As I'm reading about installing HC, Froyo or CM7 on eMMC, I'm curious about "saving" my current stock eclair rom in case I want to put it back...
If I make a CWM Recovery microSD, boot off that, do a backup... Can I just restore that if I want to get back to the way it is now? (assuming I just install something like Froyo to eMMC)
There are a few threads for stock recovery (check search). That will put it back like it was when you took it out if the box.
It's easier than trying to capture the partitions and data when someone else has already fine to all the trouble if doing it.
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Thank you, I understand there are a few threads over in the developer section on how to get back to "out of the box" type stock, and I have read them and they all talk about using the done by someone else "images" or "roms."
They don't seem to apply as I've setup eclair pretty much the way I want to... so I am not looking for how to get back to "stock like out of the box"... but rather to the eclair as I have it setup now.
i.e. if I want to got back to eclair, I don't want to have to reconfigure everything all over again.
KidJoe,
Yes, you can do the backup like that, save it on your PC or something and restore later when you need it. I did that before.
Slu3
slu3 said:
KidJoe,
Yes, you can do the backup like that, save it on your PC or something and restore later when you need it. I did that before.
Slu3
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Hi guys I just recently did the "How to Root Sprint 2.1 Release for CDMA Hero" in the developers area and I need help choosing rom. I mostly use my phone to surf the net/update my FB/ check my gmail/ download music from music junk etc. I want to be able to do everything I normally do on a normal 2.1 updated hero minus the usesless nascar apps/footprints etc. I want to be able to have live wallpaper and be able to tether as well as save apps to my SD card.
Can you guys suggest me at least 3 separate roms that will allow me to do this? Each one I click seems tempting and really considering giving them a shot. I hear everyone saying do a NANDROID backup what is that exactly? Where do I go to see how to do this? I definitely need help. I also want to know how can I go back to my stock 2.1 sprint rom if in the end I just don't end up liking any of these modified roms (doubt it). I will try and keep browing and reading. Thanks guys for helping me out.
Try them all. It's the only way.
But how it's my question I don't see tutorials...I just wanna make sure I don't f up my phone. i have insurance but still i'm cautious about it. I was thinking this one
ALOYSIUS 2.1
Crown510 said:
But how it's my question I don't see tutorials...I just wanna make sure I don't f up my phone. i have insurance but still i'm cautious about it. I was thinking this one
ALOYSIUS 2.1
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I used the 1.5 Versions of Aloysius, it was good. Haven't tried the 2.1 versions.
Crown510 said:
I want to be able to do everything I normally do on a normal 2.1 updated hero minus the usesless...apps...
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Question is, do you like Sense? If not, go for DarchDroid. (Unless you use MMS, then go for Ic3Rom). If you like sense, go for DamageControl.
Damagecontrol is a great Rom. Very stable and has built in UI program for disabling Sprint apps, launcher, live wallpaper or even sense all together. There's also apps2sd, JIT compiling, memkiller adjustments, dalvik to SD and swapping options. Just be cautious you don't change a setting without prior research to see what effects it will have on your system. I've been on DC for about a month now and can say this Rom is killer.
And as ALWAYS...do a nandroid backup before making any changes.
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To do a nandroid you will need a program that can flash a recovery image (allows you to boot up your phone without your OS). I have ROM Manager. But there are others. Once you have flashed a recovery image, backup your OS. This will do a complete backup of your device, so you can always restore where you previously were. I would also recommend making a copy of your backup to your computer HD for safe keeping. Android Police has a couple excellent tutorials on accomplishing this.
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Personally, I recommend Fresh. Simple, it's got everything you need, and it just seems to work better than DC on my device. DC had some issues with su and felt slow to me.
Hello,
I'm quite new to android and after reading around the forums for the captivate, I was wondering exactly which is better, SRE or the Unleash the Beast?
I come from HTC Fuze and I am really excited about the Captivate I just got. And like most new owners, I'm concerned about what exactly I am doing with phone. Please help me.
SRE all the way
SRE provides way more options. Sideloading enabled by default, overclocking, disabled GPS logging, mobile access point, usb tethering... definitely the way to go until BuglessPete ever comes back (if he does)
I've been reading up on the SRE thread and it seems I have to do a nandroid backup and titanium backup but doesn't those 2 require the phone to be rooted?
What exactly is sideloading? I've been trying to figure it out but all people said that it let non-market apps to be installed to the phone but how would I install the unit?
I like SRE.
Sideloading is exactly what you said it is. Instead of installing via the Market, you just transfer a .apk file to your phone, open it with a file manager and it will install.
Seems like the SRE is the popular choice to go, but do I have to do those backups like the nandroid and titamium back up before I do SRE even though I need to root?
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Seems like the SRE is the popular choice to go, but do I have to do those backups like the nandroid and titamium back up before I do SRE even though I need to root?
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It will root for you no worries.
