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how do you do partition your sdcard to ext3 and linux-swap without adb?
i have a class 4 8gb sdcard
Go to link in my sig.
supremeteam256 said:
Go to link in my sig.
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i dont have ubuntu im running on windows and browser is not letting me open up the link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479&highlight=Hard+SPL
scroll down to Formatting SD Card... 1st post
AndroidFiend said:
i dont have ubuntu im running on windows and browser is not letting me open up the link
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535914
Try this link, if it doesn't work go to the development section and it's on the second page. I run windows to, but I explain how to do everything on ubuntu with out installing anything. It's a live cd so you just boot it, it don't install anything and when you done it goes back to windows. Its easy.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=534479&highlight=Hard+SPL
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oo thats on the recovery image...didnt know that now i jus have to figure out all the size i want for part. and wut is the best size for linux swap from what ive seen 96mb its good bcuz it matches up to the actual hero memory
AndroidFiend said:
oo thats on the recovery image...didnt know that now i jus have to figure out all the size i want for part. and wut is the best size for linux swap from what ive seen 96mb its good bcuz it matches up to the actual hero memory
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Really you should have the linux-swap extension at 32 meg. Anything more can cause lag.
supremeteam256 said:
Really you should have the linux-swap extension at 32 meg. Anything more can cause lag.
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ok if you say so
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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hero rom is much bigger then the normal G1 rom that is why you are seeing the lag. What is the size of your linux swap and what is your swappiness set to?
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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sorry to say this, but if your asking if you need linux-swap you obviously didn't read the instructions
ccyrowski said:
sorry to say this, but if your asking if you need linux-swap you obviously didn't read the instructions
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devs and testers need a new forum imo...
springah said:
devs and testers need a new forum imo...
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no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
Demoyo23 said:
I followed the exact steps from this forum and everything went smooth, but why is it that i only have 20 mb of free phone memory left after doing a new hero rom flash using jachero 2.7.4, is the apps automatically save to sd, cause if they are i dont think they are saving to the sd card, also do i have to do a linux swap or something like that to make this phone run faster, please help me people.
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well the little room after flash is probably due to the sdcard NOT setup right... I had that build before and the before and so on and the space I had every time was 84mb free after boot and YES the appstosd on this build is automatic. The sdcard should have the fat32 partition first and then the ext2 partition 2nd. To setup the partitions I would NOT use ubuntu .. I ran into mounting issues with gparted .. I have had NO issues with the sdsplit found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3582509&postcount=52
set the 2 partitions first and then setup the linux-swap partition using ubuntu .. I had mine inbetween the fat32 and the ext2 .. and YES you NEED the swap partition in the 2.7.4 build as it no longer uses swapper.
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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How about we take the "New Thread" privileges away from everyone except for developers or new developers who request the mods give them privilege to open a new thread?
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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Goodbye to 80% of the members then lol. just keeding. I think people just need to learn how to read the first post of each thread they read. I recommend setting min/max cpu freq to 528, and having linux-swap of 32MB at 20 swappiness. @ demoyo, make sure you have your partitions at the least in this order:
FAT32/EXT3
or if you want a linux-swap:
FAT32/EXT3 (1.5GB or less) /Linux-Swap (32 to 64MB)
The 20MB free internal memory is signaling that your apps to sd isn't working properly, which probably mean you didn't partition your sdcard correctly.
Drizzy Drake Rogers said:
no we dont we just need to remove all noobs!
