My question is this: can you flash 2.3 (or any rom for that matter) directly on to the nook and still keep the nook reader ? or is it only possible to do by loading on the sd card and running from there ?
I ve rooted the Nook and now, I just want a faster android 2.3 would resolve alot of problems
Thanks
There is the option to dual boot various roms. It doesn't affect your stock ROM, installs a second ROM and allows you to choose depending on the combination of buttons your press during boot.
See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959461
If you install CM7 you can install the generic Nook reader available in the Android Marketplace, but it differs from the custom version installed on the stock ROM.
Most threads I've read point to people preferring the stock version, but if you just want access to your B&N collection, moving to CM7 won't prevent this.
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I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
1) You have 2.1 (Eclair)
2) No, you need 2.2. There are several options, including simply running it from an SD card or flashing it to memory (eMMC)
3) CM7 is andrioid 2.3. Good stuff, but still a work in progress.
4) See #2
Thanks very much for responding.
Regarding your answers:
1. Is there a place on the Nook where I can find this?
2. Can you recommend a link to a method for getting this? Is it an upgrade, or would I be completely re-rooting this thing and having to reconfigure everything?
Any suggestions on some basic information for newbies?
Thanks again!
Sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Could you specify what you mean by "this"? Thanks.
Sorry, not sure which question you're referring to.
1. This = The version currently running on it.
2. This = Version 2.2
I can't be certian since I have moved to a CM7 variant, but I think it might be under settings either about or device information.
If you rooted with Autonooter you are on Android 2.1 Eclair. If you are running a froyo rom you are on Android 2.2. If on a CM7 based Rom you are on gingerbread android 2.3
loribuono said:
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
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CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a custom rom, which is a custom operating system that replaces your current one. If you are not familiar with Android yet or rooting, I would stick with autnooter for now. Phiremod beta 2 is a stable custom rom with flash, but you need clockwork recovery first to install it.
Yeah, checked those places Wile E, but didn't see it there. Thanks, though.
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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Most custom rom installs (phiremod) would erase what you have now completely. You would have to redownload programs and use the nook color app from market for books. You could use titanium backup to backup and restore apps. There is a thread here and on androidtablets.net for phiremod beta 2.
But there may be a version of froyo that runs off sdcard but I am not sure how stable that is. If you are running froyo from an sdcard and mess with the nook internally, it may mess your nook up when you remove the card and try to go back to your old setup.
The good thing with the beta 2 version of phiremod is that you can restore a previous version of the nook from the clockwork recovery menu if you have cwr installed. That is if you make a backup first through cwr on your autonooter version of nook.
If you decide to go the route of a custom rom I would check out the how to on androidtablets.net about clockworkmod recovery first.
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Ok here is another long book by me, sorry for the long posts
Yes, Nookie Froyo, CM7, Phiremod give you an entirely new OS.
Custom roms are not any rooting. They are entirely different android operating systems so to speak. Most require one to wipe the devices internal Rom (Read Only Memory) in order to put a new one on. This is sort of risky as it erases everything, but is made less risky by using stable custom roms in combo with clockwork recovery. If the internal memory gets messed up and the procedures for instaling a custom rom are not followed or an error happens, your device will be unusable until fixed (fixed usually by booting CWR off sdcard and installing a stock image). Please do research and ask around XDA or androidtablets before installing a custom rom to know what the ups and downs of it are.
Also please keep in mind on the Nook certain Roms like CM7 require a different version of CWR and require a workaround to work as of now. It can be kind of tricky to install. Phiremod Beta2 can be installed through normal recovery. Check us out over at http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/ if you want. There are a lot of useful guides over there.
Yes autonooter just opens up functionality
Autonooter is not a custom Rom. It is just the method of rooting or unlocking your android device. Rooting an Android device makes you system administrator of the device. This is so you can do things beyond what B&N lets you do with the device like use the Android market.
This is what I did with my Nook. Autnootered it>installed Clockwork Recovery>Made a backup with Clockwork Recovery>Then Installed Phiremod beta2 through clockwork recovery as per the instructions for that rom
Thanks again for this. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to a newbie. It's beginning to make much more sense now. For now, I'll stick with what I've got, keep reading and then go from there.
Ugh. Authentication error while reading a book and then a reset, and I'm back to the beginning. Except worse, because even navigation while reading a book doesn't work right. Anyone experience this?
Sorry I don't have that issues so I am not sure. Maybe its a password issue?
Perhaps. Don't know. Starting over from scratch. All I know is that it happened when I was merely reading a book, about ten minutes after trying to login to Google Talk with a different Google account than the one I used during the AutoNooter process.
Who knows...
