Database Develop

Missed Calls

Hi,
I have a Dopod 595. I cannot make calls whenever the phone is synchronizing or downloading email (Push Mail) or even when I have IE running loading pages. I am on Maxis 3G network. The phone has the ‘U’ sign. I thought if I am on 3G network, I can still make calls or receive calls when the data line is being used? Currently, if data is being downloaded, incoming calls will become miss calls automatically. At least when I am on EDGE or GPRS, it will disconnect the data line.
Why is this so? Please enlightened me.

Missed calls when browsing internet on TyTN.

Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?

Jens- said:
Some months ago I bought me a TyTN II. Love the device, but not without the possibility to go online. So I also bought a Mobile data subscription.
Here in Belgium it's with the the provider base, en they only offer 2G, Edge.
I use it for browsing the internet, blogging en I check some mailboxes.
All good and well but ever since, I have more missed calls than calls that come trough.
People immediatly get my voicemail. And since I use the phone for my business it 's kinda important that I receive most of the calls.
So I called my provider to complain, and they said it's my phone's fault. By default an incoming call is more important than data so the data should be interrupted to let the incoming call get through.
Are there people with the same problem here? Solutions maybe?
Or is my provider wrong and should I complain some more?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the tytn2 with t-mobile in the states and have the same issue. With no 3g incoming calls take a backseat to web browsing. If pages are already loaded then you get the call if data is in working mode (loading stuff) then the call goes to vm. With 3g it's a non-issue. But no 3g for t-mo here yet.

I can't say that I have the same problem. I haven't had any voicemails pop up without a call indicator. I am on AT&T and I too am in an EDGE network region.

I have noticed same problem with TyTn II on Orange, not found a fix yet!
MM

It is definitely a 2g/3g issue - 2g data transmission is not compatible with simultaneous voice while 3g is. I can easily duplicate this behavior by using commmgrpro to change the data band, open IE and call the cel simultaneously. This is not a phone issue to the best of my knowledge - no phones are capable of 2g/voice together, although some might do a better job of "prioritizing" a call over a data session.
RK

That is absolutely correct. Once in a 2G network only, you cannot use Voice and data at the same time. This is one of the main advantages of the 3G, where you can browse and get voice at the same time.
And there is no way around it. Either Voice, or data. Sorry.

I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?

ajmoncrief said:
I think he's getting at why can't he pick which one should be most important. For example, I have push email running...and this obviously requires a constant data connection...why is it that push email automagically picks up the fact that a phone call is coming in and allows itself to be prioritized whereas internet explorer does not?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Push email means you're constantly connected but it does not mean your phone is constantly transmitting/receiving data. It's only receiving data when you actually receive an email. So I doubt Push Email has any different priority settings.

it's operator phone equipment depended only
non of my 2g phones ever had call's sms's mms's blocked by grps

Incoming call while on internet

I was wondering is there a setting on the TyTN II that I can set to make calls my first priority. When I'm using the internet on my phone, no calls can come through. My service provider said the calls should come through while going onto and said it's probably something I set on my phone that isn't letting the calls get through.
So.. is there a setting I can set to be able to receive calls while using the internet? By the way I'm using EDGE network, not 3G

i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet

XtreMe_G said:
i believe you have to be using 3g to be able to receive incoming calls while using the internet
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
hmm.. I thought so, but the representative said the calls should come through, so I was just asking to see if it really is possible.

Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.

Nghiem said:
Surf the internet on EGDE mode. Dissable 3G then you will be fine. That's another side (dark or bright, you grade it) of 3G beside of drainning battery.
FYI, you can place a call while surfing internet on 3G mode.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.

I have a similar question.
Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?

CorruptedSanity said:
Can one use wifi internet while on the phone?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yup, you can

Actually I got a question that's somewhat related.. Calls do come through when I use 3G/HSDPA connection.. however, if I pick up - connection terminates... isn't HSDPA supposed to let you talk and use internet at the same time?

when im using gprs i can reeive calls but it kicks off my gprs connection - very annoying - so i guess this isnt a fully fledged device capable of both at the same time - there are three types right, 1 2 and 3?

if your phone is locked to wcdma in the network settings then yes, you can browse the internet and recieve pictures,.
I have found that when the phone is set to Auto selection, it always drops back to gsm to carry the phone calls (maybe this is network dependent), which while on gsm calls, the data connection is suspended.
Not all ROMS offer this functionality, I can confirm the the original HTC ROM for the kaiser does!

