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Froyo Nookie: what works? What is problematic?

Been using this last few days and overall am quite impressed. It is pretty fast, has all that froyo goodness....Flash works though video is still slow and jerky
Have following issues:
YouTube- shows but videos don't play in app
Music- my mp3 which play on autonootered 2.1 don't work.
Statusbar shows no service cell reception icon and lockscreen says no service.
Wifi not always reconnecting from sleep without manually turning off/on.
Anyone else have any of these issues? Any fixes?
What are your pleasant surprises so far?

I think you need to look here.
And here.

BigBadger said:
I think you need to look here.
And here.
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Thanks, I guess. Red all the threads and am reporting my issues and seeing if they really unique to me as most I have mentioned are not discussed,....
mp3 the no service message on lockscreen.....

On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3

aludal said:
On YouTube, you may want to look at the "HQ" YouTube thread I started here and detailed a tidbit more in my blog (fineoils.blogspot.com).
Takes a careful deleting a stock youtube.apk.
If it won't work (me, I run simply Auto-Nootered and partially tweaked NC with stock A2.1, and HD YouTube is working just fine) then this is your "usability" at this stage.
You fail to mention Flash 10.1 in your list of problems with Nookie Froyo, does it mean you can watch HQ/HD Flash video already?
Don't get me wrong: the move to Froyo is a great development. But so far, it's more of a proof of a concept. For usability, it may take tons of tweaks and optimizations of Cyanogen class, plus backporting the best features and kernels of Android 2.3
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It is beyond proof of concept and 90% works as good or better than 2.1
Flash works. But seeing embedded flash video on some sites the video framerate is slow and jerky. Some sites play well. I suspect the 800 MHz processor and no hardware acceleration are the culprits and so OC to 950-1 ghz and hardware access might make it more useable.
So far I seem to ne the only one stating I can't get mp3 music playing so don't know if this is a known problem.

[Q] No videos playing on nook color

ok so i recently flashed phiremod v3,the latest cm7 nightly and hc v4 and none of them seem to support video... i cant watch videos on youtube (website not app) yahoo or anywhere. any suggestions? thanks.

did you install flash? I have phiremod v2 with flash installed (from market) and youtube website works fine for me.

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yeah i made sure i downloaded flash from the market but i keep getting an error message saying this video cannot be played...

At this time CM7, phiremod (based on CM7) and brianf21's customized nookie 0.6.8 do not support video natively. They hope to fix that in future releases.
Since video is important to me, and not everything I watch is flash, I went back to customized nookie 0.6.7 and installed dalingrin's latest kernel. I'll get occassional FC, especially if advance or go back in video (fixed by reboot), but at least video plays.

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ok thanks alot. i just wanted to make sure its not just something wrong with my device. im not so worried about the video as i still have my android phone, this is just a toy lol. but thanks again for the info.

Also HC doesn't have DSP either. Nookie 0.6.8 (DSP introduced in 0.6.7) worked when I tried but has a very small stutter like something occasionally running in the background. Went to Nook 1.1.0 rooted and can notice the small difference. A OC kernel might have fixed the problem but didn't try.

Is there a rom with smooth working flash and youtube?

With all the different roms and different versions I'm getting really confused and which roms can do what.
I've tried phiremod v2 and cm7 nightlies and the youtube app doesn't work at all in either. Youtube in the browser I couldn't get to work in phiremod v2. I can watch youtube if I change my user agent to desktop with cm7 nightly but it's choppy.
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?

This is not an answer to your question -
But if the widespread rumors are correct, then the B&N Stock NC will be updated to 2.2 with Flash by the end of the month, and then if you root that, you will be able to sideload Youtube App for Froyo to that. In fact, the update is supposed to include a B&N Market, and one would expect B&N to have all the Free Google Apps in their Market at startup. (But that's just speculation.)

Flash Player 10.2 working for me
I downloaded Flash Player 10.2 earlier today and it installed and works much better. I am running Phiremod 4.1. I got the APK from: freewarelovers(dot)com/android/app/adobe-flash-player
It's important to remember that Flash is an application framework that can deliver video among MANY other things. If you're looking for a FLV video player, then the performance still is not here: it requires hardware support and we don't have the drivers yet.
BUT, if you want to play games and use interactive websites written in Flash, then try out 10.2. It is WAY more functional.

