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Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things
Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
afaseth said:
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)
afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.
thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?
RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!
i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?
That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.
I recently erased and reinstalled the rom (it just wasn't running as clean as I wanted to)which is the basic rom that came from ATT. Anyways. i'm having troubles as:
1) I get no response sometimes with the touch screen. Whether I touch hard or soft.After 3 seconds or so of constant tapping it comes to life but happens too frequently. I get so pissed I want to slam it the floor.
2)Another problem i'm having is I can't install many programs. I'm getting tons of errors. I can't install Kaiser tweak or advanced config. I can't install games.
3) when I'm in a wifi area (coffeeshop/restaurant) I go to activate the wifi card (wireless manager) and it gives me the 4 colored icon moving showing it's working for 4-5 seconds and it's still off. I can't activate the damn wifi card..
4)videos I converted with spb mobile dvd appear to play slow and have speech delays/synching, which they never did.
5) A wierd thing happened when I used "file explorer ex" to go to the storage card directory, all of a sudden I had tons of wierd files all having 3 characters only with numbers/letters with a windows icon and I couldn't erase it because it said it was a system file. something like 10-15 of them. I restarted the system and it went back to being normal.
DAMN TYTNII/TILT/8925! i'm fed up with slowness and problems with the phone. I'm considering the Touch pro2 but from what I see it has the same crap processor and so I'm wondering if they didn't include the video driver for that one (or any other model HTC has, and so I'm consider something besides HTC, maybe the xperia) as well. I want to be able to play full movies, skyfire, and a good keyboard not like the tilt. I want the UI to be very fast and smooth not like the tilt.And when I press the red button to hang up a call, I don't want to wait 2-3 seconds either. BTW, when is WM7 coming out cause this 6.1 aint doing it for me.
I AM NOT HAPPY.
That sounds bad.... When you say you reinstalled the ROM do you mean that you reflashed it or that you did a hard reset?
Have you tried a hard reset? (again)
Settings-> system -> clear storage
You could also try the official WM6.1 ROM that can be found on the HTC web site.
if the purpose of the thread was to rant/vent, i'll leave it at that
but if you want help to see if you can improve on some or all of your complaints, we will need more information, particularly:
A. was it fine before? when did each of the problems start? please go back to your original post and describe which problems existed from the beginning and which ones popped up later
B. describe your configuration. which version of windows mobile are you using? 6.0? 6.1? 6.5? is it an official ROM or a "cooked" one? whats your SPL version? which radio ROM are you using?
C. which software are you using for video playback? granted, the kaiser lacks proper video drivers (as do most of HTC's newer models), it can still be tweaked quite nicely to give very acceptable video playback...i play divx/xvid videos at FULL framerate with no lag on my set up, after appropriate tweaks of course
D. maybe the wifi networks you are trying to connect to are SECURE and/or MAC filtered...have you tried connecting to a network that you are certain is open-for-all?
E. have you tried a hard reset as suggested in the first response in this thread?
F. most of the problems you are mentioning sound like SOFTWARE and/or OS issues...hardware is quite a distant possibility to blame so considering moving to a new device based on your reported observations is uninformed. windows phones are windows phones and they are designed to be flexible and masters-of-everything and therefore require the user to be well informed and aware of what he/she is doing. if you can't keep up and don't desire and/or can't harness the uber-power that the kaiser delivers, move on to the iFart and be done with it
my advice is to provide answers to the above and/or perform a hard reset and/or change your ROM. OR, you COULD just have a lemon on your hands in which case a change of hardware is your only option. but you will only know for sure it is a lemon if you go through the motions mentioned here...
good luck!
Have you tried a hard reset? (again)
Settings-> system -> clear storage
No I haven't, but I will.
You could also try the official WM6.1 ROM that can be found on the HTC web site.
