Read up on them, and try the ones that have the features you are looking for.
As for which lagfix, again that is a matter of personal preference. Some say Ext4 is safer, some say Ext2 is faster, some are jfs fans, some say even stranger things. Each kernel has a different approach, as well. Again, take solid backups with SGS Kernel Flasher or ROM Manager and try each method for yourself. Just remember, be home when the clock strikes midnight, and undo all lagfixes and tweaks before flashing each time (and remember, if you used OCLF to do your current lagfix, you need to go back into that app and undo all it's changes before flashing Speedmod, or BAD things will happen).
Let's not forget about basic things, like wiping the phone?
I was actually looking for exactly the same things, and I was changing kernels, roms, themes, etc. etc. while I realised it's not just that.
Go one step further, and what I found is that under Zeam launcher everything seems snappier(the kleine crocodile), than before.
I also disposed all theme, and extra stuff, that made the rom "heavier".
I cooked my own ROM in doc's kitchen, and indeed used hardcore's kernel with ext4 lagfix.
Not only the phone is pretty close to the iphone responsiveness, but the battery life is also great!
2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
im using newest rom from doc's kitchen with supercurios kernel.
i used zeam launcher before which didn't feel snappy, i'm now using Launcher Pro which just feels alot snappier.
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2200+ Quadrant scores?
I've got around 1100 on Darky's Rom 9.3 and the responsiveness is amazing!
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forget the scores, yours with just 1100 could be faster than one with 2200 in daily use.
A friend of me has a iphone4 and I also think that the iphone4 is just smoother than the galaxy s.
I'm on darky 9.3 with voodoo lagfix (which is included in the rom) but still I have laggs on screen. My sister just bought a htc incredible S and its also very smooth but again not as smooth as the iphone4. I just personaly think that apple has made there a good job...but there is alot what I don't like at the iphone4.
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I agree. I've tried many new custom roms and lagfixes, and although they help, they still don't seem to make the phone reliably and constantly smooth. I occasionally still have some UI lag or freezing. I praise 2.2.1 for making the phone feel as smooth with RFS as it does on EXT4 though, and now I usually don't bother "lagfixing" the phone
I use TouchWiz, so I think inherent bugs in the UI are at least partially to blame. I noticed using a 3rd party launcher generally felt a bit smoother than TW, even though I like the TW layout. I'm going to reformat the phone and load JS8 with Speedmod and am leaning towards using the latest GO Launcher as my default to see if there's any noticeable long term improvement in smoothness
really everyone is going lag fix lag fix hardware way? seriously the TW launcher is the problem , its NATURALLY LAGGY , imo get Laucher pro you want silky smooth get launcher pro and set it as default home sure as hell looks better and is more fluid than any other loader out there , not one NOT ONE little hiccup ever just soo silky smooth , never even a slight tiny tiny not even micro second lag , app planet > launcher pro > facebook widget > messages widget > normal background not live > 3-5 pages = win
But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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But I like the look of the twlauncher more. Somehow I just dislike the look of the launcher pro
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Try go launcher instead.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Wow. Seems to be much smoother then the twlauncher. I'll try it a few days.
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
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Yes it is.
I have tried them all but I always come back to go launcher.
**DamianGTO ultimate kernel v1.2 * 600Hz * 346MB RAM * OC/UV * 1200MHZ**
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Well now after a day I have to say, this is the best launcher so far (go launcher). I haven't ever experienced such smoothness on my Galaxy S. So for everyone whos haveing trouble with lagg on screen, try the go launcher. It is even verx nice customisable
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i'm using sm k13a. it gives me very good battery life, better than k13c.
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Go to Android Development Section and you will find your answer hopefully..
even I would like to know. seems both are very good.
if noone answers do a comparison and include battery life, performance etc.
Speedmod is original
hl note core is adapted speedmod so use same versions of speedmod when doing so
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I've used both, and prefer glnotecore (have beenn off speedmod about 3 wks). On my note, it is smoother, more stable, and faster. I also get great batt life for this level of performance. Of course, we're finding that there are some fairly significant variances note-to-note, so you really need to test both on your phone to know what works best for you, but I can attest to notecore's overall performance. Fwiw, I'm using same dev's latest rom (cleannote) along with latest kernel (6.1, which is not speedmod-based). If you're using a rom with lots of scripts and tweaks, then notecore isn't for you as it is optimized without such items (read thread to learn more about why). It may also not be for you if you're looking for lots of mods... dev is focused on performance and stability without trendy bells and whistles. Hope this is helpful to you.