I'm kind of new to this, but what is a dual boot? how is it different to just a normal one. is it better at all in performance...i've been looking at the dual boot and it seems very interesting, i dont know if i should try it or not
tylrdoan said:
I'm kind of new to this, but what is a dual boot? how is it different to just a normal one. is it better at all in performance...i've been looking at the dual boot and it seems very interesting, i dont know if i should try it or not
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it basically just means you can have one ROM installed on the internal and one installed on an SD card (or however many on different SD cards) People mainly do this for two reasons...the first is so they can keep the stock B&N software on the internal so they get all the benifits that come with the nook. The second is to try alternate ROMS (such as someone who has froyo installed on their internal and want to try and see how CM7 works)
There are no performance benefits to it and, in fact, can make the ROM run badly if you have a low-class SD card.
If you're not sure about a ROM (or rooting your device in general) then it's nice to try other ways out, also.
Actually... I think he's referring to the "Dual Boot" in Android Development forum. It's where two OS's are installed on the internal memory. They just share the hard drive.
So that way you can have stock eclair(android 2.1 and what comes on the nook originally) and Honeycomb(android 3.0) if you want.
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Actually... I think he's referring to the "Dual Boot" in Android Development forum. It's where two OS's are installed on the internal memory. They just share the hard drive.
So that way you can have stock eclair(android 2.1 and what comes on the nook originally) and Honeycomb(android 3.0) if you want.
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yeah..I just realized this a few minutes ago.
basically the same thing as I said above, except for the SD card problems.
I think the dual-boot will be helpful if you want to try other OS version. But it will occupy some space of you media drive. And please do read the thread throughly before you take action. Otherwise when hit any problem you will not know how to bring your nook back to normal.
If i do have two OS on my nook (right now im running CM7), how would i go to the other os when i boot...like if i wanted to go to honeycomb?
Holding both "n" and power button when turning on. And dont release the power button until you see the multiboot loading screen . Then continue holding home until you see the "ANDROID___" loading.
So I just got a nook color and obviously I want to root it, but heres what I would like to know. Should I upgrade to 1.2 first? I figure if Im going to root, then I dont need the features of 1.2 If I root and install CM7 with CWR and all that good stuff to the eMMc can I put it back to stock nook at any point (like in case I want to return it)? My understanding is that autonooter is to install android to an microSD card and you still have stock nook when not booted from sd, correct?
Im not looking to run HC and Id think Id like to keep the features that the nook has, but is booting off SD really that slow? Can I still over clock if booting off sd? Besides CM7 is there a stable working froyo or GB rom? I run Chevy's SS 5.2 on my D1 which is GB with some tweaks and would like something similar.
I know its a lot, but id appreciate the help, search for all of these is very overwhelming as most of the answers are buried in 100's of replies.
Running from SD can be at least as fast as eMMC and does not require rooting, and you can upgrade stock without worrying. The "Android Odyssey" blog post linked in my sig has links to all the resources you'll need for a fast and painless CM7 set-up.
Maybe you'll still want to root afterward, but I started out intending to just 'try out' CM7 on SD, and couldn't be happier with my system as-is.
I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
My version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
siavoshkc said:
I installed manualnooter-4-5-18 with no problem. But when I install manualnooter-4-6-16 device gets stuck on colorful Nook Color logo show.
I version is 1.3.
I also need some advice:
1. Isn't it better to use cm-7.2.0-encore instead of original OS? I can't decide.
2. Shouldn't I update to more recent versions of nook software (higher than 1.3) then mod it?
Thank you for software and support
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It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
leapinlar said:
It depends on what you want.
If you are invested in the nook store with lots of purchased apps or want to read interactive kids books, stay with stock. If you stay with stock, upgrade to 1.4.3 (you can get a CWM flashable version by looking in my tips thread linked in my signature) and root with Manual Nooter. I think it is up to 5.08.20.
If you are not invested in stock, definitely go to CM7.2. It is smooth and very stable.
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So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
siavoshkc said:
So I decided to go with CM7.2 but
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
says it only works with 1.2. I got the link to wiki from here.
And one technical question, does CM7.2 remove original Nook Color OS completely? If so why its version matters?
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Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
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Yes, if you install CMx on EMMC it will replace B&N ROM on the device.
That is an old instruction... The reason that method only works with 1.2 is because they have you rooting it and installing CWM on EMMC. By making a bootable SD and installing CMx from there, there is no reason to root the B&N ROM before installation... so you can install it regardless of ROM on you NookColor.
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So I just copy the CM into the flash (that I had made it bootable with CWM) and install CM from there. I create a backup using CWM.
I have been running MN 4-6-16a on NC software version 1.3 for over a year now. It's not totally stable (I get some freeze-ups occasionally & have to reboot) but it's workable. The other day, my wifi stopped working. Wifi goes off, and when I turn it on, it can't find my router, I get a black box that says 'unable to scan for networks', and it stops responding and the Nook asks me if I want to force close wifi. If I select 'wait' instead of force close, wifi shuts off.
