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Im makin swap in Paragon but, its only letting me put 33.1mb not 32 is that fine or will it make JAC Unstable???
watchyaself said:
Im going to install JAChero
Im gonna make a linux swap and a ext 3 from paragon partition manager
my question is how big do i make linux swap
And is it safe to make etx3 for apps from this program
And if i cant do i make a ext 2 then update it to ext3 with terminal
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32MB is a good size. Larger, and you'll get instability. Yes, it is safe to make your ext3 with Paragon. And yeah, you can upgrade an ext2 to ext3 using Cyanogen's Recovery Image if you don't make it ext3 in Paragon.
yo thanxs bro
ill see what happens
well im trying to do it with paragon
and its only letting me put in 33.1mb will it
make it unstable????
watchyaself said:
well im trying to do it with paragon
and its only letting me put in 33.1mb will it
make it unstable????
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That's fine.. It doesn't need to be precise.
hey saiboogu
i just flashed hero but it looping at the screen with the little android guy
what did i do wrong how do i fix???
Saiboogu said:
That's fine.. It doesn't need to be precise.
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I was told 32 could be to small and you might need as high as 92...... whenever i did 32 it still was laggy .
talltexan said:
I was told 32 could be to small and you might need as high as 92...... whenever i did 32 it still was laggy .
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I've heard a random report or two of people using big swaps, but general experience (personal, plus other users chiming in here) is that as the swap gets bigger, the stability goes down. The system may be fast in the beginning, but as junk collects in your swap it will get laggy.
Honestly, I'm still on 24MB.. Left 32MB of space but only started with 24MB, and it runs fine for me. Keeps my browser in memory when I go reply to a text, that's what I worry about.
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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hero rom is much bigger then the normal G1 rom that is why you are seeing the lag. What is the size of your linux swap and what is your swappiness set to?
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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sorry to say this, but if your asking if you need linux-swap you obviously didn't read the instructions
ccyrowski said:
sorry to say this, but if your asking if you need linux-swap you obviously didn't read the instructions
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devs and testers need a new forum imo...
springah said:
devs and testers need a new forum imo...
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no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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well the little room after flash is probably due to the sdcard NOT setup right... I had that build before and the before and so on and the space I had every time was 84mb free after boot and YES the appstosd on this build is automatic. The sdcard should have the fat32 partition first and then the ext2 partition 2nd. To setup the partitions I would NOT use ubuntu .. I ran into mounting issues with gparted .. I have had NO issues with the sdsplit found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3582509&postcount=52
set the 2 partitions first and then setup the linux-swap partition using ubuntu .. I had mine inbetween the fat32 and the ext2 .. and YES you NEED the swap partition in the 2.7.4 build as it no longer uses swapper.
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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How about we take the "New Thread" privileges away from everyone except for developers or new developers who request the mods give them privilege to open a new thread?
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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Goodbye to 80% of the members then lol. just keeding. I think people just need to learn how to read the first post of each thread they read. I recommend setting min/max cpu freq to 528, and having linux-swap of 32MB at 20 swappiness. @ demoyo, make sure you have your partitions at the least in this order:
FAT32/EXT3
or if you want a linux-swap:
FAT32/EXT3 (1.5GB or less) /Linux-Swap (32 to 64MB)
The 20MB free internal memory is signaling that your apps to sd isn't working properly, which probably mean you didn't partition your sdcard correctly.
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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I should be a mod, I'd close and move this dumb stuff like crazy
thankx guys i am a noob
i really appreciate all the help guys, and yes i believe i didnt do the partion right all i want to do is help the rom not be so laggy, im usung win xp to do all this, but one more thing, my rom doesnt have the swappiness app built in like ive seen in others peoples vids how do i get it
Demoyo23 said:
i really appreciate all the help guys, and yes i believe i didnt do the partion right all i want to do is help the rom not be so laggy, im usung win xp to do all this, but one more thing, my rom doesnt have the swappiness app built in like ive seen in others peoples vids how do i get it
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You don't use the Swapper app anymore. As long as you have a linux-swap partition done correctly it is automatic. You can however change the swappiness settings in /system/bin/a2sd (it is the number in echo 30 > ...)
