I have a phone that is in the range of phones effected by the standby of death thing and i didn't want to return it but it started affecting my phone, or at least i think it is. I almost always have a custom rom on it so could that be it. And also if i need to return my phone what should i do, should i just return it to jh7 and then call them to make a return or what? My IMEI ends in 3918.
yamato2 said:
I have a phone that is in the range of phones effected by the standby of death thing and i didn't want to return it but it started affecting my phone, or at least i think it is. I almost always have a custom rom on it so could that be it. And also if i need to return my phone what should i do, should i just return it to jh7 and then call them to make a return or what? My IMEI is ********3918.
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First of all, never expose ur IMEI like this.
Try changing the kernel/ROM and see if it still is exhibiting the same behavior.
diablo009 said:
First of all, never expose ur IMEI like this.
Try changing the kernel/ROM and see if it still is exhibiting the same behavior.
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Second, don't quote his mistake because now even if he edits his post the IMEI is still exposed.
tsk3
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I'm on the same boat.
Honestly, I'm switching over to a more stable ROM to avoid it, and then once the refurb Atrix/Infuse/Inspires come out, I'll ring warranty and pick one up.
what defines standby of death? 10% hr?
5% hr?
Really?!?!?!
cappyandroid said:
I'm on the same boat.
Honestly, I'm switching over to a more stable ROM to avoid it, and then once the refurb Atrix/Infuse/Inspires come out, I'll ring warranty and pick one up.
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So your saying that i can keep my phone and since it has that standby of death thing i can return it and get a atrix/infuse when they come out instead? If so that is awesome, because i got my captivate right before they announced them and i was really angry. But how would i go about doing that once they came out? And about the imei thing, sorry i forgot.
You can't return it for a different phone can you?
opcow said:
Second, don't quote his mistake because now even if he edits his post the IMEI is still exposed.
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I am sorry. Thanks for pointing out. Edited my post to mask out the IMEI.
JJ133169 said:
what defines standby of death? 10% hr?
5% hr?
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standby death means - phone turning itself off when in standby mode, irrespective of battery level.
mine used to turn off whenever it wanted be it the battery was in 90s, or in 80s, or anything for that matter. Never could I predict when I would find it turned off.
grave101 said:
You can't return it for a different phone can you?
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Under normal instances no they will send you the same device (at least ATT) as long as they have them.
you have 30 days from date of purchase to get a different phone, after that your stuck with what you have.
diablo009 said:
First of all, never expose ur IMEI like this.
Try changing the kernel/ROM and see if it still is exhibiting the same behavior.
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Why not? What can someone do with it?
JJ133169 said:
you have 30 days from date of purchase to get a different phone, after that your stuck with what you have.
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Phone bought in July.
1. Phone exchange (August)
2. New battery sent (Nov)
3. Phone exchange (Dec)
4. Phone exchange (Dec) <-- At this point AT&T said they would let me pick a different device if this too didn't work and was suffering sleep death issue
nydriek said:
Why not? What can someone do with it?
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In short, security reasons. Anyone could clone ur device if they know ur IMEI number.
diablo009 said:
Phone bought in July.
1. Phone exchange (August)
2. New battery sent (Nov)
3. Phone exchange (Dec)
4. Phone exchange (Dec) <-- At this point AT&T said they would let me pick a different device if this too didn't work and was suffering sleep death issue
In short, security reasons. Anyone could clone ur device if they know ur IMEI number.
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good thing 2 know thanks
diablo009 said:
Phone bought in July.
1. Phone exchange (August)
2. New battery sent (Nov)
3. Phone exchange (Dec)
4. Phone exchange (Dec) <-- At this point AT&T said they would let me pick a different device if this too didn't work and was suffering sleep death issue
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Yes, they can exchange your phone, I had a nokia mural replaced so many times I called the presidents office of AT&T, long story short I got a captivate for $99 dollars from that and a 3 month extension to my contract.
You can in special circumstances get a new phone, but unless you have it replaced 3+ times there not going to do much...