I've used both and I prefer SRE, I ran UTB for a month and after all the bugs were out of SRE I flashed it and it is awsome. Then get Ryna's one click lag fix in the Market and install it, you'll get rid of the lag and it posts quad scores over 2400, stock is between 800-900.
You won't be able to use Nandroid or Titanium without Root.
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I like SRE.
Sideloading is exactly what you said it is. Instead of installing via the Market, you just transfer a .apk file to your phone, open it with a file manager and it will install.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine
This is the best choice for sideloading apps. Very simple to use and it does the work for you. No need for an ADB shell or any of that, easier on noobs like me.
First off, Thank you guys for your post. I decided as suggest to do the SRE. Am I suppose to notice any difference when I finish up the SRE?
Also, any recommendation of apps I should get now that my phone has freedom?
change form UTB to SRE
I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
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I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
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you really should read through as many (all) the pages of SRE as you can, but since I've been keeping up with it I'll help you out. According to DesignGears and several others, if you're running UTB you can just flash over it and it won't matter.
just put update.zip on your SD card, boot into recovery, reinstall packages
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I just received my Samsung Captivate and used UTB first, but am thinking I may want to try SRE, do I need to do anything before I run SRE, and can I just do this over UTB. I have not flashed any roms or anything like that. Thanks for your assistance.
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I would do all of your backups and then flash back to the stock ROM and apply SRE.
If I recall correctly, you are recommended to flash to stock, but I read in their forums you can just do it over the UTB. Here is a link to their thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
SRE all the way! I'm about to do mine!
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If I recall correctly, you are recommended to flash to stock, but I read in their forums you can just do it over the UTB. Here is a link to their thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=751934
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I flashed SRE over UTB and had no problems whatso ever..enjoy SRE its awesome being overclocked and stable @ 1.2GHz!
i flashed to SRE last night, coming from JM5 i9000 rom, this thing is smokin now.
I'm about to stay reading up on SRE, but can anyone tell me if this will affect any ota updates, I'm on jh3 now with UTB and that's about it. Also am I going to have to re-load anything after I flash this over Utb?
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I was forced into flashing to stock when I did something--still not sure what--to get a blank screen after boot, so I decided, what the hey, instead of just rooting, go with SuperRooter (which I assume is being called SRE now) and get lots of goodies with it. I'm a true believer, what with a truly open market, no more bloatware, ext4 file system, etc.
I didn't do Nandroid or Titanium Backup...didn't know how at the time. But since I had been using AppBrain, reinstalling all my apps took longer than it would have using Titanium and I lost my app settings, but it wasn't anything to cry about. So if you're not using Titanium yet then I'd recommend you go to AppBrain, sign up, download the app, and run it before going this route.
It worked just fine for me. If there's a problem, just get Odin and a ROM to reflash the phone (instructions are available all over the place on how to do this, particularly at the top of this very forum). It seems to take a lot to brick your phone, so don't be scared to jump in. Learning new stuff is fun! Just keep a cool head if you blow it...you can most likely fix it in pretty short order.
I've been trying to read as much as I could about loading custom roms, but I haven't found a guide that explains everything. I've gone through all the stickies but I haven't gotten a clear idea of flashing roms.
In the past, I've rooted my captivate and then downloaded the Titanium backup manager. But after wanting to go back to stock, my phone completely died using Odin to go back to JF6 and then doing an OTA update.
So before experimenting with my phone again, I want to be sure I know exactly what I'm doing. So is there a detailed guide on about using custom roms? Such as, what exactly is the update.zip file? When should I create a copy of it? What is Clockwork? If I want to revert back to stock, how do you go back to JH7 instead of JF6?
Not really, not for the level of detail you are looking for.
I'd recommend trying before you know everything . Just make sure make sure you have download mode working via the 3 button combo
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Update.zip is what android automatically uses in recovery mode - clockwork is an update.zip that leads you into a super cool recovery mode that lets u do more.
U don't really need to mess with it.
Just install ROM manager and it will handle it
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Thanks!! If you flash one ROM and want to switch to another, do you have to use odin to go back to stock? Or can you use a rom manager to flash a different one on?
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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Most of the time you can do it on top, but its considered a safe measure to go back to stock. Also make sure you disable lagfix if you have one or else it will screw everything up.
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If you are going back to stock, disabling lagfix isn't necessary. Everything is completely overwritten. It's only necessary if you don't go back to stock and just upgrade instead.
I'm interested in this too - First Android device and being on a tiny bit of a learning curve...
Reading through the forums here, I see the popular safety first consensus seems to be Odin back to stock, then root/ROM Manager and on with the next ROM. Fair enough, I have no problem with that, but I'd like to know the reasoning?
So lets say I try to go from my current Cog 2.1.6 (voodoo disabled) to the latest Cognition 2.4.1 beta (or any other ROM) via ROM Manager. What disasters "will" befall me? What disasters "might" befall me? Why?
You may or may not get frequent crashes if you do not flash to stock first.
