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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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Ive done a little bit of searching and cant seem to find a thread about this (im sure there is one but i cant find it) so my question is which of the three do you like? i know there are pros and cons to all of them but i dont really know what to go with. any suggestions?
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For me, rooted stock was definitely the easiest. It's the easiest to get working. For me' froyo was still not completely usable as it doesn't include Gapps and it's kinda funky getting them on there. Then nothing really works on honeycomb (and by that I mean downloaded apps) so if you just want to browse the interwebs that's the one for you. Froyo is if you want everything Android offers, but you better know what you"re doing. So IMO stock is the easiest and the prettiest, with honeycomb being second, and Froyo being third.
I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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yo, deadly, chill down a bit...nook is very hard to brick and destroy..
Since OP is here, on XDA, I suppose he knows enough to continue...
It is not so hard, trust me, pick one and try, you can start witk stock rooted...Then you will find annoying the way apps are starting, or eclair itself...So, you go and try froyo (on emmc, ofcourse), which is the closest thing to phone froyo feeling, and you'll use it happily until...One day you decide to try something new, and that would be HC...
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I can't speak to Froyo, but I've got the HC v04 preview running on eMMC (not SD card), and for me it is very stable.
I've got access to the market, apps seem to install fine (haven't had one fail yet, but I hear some do), and B&N works great.
Even better, the kernal included in the package I used was already OC'd to 1.1Mhz, and I'm consistently getting 1,500 to 1,600 on Quadrant.
Much better performance than I was getting on my stock Nook.
It's not perfect, and I've had to do a few tweaks (found on this site) in order to get the market working, and adhock wireless networks to show up...but for me the total install was really smooth.
The only problem I currently have is that I cannot get applications to transfer from eMMC to my SD card, so I'm running out of space to install more apps.
No way would I go back to stock...what I've got now works really well for everyday use, and will only get netter once Honeycomb goes GA.
If you do decide to "upgrade" your stock Nook, just remember that it's not a "sure deal", and that there are no guarantees things will work. While I haven't had to do so, I understand that restoring your Nook to stock is a bit of a chore, so make sure you read the "back to stock" threads before you decide to modify your Nook.
If you do decide to go with either Froyo or HC...just remember to follow instructions exactly!
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Out of curiosity, what do you mean that B&N works great? Are you just talking about the Nook app from the market, or the stock B&N apps that come with the Nook when you first get it. I was under the assumption that those would be lost with any install of Honeycomb or Froyo, which has kept me from making that jump.
im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
@deadly read thru the emmc thread, the answer is there. Root explorer change permissions.
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im leaning toward HC cuz i dont mind difficult because i enjoy doing this kind of stuff but my worry is widgets and a few apps has anyone used circle launcher or gbcoid or gameboid or any other emulator on this?
edit: also any luck on videos working? like rockplayer or yxplayer?
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As far as I know none of the alternate builds currently support hardware-accelerated video playback, so your only real option for smooth fullscreen video is the (rooted or not) B&N Nook image. If anyone has gotten this working on a different build please let us know.
Honeycomb has a few issues, for example accelerometer input being rotated 90% in some games, and occasionally tiny hard-to-read onscreen text since it's configured for a non-native pixel density to fit the 1280x800 UI on the Nook's smaller screen. It's fun for testing and ok as a daily environment if your important apps all happen to work, but you should expect things to break.
By "B&N works great", I meant that I'm running the B&N reader from the market. Personally I like it better than the stock Nook reader.
@djurkash: As you say, "It's not so hard...", I was up and running in an hour or so. Sorry if you felt I was trying to scare anyone away. I really like what I've got...but I have also noted a bit of "HC mania", and not everyone bothers to RTFM. If someone reads through this site, and feels comfortable with the process...I hope they go for it! I'm glad I did.
@jonrobertd: I'd read through the emmc thread, and didn't see anything that addressed moving apps. I just went back through and searched on "Root Explorer" and "permissions", but didn't see anything that looked like it would help. I'm probably missing something obvious, but any assistance you could offer would be greatly appreciated (I do have Root Explorer installed and working).
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Rockplayer works well , NESoid works well, gonnna try pSX tonight.