Interesting. Are you saying that there are no roms with smooth playing flash video? It seems odd to me that everybody is so happy with these roms when they can't watch any flash video smoothly.

flammenwurfer said:
Can somebody enlighten me as to what I should be running if I want working and smooth flash videos?
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To specifically answer your question, smooth video is supported in Eclair (the native Nook rooted ROM) and, I think, it plays acceptably in Froyo; although I could be mistaken.
A lot depends on the size/quality of the video; standard definition (640x480) should play acceptably well in either of those OS versions. Higher definition may stall from time to time.
Gingerbread 2.3 (CM7, etc) still does not have working drivers for the hardware assist features of the chipset, and hardware assist is essential to smooth video playback.
Here are the specs on Nook Color CPU/GPU (from Androidtablets.net):
CPU Processor: ARM Cortex A8-based Ti OMAP 3621 @ 800 MHz (same processor as Droid 2 and Droid X)
GPU Processor: PowerVR SGX530 Graphics Rendering: Open GLES1.1/2.0 Hardware Scaling: 854x480 scaled to 1024x600 Video Formats: .3GP, .MP4, .3G2 ** Video Codecs: H.263, H.264, MPEG-4, ON2 VP7 ** Image Formats: JPEG, GIF, PNG, BMP ** (same GPU as Droid 2 and Droid X)​
As you can see, the GPU can support a native resolution of 854 x 480 (which is scaled in hardware to 1024 x 600); H.264/MPEG4 video (which FLV is a kind of) can be decoded in the hardware with the appropriate drivers. At present, all the players have to do this through software, which frankly is beyond the capability of the CPU at 800 MHz or even overclocked at 1.1 GHz.
We need to be patient; those hardware drivers will come.

Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?

flammenwurfer said:
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
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I am not sure whether the Froyo rom can play video smoothly. It does on Droid and other phones, so I would guess those drivers have been tried out. I had Froyo on my Nook Color for a while, but frankly can't remember how the video was.
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So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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It depends on what you need/want. For me, the text handling of Froyo was awful. I have a HTC EVO 4G (with Sense UI on top of native Froyo). On my phone, I can type pretty effectively. The user dictionary is fast and smart and if I make a mistake, I have an arrows-equipped keyboard to move the cursor to the text I want to correct and fix it.
Froyo (Android 2.2) on both my Nook Color and my Viewsonic G-Tablet were nothing like my Evo. The keyboard often got what I typed wrong and when I tried to set a cursor to make a correction, it would end up one letter off. I tried out a bunch of keyboards - some with arrows - and had an OK Froyo-based system, but as soon as a decent Gingerbread-based ROM came along (and Phiremod's is EXCELLENT!), I went with that.
In Gingerbread, you have a much more accurate keyboard and dictionary lookup. The keyboard still doesn't have arrows, but you have a very nice cursor positioning tool, plus the ability to select a little or a lot of text and copy/paste it anywhere throughout the system.
But, as you note, certain of the multimedia features aren't there yet. Since I use my tablets more as very handy computers and less as multimedia entertainment systems, the choice was pretty straightforward for me. I can wait a few weeks for video playback.
And, frankly, the reason a lot of people get excited about roms - and having lots of different roms - is because they are fun in and of themselves. They like to tinker. And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
But your mileage will certainly vary. If high definition is a deal breaker for you, you may find the Nook ultimately inadequate even when the Gingerbread drivers (and eventually Honeycomb drivers) come out. There's only so much power under this hood. A tablet based on Tegra 2 (like the Viewsonic G-Tablet or Xoom) may be more what you're looking for. With the right drivers, though, we should get perfectly acceptable 480p playback.
glg

The rom you are looking for is nookiefroyo. I have great YouTube playback in app including high quality. In browser 360p plays fine, but anything above that is choppy.
I also have tested other flash websites. CNN was perfect, as was megavideo.
I purchase my nook a few days ago and thus far nookie froyo looks to be the latest and most complete rom out. That plus the softkey theme I installed and the honeycomb keyboard makes this tablet a force to be reckoned with. I might even have to post a video soon because I'm so amazed atnhow well this thing runs.