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I should be a mod, I'd close and move this dumb stuff like crazy
thankx guys i am a noob
i really appreciate all the help guys, and yes i believe i didnt do the partion right all i want to do is help the rom not be so laggy, im usung win xp to do all this, but one more thing, my rom doesnt have the swappiness app built in like ive seen in others peoples vids how do i get it
Demoyo23 said:
i really appreciate all the help guys, and yes i believe i didnt do the partion right all i want to do is help the rom not be so laggy, im usung win xp to do all this, but one more thing, my rom doesnt have the swappiness app built in like ive seen in others peoples vids how do i get it
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You don't use the Swapper app anymore. As long as you have a linux-swap partition done correctly it is automatic. You can however change the swappiness settings in /system/bin/a2sd (it is the number in echo 30 > ...)
ok so im a noob, even with the dummie walkthroughs and all, i still quite dont understand swapping, so i have a 1gb memory card already in the phone formated to fat32, i have hero rom jachero 2.7.4, and u said linux is already in it and i dont need swap, can u pleasae tell me how to do swapper with a tutorial for dummies for bigger dummies lmao, i need help dont understand lol i would love you people forever and stop buggin u
Hang in there I am the same way learning all the new ropes and I myself dont understand the swap settings eaither
Demoyo23 said:
ok so im a noob, even with the dummie walkthroughs and all, i still quite dont understand swapping, so i have a 1gb memory card already in the phone formated to fat32, i have hero rom jachero 2.7.4, and u said linux is already in it and i dont need swap, can u pleasae tell me how to do swapper with a tutorial for dummies for bigger dummies lmao, i need help dont understand lol i would love you people forever and stop buggin u
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Ideally you need an ext and linux-swap partitions, but if you don't want to for whatever reason you can just install the "Swapper" app from the market. A linux-swap partition is much better but this is the next best thing.
AdrianK said:
Ideally you need an ext and linux-swap partitions, but if you don't want to for whatever reason you can just install the "Swapper" app from the market. A linux-swap partition is much better but this is the next best thing.
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Well said. ANother note is that if you are using the stock 1gb card then you will not notice much speed improvement no matter what you do because of having such a slow SD card. I would not recommend and thing less than a class 4 (Class 6 is the fastest).
If you plan on staying with the stock card you should probably look into another ROM.
on Live chat when i get to pick the picture and start cropping it says sorry but do you have enough free space installed on youre sdcard. I HAVE 8 GIGS! WTF!! lol and on Hello IM it says sdcard must not be mounted properly when it is.
Can you guys please helpp me?
is the android pic on your sig powdered with crack spinkles and thats why he's white on his lips and his shoulders?
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is the android pic on your sig powdered with crack spinkles and thats why he's white on his lips and his shoulders?
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Yur a weirdo
AndroidFiend said:
on Live chat when i get to pick the picture and start cropping it says sorry but do you have enough free space installed on youre sdcard. I HAVE 8 GIGS! WTF!! lol and on Hello IM it says sdcard must not be mounted properly when it is.
Can you guys please helpp me?
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Does your SD have a linux swap partition? If it does, that's the problem. I use to have live chat, but I started having that same problem after I partitioned my SD. LC isn't really compatible with the newer ROM's
i have linux swap and NEVER have problems like that....
possibly format your card a redo EVERYTHING (fat32,ext2/3/4,Swap)
sometimes (not saying you did =] ) stuff just gets screwed up. making partitions, using parted to linux-swap-itize(yes i just made that word up.... it'll catch, believe me lol)
and your sd card really isnt built for this type of abuse.
I also have the same problem with Hello IM when i go to change my avatar is says "SD Card is not mounted properly.", This is only started happening after the 2nd to last update i received. I always have to go into Hi AIM, change my icon through there then sign off and log back into Hello AIM.
BlackElvis79 said:
Does your SD have a linux swap partition? If it does, that's the problem. I use to have live chat, but I started having that same problem after I partitioned my SD. LC isn't really compatible with the newer ROM's
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I had linux swap before when i had hero but i formatted my memory stick and phone then switched to cyanogens ROM
i also have this issue! irritating
AndroidFiend said:
I had linux swap before when i had hero but i formatted my memory stick and phone then switched to cyanogens ROM
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I dont think it has anything to do with that stuff because im still on JF ADP 1.5 with no compcache/linuxswap or any of that stuff and im experiencing the same problem.