I will have to invest more time in learning in how to do that. I did try many months before to read up on how to do the rom stuff but (not to offend the website) the info is all over the place and not esthetically pleasing to read, I gave up. Plus it didn't answer a simple question of:"If you've cid unlocked your phone do you need jumpspl or just do hardSPL"
if the purpose of the thread was to rant/vent, i'll leave it at that
At first it was to write the problems I had but more and more when I was into writing the post I was getting so Pi**ed so mostly help, part rant..
a)I've had the phone since Sept08. After unlocking it using an ebay service I used it as it was. a few weeks after that I did my first hard reset ( I forgot the terminology before) and then a week later found out about the 3 second reset to remove bloatware, so did that. About every 2-3 months it seems to have little problems (not run smoothly, memory full)and I do a hard reset. The last one I did was 2-3 weeks ago. I missed the 3 second opportunity and did a HR again, then did it. On my Mi-SD card I have most of the software I need to get it going. All TCPMP extensions to play flash, windows DLL's , kaiser tweak, memmaid, aflashlight app, skyfire, opera, minimo, fonts, ringtone, HTChome6, a dialer to replace the junk one included,and other stuff, you get the idea. The screen was fine before. never had the tapping problem i'm having now.
b)I can't install KTweak or the andvanced config, which I was easily able to before. I removed opera because it was bothering me with the XML part of the Ktweak, but still not able to..
c) I have WM6 PRO CEOS 5.2.1620(build 18125.0.4.2) just the regular att one I recieved when i bought the phone (ebay)
d)which software are you using for video playback?
TCPMP with all the drivers/DLL's. Btw, for the heck of it, all video's of WMV I converted using SPB dvd mobile I played in windows mobile, and it plays it much smoother than the TCPMP.
e)As far as the wifi is concerned, I mean that first I activate wifi through CONN manager, and try to activate the 2nd icon on the right side going down, the "I" with the the 2 "c's" on each side..that's what i'm talking about, it doesn't want to turn yellow. Then after I activate it, I go to the wifi, see the available networks available then connect to one. I don't even get to the 2nd stage since it doesn't want to turn the wifi on..I tried it this second it works fine. I guess it works according to how it feels that day.. Not that I net so much with the phone. WhenI can't activate the wifi card,, the square "E" icon at the top starts searching using GPRS (if I recall) and it shows the "E" with 2 arrows moving to the sides (like the wifi does) and a windows keeps popping up and won't go away!!! it drives me crazy..I press the hang up button but it doesn't stop it, till I can take it no more and pull the battery out..
maybe the wifi networks you are trying to connect to are SECURE and/or MAC filtered no, their all public wifi's, in restaurants, coffee places..places like that..
f)I'm having another problem I didn't post before. When taking photos, there is no zoom out/in icons like they're used to be. This problem started about 3 months ago. H-reset or S-reset won't bring back the 2 icons. In Video yes, but in camera mode no..
most of the problems you are mentioning sound like SOFTWARE and/or OS issues...hardware is quite a distant possibility to blame so considering moving to a new device based on your reported observations is uninformed. windows phones are windows phones and they are designed to be flexible and masters-of-everything and therefore require the user to be well informed and aware of what he/she is doing. if you can't keep up and don't desire and/or can't harness the uber-power that the kaiser delivers, move on to the iFart and be done with it
YOU"RE 100% right!(Iphone..OH,GOD NO!!)I lack some knowledge as to how to work it properly, you're right about that. I don't want a phone that I buy to have to flash it it, and to do this and that, and blah blah blah. I want something that will work right out of the box. Will be quick, not lack drivers(which btw, HTC back stabbed everyone, and for this reason I'm not sure i'll go with HTC again) and be able to do it all. I'm willing to put down $1k for this phone, even $1400, but fo some reason or another no one can make one. Why I don't know. Why can't 1 smart manufacturer, look at all the flaws of the top phones and produce a perfect phone. People would jump all over it. I also feel like giving up with the TILT, only because it doesn't satisfy my needs. i'm not to happy with the TILT. At first I was extremly excited, but now, I want to slam it to the floor. The software lacks many things, and it can only do so much. The market and tech is there for many years, can't they make a perfect pda phone, and why the hell is taking M$ so long to make an OS that has it all? If they can make a great OS like Windows 7, why can't they implament that tech to PPC's? LAZY IMO!
