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Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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DarkKrypt said:
Honestly go out and check it out for yourself.
Everyone will and can have their own opinion, but in the end it is your choice.
I for one like it
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Thanks for responding!
I would love to check it out, but here in Norway we dont get it before 6-10Mars. I went to the store today to check out the display on the Xperia V, and i gotta say i liked it alot more than my Amoled S3.
AW: So is the screen THAT bad?
Screen is just fine. Lots of exageration.
The vieweing angles are sub-premium, this is true, but perfectly ok. First its only the colours which wash out a bit, its not like you wouldnt see anything anymore plus, to be honest, how often and for jow long do you look at your phone flat and sideways...?
I like the screen a lot. Nice colours to look at, insane resolution and pixel density , everything is so damn crisp and clear. I mean hello, its a flaghship after all, they dont dare to put utter bull**** in it. As I said, lots of exaggeration.
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
Yesterday I tested 3 Xperia Z with bright pixel. But finally got one that has none.
avetny said:
TFT with high resolution. Colors are bad.
Regards
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Depends on your definition of good colors.
When looking at photos vs one x without BE turned on colors are pretty close to the real thing including vibrancy and saturation. Now if you are the kind of person that likes unhealthy yellow skin tones, better than real life colors than yeah colors are no good. When people say it looks washed out they actually mean it is not punchy the truth is that when you look at the real world vs s3 and one x the real world seems to be washed out
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
The only "problem" with it is colour saturation in UI. When BE2 kicks in, and you're on 60%+ brightness, colours and brightness are amazing. And since BE2 doesn't change the screen's physical properties - it means that the screen itself is perfectly fine. The only thing you can be unhappy with is UI's default saturation values, which are quite low, probably to make the difference between media and UI very noticable.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
For me, coming straight from an S3 to this, it really does look washed out, no mater how you look at it.
However, I think that this is because the S3 had very over saturated colours. If you do decide to go for the XZ, you'll be disappointed at first, but it feels much more premium and you'll start to realise that the S3 seemed like it was in Shop Display Mode all the time!
Ultimately, the choice is yours, but don't be downhearted if you go for it and you're initially unhappy with the screen.
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Which is basically what everyone else has already said here.
Maybe Sony should have added a samsung mode where it sets the saturation up to 120%, the contrast to .800 and maximum brightness to 50% so you can't see anything when outdoors.
I think you'll be happy with the screen if you upgraded from other xperia family phones. But if you will compare it side by side with other 1080 LCD phones like htc butterfly, hell even with HTC One X which has 720P and a year older, Z can't match overall display quality. Trust your eyes. To see is to believe.
HypnOtizer12 said:
Hello,
As i am today a not very-pleased s3 owner, i decided that i will give Sony a try for the first time. After looking much at especially the V and the Z, i`ve decided that the Z will be the phone i will enough pleased with.
Anyway, i habe been reeding alot about this phone the last days, and i keep reading that the screen is not "good" enough, and that is something that concerns me.
So i am asking YOU GUYS that are a lucky owner of the Xperia Z; How does the screen feel like? Is it relly THAT bad as people is talking about? I really want this phone. I love sonys interface and water+dust proof is a must for me these days.
I hope someone can give me a good answer.
Appreciated !
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Got this one from Esato, Xperia Z Screen test
Screen test of xperia z https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH_3Zz045B0 Nice colours and viewing angles
The black is the most black lcd could reach
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Here is a few videos that should help you decide for yourself:
http://youtu.be/DoNQcM8T4c8
http://youtu.be/JH_3Zz045B0
http://youtu.be/P32rdsmgNqU
Got this yesterday and the screen is better than One x and nexus 4 except viewing angles.
The phone is a little laggier than Nexus 4 but faster.
Overall im very impressed.
??????? You ok bro?
Akiainavas said:
Stop this BS already... screen is very good.
