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so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
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wdkingery said:
so my rom is stock; infact, i just got the phone. maybe three cabs. advanced config, mobile matt's theme.. .net 3.5? battery life seems like it's going to be a problem. i haven't even gotten it to say it was fully charged.. always still charging.
is it worth going to the "test" rom that we recently received? will that even improve batter life? i had a wizard for years before, and i must have flipped roms over 40 times.. and it just.. it never quite worked right the same after i started dicking with it. and i'm reading in the thread on that rom that some are going back over service issues.
opnions? any general battery life conservation methods?
Captain noob
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Have you left the Fuze to charge for 5+ hours yet? If so and you can't get it to say it's fully charged, you might want to investigate it further before you start flashing, to save yourself the trouble of flashing back the stock SPL and ROM in case you want to send it back for an exchange.
You're right, the battery life sucks. In Advanced Config, under "Power Management," I have all that stuff enabled and it helps a little. I also set my screen brightness down to the lowest I can tolerate instead of using the sensor.
The radio that's in the test ROM is incredible! I first flashed that with the stock ROM and it did wonders for my battery life. As I'm sure you've read by now, GPS sucks too on stock. The radio also helps a lot with GPS, I noticed a huge difference after flashing. I highly recommend NATF's ROMs, his version 4.5 is based off the test ROM and it is incredibly fast and stable. GPS works even better when the radio is coupled with the test ROM, or any ROM based on it. Battery life is so much better now.
Links to the radio thread and NATF's ROMs are in my sig.
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thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
wdkingery said:
thanks so much for your rapid response. you can say i load that radio with my stock rom? i might be interested in doing that, however; my GPS seems to work fine. no difficulties like other people say. i hate to switch to another radio and screw that up.. but you claims wonders about battery life.
i have been closely eyeing a NATF rom. i've been watchin him since he "proudly got a branded fuze" even tho i didn't have this phone till last week.
i did charge it over night last night, and it did go to 100%.. and within two hours, about 8 text messages and changing my text message sound, i'm down to 86% so anything's worth a try.
i'm just so reluctant to flash to a new rom.. i hate all the bloatware, and the different things.. but it seems once you go down that road, it's soft resets every time something goes wrong, at least once a day. and emails tryin to figure out why my MMS only works when the moon is aligned.. i'm doing this same reflash work to a 2005 mustang GT brain and same kinda things.. now the idle isn't stable, if you drive the car, cut it off, then fire it back up it's touchy to drive.. seems like every time i **** with someone, yeah it flies on that one aspect, but it ends up being like a baby, always wiping the ass.
bottom line: what do i need to only flash that radio? Hard spl?
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No prob man. First thing is we gotta make sure you have a GSM phone, so hopefully you're with AT&T and have a Fuze. If you're with verison or sprint, flashing is a no go. I really don't know anything about the CDMA versions of the Raph, but the forum for those are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=465
So if you do have a GSM, awesome. If you're worried about bloat, you don't have to anymore with NATF's ROMs. His standard ROM is loaded with great utilities and tools, no bloat and has about 320MB free "Storage Space" in memory. That's huge leaps over the stock with the bloat, and stock without the bloat it still beats it by 100MB! NATF's ROMs are definitely faster than the stock and are very stable. But if you're still reluctant to flash, I don't blame you, I barely got rid of my stock ROM a month ago; I've had the Fuze since it's launch date in Nov.
Yep, HardSPL is the first step. mskip has a great guide with all the required links to get you going, follow steps 1, 2, & 5 here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Lemme know how it works out for you.
New radio rom helps, as does switching to a ROM that doesn't load as much junk in the background. Also, do a soft reset after you run activesync on the phone - there's a lot of stuff that loads during synching that doesn't properly unload afterwards, meaning increased cpu and memory usage and thus battery.
In my opinion, i think you should get Da_G's 6.5 roms. Yes, they're beta but they run amazingly smooth, with very few glitches. and my battery life is AMAZING with them. I can go a whole day and half with a full charge as opposed to less than a day with all the other roms. and that's with constant texting and phone calls and data connection. not to mention his rom is really fast!
natf 4.5 att
i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
wdkingery said:
i've decided around midnight i shall attempt not to brick my phone whilst flashin the natf rom. is there a link anyone could give me to a description of the rom?