I'm looking at all the phones on GSM arena, and none of them has it all, none. Considered the xperia, but crappy rez and small screen. The new Idou, only good because of the 12MP camera, but nothing else, and don't want symbian OS..fed up with Nokia..nothing normal out there. All HTC's. all the same..can't find something normal..
I will do the reset and i'll et you know in a few hours.
Thanks for all your help, I extremely appreciate it..
I should have posted the topic" I NEED HELP PLEASE. TILT AND OWNER FREAKING OUT+RANT"
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Have you tried a hard reset? (again)
Settings-> system -> clear storage
No I haven't, but I will.
You could also try the official WM6.1 ROM that can be found on the HTC web site.
I will have to invest more time in learning in how to do that...not esthetically pleasing to read, I gave up. Plus it didn't answer a simple question of:"If you've cid unlocked your phone do you need jumpspl or just do hardSPL"
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jumpspl is needed ONLY AND ONLY to CHANGE your HardSPL...it is also needed to put on the HardSPL in the first place. it may not be a very intuitive read and certainly requires some effort on the reader's part but if you read it all carefully, your concepts will become rock solid and all further steps and conclusions will flow logically...the pieces will fall into place.
if the purpose of the thread was to rant/vent, i'll leave it at that
At first it was to write the problems I had but more and more when I was into writing the post I was getting so Pi**ed so mostly help, part rant..
a)I've had the phone since Sept08...On my Mi-SD card I have most of the software I need to get it going. All TCPMP extensions to play flash, windows DLL's , kaiser tweak, memmaid, aflashlight app, skyfire, opera, minimo, fonts, ringtone, HTChome6, a dialer to replace the junk one included,and other stuff, you get the idea. The screen was fine before. never had the tapping problem i'm having now.
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its a good idea to keep all installables on your micro sd card. BUT, you should install ONLY the stuff you TRULY need. also remember to clear up browser caches and temporary files that are dropped on the device internal memory from time to time. skyfire, opera, minimo...thats THREE browsers in addition to the builtin IE...i just stick to the latest official beta of opera 9.7 in addition to the latest IE built in to my winmo6.5 ROM. my point is, windows mobile (pre 6.x, 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5) is somewhat delicate and sensitive in terms of the specific versions of applications you install. i've had my kaiser (my FIRST winmo device) for just over a year...i still use pretty much the same applications as i did the first couple of months, i've abandoned some in favor of better ones, and nearly all of them are newer versions that i am certain are compatible with the winmo build(s) i am using at any given time. your stock ROM is quite an OLD build and quite a few corrections and improvements have been made to the OS, so much so that the build number is now in the 21xxx range (compared to your 6.0 build of 18125) and still going further (a bunch of new bugs and issues are inevitable as the OS moves forward). my point is, perhaps you have accumulated some newer installables that don't quite play well with your old OS build 18125.
b)I can't install KTweak or the andvanced config, which I was easily able to before. I removed opera because it was bothering me with the XML part of the Ktweak, but still not able to..
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thats odd...once again, kaisertweak and advanced config have both progressed to newer versions...if you have an old installable, try a new installable. if you are already trying the new installable, try the old one from the era that your build belongs to.
c) I have WM6 PRO CEOS 5.2.1620(build 18125.0.4.2) just the regular att one I recieved when i bought the phone (ebay)
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i'm not saying you should try att's newer official winmo6.1 ROM but some people have reported great improvements, but your milage may vary. i, on the other hand, SWEAR by "cooked" ROMs and there are some particular cooked ROMs that will impress the $H1T out of you
d)which software are you using for video playback?
TCPMP with all the drivers/DLL's. Btw, for the heck of it, all video's of WMV I converted using SPB dvd mobile I played in windows mobile, and it plays it much smoother than the TCPMP.