One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.

DVS_WiNdz said:
I know I'll be able to make calls through 3G while surfing the net. But T-mobile USA currently only has the EDGE network. So I was wondering is there anyway to make calls able to get through while I'm surfing the net. Because a lot of people has been complaining that they can get a hold on me.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.

lcohen999 said:
Since no one is answering your question directly the answer is no.
If you are on the net, edge will send you to voicemail. The only way around it would be to roam on AT&T in 3G.
Edge was never really "designed" for what we are doing now with phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
okay. thanks

mbritten said:
One thing you can do, and I know its kind of a round about way, but.... I use callwave.com for my voicemail, and have messages and missed call notifications send to my phone via email. With direct push set up. Now if I and downloading something or loading a web page and a call comes in, it goes to voicemail immediately and even if the caller just hangs up without leaving a message I will get the notification while online. Also if they DO leave a message I get a email with the content of the voicemail roughly typed out so I can see what the call is about and who called without ever having to disconnect the internet unless I need to call them back.
I know this isn't really what you are talking about, but its better then not even getting a missed call notification because you are online, or not getting voicemails until you disconnect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm already using callwave, but the thing is that my emails aren't coming through to my phone sometimes, push email doesn't work at all.

i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up

mbritten said:
i use mail2web for my exchange email, i did have a problem for a bit while i was using wap.cingular, i am on at&t and i have pda connect unlimited (lowered to $30 per month now BTW, you have to call to get the lower price) and i switched to isp.cingular and have no problems anymore, emails come in about 5 sec after the caller hangs up
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But AT&T has their 3G network, I'm using t-mobile which doesn't

Aren't phone calls supposed to interrupt Edge?

I know I can not recieve Data while on a phone call with Edge. But shouldn't an incoming call interrupt an Edge connection?
I have a stock AT&T Tilt rom (latest WM 6.0 not 6.1) I have KaiserTweak with most settings in it set to advised. Is there anything in KaiserTweak that will cause this to happen?
I am trying to run IM+ on the phone and when it is online and connected all calls go straight to voicemail. Also when I tether and a phone call comes in it goes straight to voicemail and doesn't ring my phone. I WANT it to interrupt my Data service so I can get the phone call. (it is a phone after all)

This seems to be more of a function of the specific phone rather than the phone network. For instance, if you call a 1st gen iphone (2g/edge) while it is on an active data connection, it will disconnect the data session and the phone will ring. However, the same is not true of a Kaiser/Tilt.
My best guess is that phones w/ 3g pay less attention to edge performance and features because 3g can coexist simultaneously with a phone call.
RK

On the tilt, when you're connected to EDGE, calls will interrupt the connection IF it is idle and no data is being transferred. If data is being transmitted then the call is rejected. I've never seen anything about changing that behavior.

2.5G vs 3G
First of all excuse me for my English.
I know that EDGE is an evolution of GPRS, commonly knowed as 2nd generation. For this reason is called 2.5 generation. In GPRS and EDGE, data connection is stopped during a voice call. EDGE inherit the behaviuor of GPRS. Only 3g standards like UMTS HSDPA or HSUPA allows data connection during a voice call.
Ciao, from Italy
Francesco

It turns out that if you have the "Disconnect After" setting enabled in KaiserTweak phone calls will not stop Edge. If I turn this off then I receive calls while on an Edge connection. Seems kinda silly to me. Now I have to pretty much have data on at all times. Goodbye battery life.

Missing Calls While on a Call in 3G (No notification)

I occasionally seem to be missing calls while I'm already in a call. I live in a 3g area, and have had this issue occur on multiple occasions (with confirmed 3g reception). I only found out that I had missed the call, when the person calling just happened to leave a voice mail. Other than the voice mail, there was no indication of the call I had missed. There are times that I receive the incoming call (notification) just fine, however. Any clue as to why this function isn't working reliably?

Might just be your SIM. Try replacing it. Make sure you also have full call waiting services to your mobile.

Which ROM and Radio are you using? Someone with knowledge of either or both may be able to provide some help.