Router works fine, other devices are connected. I have searched other threads, and it seems that some suggest installing CM7, though these suggestions are from a year ago.
Is there something more current I sould be running that would fix this problem. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated for this newbie.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
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I have been running MN 4-6-16a on NC software version 1.3 for over a year now. It's not totally stable (I get some freeze-ups occasionally & have to reboot) but it's workable. The other day, my wifi stopped working. Wifi goes off, and when I turn it on, it can't find my router, I get a black box that says 'unable to scan for networks', and it stops responding and the Nook asks me if I want to force close wifi. If I select 'wait' instead of force close, wifi shuts off.
Router works fine, other devices are connected. I have searched other threads, and it seems that some suggest installing CM7, though these suggestions are from a year ago.
Is there something more current I sould be running that would fix this problem. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated for this newbie.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
The latest ROM for Nook Color is CM10 Jellybean 4.1.2 with a 3.08+ kernel. You can install it on a SD card and try it.If you like how it works you can install it internally. There are great tips threads you can utilize to help get you to the latest ROM. I use CM10 internally on my Nook Color. My other Nook Color has CM7.1 (gingerbread with 2.6.32 kernel). CM10 is running pretty smooth and just as fast as CM7.2.
hwong96 said:
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941247
The latest ROM for Nook Color is CM10 Jellybean 4.1.2 with a 3.08+ kernel. You can install it on a SD card and try it.If you like how it works you can install it internally. There are great tips threads you can utilize to help get you to the latest ROM. I use CM10 internally on my Nook Color. My other Nook Color has CM7.1 (gingerbread with 2.6.32 kernel). CM10 is running pretty smooth and just as fast as CM7.2.
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Wow, that thread has 155 pages ... hard to get through all that .... I did read the first page, though
OK, so I should download CM10 latest nightly version & install ... I don't seem to have a way to back up my data or current ROM since I don't have an internet connection that works. Yes, I could install to SD, but I've read that there can weird problems with this? So I was going to jump right in to an internal install, but it looks like I will lose data for my apps. Is there any advantage to downloading CM7 instead of 10? I ask only because I found a good site with good (newbie) instructions on doing CM7, and the site I found for CM10 has some stuff that I don't completely understand.
Really, I don't have great aspirations for using my NC ... I just need wifi to work so I can access my apps, and that's the only reason I am looking at flashing a new ROM. Is this the only way to go to fix wifi?
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Wow, that thread has 155 pages ... hard to get through all that .... I did read the first page, though
OK, so I should download CM10 latest nightly version & install ... I don't seem to have a way to back up my data or current ROM since I don't have an internet connection that works. Yes, I could install to SD, but I've read that there can weird problems with this? So I was going to jump right in to an internal install, but it looks like I will lose data for my apps. Is there any advantage to downloading CM7 instead of 10? I ask only because I found a good site with good (newbie) instructions on doing CM7, and the site I found for CM10 has some stuff that I don't completely understand.
Really, I don't have great aspirations for using my NC ... I just need wifi to work so I can access my apps, and that's the only reason I am looking at flashing a new ROM. Is this the only way to go to fix wifi?
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For SD card cm10 installation (use Sandisk class 4 or 6)
Here is LeapinLar's thread to get you started http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1941858
Get the latest CM10 nightly here http://get.cm/?device=encore
Make sure to use Gapps 20121011.
Here are the steps involved to make a bootable sd card:
Unzip the ...Rev5.zip
Use program Win32diskimager.exe to write the above unzipped image to SD card
Copy latest Cm10 nightly to sdcard (do not unzip)
Copy gapps 20121011 to SD card (do not unzip)
Safely eject SD card from computer
Backup your Nook apps/data to separate SD card or computer. If you have Clockwork Mod Recovery installed do a nandroid backup on sd
Turn off Nook Color
Insert SD card you created above
Turn on Nook color
Watch the Cm10 splash screen come to life.
Have you tried rebooting your Nook color to see if it can attach to your router?
CM7 is dated on gingerbread and 2.6.32 kernel. CM10 is Jellybean on 3.08+ kernel.
If you prefer rooted stock firmware 1.4.3 check out this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1494901
Many thanks, hwong96! I followed the directions and got CM10 working on an sd and wifi works fine. I am going to take a look at upgrading the stock software and then rooting to see if I can get that working as well, as I prefer the B&N interface/look-and-feel. But in the meantime, at least I have a functioning tablet again. Thank you!
Nitrolady said:
Many thanks, hwong96! I followed the directions and got CM10 working on an sd and wifi works fine. I am going to take a look at upgrading the stock software and then rooting to see if I can get that working as well, as I prefer the B&N interface/look-and-feel. But in the meantime, at least I have a functioning tablet again. Thank you!
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Your welcome. Another satisfied customer.
Check out item A15 in LeapinLar's thread for stock ROM install via CWM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25354258#post25354258