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i never used TCPMP and i quickly moved on to coreplayer, even when i was on winmo6.0. so far, the BEST video performance i have gotten was with the following configuration:
1. Sakajati's HyperDragon IV Rhodium ROM (April 10th, 2009)
2. chainfire's gfxboost v1.1
3. coreplayer 1.3.2 build 6909
4. coreplayer configured to DISABLE QTV mode, and video mode set to DirectDraw @ medium quality
on a side note, the ROM mentioned in item 1 above is STELLAR if you're looking for a good cooked winmo6.1 ROM.
e)As far as the wifi is concerned, I mean that first I activate wifi...I guess it works according to how it feels that day.. Not that I net so much with the phone. WhenI can't activate the wifi card,, the square "E" icon at the top starts searching using GPRS (if I recall) and it shows the "E" with 2 arrows moving to the sides (like the wifi does) and a windows keeps popping up and won't go away!!! it drives me crazy..I press the hang up button but it doesn't stop it, till I can take it no more and pull the battery out..
maybe the wifi networks you are trying to connect to are SECURE and/or MAC filtered no, their all public wifi's, in restaurants, coffee places..places like that..
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make sure your wifi is set for "Best Performance" as opposed to the default "Best Battery". you might want to look into changing your radio ROM as well, making sure to match the radio version with your winmo MAJOR version. that is, some radios are made ONLY for winmo6.0, others ONLY for winmo6.1 and winmo6.5. same concept applies to the particular HardSPL version you use. finally, quite a few senior members and cooks here claim that wifi is the ONLY radio that is NOT AFFECTED by your radio version but my experience has been different.
also, you need to understand how windows mobile "picks" an available connection and uses it. if your data connection is set up and enabled, it will almost always be picked and forced to connect, even if your wifi is already connected. you'll have to read up some more about the concept but here is what i do. i have my data connection DISABLED all the time. i force windows mobile to always pick "My Work Network" (which is usually the wifi). note that windows will NEVER force the wifi to connect and won't be able to connect the data connection because i have disabled it. this way, i have TOTAL control over how it "dials out". so when i am in a wifi area, i connect my wifi manually and when i am not in a wifi area, i enable my data connection and i let windows dial out onto Edge/GPRS, etc.
f)I'm having another problem I didn't post before. When taking photos, there is no zoom out/in icons like they're used to be. This problem started about 3 months ago. H-reset or S-reset won't bring back the 2 icons. In Video yes, but in camera mode no..
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errr i think the zoom level is controllable in the camera ONLY in non-3-megapixel mode. that is, if your camera's picture taking mode is set to 3MP, you will NOT get any zoom control. set it to anything lower and you should get zoom control. you must have inadvertantly set the resolution to below 3MP and 3 months ago, either you or the hard reset must have caused it to revert to 3MP, hence your inability to zoom in picture mode.
most of the problems you are mentioning sound like SOFTWARE and/or OS issues...hardware is quite a distant possibility to blame so considering moving to a new device based on your reported observations is uninformed. windows phones are windows phones and they are designed to be flexible and masters-of-everything and therefore require the user to be well informed and aware of what he/she is doing. if you can't keep up and don't desire and/or can't harness the uber-power that the kaiser delivers, move on to the iFart and be done with it
YOU"RE 100% right!(Iphone..OH,GOD NO!!)I lack some knowledge as to how to work it properly, you're right about that. I don't want a phone that I buy to have to flash it it, and to do this and that, and blah blah blah. I want something that will work right out of the box. Will be quick, not lack drivers(which btw, HTC back stabbed everyone, and for this reason I'm not sure i'll go with HTC again) and be able to do it all. I'm willing to put down $1k for this phone, even $1400, but fo some reason or another no one can make one. Why I don't know. Why can't 1 smart manufacturer, look at all the flaws of the top phones and produce a perfect phone. People would jump all over it. I also feel like giving up with the TILT, only because it doesn't satisfy my needs. i'm not to happy with the TILT. At first I was extremly excited, but now, I want to slam it to the floor. The software lacks many things, and it can only do so much. The market and tech is there for many years, can't they make a perfect pda phone, and why the hell is taking M$ so long to make an OS that has it all? If they can make a great OS like Windows 7, why can't they implament that tech to PPC's? LAZY IMO!
I'm looking at all the phones on GSM arena, and none of them has it all, none. Considered the xperia, but crappy rez and small screen. The new Idou, only good because of the 12MP camera, but nothing else, and don't want symbian OS..fed up with Nokia..nothing normal out there. All HTC's. all the same..can't find something normal..
I will do the reset and i'll et you know in a few hours.