I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.

Just a little notice, YouTube app doesn't use Flash for playback, it grabs MP4 version of a video stream, which is meant to play on mobile devices.

JLCollier2005 said:
I'm on CM7 Android 2.3.3 and am very happy. Not sure if it's the websites I've been on or what, but pretty much all non-HD flash works flawlessly for me. I've OCed my NookColor to 925mhz and have tried probably 5 or 6 different websites (including youtube and zomganime) Certain embeded flash players work better than others I"ve noticed, also, so not sure why that is, but so far I'm very happy. I even was running 3 flash videos (just to test it out) at once the other day, only one was choppy beyond watching. Oh I'd also like to note that it SEEMS to work better with Dolphin Browser, but that could again just be the website(s) I was on.
Sure not having a YouTube app kinda sucks, but the desktop website works fine.
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As in audio and video actually work smoothly (and are in sync)? What version of CM7 are you on?

I would like to know as well.
I'm on the latest CM7 Nightly and just installed the OC kernel. Youtube videos at 360p are playing ok now, but the audio is out of sync.
I might have to give Nookie Froyo another try. Interesting that the Youtube app works so well for you. I could have sworn that I would just get an error every time I tried to play anything.

flammenwurfer said:
Ok, I think I get it now.
So the stock rom is the only option at the moment for smooth youtube and flash, correct? The Froyo, Gingerbread and Honeycomb roms do not have hardware decoding support?
So why are so many people running these other roms if they are missing a major function like that? What does CM7 and the other roms do that the stock rooted rom can't? Market?
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Eclair does hardware video decoding but no flash. Froyo and cm7 both do flash and froyo has you tube and video harddware support. However froyo for me at least has buggy wifi and screen of death issues which made it non viable for me. Hope this helps.
From Nook Color dual boot with CM7

That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.

flammenwurfer said:
That does help. Thanks for the clarification.
I've heard good things about Nookie Froyoa so I will probably give that another try. I find it a little frustrating that there is not a single rom with everything working, but I know that's just the norm for hacking together roms. Oh well... Hopefully the update coming from B&N will help iron out the few issues that are left.
Honestly, most of my time will be spent reading, web browsing and playing a few games. I would just like to be able to pull up a funny video for friends every once in a while. I don't plan on watching movies or anything on it.
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Agreed I had thought froyo would be best compromise as it was fast had dsp and flash working, but the sleep of death and wifi connection issues led me to rebooting the thing many times/day which was a real pain.
For now I have a dual boot setup (see thread in development forum) So that I boot into eclair or CM7. This way I do most of my activities in or other rom and reboot into the other when I need say to watch a video or use stock B&N reader.....

Another thing I haven't really thought about. How does battery life compare between the roms? I seem to remember comments here and there about CM7 roms having worse battery life than froyo or stock.

I would suggest to those trying Nookie Froyo on eMMC now to try the kernel posted in post #770 of the Dalingrin kernel thread on the development forum. For myself and several others this kernel is solid and yields no wake or wifi issues whatsoever. Until a more stable interactive govenor kernel is developed this is the one I'll stick with.

glgehman said:
And with the Nook, if you have a few bucks to buy a couple of micro SD cards, you can have two or three swap-in brains that completely transform your tablet. And take them out and still have a factory fresh Nook reader. It's really kind of awesome when you think about it.
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Indeed. I'm a nooknoob but long time techie and am brimming with questions. Is that quote accurate -- that reverting to "factory fresh" state can be as simply as removing your SD card? (Because that's not the impression I've been getting; I thought you needed to do the 8 failed boots thing and/or reload ROMs.)

Hmm, guess not. I just noticed the thread titled "[HOW-TO] : Restore Nook Color back to stock EASILY".

