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Kies vs. Odin

I'm just wondering why we have to wait for Kies ROM that is available to other regions when we can flash our i9000 with the available i9000XXJP6 Rom with Odin now?

traiviet said:
I'm just wondering why we have to wait for Kies ROM that is available to other regions when we can flash our i9000 with the available i9000XXJP6 Rom with Odin now?
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People like me, would prefer the Release meant specifically for me region as the RADIO is different
but if you happen to be compatible with the current release
you can just do the KIES hack and flash it
doing the KIES hack is the same as using Odin to flash

[Q] Want to upgrade to newest firmware

Now I have a stock ROM, android 2.2 froyo SGS. I already rooted and used OCLF it. And now, I want to update it thru KEIS using samsung made stock rom, maybe 2.2.1 the latest?
What do I need to do before I can update my phone? Do I need to remove the partition made of OCLF and the OCLF itself? And also unroot?
Another alternative, I'm willing to fully reset my phone, then update it just like having it fresh from store then update. What do I need to do?
Of the two alternatives, I prefer resetting it. Cause I want a fresh phone. Thanks!

nYbEe said:
Another alternative, I'm willing to fully reset my phone, then update it just like having it fresh from store then update. What do I need to do?
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You didnt tell, where you live and what your regional settings are.
ONLY if you are in Europe: Reset your SGS to any stock version. (You'll find all of them on samfirmware.com). Use "Kies Registry Patcher" to fake Kies-settings. Tell Kies that your version is the XEU version. Now you will get the official UK english Froyo 2.2.1. AT the first start you may choose any other European language and region.

slowfax said:
You didnt tell, where you live and what your regional settings are.
ONLY if you are in Europe: Reset your SGS to any stock version. (You'll find all of them on samfirmware.com). Use "Kies Registry Patcher" to fake Kies-settings. Tell Kies that your version is the XEU version. Now you will get the official UK english Froyo 2.2.1. AT the first start you may choose any other European language and region.
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Sorry about that sir, I'm from the Philippines. Am I able to update to the latest or not? Thanks! And If yes, about the reset phone, Do I need to unroot and remove OCLF? Thanks!

Need to remove root OCLF etc .
Update to your networks stock rom via Kies YES if your network have updated to 2.2.1 No if they have not .
Update to Samsungs stock rom ( not your networks ) yes using unofficial route stock rom from Samsung Firmware and Odin method to flash new rom .
Network rom the rom supplied to your phone customized by your network.
Stock Samsung the rom supplied by Samsung without network customisation .
Factory reset is always best before any update i find .
jje

[Q] Resetting Back to Stock

Really sorry to post something which im sure has been done before but from what i've found here I can't properly interpret the details of what is to be done.
Basically I upgraded to Android 2.2 on my Galaxy S 19000 in December using a guide online (forget where sorry) but I want to revert back to my stock ROM as to enable Samsung Kies updating. Im in Australia. I have no mods or anything installed.
Sorry for being so vague, if I need to post certain details about my phone then i'l be happy to, just unsure of what you might need from me.
Also i've been trying to follow the guide here "http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751639&page=19" but I can't follow it properly as i'm a bit thick.

The rom that will update is the one that came with the phone . Kies will look for the phones product code hardware ID etc then update .
If you do not have the original Kies cannot update .
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje

That is incorrect. You do not need the rom that the phone was shipped with.
I've flashed from custom roms and back to stock numerous times. Choose one of the 2.1 stick roms from samfirmwares.com. Flash using odin using a 512 pit file and repartition ticked if using the 3 file flashing option. kies will then quite happily upgrade to the latest rom.
There are flashing instructions and all software and firmware on samfirmware.com
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1

But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje

JJEgan said:
But thats not the rom that came with the phone thats the stock Samsung rom BEFORE its handed to the network/phone provider .
AS I SAID
You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
jje
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but does it matter?
you can say you made a kies-update. -ther's nothin illegal with it.

OP said he wanted to revert back .
My phones warranty is invalid as i do not have the firmware supplied by the provider of the phone and i suspect that is true for all branded models .
Its up to the warranty provider where the phone was bought to accept non standard firmware on the phone or not . Mine refused point blank and even showed the instructions from Samsung reference warranty claims with non standard firmware and the tech went as far as to say that his company who are the seller of the phone and responsible for warranty will not repair any phone that does not have their branded firmware on it .
Thats what i always presume when answering >> i want to go back to stock >.that the OP requires to return to the firmware that came with the phone to safeguard warranty .As they also have no backup of the original firmware .
jje

But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1

mossy1963 said:
But by flashing 2.1 you are able to then flash to the most current stock firmware as released by your provider. That's the whole point
Sent from my GTI9000 using XDA App, Froyo 2.2.1, Darky's v9.3, Voodoo 5.4.1
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You are left to try the stock rom from samsungfirmware.com but its stock Samsung not the one that came with the phone .
+ yes if its accepted by Kies and for a number of users it has not and thats why Kies Registry patcher was used .
Stock samsung eclair rom failed to be accepted by Kies when i did exactly as you are suggesting . It required a spoofed Kies registry etc to get the update .
That is something i understand no longer works .
jje