Thanks for all your help, I extremely appreciate it..
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i said it before and i'll say it again and i don't mean to sound harsh but windows mobile is powerful...and with great power comes great responsibility...the user HAS TO BE AWARE of what he/she is doing and what is going on in the device to be able to tweak it and customize it and to get it to do EXACTLY what is desired.
Hello,
I have searched thoroughly on this site and I cannot find any help. I used to have vista ultimate and I down loaded the usb modem drivers and it worked like a charm. I had to re image my pc and now I have vista business. However now when I try to load the drivers they do now show up on the device list and it does not successfully install the modem. Am I missing something? is there an updated driver? Can anyone please help or point me to where I can get some help. I really need to get back on line. Thanks XDA
I have a suggestion which might work.
Look at your device manager and see if there is anything on there thats coming up as unidentified... if there is, and with the phone connected to activesync so the PC knows the phone is there (assuming activesync is working), delete those entries one by one and when you delete one you need to click *scan for hardware changes under the *actions menu.
If you didnt start from scratch with the PC - IE format the hard drive and rebuild the system - that may mean there is a corrupt version of the driver still floating about and causing problems. This is why in the places I have worked we always backed machines up - did a full format - and then either imaged or rebuilt the box manually.
Another option is to go online to the manufacturers support site for updated drivers and install them from a location you have saved them too to your hard drive..
From my experience dealing with recalcitrant USB devices I would think that the first issue is more likely.
However there is another possibility that may be the root of the problem. I know that different versions of Vista support different connectivity options and setups - aka Vista Basic doesnt do Active Directory or Domains (im dredging this up from memory so its a little hazy). There is the remote possibility that the Business version doesnt support phones as USB modems, although I would be very surprised if that was the case.
It does strike me as a little odd that you have gone from one version of the same OS to a different version of the same OS and have had this sort of problem... but then Microsoft are known for compatibility gremlins - two words - Windows ME
Hope that helped.
I know, it is very surprising to me that now it does not work on Vista Business. You would think that it is basically the same OS but with less features. It is the 32 bit version. Its driving me crazy because I depend on it to do my work from my laptop and it just does not populate the device name when browsing and selecting the drivers. It sees the device it just does not pupulate. When I try to do the right click and install it does install it but it still does not show up under modems. If any one else has more suggestions I will greatly appreciate it.
No need to panic fello xda members and friends. It is all good now...i am typing thins theteering from my laptop through my tilt. Thanks xda you are the best. The speed trough my tilt is faster than my 2wire at home....ftw.:d
The number of OS-es for our "little friend" (i'm talking about a ppc ) keeps growing, many versions of windows mobile including the soon to be released 7, android and symbian.
I was wondering if it's possible to have just a boot loader with basic drivers that will allow users to have different roms in storage card and just continue booting the rom from there.
I'm a web application developer working with actionscript 3 and some java for serverside so I don't know a lot about mobile hardware architecture and but I was wondering if anyone with a lot more knowledge into the field can enlighten me and anyone else interested about that possibility.
Thanks in advance for any bit of information.
Romeo.
There is a bootloader that lets you pick between wm and android but its not a bootloader in the traditional sense, just an application that runs when wm boots that gives you the option of staying in wm or running haret to boot into android.
AFAIK, theres no way to switch ROMs or versions of WM without a reflash.
Wouldnt be a bad idea though, as you could have a stable 6.1 ROM on one hand as a backup and could still play around with a less stable 6.5.5 rom with the latest packages, manila etc.
not to mention, that booting a ROM from MMC will result in crap performance (just look at android, i mean max respect for all the hard work/coding done, it's a structural limitation issue) because of the slower transfer speed.
imho the whole phone os idea should be handled more like a desktop pc. you know, bios, OS install, partitions, etc. ofc adapted for a mobile phone. instead of these "closed" proprietary bootloaders.
this whole rom thingy doesnt really seem logical to me. the concept itself of WM "build" is stupid and pretty uncomfortable. an updatable os would make all things easier. for us geeks atleast.
hopefully it will happen
Thanks guys for supporting the idea If it's not possible at this stage maybe letting the right people know that we want that will make a change.