Honey 4 on emmc.
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@jonrobertd, I just tried Rockplayer on HC v4 off SD (not overclocked), it runs at 12-15fps according to its built-in counter for original size, a bit slower for fullscreen video ([email protected], baseline H264 from Handbrake). Is that significantly better with the overclocked version? Currently it's usable but looks noticeably jerky. Of course, dual-booting to use the stock player would be a fallback option.
I have only had my nook now for 4 days so I am in no way going to put down any build. But from a new users opinion I have installed and messed with all three releases (stock rooted) (froyo) (honeycomb) And I LOVED honeycomb.
I was happy with it for a short time though due to no flash. Youtube app was a no go and the web youtube worked but was whacky.
I then went back to stock rooted and put on ADW ex. Everything just works! I am completely happy with stock running ADW until honeycomb gets more refined.
And I cant wait for that to happen because it looks very nice and is a much better user experience on the nook.
Rockplayer is much better off of eMMC and overclocked. As to running HC off SD I
can see it being slower, as the card speeds can vary.
For root explorer, I am using version 2.13.3 it works to give R/W permissions. (PM me if needed)
Apps installing to SD, use the following:
Also I follow Samuelhaff's advice and change the permissions on newsf_msdos on the /system/bin and now almost all applications install with few fails. I did it a risky way though, since I don't have ADB access I just rightclicked the file with Root Explorer, chose permissions and click in all 9 boxes, worked for me but it may be risky.
Doing this gave the me option to move to SD. I have ADB working, was just on the nook so I did it with R.E. and it worked.
If you need any more help pm me or ask here.
I have used all three (rooted stock, Nookie Froyo, and Honeycomb v4), and I am currently using a dual boot setup with stock on eMMC and NF on a microSD card. I am using rookie1's awesome multi-u-boot which allows me to choose to boot from either the SD or the eMMC at startup by pressing the home button. Stock is good for daily use, and NF is good for more cutting-edge stuff (Flash being one example). I'll probably use Honeycomb once the biggest bugs are ironed out, which will probably be after HC goes AOSP. In any case, the Nook Color has three great operating systems that you can choose from. It can't hurt to try, even if you decide to burn to eMMC instead of running off an SDcard the Nook Color is [very] hard to brick.
I just installed Sam's custom HC for emmc last night and I have to say that this is my favorite of the three options. It runs much smoother than I expected. Overall, I was not a big fan of froyo, the performance for the most part was great but I always had touch issues and keyboard lag.
1.) Sam's custom HC v4
2.) Rooted Stock 1.1
3.) Nookie Froyo emmc
I like the stock rom better, easier to root too. I've tried the HC on SD works fine but harder to setup for new nookies
i went ahead and went with HC last night and it is great so smooth and so clean the lock screen alone is just so nice, although i wish it had flash and rock player plays really choppy on my .avi anime but thats ok i can watch it on my phone. thanx guys for all you help and suggestions anyone that wants to post suggestions please do im sure there are people just like me looking for the awnsers this topic can provide
I've had my NC for a few weeks now am itching to try Froyo or Honeycomb. Something that is important to me though is the Readtome childrens books. My 3 year old really likes them. Does the market B&N appt work with these books? If not, is there a way to still use them on either Froyo or Hobeycomb (HC preferred)?
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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As far as I can tell the Read To Me books only work on the app on the NC. But that's no reason not to try Froyo or HC. Just try one of the SD image versions. That's what I've been doing. Booting off SD doesn't affect whatever you have loaded on the internal memory. Going back to the B&N stock ROM is just as simple as powering down your NC, popping out the bootable SD card, popping back in your regular SD card (if you have one) and powering the NC back on.
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I did not know you can do that with the SD card. Im going to see about doing that when I get home. Thanks.
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Ok. I finally got a Nook Color, rooted it using AutoNooter 3 and played around with Honeycomb. Now, I got some questions:
1. Can I watch Hulu on the Nook Color?
If I am not mistaken this will require flash and flash is only available on Froyo. Is that correct? Will Hulu run on Froyo?
2. Why is YouTube/Flash/Hulu not available on phiremod or HC?
I am guessing on HC it is not available because it is not based on source code? But what is the problem with phiremod?