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Ok, so this has happened a few times now on various ROMs
I'll put my cappy on the charger for the night turned on with my alarm set. When I wake up (somehow on time luckily lol) it's turned off... I don't get it. What gives?
Regards
Smith
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Ok, so this has happened a few times now on various ROMs
I'll put my cappy on the charger for the night turned on with my alarm set. When I wake up (somehow on time luckily lol) it's turned off... I don't get it. What gives?
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Smith
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Maybe its time u got urs exchanged saying urs have sleep death issue
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diablo009 said:
Maybe its time u got urs exchanged saying urs have sleep death issue
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Maybe. To do that, all I have to do it flash back to stock right? Then return?
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Smith
smithisize said:
Maybe. To do that, all I have to do it flash back to stock right? Then return?
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Smith
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Yes please. Format the internal SD (optional, but I would prefer this), flash it to stock so all traces of messing with it are cleaned up.
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Yes please. Format the internal SD (optional, but I would prefer this), flash it to stock so all traces of messing with it are cleaned up.
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I also security unlocked it. Do I need to take care of that or do they even check that?
Also, I have a zagg screen cover on it which I adore and I've only had this phone for a couple months now at the most, I would hate to get rid of it
Will they replace that?
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Smith
smithisize said:
I also security unlocked it. Do I need to take care of that or do they even check that?
Also, I have a zagg screen cover on it which I adore and I've only had this phone for a couple months now at the most, I would hate to get rid of it
Will they replace that?
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Smith
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By "security unlock" if u mean network unlock, once u flash back to stock it should get reset again.
I unlocked mine on stock, n then when I loaded stock back when changing roms, i found it got locked again. So shouldn't be an issue.
And well, nothing can be done abt the screen protector.
Believe, I've the 4th captivate after 3 replacements for sleep death issue.
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By "security unlock" if u mean network unlock, once u flash back to stock it should get reset again.
I unlocked mine on stock, n then when I loaded stock back when changing roms, i found it got locked again. So shouldn't be an issue.
And well, nothing can be done abt the screen protector.
Believe, I've the 4th captivate after 3 replacements for sleep death issue.
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Well, at that rate, a screen protector isn't even really important lol. We'll see if the problem persists :/
Thanks for all your advice, you're great!
Regards
Smith
smithisize said:
Well, at that rate, a screen protector isn't even really important lol. We'll see if the problem persists :/
Thanks for all your advice, you're great!
Regards
Smith
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Thanks Smith. When u get ur replacement I would recommend u wait for 3-4 days, confirm it does not have sleep death or charge death issues, and then apply screen protector.
Like the dood said - Flash back to stock.. but I would test to see if it keeps happening. If you have a Build 1008 phone - it seems to be more prevalent on that build then others.
Mine happens when the phone is fully charged especially. I would test that to see if you can get it to repeat or AT&T will just give you a replacement battery instead of a refurbed phone.
Will do, if I even get one this time around. We will see...
Thanks again!
Regards
Smith
I have a 1008 build phone and I'm hoping to exchange mine within the week. I flashed back to stock with Odin 1Click on Tuesday and I noticed it isn't entirely the same as when I bought the phone. There are some default apps missing, QuickOffice for one. Anyone have ideas?
avgjoegeek said:
Like the dood said - Flash back to stock.. but I would test to see if it keeps happening. If you have a Build 1008 phone - it seems to be more prevalent on that build then others.
Mine happens when the phone is fully charged especially. I would test that to see if you can get it to repeat or AT&T will just give you a replacement battery instead of a refurbed phone.
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Hmm. How would I get it to repeat lol, charge it all the way and wait? And do you think they would really sit there and wait for the battery to charge to 100 to test or just swap?
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Smith
You can download Quick Office from ATT Market. It's not needed for returning it back to AT&T. All of the base bloatware is returned to the phone after you Odin it.
avgjoegeek said:
You can download Quick Office from ATT Market. It's not needed for returning it back to AT&T. All of the base bloatware is returned to the phone after you Odin it.