Sorry but most of what you say just isn't true. If you flash to fw that predates your original fw and had the correct region code you can quite happily then use kies to upgrade to the current fw for your region. This is not detectable and cannot invalidate you warranty. So flash to ANY early fw, then let kies legally upgrade you - simple. Please don't peddle supposition as fact. And yes I've done this numerous times, and yes my phone had been back for an unrelated repair without warranty problems
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

Lets get a few things straight:
If its about warranty, most shops/centers want the firmware selected by kies, I know examples of people with kies software via a registry hack that where denied because it wasn't the right region.
Kies is still considered to be safer than Odin, although I never had trouble with Odin.
Again if you want if it for warranty just update your firmware with kies, alternatively you can check the latest version for you country/operator and download and flash the right firmware from sammiefirmware.

@stitch
exactly

Just use SpoofFW and flash normaly with kies...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959806
The registry hack doesn't work with kies2.0.

[Q][HELP] Galaxy s GT-I9000 Issues with Upgrading firmware. please help

Ok so i would like to update my galaxy to 2.3 gingerbread official using keis.
I live in Australia and based on what i have read the update should be out on my model of galaxy. When i plug my phone into keis it is saying i have the latest firmware. I have done some reading up on this and if i am correct some of the hacks and things i have done to my phone could cause it not to be able to update and i would like to know if this is true and how i can fix this.
Things i have done:
- I am currently running 2.2 froyo
- I have voodoo lagfix and soundfix installed.
- I used sgs tools from market to use the optus apps which came with my phone that where unusable since i was with virgin.
- I applied a 3 button fix i found as well so i could update voodoo easier. But in the end i just used Odin.
One thing i read was that i have to restore the system apps to update it. which i have done with all accept one but the .apk backup for it is not working so i cannot. Will i have to use Odin and revert back to the original firmware and start again? Or is there something i can do from here?

Short answer- You can't.
Gingerbread isn't out officially anywhere at present (there was a brief period where it was out on Kies for Scandinavia- hence all the semi-official "leaked" roms).
On past performance we're likely to be waiting a fair while here in Oz- once Official GB Roms come out from Samsung you then have to wait for all the local carriers to add their garbage to it (and - according to them- "test" it) before it gets released on kies. I'd bite the bullet and just grab a nice rom from here.
Remember if you do decide to wait for the official update, you will have to downgrade to stock for kies to recognise your right to an upgrade.

+ 120 to that NO upgrade to 2.3.3 YET .
All upgrades are unofficial .When Kies has your upgrade it upgrades
Then before update undo lagfix .
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje

I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way

myfifth said:
I think using odin to flash a stock rom back before updating by kies would be safe way
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Depends Kies does not recognize stock rom as product code etc dont match = no update through Kies . Stock is not network supplied firmware as original .
jje

JJEgan said:
Or to be really safe reinstall your original saved rom the one you saved before you started messing with the phone .
jje
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Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?

Zeruf said:
Lets just say I'm a total wanker and I didn't save my original rom. Am i stuck using custom roms from now?
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pretty much, unless some one has official firmware

[Q] Flash Back to Samsung Firmware

Euro Tab
Just installed the Gingerbread official firmware from forums but Kies will still not show current firmware, when I installed a ROM before it changed the format.
Is there a way to put the Tab back to stock firmware so that it works with Kies again now that we have an official release rather than using Odin
Thanks in advance

Vrati ga u nas samsung servis i kazi im da ti urade official stock.

n2ikola said:
Vrati ga u nas samsung servis i kazi im da ti urade official stock.
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English in the English forums please.....Whatever THAT language is it does not belong here.

Anybody
Still no answer is this not possible?
Just want to put tab back to out of the box state by re-flashing the tab using Kies.
I have done it using Odin and now have gingerbread but want it to sync with Kies for downloads again.

Well I did it.
I flashed Rotohammer v4 and used bootloader patch to see if there is a protected one. But as far as I know GB doesn't have protected bootloaders.
Then I flashed the P1000XWJJ4 firmware. Works for me. If this doesn't work try P1000XXJK5.
After that KIES recognizes your tab and offers you updates again.

Gtab DOES have protected boot loaders... They are generally loaded on from those official updates you seem to like... Be careful if you decide to put custom firmware on after reflashing stock as you might find you have a brick...

Can you clarify a bit more as I have flashed the official Gingerbread from Italy onto the device and it working fine apart from Kies does not show any firmware info.
Do I just need to flash the stock UK firmware including bootloaders when it is made avalible and then it should work again?
Tab states the following version info:
Firmware 2.3.3
Baseband P1000XXJPZ
Kernal 2.6.35.7 [email protected] #2
Build GINGERBREAD-XXJQ1

OK just tested again in Kies and it updated Kies to version 2
It now states:
This verision of the device can not be updated
Current firmware version: PDA:JQ1 / PHONE:JPZ / CSC:JQ1 (XEU)
Hopefully this means that when the UK update is released it will allow a force flash or something.