3. I understand that some ROMs can be flashed. So far I only tried to run ROMs from my SD card. In the past it used to be a problem that devices can only be flashed so and so often. Is that still the case?
I searched the forum, but my questions were not fully answered.
Thanks for your time!
Cheers,
Jens
Looks like nobody had the time to answer my questions or maybe I just asked too many...
Meanwhile, I could answer some of my questions on my own:
1. Can I watch Hulu on the Nook Color?
Maybe. I got Flash to work on Froyo, but Hulu checks for Android and blocks access. The solution seems to be a browser called Skyfire and I can find it as an Android application using Google, but it doesn't show up in my marketplace application.
Not sure how to proceed from there...
2. Why is YouTube/Flash/Hulu not available on phiremod or HC?
It seems that on HC flash hasn't been published yet and/or it is not compatible with the "re-engineered" version running on Nook Color.
Still no clue why it doesn't work on phiremod...
3. I understand that some ROMs can be flashed. So far I only tried to run ROMs from my SD card. In the past it used to be a problem that devices can only be flashed so and so often. Is that still the case?
Does anybody know the answer???
Cheers,
Jens
Youtube is not working yet on HC or GB based ROMs because the hardware DSP drivers are not finished and that is needed to decode video.
The useful lifecycles for the internal flash memory in moden devices should far exceed your ability to flash new ROMs so nothing to worry about, flash to your hearts content.
Phiremod is based off of CM7, so whatever doesnt work im CM7 generally doesnt work in phiremod, The youtube thing is baiscally what the guy above me said, DSP drivers.
Yeah, flash away. I've done it so many times I've lost count. The nook is great for learning how to do that stuff.
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Hey another noob here I know that you can get hulu to work on nookiefroyo i think i googled android flash and there was a patched flash and another app that allowed it to work. I ran this off an sd card and the hulu experience was abysmal but it did work this was with a non oced kernel though
Thanks for all the replies. I will go ahead and flash my nook tonight.
I got flash working, but how did you get around the android hulu check? I mean I am reading that Skyfire can do it, but Skyfire doesn't show up in the Market application.
Anyhow, I guess we are still early in the game and so we will probably still see some big improvements in the near future.
Cheers,
Jens
yeah, I too would like to know how you got Hulu working? as for Skyfire, last time I checked Hulu blocked that browser completely (as it was working for a while). I could be wrong and they may have changed Skyfire to work again.
Use the dolphin browser. It has the ability to pretend to be another device, including a desktop.
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Use the dolphin browser. It has the ability to pretend to be another device, including a desktop.
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Hulu detects OS not just browser, therefore changing dolphin browser to desktop does nothing for hulu.
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Hulu detects OS not just browser, therefore changing dolphin browser to desktop does nothing for hulu.
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There is a hulu "app" for certain 2.2 phones. This might be something to look into though I admit I've only used it and I don't know the technical background of it.
Hulu and Netflix are the last two things I really want on Android, but I also understand why we may never see support on the Nook (not only is the nook not officially a tablet, but it also will now be considered older technology)
how exactly do i flash this zip file in this thread to my NC?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=965023
Hi All,
Devs and Members,
I have recently purchased the NC for my wife as a plain ol' e-reader, but after reading about rooting and all the cool stuff you can do with it I have been testing it out on the NC we have. I have to say I am impressed, not bad for buying the NC for $200 off of Craigslist. SO after reading for days on this awesome forum, I took a leap an jump right into rooting the NC using auto-nooter 3.0.0. After a few days of messing with around with it, I installed Nookie Froyo 6.8 emm 3 last night. WOW what a difference it is now compared to when we just got it. I havent had any issues with it, but if there is any opinions or advice on what apps to install next or what should I try next.....please feel free to leave me some comments. I will happily try it out and post some feed back as well as giving you thanks for your thanks meters!!!
Thanks In Advance
Ray.
Well now that you no longer have any of the NC B&N Apps I suggest getting some eReader Apps.