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Can you change the swap size and the other while in an ROM or do you need to do it in the recovery console and then reflash your ROM?
** Just changed all my setting for swap of 96 MB. ITS SO SUPER FAST ITS UNBELIVEABLE!!!!
I don't think you need to reflash if you can replace the swap partition without affecting the others.
What I mean is I left free space on the end of my SD card so I could experiment with different swap sizes. I've been using 40 on Drizzy Personal V3 but I'm going to try 96 now and see if I notice a difference.
Thank you so much. I gave up on the Hero roms after 1 day due to the lag. Now I am running a 96 mb swap and couldn't be happier!
You should add how to create a swap partition and also how to use Compcache as it could be very helpful. Other than that this looks pretty helpful. I also dont see the need for linux swap in any CM mod since they are very stable and are very smooth. It is an option, but i dont think its at all necessary...
EDIT: Also add how to change swapiness manualy . That would be very helpful...
wow... yha, so like um... well its totaly... like ...you know... ok..? ok
that was like trying to folow a bad paulie shore movie... ( like there were good ones)
+1 for write up on how to set-up and run swap (preferrably for dummies and n00bs)
i updated the thread with how to partition your sd whatever
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im working on the command for terminal to set swappiness
because i used adb to push a user.conf
learned it~many thanks~and howabout 128M?and how much perfect swapiness value for 96m is?
Ayerwin said:
learned it~many thanks~and howabout 128M?and how much perfect swapiness value for 96m is?
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128 is not good
i really didnt like its overall performamnce
oh and for 96 i use 60 for swappiness
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i get the swapper some one asked if you could just change the file size with out reformating ill prolly reformat just to make a clean hero build the other ? is when you set 96 what do u mean by 60 isnt the whole 96 being used?
frost785 said:
i get the swapper some one asked if you could just change the file size with out reformating ill prolly reformat just to make a clean hero build the other ? is when you set 96 what do u mean by 60 isnt the whole 96 being used?
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Well if you you instsll any build the settings on that build are default "i think"
32 swapiness or 20 cant remember and what want to do is set it to 60 so it wont lag and is faster
cuz if you leave it on 32/96 it gets laggy but with 60/96 its the "sweet spot"
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128 is not good
i really didnt like its overall performamnce
oh and for 96 i use 60 for swappiness
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thx sir,i'll try it with v4hero this weekend hah
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ok then i must not get it i know how to change the partition format thats basic but how do i change the swappiness i know they have a program on the market but that doest do it befor start up after is this. sh /system/bin/swap -s i know this is the comand but not sure where to enter it and does it auto give me my default swapness thanks for your help ill keep reading
thanks jf4888, your tutorial helped me more the the other ones.
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I get plenty of force closes with CM's 4.01. I have compcache. My brother did the linux-swap and said it's been so much better. Some people say CM's rom doesn't need swap??? That boggles my mind. I love his roms and get less force closes than JF, but it's far from perfect when force closes are involved.
you might want to include how to update your ext3 to ext4 for those that so desire it. other than that, great guide.
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ok then i must not get it i know how to change the partition format thats basic but how do i change the swappiness i know they have a program on the market but that doest do it befor start up after is this. sh /system/bin/swap -s i know this is the comand but not sure where to enter it and does it auto give me my default swapness thanks for your help ill keep reading
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i put up the command to set swap through terminal it should work considering i tried it myself
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thanks jf4888, your tutorial helped me more the the other ones.
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Here welcome
Oh and for now on start directing people to
The ultimate newb thread
Its a wip(work in progress)
And we hope for it to become a sticky so others
When they have a problem with anything
And I mean anything can go there and have any question answered
install swap partition without formatting whole sd?
Thanks for the great guide. Noob here I already formtted my sd card and have apps2sd etc but would like to create a swap partition (running cyonogen 4.0.1 with ext2, ext3)
Is there a way to create a swap partition without having to format the whole sd and recreating ext2 and 3?