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Can't go wrong with his thread, it's in my sig.
Some things to keep in mind:
Don't forget to back up your PIM, I use PPCPimBackup, you can find it at d0ugie's site: http://blownfuze.org/ If you do not have threaded SMS, change that in Advanced Config after you flash, then restore your PIM. Your contacts and calendar should come back right away after the restore, but the messages take a while to rebuild, so don't touch it for at least 15 mins after the reboot.
Sprite Backup from the stock rom isn't included in NATF's, you can find it here at Da_G's rom thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446652&highlight=sprite+backup
Rooting your phone has benefits and all, but after spending countless hours on this site, I think my phone MIGHT have been better off left alone. the speaker and mic randomly stop working (usually right as i am about to receive an important ass phone call, or when someone is calling me back), making it UNUSABLE AS A PHONE... and it IS a phone after all. the dialer lag was bad when it was stock, but now it is soooo slow it is unusable every now and then. ive never found a way to fully back up my apps, so i pretty much just lose them all every time i flash, and re load them as i need them, usually forgetting half of them even exist.
/rant.
I take it you use a Hero.... well, if it works like a myTouch or G1, can't you just unroot?
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Rooting your phone has benefits and all, but after spending countless hours on this site, I think my phone MIGHT have been better off left alone. the speaker and mic randomly stop working (usually right as i am about to receive an important ass phone call, or when someone is calling me back), making it UNUSABLE AS A PHONE... and it IS a phone after all. the dialer lag was bad when it was stock, but now it is soooo slow it is unusable every now and then. ive never found a way to fully back up my apps, so i pretty much just lose them all every time i flash, and re load them as i need them, usually forgetting half of them even exist.
/rant.
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Have you tried different ROMs, or just one?
I have a Hero, like him. You should go back to a 1.5 ROM, some people have audio loss issues with 2.1 roms. Check out my 1.5 ROM, Souffle here if you're interested
EDIT: Whoops the download's down. Hehehe. Check out Fresh 1.1 here for a rom that you can actually flash lol.
I have only used stock ROMs. I understand that some people love the aspect of setting things up and trying new stuff out, but I just need my device to work and it does. Sure, my programs list takes 5 seconds to load (OH NO!!!!!!!) and my home screen doesn't have 3 shortcuts below my schedule for the day (STOP THE PRESSES!!!!), but it works.
Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
First, get to know your phone. Use it as long as you can before rooting, until you get used to it and EVERYTHING it does. When it starts to get boring, ROOT it! By that time you should know every secret the phone offers!
not a big fan of patience... I would like to learn to root it and play around... but nothing brick like...
2.2 would be nice and anything else people recommend, lol....
thx man, goodnight.
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Well, I ditched my iphone to try out the nexus one... I just got the phone today and I barely know how to use it stock (2.1). Phone is untouched, brand new from google...
I guess I would like to take advantage of the phones power and more importantly, try out version 2.2.... any advice where to begin, tutorials etc? thx in advance, I will go back to reading this site!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=688000
Inside there's a link, follow the Pre-requisites on that link first... and setup ADB first.
ok so set up that ab thing first then follow the tutorials... also, should I have mentioned it is a *rogers 3g phone (att&t)
thx again and goodnight 4 real
If you barely know how to use it stock.... you should probably figure that out before you go around rooting it, flashing custom ROMs, and trying the latest BETA OS release. Once you've got the stock OS figured out and are getting bored with it, THEN root and move on.
Learn how the phone works. This is no iPhone and the settings with this phone are plentyfull. Have in mind that after you flash a Cyanogen ROM for instance, you will have 4 times more settings to play with, hence the advice to learn the basic functions on your N1. But anyways, you will come to a certain point where the GEEK in you wakes up and you wanting MORE..
DO also know that when you want to root your phone, you need to unlock you phone. Doing this will VOID YOUR WARRANTY. I will also advise you to use your phone for a period of time to see that there are no issues with hardware and build of the phone (buttons, dust under screen, trackball not working, not chargin, loose connectors etc etc..), just to be safe. Coz once you unlock it, there is NO going back to lock it again (at this point)
Setting up ADB and Recovery can be the most struggling with drivers and interface but once that is passed and you start using recovery on a daily or weekly basis, is all smooth ride from there. I guarantee you many hours customizing and experimenting with this phone than any other non-andoid phones you have had in the past.. is pretty much an addiction. i have rebooted this phone more the last 3 months than any other phones in my whole lifetime .