-Nook App (If you want Nook Books, but Magazines and Kid Books won't work)
-Kindle App (If you have Kindle Books or Mobi books)
-Aldiko App (For Reading PDFs and EPUB, also supports Adobe DRM so you can get Library eBooks)
-Titanium Backup App & Buy the Pro Key (For Batch Backup/Restore of Apps and Settings in case an App update brakes an App or you Switched ROMs)
That's a Good Start.
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HI,
The NC is my first real eBook reader - and one of the most useful/interesting
apps is an opensource PC/MAC program Calibre - and eBook library management
utility. It will download covers, reviews and convert many formats. It will also
d/l to your device etc. See: http://calibre-ebook.com/
There is a (paid) app in the library that can link to Calibre as well: "Calibre Library",
but you can also use other tools with Calibre to get your eBooks onto device.
Not mentioned above is FBreader, another eBook reader app. which has a syncing
tool available on the market: FBSync, to keep bookmarks and books in sync - useful
when you are trying different ROMs.
ROM: Cyanogenmod7 (Gingerbread) nightlies work very well for me.
I use Button Savior as my soft key application, it has worked well for me. The
on screen buttons are quiet reading in bed at night.
I bought Repligo for PDF reading, the text reflow seems to work 'ok' for me, but
NC is not an ideal PDF reader.
Peter
japzone said:
Well now that you no longer have any of the NC B&N Apps I suggest getting some eReader Apps.
-Nook App (If you want Nook Books, but Magazines and Kid Books won't work)
-Kindle App (If you have Kindle Books or Mobi books)
-Aldiko App (For Reading PDFs and EPUB, also supports Adobe DRM so you can get Library eBooks)
-Titanium Backup App & Buy the Pro Key (For Batch Backup/Restore of Apps and Settings in case an App update brakes an App or you Switched ROMs)
That's a Good Start.
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Thanks.....already have the nook app since the wife has purchased a few books from there. Will give the others a try just to see if there is a difference in reading material. I usually download pdf magazines does this aldiko app work well for this? Again thanks for you replies!!
pmilford said:
HI,
The NC is my first real eBook reader - and one of the most useful/interesting
apps is an opensource PC/MAC program Calibre - and eBook library management
utility. It will download covers, reviews and convert many formats. It will also
d/l to your device etc.
There is a (paid) app in the library that can link to Calibre as well: "Calibre Library",
but you can also use other tools with Calibre to get your eBooks onto device.
Not mentioned above is FBreader, another eBook reader app. which has a syncing
tool available on the market: FBSync, to keep bookmarks and books in sync - useful
when you are trying different ROMs.
ROM: Cyanogenmod7 (Gingerbread) nightlies work very well for me.
I use Button Savior as my soft key application, it has worked well for me. The
on screen buttons are quiet reading in bed at night.
I bought Repligo for PDF reading, the text reflow seems to work 'ok' for me, but
NC is not an ideal PDF reader.
Peter
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You know I am pretty interested in this Cyanogenmod7 but does it work well? are the devs still ironing out some wrinkles with this ROM? Gingerbread....so this is android 2.3? Is there a way to speed up the NC......maybe overclock?!?!?
HI,
Yes Cyanogenmod 7 works well, even though they haven't released the stable
final release yet. Weak areas are video playback and battery life. Both sound like
they will improve. The Phiremod version based on CM7 is a bit easier.
There are over-clock kernels for all versions of Nook Android, see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451
Peter
rican199 said:
Thanks.....already have the nook app since the wife has purchased a few books from there. Will give the others a try just to see if there is a difference in reading material. I usually download pdf magazines does this aldiko app work well for this? Again thanks for you replies!!
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Aldiko works fine. It supports Zooming too.
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the CyanogenMod 7 (CM7) ROM comes with an overclocked Kernel, once you start it up you can go into their options and up it to 925mhz, which makes this thing run GREAT! Also, battery life isn't bad. If you use it mainly as a reading device (meaning wifi off, bluetooth off, screen fairly bright), it will last you I'd say 8 hours MINIMUM, if you're doing other things, I'd still say it'll last you 6 hours (this, of course, is actual usage time. I only charge mine very other day or every 3 days)
I love Aldiko and it is my preferred reader. The problem is epub is not as popular as it once was. I've actually heard that many amazon books do NOT have DRM and, therefore, can be easily converted to ePub via Calibre. Check out my full post (and ever growing post) about the Nook as an eBook reader in the App's and Themes forum.