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Don't think too much. Format the internal SD, and revert to stock and return in. One click odin to stock gets it close to how AT&T gave u the phone. A couple optional apps missing shouldn't matter.
avgjoegeek said:
You can download Quick Office from ATT Market. It's not needed for returning it back to AT&T. All of the base bloatware is returned to the phone after you Odin it.
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diablo009 said:
Don't think too much. Format the internal SD, and revert to stock and return in. One click odin to stock gets it close to how AT&T gave u the phone. A couple optional apps missing shouldn't matter.
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Great, thanks. That is all I needed to hear. Hopefully returning it today. Then as long as I can use the three-button mode to get into download and recovery, I think I'm going to try flashing my first ROM bundle.
So I exchanged my phone tonight. They gave me a 1007 build, however my IMEI ends in 0652. The guy at AT&T told me that Samsung had replaced the bad component causing the shutdown problem and was re-issuing old phones. They apparently don't change the IMEI. I'll see what happens. If it starts shutting down again, I'm back in the store for a new one.
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So I exchanged my phone tonight. They gave me a 1007 build, however my IMEI ends in 0652. The guy at AT&T told me that Samsung had replaced the bad component causing the shutdown problem and was re-issuing old phones. They apparently don't change the IMEI. I'll see what happens. If it starts shutting down again, I'm back in the store for a new one.
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Yes. AT&T person is right. After multiple exchanges, my 4th n current phone is a 10.07 build, been using for over 2 months now n its been good.
If I flash back to stock rom, will they be able to tell that I have flashed other roms?
I'm considering trying to get a replacement due to random shut downs. My work has me on call and sometimes I pick up my phone and I don't know how long it's been off. My employees often text me important stuff from the job. So this is important to me.
So will they be able to tell?
Nope, make sure to master clear and then get the JH7 update to be sure.
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Nope, make sure to master clear and then get the JH7 update to be sure.
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Agreed.
Though I suggest you hold out for another week or two and have them replace it for the Inspire. I'm going to do that soon, and speak to their 'Android specialists' about it.
Two things I don't like about that phone are the size (it's huge) and the lcd screen. I don't think I could go to an lcd after using samoled.
Plus, how would that work. I have a 2 year commitment with this phone, how could I trade for that one. I'm well past my trial period.
did you buy phone insurance? u coulda always just drop the phone and bust the screen.
if not, flash back to stock and the n00bs in the store wont know the difference. however, if you are well past your trial period, att is gonna send you to samsung more than likely. at least that is what they tried to do with me. my first captivate shut down every time i got a text message.
If you're insisting on switching phones, contact warranty and they'll send you another one. After they've sent you two Captivates, you are within your rights to ask for a different make and model. If they don't comply just ask for the Resolutions team, and they'll help you out.
thank you all
bms231 said:
did you buy phone insurance? u coulda always just drop the phone and bust the screen.
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Because insurance fraud is always a good idea (purposely breaking your phone is insurance fraud FYI).
yeah. just say you lost your phone and keep it as a spare. i've done it twice now with no problems what so ever.
task650 said:
yeah. just say you lost your phone and keep it as a spare. i've done it twice now with no problems what so ever.
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They won't put a block on the lost phone?
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They won't put a block on the lost phone?
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Last time i checked they did but eeh if it work for him it works...
Hi Yesterday my phone did 1 sleep of death, well today when I woke up it did not want to get up, so I took the battery out plugged it back in and it started fine.
This is the first time this has happened and I have no idea if it is really a sleep of death ( I have had the phone since June 2010 ) so it is still under Samsung warrante , no idea if I should send it to the factory for a repair OR Just chill because it has only happened once any comments are appreciated.
There are several threads about the random shutdown issue. Both at&t and samsung are aware of the issue. If your phone is a 10.06 build, it would certainly be susceptible.
My first phone was a10.06 build purchased in august. It had its first random shutdown in late november. From that point the random shutdowns were gradually increasing in frequency.
I asked for a warranty replacement by phone since the nearest service center is about a two hour round trip for me. The first rep I spoke to forwarded me to a samsung specialist who assured me that the replacement phone would not have the random shutdowns.