Also, it's true - "washed out" colours are actually a lot closer to natural colours. If you want very saturated colours all the time - you might not be satisfied. If you want completely oversaturated colours - go for AMOLED, they're amazing in producing rich, highly saturated colours.
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All Sony screens are very good from my past experience, people are just used to over saturated colors that other companies do to their phones. Also, you eyes will strain much less when you look at Sony screens for extended period of times.
Also, I don't understand what's with the ruckus of angle viewing, seriously, how many of you out there actively view the screen from a angle? its just retarded to compare that, it's not even a point.
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I personally really like the screen. I hated the screen on the s3 and thought the colours looked unnatural and oversaturated. With the XZ, while it may be 'washed out' to some, I actually find the colours, contrast, etc. quite nice to look at and natural. The s3 and the like hurt my eyes. Plus viewing angles aren't half as bad as I expected them to be given all the hysteria regarding them prior to release.
I posted this in the other thread "clearing up the....."
"I have now spent 48 hours with my XZ in the UK. I really like the display. It is sharp, vibrant and realistic in terms of colour and saturation. I could not get on with the amoled display of the HTC desire and the samsung galaxy. Too unrealistic imho. The bravia engine takes it to another level for movies and pictures: It will impress your friends!
I was hesitating with the iminent release of the HTC one. I have absolutley no regrets. It is a beautiful phone and a beautiful display."
well if the only downside is "bad view angles" and "low sturation" its great display because
1. i look my fone from front not side
2. i dont like too saturated colours (red must be red not burning red example)
3. resolution n ppi is high enough to make clear and nice pic
here is some screen comparisons
vs iphone 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duWECOuUhb8#t=632s
vs SG3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHmvUeMWAu8#t=644s
its in german so you might wanna turn translation on
and here is some first impressions & talk about the screen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P32rdsmgNqU
Overall it looks like a pretty good screen, if you dont care about viewing angles that much you will like it
hi guys
my friend gave me his Ox+ for a while in order to flashing a custom rom.. so.. i struck when the iron was hot
here is my comparison.. just have to say something.. maybe these pictures don't show the reality.. in this topic i'm
trying to make a fair comparison and tell the truth which i saw on my eyes
one other thing.. sorry for my not so good English :cyclops:
both of these devices use LCD technology (IPS HD+ for nexy and super clear LCD on Ox+)
regarding to GsmArena test Nexus has a much brighter display (608 vs 420) but i must say it's not sensible..
and Ox+ provide more contrast (1521 vs 1320) .. well i must say Nexus had more contrast on my eyes and it was sensible!!!!
here is some pics:
right/up is nexus... left/down is Ox+
1st pic; a nature
both of them are damn good!! very sharp displays.. excellent color reproduction, contrast and etc..
i think Ox+ provide a warmer colors.. and nexus had more contrast on my eyes
both of them are pretty close in this pic
2nd: red flower
again.. both of them are verrry good.. but again i must say nexus has more contrast and ox has warmer display
look at the left corner.. white is damn good on nexus but seems yellowish on OX+
3rd : jelly bean..!!
i must say nexus is the obvious winner in this pic.. better contrast.. excellent white and richer color..
4th : pure white
no explanation..! n4 definitely wins here..it provide best white i've ever seen on any device..!!
5th : pure black comparison:
sorry.. i didn't have a good camera to show the real differences.. but i mus say ox+ had better blacks.. although
maybe it's because of brighter display on n4.. but on full brightness i must say ox+ wins
6th: viewing angle
again sorry fir no pic 'cause of camera..
both phones had verry good horizontal and vertical viewing angles.. ox+ was a little darker..
but if view them from the corners ox+ wins..! no changing color and contrast.. very good.. i must give win to One x
let me know if you like it.. :good:
i can make a camera comparison if you want :fingers-crossed:
i must say that i used FauxClock for screen calibration.. it's not fraud..
custom rom/kernel/mod is part of a nexus device
any comment?
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any comment?
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Good Comparison what else can be commented
I also noticed that the colors on the One X are more yellowish. Good comparison!