Also, B&N has said that they are working on making the Nook app better to include magazine support among other things.
OK, so today I am going to flash the internal memory and install CyanogenMod 7. Is it safe to just overwrite the nookie froyo 0.6.8 I have installed or must I first bring the nook back to system default, then root it again and then install CyanogenMod 7? So any ideas which mod to install, or should I say which one has the least quirks to fix....lol If there is an easy step by step guide anyone can recommend I will go ahead and review before making the jump
Thanks again everyone....truly a great site when your lost in the clouds!!
rican199 said:
OK, so today I am going to flash the internal memory and install CyanogenMod 7. Is it safe to just overwrite the nookie froyo 0.6.8 I have installed or must I first bring the nook back to system default, then root it again and then install CyanogenMod 7? So any ideas which mod to install, or should I say which one has the least quirks to fix....lol If there is an easy step by step guide anyone can recommend I will go ahead and review before making the jump
Thanks again everyone....truly a great site when your lost in the clouds!!
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Flash it right over it, no big deal. Just make sure to follow the directions and do a full system wipe from inside CWM. I also throw my vote in that CM7 is great. I never read mazagines or newspapers from BN so the standard nook app off the market works great. Also, make sure to get the gapps zip because you will need to flash that after the nightly if you want to have the google market.
cyanogen wiki: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide
A really easy way to get this process going is to use the following bootable CWM SD card, load the zips on there and flash away : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959240
Thanks For the links "very informative" a well written guide. But no instructions for windows install....I mean is it the same as installing nookie froyo 0.6.8? Just burn on the sd card, turn off the nook color, and insert to sd card?
rican199 said:
Thanks For the links "very informative" a well written guide. But no instructions for windows install....I mean is it the same as installing nookie froyo 0.6.8? Just burn on the sd card, turn off the nook color, and insert to sd card?
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If you go the route of using a live CWM sd card, you make it the same way you make the original SD to root the nook, I think it's winimage or something along those lines as the windows program to make it. Just make sure you download the correct CWM for that SD card size.
I'll try and condense the steps as best as possible, but please read all the guides linked to get more information
1. Download the newest Cyanogen nightly from the website I posted, download the newest google apps zip, and download the correct CWM live SD card for the size of the card you're using
2. On windows use Win32DiskImage to create a live CWM mod sd
3. Place the nightly.zip and gapps.zip on the sd card
4.turn off nc, place the sd in nc, when you turn it on it will boot into cwm
5. use CWM to wipe the data on the NC
5. Choose install zip from sd card
6. install nightly zip
7. install gapps zip
turn off nc, when you turn it back on you're on cm7
also this is a link to the gapps
http://go.redirectingat.com/?id=162...installed-cm7-now-i-dont-have-market-app.html
HI,
Another walk through of installing CM7:
Long CM7 install description: (slightly dated now)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&postcount=151
Peter
Man you guys keep amazing everyday with your help. I will do that today and post my results here.
Thanks again!!
Your help is truly appreciated!
UPDATE!!
Well installed CM7 nightly from 3/26, installed GAPPS, and also installed the updates OC Kernel w/fixed IO Pref. and it works awesome.....overclocked to 1100mhz and its way faster than when I first got it!!! Amazing.
Long story short: I bought my Nook to root it. I'm not a complete moron, but I'm a little overwhelmed by all of the options for modifying the Nook. I have tons of iOS experience since I have an iPhone business on the side, so I'm not afraid to mess around with something.
The problem is, the only Android device I've spent more than 20 minutes with is the Samsung Captivate, which was ridiculously easy to root and then unlock so I could sell it.
Other than that, not much Android experience.
I bought the Nook because I need a portable device to view documents and the occasional entertainment. I'm a pilot and instantly recognized the advantage of being able to take aviation publications with me everywhere, including the cockpit. I considered the iPad since I'm intimately familiar with iOS, but the cost was a little higher than I wanted to go.
So, here's what I need: a VERY stable Nook that can efficiently read PDF files, H.264 movies and still maintain respectable battery life. I will be heading overseas with less than dependable access to internet, so I need something that's pretty worry-free since I might not be able to worry with finding a fix online.