@ASK768 Yeah i knew about the "boot loader" for android ... actually i'm not even sure if android has full control over the phone while running with haret or some part of windows mobile is underneath. Is android running on top of some windows drivers or something?
I was not really able to run android due to some "formatting for video performance" of my SD Card (haven't really noticed any change and did not benchmark also i hope i'll find the time one day) ... well it least that's what i think the problem is.
@crashDebug i think the most important parts of the rom are loaded into memory so it might just increase boot time. I'm running most of my application from Storage Card and i did not really see any difference in performance. I might be wrong about it's just what i noticed from experimenting without any real benchmark.
I completely agree with phones being as desktop PC's and i really hope we'll be there soon but i still hope something can be done with the blackstone
i wouldnt count on it and with the rumors about winmo7 well things aint goin in the right direction ifear
This is my first windows phone (with an exception of an hd2), I've owned over 50 android phones, needless to say that I am extra lost switching to windows 7.5. I was wondering if it's just me or if theres something up with WiFi, my signal seems to be very weak if I get one at all and it wont connect. Also I'm a swype user, is there something similar I can download? And if I download from my computer, can I download .apk's?
Also is there a way in the notification area, to tell if I'm constantly connected to wifi so I'm not using mobile data?
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This is my first windows phone (with an exception of an hd2), I've owned over 50 android phones, needless to say that I am extra lost switching to windows 7.5. I was wondering if it's just me or if theres something up with WiFi, my signal seems to be very weak if I get one at all and it wont connect. Also I'm a swype user, is there something similar I can download? And if I download from my computer, can I download .apk's?
Also is there a way in the notification area, to tell if I'm constantly connected to wifi so I'm not using mobile data?
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Just realized I posted in the wrong section, if someone can move it. Sorry about that, running on no sleep lol.
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This is my first windows phone (with an exception of an hd2), I've owned over 50 android phones, needless to say that I am extra lost switching to windows 7.5. I was wondering if it's just me or if theres something up with WiFi, my signal seems to be very weak if I get one at all and it wont connect. Also I'm a swype user, is there something similar I can download? And if I download from my computer, can I download .apk's?
Also is there a way in the notification area, to tell if I'm constantly connected to wifi so I'm not using mobile data?
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In the marketplace there's an app called Slydr, that is based on the same principals as swype. I don't use it so I couldn't tell you if it's nearly as accurate as swype.
As far as WiFi, mine has excellent strength, it will pick up WiFi networks from quite some distances. Far superior to my TP2 and my wife's android device... I'm writing this now sitting in my driveway connected to my WiFi network. Your signal reduction could be due to the OS and radio version that your device is running. To change your radio though you would have to unlock your device or root it as know in android and then you can flash a custom rom and radio.
The other thing with wp7 is that when your device is in sleep mode or once you lock the screen it disconnect from the WiFi network and once the device is awakened it will instantly reconnect to the WiFi network. There is an app in the marketplace called Keep Alive that keeps you connected even when it's in sleep mode.
In the notification bar there is a WiFi symbol that kind of looks like a tornado and when it's lit bright indicates that it's connected. These are some XAP's you can install for WiFi status - DS Super Tool, Quick Launch and Folders Creator and then pin them to the start screen.
There are no APK's for wp7, if you unlock your device you can then install XAP's or homebrew apps through the devices IE. XAP's can be found in the the Windows Phone 7 Development and Hacking section under wp7 Development and Hacking and wp7 Software Development. There are also homebrew marketplaces, Devstore 8 and WP Bazaar. Both can be installed to the device as an XAP.
If you go to - Settings - About - more, this will give you the devices information, OS, Firware, Bootloader, Radio and so on.
If your interested in unlocking your device and flashing a custom rom and or radio take a look at Shadows tutorial on downgrading SPL, Flashing XSPL and installing roms.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1295068
That was a ton of great info!! I appreciate it big time. Any recommendations on radios and roms? Just want to stay somewhat stock, even if it's a new WP version.
I also noticed I can't update or download half the apps without wifi. That really stinks.