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Nice. Care to share your screen settings?
Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!
shockem said:
Nice. Care to share your screen settings?
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Aye, what kernel or any settings were you using?
Nice comparison, and I guess it may surprise a few people!
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sure :fingers-crossed:
FauxClock app, Obsanity Amoled profile (+5(*3) to 2nd gama setting), Matr1x kernel, LiquidSmooth rom
Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison
My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.
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Screen of Nexus 4 was calibrated according to your taste.So does it effect the outcome of Picture quality?
If yes then is this a fair comparison
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yeah.. i calibrated N4 color.. but as i said, "modding, custom rom/kernel" is part of a Nexus device.. so.. i think it's definitely fair comparison..!
Fatherboard said:
My friend has a regular One X, and its display is far more rich, bright and responsive (probably the best touchscreen I tried) than the one in the Nexus 4. You can clearly see the differences under direct sunlight.
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calibrate your screen and go to fight
Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked
Fatherboard said:
Calibration won't improve the touch behavior.
Tapatalked
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I'm a previous htc one x owner. Let me tell you, the touchscreen was no better than what i experience in the N4. If anything it was less sensitive. I remember actually holding my thumb down to that ****ing piece of **** you call a screen on the one x hoping for it to react. Regardless, if anything, the N4 is MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better on the screen side since 4.3.
I actually hated the ONE x so much that i decided to drop it a second time to shatter the display once and for all after i had already mistakenly dropped it. Piece of ****.
**** that thing. Worst device ever
Drains battery like i drain my **** down the toilet when i have instant diarrhea pills shoved down my throat.
U used wrong calibration, use iphone 5 calibration with franco kernel
Ok so from my understanding, the only thing x reality does is enhance the color of pictures and videos from your gallery. Which means if you send the file to another phone, the picture will look different from the one in your phone.
Because of this, i really dont see the point of the whole thing. It would be awesome if the effect that x reality will give you can be applied permanently to pictures taken from your camera. A lot of times, because of x reality, i thought my pictures taken with my camera looks awesome just to find out after transfering the file to my computer that it is actually a bit off..
So what is the whole point of xreality? Imo, it just adds confusion to everything. It shadows the actual look of your pictures.. Sure it looks good on your phone but only in your phone. If they can make your photo so stunning with x reality why not just make photos taken look that way instead?? Am i missing something here? I just dont understand. I feel like x reality is dumb and nothing but a marketing tactic to psyche out customers..
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Ok so from my understanding, the only thing x reality does is enhance the color of pictures and videos from your gallery. Which means if you send the file to another phone, the picture will look different from the one in your phone.
Because of this, i really dont see the point of the whole thing. It would be awesome if the effect that x reality will give you can be applied permanently to pictures taken from your camera. A lot of times, because of x reality, i thought my pictures taken with my camera looks awesome just to find out after transfering the file to my computer that it is actually a bit off..
So what is the whole point of xreality? Imo, it just adds confusion to everything. It shadows the actual look of your pictures.. Sure it looks good on your phone but only in your phone. If they can make your photo so stunning with x reality why not just make photos taken look that way instead?? Am i missing something here? I just dont understand. I feel like x reality is dumb and nothing but a marketing tactic to psyche out customers..
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I suppose its meant for your personal use only, enhancing the quality of the media YOU watch on YOUR device
this is only my opinion
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The answer to your question is really simple. The X-Reality is a display enhancement, not a picture enhancement. Try to apply this on televisions: if you buy a Sony tv with X-Reality processor you will have better images, if you buy a Sony tv without it it will be worst (but also cheaper). That's the point of X-Reality and any picture enhancement of any brand.
Pictures look different on any screen, that's a basic concept that let you understand why there are televisions that costs more than ten times than others.
Xreality and systems like that is bogus...
It is like putting the Mona Lisa behind colour enhancement glass and with a whole different light tone...
Bogus...
It is nothing more than makeup and silicone tits...