Where to start?
I've already rooted it using AutoNooter, but it seems wonky at best. The N button rarely works at all and SoftKeys isn't much help either. I currently haven't found a way to go "back" in the Market app, and still haven't figured out how to sign in on my YouTube account.
So, what are your suggestions for setup? Please be detailed with your suggestions and save the flaming for someone who cares.
Thanks!
I didn't like the stock rom either...
I went immdiatly to nookie froyo, which is the most stable rom other then stock.
You should try it.
You should also try cm7 and it varients, but those are less stable.
you can check out the tutorials on remapping the volume keys for back and menu, although I find soft keys a valiable option.
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
LongbowFoSho said:
Can you point me to the best method of install for Froyo? Is it better on internal or keeping it on the SD card? I'm not worried about warranty or restoring the stock ROM, so which one is best overall?
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Try it on the SD card first, just to start. If you screw up, you can just format the card and start over, it's relatively pain free that way. But it will run a little snappier on the actual Nook eMMC, but you can always do that later.
Another factor is that B&N will be updating all Nook Colors to Froyo in April. If you run off an SD card until then, then you can root the Nook after that update (with new Autonooter built for that new update), and you will have a more stable Froyo since it will be a professional kernel built for the hardware.
You'll need a Sandisk Class 4 or 6 uSD card or a Transcend Class 6 (unless you have already bought something, in which go ahead and try that card).
The build is at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
Yeah......about that "don't flash the internal memory" part.....
Everything went great until I rebooted and now its stuck at the Android screen with the flashing cursor.
Now I'm just trying to figure out how to restore it. Ugh.
I'm using a 32GB SanDisk SDHC Class 6 card, BTW.
EDIT: Well, I was able to get the build from your link running from the SD card, but all of the processes suddenly and continually fail. All I get is pop up after pop up about errors.
I'm done screwing around with this for today. If I can't get something usable by tomorrow night, I'm selling this POS and getting an iPad. This isn't worth it just to save $100.
I don't know what all you did to the internal memory, but chances are this will work to get back to stock.
http://nookdevs.com/Flash_back_to_clean_stock_ROM
If that doesn't work then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=945838
Softkeys works, and I use it, but it's...not intuitive...this page made things clear for me. Reading through this should get your n key working and whatnot.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Default_Launcher
Disabling the service in the softkeys settings was good for me. That stupid little button was always in the wrong place no matter where I put it and wasn't useful anyhow. I also didn't install home switcher or whatever. If you get your n button set wrong, you can just clear the defaults from the app settings for whatever app is set to the n button.
Sounds like you got it rooted and everything, but here is a link for reference anyhow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=942424
A note on those instructions: youtube did nothing but crash on me. The purpose of logging in with youtube is to get your device linked to your google account so you can get into the market. I didn't use youtube, i think i used gmail or the market itself or something. I don't remember. I just uninstalled youtube, you don't need it. Youtube video's still download and play in the default video player if you visit youtube.com from the web browser.
As far as your options for operating systems. I haven't used froyo, and haven't spent much time with honeycomb, so grain of salt and stuff. Plus it really depends on what you need/want.
Note: after booting a fresh burn for the first time, just walk away for five minutes. I'm not sure why (maybe something to do with the not quite jit doing it's thing?), but it will be more stable if you do.
Froyo gives flash and slightly better performance over stock. I think video is on par with stock, but it could be worse, i'm not sure. It's almost certainly not better. I can't speak for stability, as I haven't tried it. I think bluetooth is possible but not realistic? I know occip got the chip responding, but I haven't seen anything indicating it's useable. Links in previous posts so i won't make another.