I started off with cyanogen 4.0.4, I like it, but it seems to lag a lot when I open/close the screen, when the screen view changes from side to side to up and down. I have a 4gb (I think its class 4) card, and I formated it with like 3.xxgb fat32, then 512mb ext3.
So I decided to format the card and try hero (latest non-experimental version).
I like it better, but everytime I touch something it gives me a TouchFlo force close error. I tried reformatting the card and re wiping/flashing the update, no go. For hero I had 3.xx fat32, 512 ext3, and 32 swap.
For both builds I had cyanogens latest recovery, the latest radio, and the latest spl (hykaro, I think I spelled that wrong lol)
So, am I doing something wrong? My friends g1 has the cyan 4.0.4 build on a 2gb card I believe, and his is smokin fast compared to mine.
Someone help me out, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
At this point I think I wanna keep the hero build, but I need to solve the touchflo issue. If not, ill be fine with cyanogen's, but ill just run the hero theme on it.
Also, if I go with cyanogen, should I run a swap partition or no?
The swap partition really increases the speed of the Rom, Are you running apps2sd?
my suggestion is make a swap partition and set up usernint.sh so you can use both compcache and swap on Cyanogen 4.04. It should speed it up a lot. Link in my signature.
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The swap partition really increases the speed of the Rom, Are you running apps2sd?
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with hero i was, as i understood, it does apps2sd automatically?
with cyanogen 4.0.4, im not sure if i was, if it had to be set up, i may not have been and that might be part of the reason. how do u ensure that im running apps2sd?
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my suggestion is make a swap partition and set up usernint.sh so you can use both compcache and swap on Cyanogen 4.04. It should speed it up a lot. Link in my signature.
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ill try that now. should i stick with 4.0.4, or the experimental (which i heard is pretty stable, or am i wrong?)
also, i think i may order an 8gb class 6 like you have linked in your sig, hell for 17 bux, might as well.
and in your sig, what is that "xROM" you have listed after cyanogen? do i need that as well?
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with hero i was, as i understood, it does apps2sd automatically?
with cyanogen 4.0.4, im not sure if i was, if it had to be set up, i may not have been and that might be part of the reason. how do u ensure that im running apps2sd?
ill try that now. should i stick with 4.0.4, or the experimental (which i heard is pretty stable, or am i wrong?)
also, i think i may order an 8gb class 6 like you have linked in your sig, hell for 17 bux, might as well.
and in your sig, what is that "xROM" you have listed after cyanogen? do i need that as well?
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To check A2SD is running, check how much free space you have on your ext (Settinds > SD card > Secondary) install a couple of big apps - "Bonsai Blast" is 6MB - and check to see if free space has gone down. It A2SD is working it should have done.
4.04 or 4.1.11.1 doesn't really matter. I had a few acore FC's on 4.11.1.1 so 4.04 is your best bet. Could be my fault for not wiping though.
xROM is just...a ROM basically I believe it's based on CM 4.04 but it's themed up and looks awesome
so is the xROM different than 4.0.4? or am i confused.....lol
anyone have any idea on the issue im having with loading Hero? i just wiped and reloaded, and im still getting TouchFlo force close constantly.
anyone else having this issue?
Wipe your ext partition before wiping and flashing:
Go to Terminal:
Rm -rf /system/sd/*
Reboot recovery
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oh, so when im in recovery, and i do alt+w, that wipes what? i thought it wiped everything? that might be the reason, ill try what you said.
although i even reformatted the card completely, then put hero on it and it still is doing it (randomly)
i had it working just now for bout 5-10 minutes then it started again.
also, when i went to wifi tethering, it says my kernel doesnt support it or something (didnt catch the whole error, ill try to copy it down if i see it again after wiping/reinstalling)
is there any reason to run hero over say....cyanogen 4.0.4 with a hero THEME? what are the advantages to running the actual Hero rom?