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pshdo said:
Xreality and systems like that is bogus...
It is like putting the Mona Lisa behind colour enhancement glass and with a whole different light tone...
Bogus...
It is nothing more than makeup and silicone tits...
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Silicone tits some time really awesome
It is not bad really
Simply put? Watching movies with X-reality on the z1 is a fantastic experiance other than that I don't care what it does or not.
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Never saw a difference enabling or not the X-Reality. Something what I like doesn't mean others like. So it's your choice.
Preferences are personal. However, calling it bogus is, in my opinion, a bit exaggerated...
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X- Reality works well with me. I love it when I watch movies on the phone
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Preferences are personal. However, calling it bogus is, in my opinion, a bit exaggerated...
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Agreed, it is 100% personal pref.
If you like the world as it is, or if you want to artificial enhance it to something it is not...
In the 70´ people had purple glasses, as they made the world look soooo right and groovy...
- but it was not real, ithink we can agree on that...
People used LSD and smoked wheed, to enhance the world, but that was not real eigther...
Also in the 70´, there was WHO liked the real flat plain hifi sound, and others that started to put it throug a EQ to enhance it...
- but Again, that enhanced sound is not real, and not what the performer wanted the sound to be eigther...
This way a lot of people allways want to see the world artificial enhanced, while other people want the real thing or as close to as possible...
And to me, artificial enhancements like that IS bogus...
- nothing other than fake realty, really...
Happy xmas
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Agreed, it is 100% personal pref.
If you like the world as it is, or if you want to artificial enhance it to something it is not...
In the 70´ people had purple glasses, as they made the world look soooo right and groovy...
- but it was not real, ithink we can agree on that...
People used LSD and smoked wheed, to enhance the world, but that was not real eigther...
Also in the 70´, there was WHO liked the real flat plain hifi sound, and others that started to put it throug a EQ to enhance it...
- but Again, that enhanced sound is not real, and not what the performer wanted the sound to be eigther...
This way a lot of people allways want to see the world artificial enhanced, while other people want the real thing or as close to as possible...
And to me, artificial enhancements like that IS bogus...
- nothing other than fake realty, really...
Happy xmas
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Lol, so i'm guessing you only see documenty films on your device right? Rofl! Holywood movie are artifical as it is, X- reality makes them only look better!
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its just an enhancement for your viewing just like tv and just like what the others said. so if you dont like to use it,why buy sony
mharckk said:
its just an enhancement for your viewing just like tv and just like what the others said. so if you dont like to use it,why buy sony
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Cuz waterproof 'n' 20.7 MP Camera?
shteren said:
Holywood movie are artifical as it is, X- reality makes them only look better!
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So you, with your cheap X reality enhancement feature, is better to decide what the holywood movie should look like, than the movie director himself ??
I agree that you have the right to decide what you want to look at (as have i), but x reality, and other systems like that, don´t do anything other than fake the things up even more...
You can compare them to just turning the contrast, or the red colour to max on your tv, if that was what YOU think looks best...
- it is not real, but you can offcource do what you want....
The director of the movie know what "feel" he want in the movie, as do the performer on your music cd...
They spend many hours to do it "just so"...
- and why, when you claim that your x reality and sound EQ features and so on, do it even better ??:silly:
Funny thought...
If X is unknown, then what is then X reality, really...
the same can be said for Samsung's over saturation on a phone like a Galaxy S4 with their amoled displays. The X-Reality isnt even as close as that in terms of making pictures look not realistic or true to the actual thing. so for the people that call it 'bogus' should appreciate the fact that it can be turned off. unlike those of Samsung phones.
#allhailsony
I would argue that the things you consider "real", are actually highly processed and distorted sensory input that your brain manipulates into what you perceive as "real". In other words, what you consider "real"can easily be argued to be "fake"in the manner that I think you mean. But of course, you can choose to believe this truth or not, it remains true with our without consent. Certainly, changing the color settings on a screen is not anymore "fake" than what your eyes see is "real".