Rule of thumb is always have a recent Nandroid (backup done in recovery) before flashing. Flashing ROM's are usually safe as safe can be. Kernels are not risky to flash either, but remember that Kernels are the ones that controls voltages and speed of you Processor and other things, and flashing wrong Kernels can result in non functioning behavious in your OS and worst case, the processor overheating, so know what you are doing when flashing Kernels. At one point you will start trying out kernels because if you are on a hunt for more battery life, the ROM + Kernel combination are the main things that makes this happens.
Then , a last note: I addvise you to NOT update radios if you don't have any problems with the one you have. The Radio's are the one that controls your ability to call controls your phone's antenna and Wi-Fi. If you DO flash radios and happen to terminate the process, i guarantee you a bricked phone. So beware. If you upgrade to FROYO, one of the processes is flashing a new radio. So let things runs it course once in process.
Have fun trying to optimize your phone to last as long as it can on one battery charge...
If you like to begin in Android World you can start from the following blog
nextworldmobile.com. It has reviews of Android Applications that you must put on your mobile plus Flashing Tutorials etc.
Theunlockr.com is a great website for rooting and anything on the nexus. They also have videos
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pretty valid points from all of you, thanks very much.... I think I will give it a week or atleast the weekend... once I got in on luck.... maybe I will move on
I do buy and sell phones a lot... might be best to wait and see if there is a way to reverse the process and keep warranty intact first?
thx a bunch.
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
jblazea50 said:
since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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It should definitely be soon, and will give you a chance to have new software and features without voiding your warranty. Win-win :-D
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since the OTA Froyo should be coming in by maybe end of next week, i'd wait and just mess with 2.1 for now
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I really recommand to do that exact thing:
learn nandroid (backups )
then play with your 2.1
2.2 will be out before you could have learned everything you wanted from 2.1
thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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thx again, I am pretty excited about 2.2... coming from a 3gs... I kind of thought I would not like my n1.. but I see no problems with 2.1.... I cannot imagine the performance increase it claims.... gonna be sweeeeet.
So, anything non warranty killing you guys recommend? apps/tweaks etc? thx
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You can download Launcher Pro from the Market to replace the current home Launcher. It will allow you to have up to 7 home screens and makes everything a whole lot smoother when you swipe between the screens.
sweeeeet tip bro, thx!
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
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yeah, i updated mine via the non-warranty-voiding method, but since i like some of the apps that require root, i had it rooted
to update to frf50 (Froyo) without voiding warranty, you need to download the OTA file and rename to update.zip and place in the root of the SD card
1. power off phone
2. hold down volume down button and press power
3. scroll to recovery and hit power (should take you to screen with an exclamation mark or something similar
4. while holding down power button, press volume up
5. this should take you to stock recovery and you can now apply update.zip from sd card
those may be the correct steps, i don't think i'm missing anything; there's some guide located in the general forum
thx for the app suggestions, I will try them all
as for the above instructions... each site I try to grab 2.2 from.. says it no longer exists? thx
timothydonohue said:
i believe that there exists a non-warranty-voiding method of updating to froyo. it's much faster than 2.1, and battery life is also improved.
for apps, there are threads about it but, some that are just pretty darn neat would include:
google skymap
barcode scanner
google goggles
some augmented reality apps would be:
layar
wikitude
for a better typing (rather swiping) experience, get swype. you should be able to find instructions on how to put it on around here, and there is a non-timed release in the apps/themes section
i use 'and explorer' as a file explorer
pandora is a must if you like internet media
google listen isn't bad (although i hear good things about other apps) for pulling down any podcasts you like
and, go give the navigation app a try. it's the bees knees. not only does it give turn by turn directions, but as long as you load the trip while in a 3g or wifi connection, it caches the whole thing, so you can drive through dead zones and won't lose the the path, as long as you have gps signal. plus, it switches to street view to show you the destination, when you get there
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ps: will pandora work in Canada? thx
I just updated to 2.2 using Samsung Kies Mini, I'm not use to all this Android "stuff' just came from using an iPhone for quite some time and it was very simple. As to my understand "Android" is easy to get use to too, just takes some getting use to, so im switching phones.