Think of them like this:
SpeedMod = original Samsung Kernel but "safe"
NOTECORE = customized Samsung Kernel and "safe"
If you're going to use the Stock TouchWizz ROM with minimal changes, go for SpeedMod, it should be more stable.
If you want to customize your NOTE with a TouchWizz-based ROM, go for Notecore, you can underclock the min frequency (save battery), then overclock max freq (faster), then undervolt it slightly (save even more battery). Then use a more effecient governor like InteractiveX or Ondemand (save battery without losing performance). Then you can overclock the gpu, and get smooth performance with the ChainFire3D plugin.
Then again, if you really want ultimate customization... you'll need AOSP ROM + Kernel.
Examples:
A) SpeedMod K3-9 + (Samsung) LRG ROM = Samsung Experience
B) NOTECORE + m3dd0g's LiquidSmooth v3.0 = Custom Experience
C) ANiKernel + AOKP build 41 (milestone 6) = Deep Custom Experience
I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Haha, E-Rambo-Hulks, not heard that 1 before.
Also had issues with the sd card unmounting & apps uninstalled on reboot.
Just tried v7 so far the freezing has gone, especially with dead trigger.
will give it a few hours/days.
Edit: freezing still happening, back to speedmod.
ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
notecore kernel are AWESONE.....
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ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
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Completely agree with you. Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE if you are comparing the OCed version with the regular speedmod.
Of course, it all depends on what the person needs it for and nothing beats testing for yourself since it takes little time to flash back and forth.
Regards
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Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
In my personal experience I find both of them good in their own ways. Note core is a full performance kernel while speedmod Is a balanced kernel. I keep coming back to Note core because of it's brilliant performance, thanks to Gavin .
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Theoretically you are right.
In practice, you may not be.
SpeedMod = stability oriented.
NOTECORE= speed oriented.
AOSP kernel = speed and feature oriented.
Nova 3 could run fullspeed on Stock Samsung, SpeedMod, Notecore and AOSP. Or Nova 3 running fullspeed only on AOSP. Or only on Notecore and AOSP.
Obviously, it depends on how good the device (they're not created equal) and rom is, as well as the user (different apps installed, different forms of usage).
The only way to decide is to test them personally and see what works for you.
I'm using and testing also both, and all versions...... If you compare it with cars, or car builder, then Hardcore is more the "settled" one, like Mercedes, that is a kernel, that is solid, stable and do what it should do..... Speedmod is good, if you want to have a kernel with good performance, but you don't want to Overclock or something...... And I think, here speedmod is very good....... For Users, they don't want to screw on setups, just having a kernel, that is installed and good!
Gavin is more like a tuning builder, like amg that takes the Mercedes and try to get out more performance on every little part of the engine....... But also get stable enough to win the 24hours race in LeMans
My favourite is Notecore, cause I'm also a screwing fan...... To get as much performance as can out of my note, and here is Notecore definitely on Pole Position....... Since V4 performance is so good, that I get the first time really satisfied......... All runs very fast, apps open like rockets..... Game performance is awesome (gaming Dead Trigger with full effects and tegra effects also triggered on, runs smooth as butter), and also on heavy apps like Photoshop touch, there is enough power to render effects on high resolution pics from Cameras like the CV-5 with 4096x2048 px in png nearly uncompressed......
But Notecore is a performance Kernel, if you are a bit sensible, and you get a heart attack, if your phone gets a little bit warm.... Than better use a kernel that is a bit more conservative.....
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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@ Kangal
Nice summary,
@shaolin95
Really not fussed enough to flash both kernels make a video just to prove a point (I'm yawning at the thought), I have no reason to lie about the smoothness, simply want what most people want, great performance with stability, still it's just a phone, I don't fret about getting 5 more fps.
If you're getting that with NC then I'm happy for you. I'm not, but I'll say again, it's only a matter of time before the dev gets it spot on. Until then speedmod works great for me.
All the best.
From classic rom. Has tried note std v7 for 3 days. Very smooth and battery drain performance was superb as well. But having same issue with other user. UI sometimes will hang for few second without any respond. But still able to pull down notification bar.
Tried speedmod k3-9 yesterday till now, stable, battery performance not bad at all, smooth and no single hang.
Battery performance is very subjective things, u must try it and compare by your self.
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