ok so im a noob, even with the dummie walkthroughs and all, i still quite dont understand swapping, so i have a 1gb memory card already in the phone formated to fat32, i have hero rom jachero 2.7.4, and u said linux is already in it and i dont need swap, can u pleasae tell me how to do swapper with a tutorial for dummies for bigger dummies lmao, i need help dont understand lol i would love you people forever and stop buggin u
Hang in there I am the same way learning all the new ropes and I myself dont understand the swap settings eaither
Demoyo23 said:
ok so im a noob, even with the dummie walkthroughs and all, i still quite dont understand swapping, so i have a 1gb memory card already in the phone formated to fat32, i have hero rom jachero 2.7.4, and u said linux is already in it and i dont need swap, can u pleasae tell me how to do swapper with a tutorial for dummies for bigger dummies lmao, i need help dont understand lol i would love you people forever and stop buggin u
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Ideally you need an ext and linux-swap partitions, but if you don't want to for whatever reason you can just install the "Swapper" app from the market. A linux-swap partition is much better but this is the next best thing.
AdrianK said:
Ideally you need an ext and linux-swap partitions, but if you don't want to for whatever reason you can just install the "Swapper" app from the market. A linux-swap partition is much better but this is the next best thing.
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Well said. ANother note is that if you are using the stock 1gb card then you will not notice much speed improvement no matter what you do because of having such a slow SD card. I would not recommend and thing less than a class 4 (Class 6 is the fastest).
If you plan on staying with the stock card you should probably look into another ROM.
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Can you change the swap size and the other while in an ROM or do you need to do it in the recovery console and then reflash your ROM?
** Just changed all my setting for swap of 96 MB. ITS SO SUPER FAST ITS UNBELIVEABLE!!!!
I don't think you need to reflash if you can replace the swap partition without affecting the others.
What I mean is I left free space on the end of my SD card so I could experiment with different swap sizes. I've been using 40 on Drizzy Personal V3 but I'm going to try 96 now and see if I notice a difference.
Thank you so much. I gave up on the Hero roms after 1 day due to the lag. Now I am running a 96 mb swap and couldn't be happier!
You should add how to create a swap partition and also how to use Compcache as it could be very helpful. Other than that this looks pretty helpful. I also dont see the need for linux swap in any CM mod since they are very stable and are very smooth. It is an option, but i dont think its at all necessary...
EDIT: Also add how to change swapiness manualy . That would be very helpful...
wow... yha, so like um... well its totaly... like ...you know... ok..? ok
that was like trying to folow a bad paulie shore movie... ( like there were good ones)
+1 for write up on how to set-up and run swap (preferrably for dummies and n00bs)
i updated the thread with how to partition your sd whatever
but
im working on the command for terminal to set swappiness
because i used adb to push a user.conf
learned it~many thanks~and howabout 128M?and how much perfect swapiness value for 96m is?
Ayerwin said:
learned it~many thanks~and howabout 128M?and how much perfect swapiness value for 96m is?
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128 is not good
i really didnt like its overall performamnce
oh and for 96 i use 60 for swappiness
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i get the swapper some one asked if you could just change the file size with out reformating ill prolly reformat just to make a clean hero build the other ? is when you set 96 what do u mean by 60 isnt the whole 96 being used?
frost785 said:
i get the swapper some one asked if you could just change the file size with out reformating ill prolly reformat just to make a clean hero build the other ? is when you set 96 what do u mean by 60 isnt the whole 96 being used?
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Well if you you instsll any build the settings on that build are default "i think"
32 swapiness or 20 cant remember and what want to do is set it to 60 so it wont lag and is faster
cuz if you leave it on 32/96 it gets laggy but with 60/96 its the "sweet spot"
jf4888 said:
128 is not good
i really didnt like its overall performamnce
oh and for 96 i use 60 for swappiness
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thx sir,i'll try it with v4hero this weekend hah
more ?
ok then i must not get it i know how to change the partition format thats basic but how do i change the swappiness i know they have a program on the market but that doest do it befor start up after is this. sh /system/bin/swap -s i know this is the comand but not sure where to enter it and does it auto give me my default swapness thanks for your help ill keep reading
thanks jf4888, your tutorial helped me more the the other ones.
force closes
I get plenty of force closes with CM's 4.01. I have compcache. My brother did the linux-swap and said it's been so much better. Some people say CM's rom doesn't need swap??? That boggles my mind. I love his roms and get less force closes than JF, but it's far from perfect when force closes are involved.
you might want to include how to update your ext3 to ext4 for those that so desire it. other than that, great guide.
frost785 said:
ok then i must not get it i know how to change the partition format thats basic but how do i change the swappiness i know they have a program on the market but that doest do it befor start up after is this. sh /system/bin/swap -s i know this is the comand but not sure where to enter it and does it auto give me my default swapness thanks for your help ill keep reading
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i put up the command to set swap through terminal it should work considering i tried it myself
usernam3 said:
thanks jf4888, your tutorial helped me more the the other ones.