I believe you can run most of the roms from the sd card without modifying the internal system. I don't know if you can do it without rooting though. You might have to root, then you an try roms on sd card. Someone else will have to confirm that or tell me I'm wrong , as I've not tried any of the sd card versions.

shadowgun issues

Has anyone else had problems running Shadowgin on the tablet with gtacomb 3.3?

i just tried it on C+C rom, it runs but has graphic glitches. some objects and path graphics are missing, but otherwise it plays fines

Yep running flashback 10 and it wont dl game data past 25%. Same is happening on alot of HC phones/tablets. My friend is running a froyo rom on his gtab and he said it runs great.

I tried it on Flashback HC rom and it wouldnt work, i then tried it with C+C and it flows smooth except that alot of the background images are not there. I wish someone knew a fix for this. So in other words, the game is playable with C+C but alot of the graphics are missing.

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I tried it on Flashback HC rom and it wouldnt work, i then tried it with C+C and it flows smooth except that alot of the background images are not there. I wish someone knew a fix for this. So in other words, the game is playable with C+C but alot of the graphics are missing.
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I abandoned flashback and went back to mountain laurel and shadowgun runs perfectly without any glitches or missing graphics. This game is amazing! Best tegra 2 game yet! Also runs normal on brilliant corners.

kieso said:
I abandoned flashback and went back to mountain laurel and shadowgun runs perfectly without any glitches or missing graphics. This game is amazing! Best tegra 2 game yet! Also runs normal on brilliant corners.
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Thanks for the info. i'll definetly try it on the mountain laurel rom.

Will not install past 25% on Gtabcomb 3.3. I think I've just about had it with the lack of a stable honeycomb rom on this tablet.

On Beasty and Clemsyn rom the game (version 1.0.2) can be installed without problems, but it's so f**king slow that there is no way to play to it.
I also think that some objects were missing, but I'm not sure because the gameplay was so slow that I couldn't even move around to confirm that.

Crashes on VEGAn 5.1.1
It installed fine and plays the cut scenes great but once the actual game starts and I start to move my player around and begin shooting my screen gets black for a few seconds and then the desktop appears without any of the icons/widgets on it and runs super sluggish until I reboot it. Sometimes it reboots itself but not always.
This 15 minute refund window sort of blows. Especially with games like this that you have to download additional content (250 MB for this one) that eats up that 15 minutes.
Tried it on CM7 and it crashed too. In fact, it didn't even get as far as when I ran it on VEGAn 5.1.1.

I was on gtabcomb 3.3, installation stopped after 25%, so downloaded sd data from external link but game always crashed upon loading after intro hd movie
then i tried tnt lite, game ws running fine but it had many glitches
then i installed mountain laurel, the game ran quite well and everything was perfect other than the fact that i cannot connect my external ps3 dualshock 3 to it
is there any way to connect it since the sixaxis controller app for gtablet is not able to connect my ds3 with gtablet, it was working fine with gtabcomb....

I tried it on Montain Lauren and I still have mising graphics. It sucks that even games developed for Tegra devices can' work well on our tablet.

titooo7 said:
I tried it on Montain Lauren and I still have mising graphics. It sucks that even games developed for Tegra devices can' work well on our tablet.
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That's what im running and I have no glitches or missing graphics. Im using the kernel that came with it. Did u put a different kernel on it? A couple times it ran choppy so I used the task manager and ended all tasks and then it ran smoothly.

im just gonna have to wait till someone updates my ROM.

Used Chainfire 3D with Plug-ins to make it work a bit
I have a gTab running VEGAn 5.1.1 and Shadowgun would crash/force-close/reboot my gTab as soon as gameplay would start. It would play fine for the cut scenes but as soon as the cut scene was finished and you were allowed to move your character around the game would quit.
I almost gave up on the game after I paid money for it but then read about this app in the Market called Chainfire 3D (there a free version and a paid version - the paid version is what I used to make this work). After I installed the free version first and then upgraded to the paid version and then installed the plug-ins (3 in all - I saved them to the root of my sdcard) and then went into the settings for it and selected Shadowgun in the list of Per-app OpenGL settings and unchecked the Use Default Settings and played around with the other settings to see if I could get this game to run. The ones I am using now are Reduce Texture Quality and Disable MapBuffer EMU.
After setting this up I was able to actually play a part of the first level without the game crashing. I've attached the plug-in files as they are a bit hard to find on the net (but you can find them via Google with a bit of luck).
Hopefully this helps some folks.
Update: here's a helpful link with instructions. http://brockhatfield.com/2011/11/01/tutorial-shadowgun-on-non-tegra/
Another Update: After messing with this for a while and actually trying to play through the first level I began to experience crashes and reboots again. So, I've sent the developers of both Chainfire 3D and Shadowgun and politely asked them for refunds. Hopefully they will agree.