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So you, with your cheap X reality enhancement feature, is better to decide what the holywood movie should look like, than the movie director himself ??
I agree that you have the right to decide what you want to look at (as have i), but x reality, and other systems like that, don´t do anything other than fake the things up even more...
You can compare them to just turning the contrast, or the red colour to max on your tv, if that was what YOU think looks best...
- it is not real, but you can offcource do what you want....
The director of the movie know what "feel" he want in the movie, as do the performer on your music cd...
They spend many hours to do it "just so"...
- and why, when you claim that your x reality and sound EQ features and so on, do it even better ??:silly:
Funny thought...
If X is unknown, then what is then X reality, really...
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Ok so from my understanding, the only thing x reality does is enhance the color of pictures and videos from your gallery
Or does it just make it look worse when it's not switched on? So normal is x and non x is worse?
Placebo !!!! i think so.
The LG V20 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
i hate the image retention, my sony z3c, samsung note 4/edge not having the same issue.
Ghosting
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It's past 1 year mark.
The screen ghosting issue is so prominent that it's annoying.
This is well known in the.forum's but it's not something that lg is talking about.
I'm going to have to find out if there is a recall or can get this fixed.
Truly disappointed.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
Tl;dr:
Rooted: KCAL
Unrooted: SFilter/Night Screen in Google Play Store
I think Lg v20 display has a Good Pixel per inch ratio so that We can't see any dot with naked eye but thw color production is Soo Bad .....
I mean if we compare with Samsun display... They Are far better then This
maxi65 said:
I think Lg v20 display has a Good Pixel per inch ratio so that We can't see any dot with naked eye but thw color production is Soo Bad .....
I mean if we compare with Samsun display... They Are far better then This
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The color reproduction on the LG panels is actually *really* good. Samsung cranks the vibrancy and saturation up on their displays because it is pleasing to most people's eyes. If anything, Samsungs color reproduction is vastly inferior with default settings. Both class of panels can be calibrated to be more correct though.
The other thing is that LGs colors are "cooler" and Samsung *always* biases towards warmer displays.
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The color reproduction on the LG panels is actually *really* good. Samsung cranks the vibrancy and saturation up on their displays because it is pleasing to most people's eyes. If anything, Samsungs color reproduction is vastly inferior with default settings. Both class of panels can be calibrated to be more correct though.
The other thing is that LGs colors are "cooler" and Samsung *always* biases towards warmer displays.
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As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.
maxi65 said:
As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.
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In what ways? And don't forget you are comparing an IPS-LCD to SAMOLED+ which will have vastly better blacks. LCDs can't yet compete on the contrast of an OLED.
I don't care what people want. They jump from one has to another and sacrifice utility for form at the drop of a hat.
I'll keep my color correct LCD that won't suffer from actual burn in
(My retention is all but nonexistent and that isn't permanent regardless)
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In what ways? And don't forget you are comparing an IPS-LCD to SAMOLED+ which will have vastly better blacks. LCDs can't yet compete on the contrast of an OLED.
I don't care what people want. They jump from one has to another and sacrifice utility for form at the drop of a hat.
I'll keep my color correct LCD that won't suffer from actual burn in
(My retention is all but nonexistent and that isn't permanent regardless)
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Whatever it is.... There is no comparison between Ips LCD and SuperAmoled display .
By the way your retention problem can simply be fixed if you're rooted
maxi65 said:
Whatever it is.... There is no comparison between Ips LCD and SuperAmoled display .
By the way your retention problem can simply be fixed if you're rooted
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Oh I know. I run custom kcal settings
maxi65 said:
As we all knows people want Color vibrancy which Samsung is delivering actually.
I've tried to calibrate my display many time but even LG's display can't compete with Samsung's 2013 flagships display.
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You can try using the built-in Comfort View to make the display warmer. I set mine to high and it looks really close to my Galaxy Note 4, using the Basic display color option.
phamanhvu01 said:
You can try using the built-in Comfort View to make the display warmer. I set mine to high and it looks really close to my Galaxy Note 4, using the Basic display color option.