This was just before the official 2.2 update came out, so my new phone, which is a 10.08 build, came with jh7 installed and had fully working gps.
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Did it not power up when u pressed and held the power button. Or were u forced to pull out battery?
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There are several threads about the random shutdown issue. Both at&t and samsung are aware of the issue. If your phone is a 10.06 build, it would certainly be susceptible.
My first phone was a10.06 build purchased in august. It had its first random shutdown in late november. From that point the random shutdowns were gradually increasing in frequency.
I asked for a warranty replacement by phone since the nearest service center is about a two hour round trip for me. The first rep I spoke to forwarded me to a samsung specialist who assured me that the replacement phone would not have the random shutdowns.
This was just before the official 2.2 update came out, so my new phone, which is a 10.08 build, came with jh7 installed and had fully working gps.
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ok i have a 1006 build and never had a random shutdown. if i do eventually, at this point it would almost be better just to deal with it, right?
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diablo009 said:
Did it not power up when u pressed and held the power button. Or were u forced to pull out battery?
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did not power up when pressed and held the power button, I had to remove the battery
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creepyncrawly said:
There are several threads about the random shutdown issue. Both at&t and samsung are aware of the issue. If your phone is a 10.06 build, it would certainly be susceptible.
My first phone was a10.06 build purchased in august. It had its first random shutdown in late november. From that point the random shutdowns were gradually increasing in frequency.
I asked for a warranty replacement by phone since the nearest service center is about a two hour round trip for me. The first rep I spoke to forwarded me to a samsung specialist who assured me that the replacement phone would not have the random shutdowns.
This was just before the official 2.2 update came out, so my new phone, which is a 10.08 build, came with jh7 installed and had fully working gps.
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My phone is a 1007 rev 2 it has great gps, no idea if the 1007 suffer from the sleep of death or no, that's what I would like to know if it was a 1 time single incident or if I should run to samsung asap. Thx
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chuby007 said:
did not power up when pressed and held the power button, I had to remove the battery
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Do u have any UC or UV settings set on ur phone. These two are possible reasons for not responding to power button.
chuby007 said:
My phone is a 1007 rev 2 it has great gps, no idea if the 1007 suffer from the sleep of death or no, that's what I would like to know if it was a 1 time single incident or if I should run to samsung asap. Thx
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There was a thread here somewhere that had in the first post a reproduction of a letter to at&t service techs advising about the problem of the random shutdowns. In that letter there was an explanation that if the phone has an ime number below a certain value then it might be succeptible. I believe if I remember correctly that affected phones could be 1008 or earlier. You'd have to search out that thread to find out what number you have to be below.
On my phone, when it turned off, I could turn it back on with the power button. I only had to pull the battery on one or two occasions. But others have reported in the various threads having to pull the battery to turn the phone back on and still replacing it through warranty. On my phone, I tried everything I could think of to correct the problem, but nothing helped. First, follow up leads like the one from diablo about over clock/under volt, or anything else that might be causing this. Then, maybe you should watch it for a few weeks and see what happens. If you have the random shutdown problem, it will keep happening.
If you purchased the phone from at&t, then they will replace it under warranty if it has the problem. If not, I guess you have to go to samsung for warranty replacement. In that case, I think you have to send your phone in to them first.
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Do u have any UC or UV settings set on ur phone. These two are possible reasons for not responding to power button.
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Please clarify "UC or UV"?
diablo009 said:
Do u have any UC or UV settings set on ur phone. These two are possible reasons for not responding to power button.
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yes I do have OC and UV settings on my phone... maybe that was it I'll keep an eye for that thank you !
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There was a thread here somewhere that had in the first post a reproduction of a letter to at&t service techs advising about the problem of the random shutdowns. In that letter there was an explanation that if the phone has an ime number below a certain value then it might be succeptible. I believe if I remember correctly that affected phones could be 1008 or earlier. You'd have to search out that thread to find out what number you have to be below.