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Wipe your ext partition before wiping and flashing:
Go to Terminal:
Rm -rf /system/sd/*
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i got rm failed for -rf, read-only file system
Yeah try wiping the whole sd card, not just the fat32 partition. Maybe your sd card is going bad? see if you can borrow another and give it another shot.
If he formats through the terminal app does he have to issue su before the other commands? Its been a while since I did mine sry.
I got Cm 4.04 and it works pretty fast on my 8gb class 4 card. I had some lag issues once I installed a few apps. I guess they didn't agree with the either the rom or the hero theme I have lol. Got rid of them and its back to normal. was the SayMyName and TTS Library....in my case tho. It might just be my phone running out of ram, not to sure tho.
And If Im not mistaken, Apps2sd is automatic on the rom.
i got that command to work, i forgot to SU.
i have an extra 1gb laying here, ill try that to see if it does anything different.
i just ordered an 8gb class 6 so that should be here soon anyways.
whats the difference in running hero, vs cyanogen 4.0.4 with a hero theme?
I'm not sure what the difference is but just to clarify my lag issue..
I have around 20ish apps installed. Everything still works pretty good. I just happen to install an app that must have intergrated itself in the system files or something and slowed and almost locked my phone up. Maybe it was the app maybe it wasnt. After I un installed it, things were back to normal.
From what I've been reading Hero is alower then the normal normal G1 builds. I'll have to try a hero build soon. Goodluck.
yea ive tried 2 different hero builds, i overall think cyanogen's 4.0.4 is what i like best, and ill just run the hero theme, i like the theme alot.
the only thing on that as far as lagging goes, is when i open the screen, it switches to landscape view fine most of the time, but when i close it, probably 7 times out of 10, it will lag when switching back to portrait view. the screen goes blurry when its switching (like when you go to power down the phone), for sometimes 2-3 seconds until it switches. i dont remember this happening when i had the stock software on the phone.
any ideas? im going to try the other SD card in a few minutes here just to test it.
ok so upon further review, it seems to only lag when the screen switches from landscape to portrait when the screen is closed. when you physically change the position of the phone, it takes 2, sometimes 3 seconds to switch the screen view. when opening/closing the screen, it switches very fast, as it did with the stock FW.
is this normal?
is there a way to disable that? i really only like it switching screen view based on if the screen is open, or closed.
if its normal, ill have to live with it
I think this is normal. On the normal stock/1.5 builds, the screen will not switch to landscape while the screen is closed on the home screen. It will only change to landscape when you slide out the screen. Is this the transition your talking about? I think its part of the build or theme, the os has to load up additional settings to force it to go to landscape while the screen is closed. For the most part it seems like the os is trying to figure out what position the gsensor/motion sensor thing is in, before it adjusts itself accordingly. I get the same thing on cm 4.04 and on the on the 4.1 I tried once...
soon I will be trying another 4.1 build, I'll let you know the results. nandroid backup is awsome lol
yea thats what im talkin about. i wish i could have it not switch views when the screen it closed, but oh well
im still stuck between hero and cyanogen. i tried xROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543621) didnt like the layout of that theme.
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yea thats what im talkin about. i wish i could have it not switch views when the screen it closed, but oh well
im still stuck between hero and cyanogen. i tried xROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=543621) didnt like the layout of that theme.
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Note: if you want hero, you MUST have a swap partition. the g1 doesnt have enough ram for hero. you may get forceclosures because the g1 is running out of ram without anything even running. you need a swap of atleast 32mb. jac recommends 64mb and i along with a majority use 96mb swap
you know what, that might be it. i did have a swap partition, but there is a command or something you have to do to make the phone USE the swap parition right? if thats the case, that might very well be why it keeps FC'ing.
i ordered an 8gb class 6 sd card, should i do more than a 96mb swap? or is 96mb plenty?