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Low,mid,high?
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Low,mid,high?
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Yup that one. I use high on mine. Here's a comparison to my Note 4 with the basic color mode. The Note 4 is warmer here, but I'd say that it's pretty close. And a heck lot better than stock.
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Yup that one. I use high on mine. Here's a comparison to my Note 4 with the basic color mode. The Note 4 is warmer here, but I'd say that it's pretty close. And a heck lot better than stock.
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There is much difference between these two
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There is much difference between these two
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Well...okay for you then.
Image retention
Have you experienced that? Annoying...
fanasty said:
Have you experienced that? Annoying...
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Here is the working fix of image retention for your rooted fone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
maxi65 said:
Here is the working fix of image retention for your rooted fone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/lg-v20-screen-burn-fixed-t3661631
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Thanks for the tips. but I d rather not root it for security concerns.
Screen Ghosting
XDA_RealLifeReview said:
The LG V20 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Its terrible, Is this a known issue I want a new phone.
fanasty said:
Thanks for the tips. but I d rather not root it for security concerns.
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Visit the thread I've Posted previously in my Reply.
There are some users who have reported a working method for non rooted devices
Peace
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
willhemmens said:
Feel free to enlighten me but unless you spend all your time looking at a dark solid grey background, I don't see why this is an issue. I have tested mine with a similar image and to my eyes, the screen is perfect.
Your link to the image is dead btw.
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Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
KastrO_on said:
Many apps has dark gray background. First I didn't test anything I just noticed it in youtube app - dark mode. Its quite disappointing.
I tried all three links on another pc and they are working.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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While they do have a dark grey background, there is usually something in front of the background to draw your eye to instead.
Thanks for letting me know about the links, it's amazing how editing your post, fixing the links and saving the post makes the links work. I did check the links and all I see is noise.
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Not every time background is covered by content. I can clearly see difference on youtube app, top part of display is slightly lighter and greenish and bottom is darker and reddish.
I did nothing to the links. I just tried to add pictures (insert image) but it didn't work.
seems my note 9 does not have the issue u reported
see the pic u posted as screenshot from my note 9
No issue here.
KastrO_on said:
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
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I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
HellDiverUK said:
I think you think wrong. From which orifice did you pluck that 90% figure from?
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Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
KastrO_on said:
Thats how mass production works. Or do you think im the only one who got exclusive defective device?
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Actually, mass production usually aims for less than 1% failure rate, so I'm pretty confident you got one of those >1%.
Considering YOU are the only one complaining, then yes, you're probably one unlucky person.
If you were talking about a Google Pixel 2/3, then yes, you're likely to have a **** screen, because that's how they are. Samsung screens aren't like that at all - the Note 9 has one of, if not THE best screen available on any phone.
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Thats why Im disappointed. Didnt expect this from Samsung.
Im going to try another piece so we will see.
KastrO_on said:
I didn't expect 1000€ device still has this issue.
If you want to test it on your note 9 download this image: https://i.imgur.com/DUEKJzH.jpg
It is dark solid grey background.
In dark room open this image and set brightness to low. You should see uniform gray color.
I think at least 90% devices has this problem.
Here is what I see:
https://imgur.com/a/efvMZXE
https://imgur.com/a/uJPa8jE
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I am pretty sure they will agree to change it + the chances to draw again a problematic display are really slim. Sadly some do have such a problem and actually I saw a lot worse on the xda forums. Return it for exchange is my advice.
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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TML1504 said:
Look in my thread history. I made threads about Samsung display uniformity issues since Note3!
It got better over the years, but still I estimate only 10-30% of all Amoled screens are perfect.
Samsung makes things right in terms of quality management, because most customers do not notice this flaw, but if you are sensible to it, it's hard to ignore!
in my threads I also explained the reason for this, which is how amoled screens are produced. they are cut out of wafers after lithography. only devices cut out of the center of the wafer have almost uniform screens. the more from a side your screen has been cut out, the worse the screen quality will be.