I have no problems running it on mountain laurel but I know everyone has their own favorite rom. The only bad thing about chainfire is your losing out on some of the great HD & effects.

Success finally.
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I have no problems running it on mountain laurel but I know everyone has their own favorite rom. The only bad thing about chainfire is your losing out on some of the great HD & effects.
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After reading your post I decided to make the leap from 1.1 bootloader ROMs to the 1.2 bootloader version ROM you mentioned. It was a real pain due to the fact that each time I installed the VTL Launcher my gTab crashed and force closed like crazy and wouldn't let me even get to the home screen.
I had to hard boot it each time (I tried this three times just to make sure that was the problem) and had to NVFlash to the original 1.1 bootloader rooted ROM and then using ClockworkMod I had to flash the latest stock version 3588 TnT Rom. This gave me the stock restore option which I then used to flash the latest Mountain Laurel ROM from Roebeet.
With Mountain Laurel I am able to play Shadowgun without any of the aforementioned issues and I didn't have to use any third-party apps like the Chainfire 3D app I mentioned in my earlier post. It's not as fast as VEGAn 5.1.1 but I guess we can't have everything.
Anyway, my only issue now is not being able to use the VTL Launcher with this ROM. I've read the posts on that other site I won't mention but I haven't had any luck. Every time I install VTL Launcher and restart my gTab it goes into force close mode and becomes unusable. I read that the ADW Launcher has the same issue with this ROM.
Aside from that problem I like this ROM. It runs everything I ran on VEGAn 5.1.1 and then some (Shadowgun).
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titooo7 said:
I tried it on Montain Lauren and I still have mising graphics. It sucks that even games developed for Tegra devices can' work well on our tablet.
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Yeah, I love this tablet because it was one of the first out of the gate last year with the hardware that it comes with but I am with you on the frustration. Although I have to mention that I played the entire first level and I didn't notice any missing graphics. I am using the stock Mountain Laurel ROM without any custom CPU overclocking or modified kernels.
I already sold my other gTab and might finally decide to part with this one once I get a chance to play with the soon to be released Asus Transformer Prime with the quad-core chip.
Until then I still get plenty of use out of this one and I thank all of the modders, hackers, crackers, tweakers and coders that have put in all the effort and sharing the results they discovered and developed during the past year to make this tablet truly useful.

I´m new here, and i have a problem...
I have downloaded Shadowngun for my Sony Ericsson WT19i, and everything went well.
The main menu started up smotthly, and when I started a New Game for the first time, the intro showed. I watched the whole intro, and just when I was about to play, the game FORCE CLOSED for no reason! :<
Can ANYONE please help? I am dying to play it!

[Q] Lag Help

So I have an HTC Hero CDMA with Cyanogen Mod 7 rom in it. The rom improved my phone speed but I I have a few questions on how I cold fix the lag that occurs when playing high end games like Angry Birds or other games like that. Whenever I play a high end game, I experience lag, which makes it almost impossible to enjoy playing the game; so I'm wondering if anyone knows on how to fix the lag that occurs when playing a high end game.
Also is there a way to play HQ videos on youtube? I already downloaded the new youtube app when I flashed Cyanogen Mod 7 on my phone but when I try to play a HQ video, the video keeps playing the audio but not the video itself, so again, is there anyway to fix this?
I really appreciate all the help I can get, Thanks.

Sorry about the double post of the thread, ne to xda forums...

Your questions have already been answered before. Search the forum.

No and no. The Hero is old and those games are high end memory hog games. HQ on YouTube won't ever work.
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