Just make sure you can get into download mode. Everything else will work out
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Hey guys, new here but I have been lurking for a while.
On Androidforums I have a longer thread detailing what I did, if you want details pm me, I can't post a link yet as I am a noob on this forum.
To make a long story short:
1. I had stock eclair, then rooted with "ryans oclf" and used the lagfix.
2. I decided to try a version of cognition (unhelpfuls kernal). So I backed up my current "rom" using rom managers (which was the stock kernal).
3. Realized that I didn't back anything up so I tried to revert to my backup.
4. relized that I didn't undo the lag fix, and because of this my stock eclair wouldn't restore via rom manger's update.zip file
5. was forced to get cognition running again
6. extraded the files from the .img nandroid bacups from my stock eclair (which is a PITA since the .img files aren't regular mountable .img files - took about an hour of searching)
7. Found the sql databases to restore my text messages and contacts from my stock eclair to this new cognition.
NOW, after a long intro, my question:
The .img files I extracted contained a file named linux.ex2. I assume that this file is where ryans oclf must have been storing the stuff that is causing the restore to fail (it actually completes, but never boots)
Is there any way I can manually repair this nandroid backup? I would like to so that I have a nandroid backup of my stock eclair rom.
BTW, I am pretty good at this kind of thing, but I am not a computer programmer.
I don't have a lot of background info directly related to andorid phones but I am learning quick. I am a Senior in electrical and computer engineering so I do have a light background in programming. luckily I knew enough about sql and command prompts and such to get as far as I did with recovering my contacts/text messages.
If what I want to do is possible I would love to give it a shot. Any help/tips/ideas from you guys would be awesome!
Thanks
-Chad
To me it sounds like your screwed. You did a double bummer.. (backup with LF on, restore a backup with LF ON on your already LF ON rom).
Will see if any other more experienced with backup can help you out, but my answer to you is to go stock and redo sorry.
yeah, well I am willing to try a few different things. I forgot to mention that right before I installed cognition the first time, I did remove the lag fix, I just undid the lagfix before I made the backup.
I have been using cognition for about a week now. I don't really mind it as it seems to work just fine, as It is in fact faster.
Last night after posting my post here I removed the voodoo lag fix and then I made a backup of my current installation of cognition.... So if I have any issues trying to do this I at least have a working/functioning cognition rom.
BTW: I have an unrelated question that is slightly related. If I have to use the odin one click restore at some point, does it clear my internal sd card as well? I see that it says it will clear user data, but doesn't specifically make a clear separation of the internal SD card on the captivate and the 2 gb they setup for the android partition.
A far faster method would be to Odin back to stock, root, then take a nandroid backup right away, then flash back to what ever rom you want. Time consuming, yes, but faster and easier than trying to mod a backup.
OK, when I first started into this stuff, I tried to follow all the guidance that has been given before flashing my first ROM. I did a ROM Manager backup of my ROM the way I got it from AT&T. I did not write down my ID # or anything else. I'm assuming the backup has all the information that came with it. My question is how to re-load that original ROM. I've flashed quite a few ROMs now using the Odin one-click to go back to stock and Master Clear and never had a problem. I'm running P9 right now (w/ no problems) and decided to try something else. After seeing some of the threads on here about your original phone IDs, I wanted to try and recover that info by restoring the original backup. I did that straight from P9, but now I just get locked up on the DG boot screens. I'm going to One Click it again but I'm wondering how I can restore back to my original with the backup that I have. Any guidance would be appreciated.
Thanks
My apolopies if this is already posted somewhere but I can't find it
Your can not restore a 2.1 backup when on a 2.2 rom, if I understand you correctly. In fact I would only restore a backup if you are on the same rom as the backup, and even then you should disable the lag fix prior to restoring
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Not to sure, I tried going to original with nandroid backup after flashing another rom and soft bricked. I actually got stuck at the AT&T screen which on Perc 9 (that what I was running) was the designgears boot screen. Odin 3 one click saved my sanity. if you can go 2.2 to 2.1 I don't know, but I'm not going to try it again. I just one clicked, master cleared, rooted, flashed Axura 2.5 and have been happy ever since. This was my fault, not Perc 9's, let me say that real clear.
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Thanks. I did have to One Click restore to stock, Master Clear, and then restored my original backup. Now I gotta figure out what information I need off of it before I flash a new ROM. Probably a waste of time since I can't imagine going back to AT&T for anything, but thought I would get it since I was waiting to change to P10 soon.
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Thanks. I did have to One Click restore to stock, Master Clear, and then restored my original backup. Now I gotta figure out what information I need off of it before I flash a new ROM. Probably a waste of time since I can't imagine going back to AT&T for anything, but thought I would get it since I was waiting to change to P10 soon.
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Um.. what information did you want off of it? If you just want your Android ID - there is an app for it on the Market (strangely enough called Android ID) You can then write it down and re-enter it at any time after flashing.