So, as to my question about 2.2 Is there anyway to root the official release of 2.2? Also I dont have my SD card for a couple days judging my mom accidentally grabbed it before she left. So can I root it without using a SD card?
I want to get rid of these stupid AT&T bloatware shiznit.
Also should I use a lagfix? I read somewhere someone said they just used Titanium Backup and I think made it so the program "freeze/froze" the applications from running? Any Ideas?
Did you even glance at any thread on here? Every single one of your questions has been answered about 100 times. All the info is there look in the stickies at the top of every sub forum, expecting a personalized walk through isn't the right way to go about things. Read, read, read, read, read, and read some more.
Sorry I was going to "edit" earlier but got busy cleaning and I didn't have time, my bad. I did read around and I did find how to root my phone and remove the AT&T bloatware.
I did a little research around here but I had a quick question actually about my device.
It runs super HOT, except for when its charging... Even when im on my phone like texting and then I open task manager to close all open programs after it closes them it still is SUPER HOT.
Guess I forgot to mention, I dont use a case but ive only dropped my phone once, but the one time I did drop it i cracked the screen on the bottom right side about a qtr size crack, it isnt like feel able so my finger just glides right over it still without noticing.
Now I know I am a new member, and I respect that (I am slowing working my way up), but I just recently rooted my D4. After such, I installed SafeStrap and played around with that. What I am curious about now is how do I get a hold of all this ram that they say I have.I am looking for something that will rid me of all the memory eating apps that run in the shadows, and something that will keep them away from auto loading back to where they where. To sum up, I need a good, solid clean of all the bloatware (even to the core) and a place where I can make my fancy... if you are current on the term. Thanks to anyone whom gives out advice.
Well, you could install a different ROM. I'm running Eclipse and I like it.
I'm not sure you really need to worry about programs eating up your ram though, since the android OS automatically "garbage collects" idle applications anyway.
A word of advice, don't tweak just to tweak. IMHO, especially when it comes to Motorola, their OEM software isn't that bad. It does have some bloatware (which can be FROZEN using Titanium Backup, don't uninstall it so you can easily update in the future), but that is it.
If you really want a clean ROM, install Eclipse, it really is fantastic.
That being said, Titanium Backup is a must have, and autorunners can help you prevent things from running at startup (and other conditions), but be forewarned, you can screw things up and make the phone run much worse...
podspi said:
A word of advice, don't tweak just to tweak. IMHO, especially when it comes to Motorola, their OEM software isn't that bad. It does have some bloatware (which can be FROZEN using Titanium Backup, don't uninstall it so you can easily update in the future), but that is it.
If you really want a clean ROM, install Eclipse, it really is fantastic.
That being said, Titanium Backup is a must have, and autorunners can help you prevent things from running at startup (and other conditions), but be forewarned, you can screw things up and make the phone run much worse...
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Yes true. you do have a point. I did download Eclipse and i LOVE IT. so ill have to get titaniam now to what? get things running even smoother?
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so ill have to get titaniam now to what? get things running even smoother?
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You can use it to freeze bloatware. What we mean by 'freeze', is to basically make the phone think the app isn't installed anymore, when in reality it is. You can easily 'defrost' frozen apps with the press of a button.
so to follow with the title... riddle me this.. why would i look over at my phone ( running eclipse in safetrap) and it is operating itself, better yet someone is remotely controlling it. i have the option set so i can see where my screen touches are, so i see this little faint white dot doing stuff oall over my screen... it starts to send a picture message to people completely random when i interveen and shut down.. 5hen load up my stock rom to post this.... HELP1!!
If it does not do this with the stock OS, then chances are you downloaded something you should not have, and someone is controlling your phone.
Does it act intelligently, or randomly? Poor quality charges can also cause spurious touches.
A short in the touchscreen can also cause this.
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A short in the touchscreen can also cause this.
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i probably downloaded something i shouldnt have... but i wasnt my stock rom (thank god) so i just flashed a new one from scratch.. hope it doesnt happen again..