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There's alot of great custom roms available. My personal favorite is Deepshining. The current version is running on OS WP 7.8 which isn't even released yet. It has some nice features and a new start screen where you can customize the tile sizes. If your looking to stay more towards stock I would look through the HD7 Development and Hacking section and look at some of the roms and see which one would suit you the best. The cool thing is if you unlock your device and install HSPL its super easy to flash another rom... Download and extract the rom, put the device in bootloader mode connect to your PC and flash away. I would look at Deepshining, Nextgen +, Intrinsic, Dynamics 7, and Ansar's 8835 roms. Some roms have a suggested Radio to go with it. I use Radio 565.09.25a_22.45.50.21u
If you go into Settings - About - More and post back the info from that screen we can get an idea of where your device is at on the OS and if it needs to be updated.
Yeah there is definitely a limitation on downloading larger files and it requiring WiFi. If you end up unlocking your device there is an XAP called Marketplace Configuration and one of the features allows you to set and increase the download size without WiFi.
OS version 7.10.8107.79
Firmware rev 2250.21.51202.531
hardware rev 0002
radio software 5.71.09.02a_22.51.50.21U
radio hardware A.12.0.D4
Bootloader version 5.12.2250.0(135916)
Chip SOC version 2.2.5.0
I've been seeing a lot of the deepshining name, If it's stable I'd probably like to go with that route. If I flash that, is a newer/better radio included?
Am I suppose to downgrade my bootloader using the y-connector or goldcard trick, since I have 5.12.2250.0 bootloader?
I don't have any of the cables and stuff :\
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Am I suppose to downgrade my bootloader using the y-connector or goldcard trick, since I have 5.12.2250.0 bootloader?
I don't have any of the cables and stuff :\
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OK... You have a TMobile HD7 with bootloader 5.xxx.
Yep you have to use the goldcard/ Y cable method to downgrade your SPL to at or below 3.xxx, (which is required to install RSPL/HSPL) then install RSPL/HSPL and then flash a custom rom.
The goldcard/ Ycable method is very easy... You can either make the Y cable or purchase one online at like Amazon for $5. You also need a 1gb or 2gb SD card (larger SD cards work but need to be partitioned) and a card reader.
Download the goldcard tool and goldcard image from here -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1597837
Download and extract this rom to a new folder on your desktop -
http://www.filefactory.com/file/cc8...9.25a_22.45.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe
Extract the RUU_signed.nbh and rename it to SCHUIMG.nbh. Wipe the SD card and format it to FAT32, put the SCHUIMG.nbh on the SD card and run the goldcard tool, select and patch the goldcard image. Make the Y cable connections with the card reader and power plug, enter the device into USB host mode and connect it to the Y cable and the flash process will begin....pretty easy.
I just started trying this link: http://techglimpse.com/index.php/install-custom-rom-htc-hd7-windows-phone.php I assume it's not going to work? I keep getting error 226. I really don't want to go out and buy a cable.
I think I may just wait for the official lol. Can I still upgrade the radio to get a better WiFi signal without going all out?
Also is there a way to always show the status bar or symbols. And how do I get my emails to show the thumbnails? ,it says they don't download for my safety or whatever.
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Anyone? Also now my web pages aren't loading properly.. I'm thinking of going back to Android lol, any help would be great.
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Anyone? Also now my web pages aren't loading properly.. I'm thinking of going back to Android lol, any help would be great.
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I would look into a replacement if at all possible. I have my HD7 on its way soon. I am glad I have my Razor too lol just in case haha
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I'd be happy with it if it just had android version of Facebook and maybe a better browser. I noticed most of the stuff you need to buy.
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So I can't download any apps unless its through the market or if I unlock it?
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So I can't download any apps unless its through the market or if I unlock it?
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Yes that is correct.
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let me share my experience
My HD7 can only sustain at most 2 days. One day, I suddenly found that If I turn on the fly mode, my HD7 can sustain 10days!! wow. It's such an amazing long time for me. So I think the SIM card may eat up large of the battery life. Then I change a latest version of SIM card, my HD7 seems to sustain longer...
I hope my experience maybe helpful
hello
I just got my HTC hd7 how do I install a custom rom on it. Which of d rom is more advice able n can I get a step by step installation process.