On my phone, when it turned off, I could turn it back on with the power button. I only had to pull the battery on one or two occasions. But others have reported in the various threads having to pull the battery to turn the phone back on and still replacing it through warranty. On my phone, I tried everything I could think of to correct the problem, but nothing helped. First, follow up leads like the one from diablo about over clock/under volt, or anything else that might be causing this. Then, maybe you should watch it for a few weeks and see what happens. If you have the random shutdown problem, it will keep happening.
If you purchased the phone from at&t, then they will replace it under warranty if it has the problem. If not, I guess you have to go to samsung for warranty replacement. In that case, I think you have to send your phone in to them first.
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I'll check those numbers out maybe I'm one of the "lucky" ones with a phone that can fail :S
I got it from AT&T and payed full price for it cause it was comming to my country I think AT&T warranty expired so I have to go the samsung way :S
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it's OC UV
OC = over clocking
UV = under volting
you can read about it all over
Unless I reboot. What's the deal? Only started happening today. Restarted about 10 times just to receive texts. It's updated to 2.3.5 as well, so it's not even the 2.3.3 issue.
Which rom are you using?
Did you try factory reset?
default rom.
it started working, but i contacted htc customer support and they told me to do a soft reset. pull out the battery whilst the phone is on. now i just read that you're not supposed to do that. huh.
martyfly1990 said:
default rom.
it started working, but i contacted htc customer support and they told me to do a soft reset. pull out the battery whilst the phone is on. now i just read that you're not supposed to do that. huh.
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Who is your carrier?
O2.
So a couple of people said they haven't received my texts now. Dunno what's going on.
Anyway, does pulling out the battery whist the phone is on cause any damage to the OS or the phone in general?
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O2.
So a couple of people said they haven't received my texts now. Dunno what's going on.
Anyway, does pulling out the battery whist the phone is on cause any damage to the OS or the phone in general?
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Who is your carrier? Are you on Optus?
Have you verified if your APN settings are correct?
martyfly1990 said:
O2.
So a couple of people said they haven't received my texts now. Dunno what's going on.
Anyway, does pulling out the battery whist the phone is on cause any damage to the OS or the phone in general?
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Yes. It can break a certain part of the hardware ......... processor? But I'm not sure
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martyfly1990 said:
O2.
So a couple of people said they haven't received my texts now. Dunno what's going on.
Anyway, does pulling out the battery whist the phone is on cause any damage to the OS or the phone in general?
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Doing that while the phone is booting can fry your emmc chip. Better to use 3 button combo to reset.
What version radio do you have? Some of the older ones had delayed missed SMS/calls issue.
The led strip,logo, fan, fingerprint complete stop !!! Alone I rest the phone and it is the same problem I removed everything the phone new help please
What software version do you have?
Is it rooted?
No it's not I have last version
No it's not rooted
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What software version do you have?
Is it rooted?
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No it's not rooty , Android version 9
almlksam3 said:
No it's not rooty , Android version 9
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One in ten phones have defects. That's simply statistics.
You have a defective phone.
You need to return it and replace it with a working phone.
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What software version do you have?
Is it rooted?
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nabbed said:
One in ten phones have defects. That's simply statistics.
You have a defective phone.
You need to return it and replace it with a working phone.
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Haha that's is the problem I buy it from Israel and I am now study in Georgia
Try factory reset. If that doesn't work, "Game over man! Game over!"
almlksam3 said:
Haha that's is the problem I buy it from Israel and I am now study in Georgia
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Have you flashed the phone since you got it?
Seems odd that, that many things would fail all at once without the phone completely going kaput.
Though, if I had to guess, I'd say one of the layers of the phone became disconnected if it's not software related.
Psyrecx said:
Have you flashed the phone since you got it?
Seems odd that, that many things would fail all at once without the phone completely going kaput.
Though, if I had to guess, I'd say one of the layers of the phone became disconnected if it's not software related.
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The phone new I get this problem after 2 months I don't do anything to it when I get update I update it the problem start from rgb and fan then the logo then the fingerprint I don't know why
Loose connections internally could be the issue, though there'd need to be a couple of them in order for that many things to fail.
Either way, sounds like an RMA would be the only way to fix it, and it shouldn't matter where you purchased it.