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Here welcome
Oh and for now on start directing people to
The ultimate newb thread
Its a wip(work in progress)
And we hope for it to become a sticky so others
When they have a problem with anything
And I mean anything can go there and have any question answered
install swap partition without formatting whole sd?
Thanks for the great guide. Noob here I already formtted my sd card and have apps2sd etc but would like to create a swap partition (running cyonogen 4.0.1 with ext2, ext3)
Is there a way to create a swap partition without having to format the whole sd and recreating ext2 and 3?
Hallo everyone,I am stuck in a problem for a long time,As you know,X1'ROM is 512 MB,but my device storage space is always about 200 MB though my rom file is usually smaller than 100MB,I thought it should be about 512-100≈400 MB or some Left,I wonder Where does the missing 400-200=200MB space go?and need a way can solve this,THX
Finally I get the reason,Because i use OSBuilder to create Imgfs.bin,and now I use ImgfsFromDump,It is OK now,thanks all the same!
Hmm, I think device memory is slip into 2 sections... 1 is Storage, 1 is Program... Maybe i wrong, but if u should check that in ur X1, Settings---> SD card and Phone Storage.
U will see that there are 2 section for all, Device and SD card, and Device has 2 sections that are Total storage and Total Program.
Hope u understand my English, I'm learning Eng now, so i still practice it
It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
Shady313 said:
It depends on rom what you are using. The rom file (nbh) is compress so the decompressed size is about 2 times larger. And people usually use the cutomization what starts after rom update. It also uses some space. Just do a hard reset and see how much space is used.
So yes the 200MB is believable.
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thanks for your relpy , And Maybe I did'nt describe it well , I mean when I cooked a rom that is 100 MB then they storage space is 200MB , When rom is 80 MB ,the storage is still 200MB , even 60 MB, no space increase or decrease when rom is smaller or bigger,that's the problem
Hello Everyone
I rooted and already have my phone the way I want it but I've noticed that when you do the full wipe
theres like 7 gigs of space missing. I was wondering if anyone was able to at least get most of their space back when they wipe the phone
if so how can i do it?
I currently running the Rage Rom thinking of going back to Ecliptic ONE
and i have TWRP recovery
any ideas will be appretiated thanks
Have you made any backups?
g00s3y said:
Have you made any backups?
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I made a back up but i deleted it unless theres another back up am missing somewhere?
how much space you supposed to have after the full wipe?
I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
sauprankul said:
I recently did a full wipe and it was like 6.x gigs right off the bat. It boggles the mind, considering there are phones out there that have only that much total capacity.
Wtf htc.
Does anyone know how much space AOSP roms take? I'm switching once the installer comes out.
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AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
https://vzwsupport.jive-mobile.com/#jive-discussion?content=/api/core/v2/discussions/804286
It's only 25 GB available left. :-[
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phatmanxxl said:
AOSP ROMs are typically around 120-150 Megs zipped, sense ROM go.from 700 to a little over 900 MB's zipped.
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Right, but I'm asking for how much CM takes after installation and clean wipe. I'm not sure how compression works, so this may be wrong, but if I set up a proportion (I'm almost sure you can't do that), CM comes to 1.5 gigs installed (205meg for 10.2 zipped), which seems more reasonable.
It really sucks that I have to keep clearing out stuff because I start with only like 25 gigs of space rather than 31.5.
Can somebody who has 10.2 installed comment?
if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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if its off a fresh boot, it's because of all the apps that prolly installed to the internal sd got erased, thats why you had more space, and still have your files and stuff
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I (tried to) delete ALL data from my phone and it was still 7 gigs.
Got this explanation from another site.
The 32GB are in 1000Byte = 1KB Logic, and the 25GB should be in Binary Logic, so 1024Byte = 1KB. which gives at first a "loss" of about 2GB: 32GB = 29,8023GiB
the rest of the space is mostly the android system, reserved space for cache etc... one small part will be the journal of the ext file sytstem which is used instead of yaffs. So arround 200-400MB i think will be covered by the ext journal.
you have the same problem with harddisks too. The firms write it in decimal logic but the operating system does it in binary. Some Operating Systems nowadays also write the correct GiB or MiB or KiB but not all...[\quote]
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use a file explorer and go back as far as you can. Check /data/media. if you've ever flashed a 4.2 rom it moves all your files around and it gets confusing.
If that doesn't find it, download Diskusage. it could help you out.