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I think it has improved a lot since a couple of years. Before that, I used to swap my Samsung phones once or twice to get a decent one.
But the last 4 or 5 phones I bought, all with Samsung screens, were all perfect.
That includes Pixel 2 (not XL), Note 9, S8+, P20 Pro, etc....
Either I got extremely lucky to get as many perfect screens in a row, or they really improved things. Now I think it will happen to me again to have a bad one, but I'm not as nervous anymore. It's not a lottery anymore.
My Note 9 in particular is extremely impressive with a perfect screen. Perfect whites, no uniformity problem with any shades of grey at any brightness. Pure oled bliss.
BUT, I've had so many problems before that I'll ALWAYS be a little nervous before unboxing an oled screen smartphone. I've been burned too many times with crappy panels.
Let me tell you I was extremely nervous the day I bought my LG Oled 4K TV 55"..... Thousands of dollars thrown at an Oled panel lottery.... I was lucky this time again
Times are changing.
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
KastrO_on said:
Okay so I got another note 9 and has this issue too but in different spot. Also checked one more piece in samsung store...same.
So I think almost everyone has this uneven screen but maybe some of you have less sensitive eyes or just don't want to see this problem
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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So my question is, does this affect your use of the device? Is it causing wear and tear on you vision? Or is it just an OCD/OCPD effect?
To me personally, stuff like this is pointless to have an issue with even on a phone that costs $1000. Unless it's to the point where you can't use the device because you see the defect on everything.
To another comment I saw that included the word "Perfect," NOTHING is perfect, and there will never be such a thing that could be perfect because of our human definition of what perfection is. It's good to strive for Better, but it's pointless to strive for Perfection.
Btw, I did download the Pic and tested it on my Note 9 and my wife's Note 8, and the uniformity is affected on both devices. I also looked at the image on my 4K TVs and my LCD monitors and the effect is there. Are you sure the image itself is uniform?
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Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
Latoc said:
Perfect screens exist. I have some. I have perfect eyesight. I was a combat helicopter pilot in the french army. I know what to look for. If it is there I see it. If it is not, I don't. It's a fact. It's science. Not some voodoo magic wishful thinking.
I've had terrible screens. I've had some perfect. Nowadays I get more good ones than bad.
Bad ones still exist, but it my opinion that they are less and less common.
Against clear backgrounds you won't see much apart from a slight shift in color temperature.
Against dark grey at indoor brightness you can have incredible differences between some parts of the screen.
If you use a dark theme (not black), you will see it all the time.
Does it prevents you from using the phone ? No of course not.
Does it suck on a 1000 dollars phone ? Yes.
Some people are insensitive to that kind of thing. Good for them.
It's not an OCD. It's the will to have a good looking screen.
I like good looking women. I don't think it's an OCD. I know what I want, that's all. And I want the best. Nothing less.
If you want to settle with average, good for you.
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I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...???
Jammol said:
I literally stopped reading at "Perfect eyesight." And then I went back and read your reply...and I still stopped at perfect eyesight. I wish I was as perfect as you man. For real...??
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You do know that you have to have a perfect eyesight to be a combat pilot, do you ?
Acuity, color, contrast, night vision, side vision, field of view, and much more. Everything is tested BEFORE you're even allowed to go forward in the selection process.
Most people fail those tests. That's sad but that's life.
As a side note, you don't have to have perfect vision to see those screen problems.
They can be very obvious to anybody open minded enough.
Close minded people though, will always be impervious to such matter.
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You literally missed the most important part of my original post. That's why I stopped reading your post.
And yes I do know you have to have "Perfect" eyesight to join some military air forces.?
And I hope you aren't calling me closed minded. I never said someone has to have perfect eyesight to see the differences of the pixels in the image.
Anyways, I'm done with this. Quite pointless now.??