Cyanogenmod gives all that froyo gives plus bluetooth support. Video framerate is poor (movies, not games and whatnot). Stability isn't as good as stock. Mostly it's fine but every once in a while things start force closing like mad and i have to reboot. Also battery life isn't good with cyanogenmod. Sleep has been disabled as there is a bug with it. It will still last over a day without a charge though. It's what i use day to day. Really amazing and fast moving. Seems like every day a new major bug is fixed or a whole new piece of hardware is working. Linkie:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
Honeycomb is really cool and it's amazing what deeperblue did (without much source omgwat?) but it's still kinda just a toy until google releases all the source code. No flash, no hardware accelerated video, no bluetooth, no reason to use it, other than aesthetics. Annoying ui glitches in portrait mode. Neat and worth an sd burn to play with, but not for using day to day in my opinion.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=936995
Of course there is no need to choose one! There are a couple option for multibooting in the forums and I intend to get around to combining a few to triple boot. Right now this is what I use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947698
I'm set up to boot rooted stock off internal memory and cm7 off of uSD
P.S. If you just want it to work and be a full tablet it might be worth the extra $150 or so for an IPad. The nook has been fantastically useful for my needs and I don't think i've had this much fun with a piece of kit since my first apple II. On the other hand I've wasted a fair number of hours reading about and "bricking" the thing so...ymmv depending on what your needs/wants are.
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
Can you elaborate on "can't change permissions"? Can you not find the option, or are you making the change and its not working?
For your clockwork upgrade question, is your recovery internal, or on a bootable SD?
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Thanks for the detailed response, ylixir. I'm attempting to go back to stock now and will definitely try your suggestions.
I'm still going to try Nookie since the general consensus is that it's the most stable. I don't care about BT or even Flash since I'll just be using this mostly for mobile document viewing in Afghanistan.
Thanks again and will update with my results.
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
LongbowFoSho said:
I know you're new and all, but generally its considered rude to jump into someone else's thread and ask your own question. You'll probably get a lot more visibility (and subsequently a solution to your problem) by making your own thread.
Thanks!
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Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, I've got it back to stock 1.1 now. I'm VERY happy to see that since I still might sell this thing if I can't make some headway with a usable ROM.
danger-rat said:
Dude! The forum rules tell you to search and piggyback existing threads before making your own thread. The idea is that the closely related information is localized, and searching is made much more easier without having multiple threads on the same subject...
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Well, this is the first forum I've ever seen that operates that way.
Well, just tried running Froyo from the SD card and it just sits at the Android splash screen (the animated one). It also did this last night, but I thought it was because of the non-functional Froyo I had flashed internally.
I guess I'll give HC a shot to see if anything actually works on this device.
Just ran HC and although I finally got past the "decrypted data" error (after three re-images and flashing, no less), I dunno.
I'm going to try rooting the stock 1.1 again and see how that goes. If I can't get comfortable with that, then I'm done. I have better things to do besides sitting around for hours and hours trying to get something to be remotely practical for every day use.
If I wanted a tinkering project, I'd buy an old car.
Autonooker is super easy to get the stock ROM working as an Android tablet.
I'm sure it's stated on the wiki that Nookie Froyo and other ROMs are in development and not meant for stable systems.
Anyway, hope Autonooker works for you
Good news! Looks like perseverence pays off because rooting 1.1 seems to have worked perfectly this time.
I am fully signed in on YouTube and email, and all the buttons are working properly.
Now that I've finally gotten that out of the way, is there a way to OC the stock ROM? Its not really a need, just curious LOL. I've seen SetCPU mentioned a few times, but IIRC its intended for 2.2 and up only. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, best PDF reader for stock ROM?
chef123 said:
Hi, Im new here, too.
Id like to do this "Go back in Root Explorer, and in system/app, mount as r-w and rename Phone.apk and TelephonyProvider.apk to anything else (adding .bak onto the end would be fine)." But I can't change the permission...
Even I do habe only CWM 3.0.0.6 and like to have the newest one (3.0.1.0) and Iam using right now the Phirmod V5.1
Has anyone some hinds? Cheers
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Get a Terminal Emulator from the Market. Now type in the following:
If running off SD
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk1p2 /system
If running off EMMC
Code:
su
mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/mmcblk0p5 /system
Hope this helps.
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Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
LongbowFoSho said:
Everything I'm installing doesn't show up on the Extras page. If I want to open FB or Dolphin or something like that, I have to search for it.
A little help?
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Install a new launcher, such as Zeam, Launcher Pro, or ADW. I prefer Zeam myself. Then you'll be able to immediately see new apps you've installed.
Hi All,
First post! I just got a Nook Color from the Overstock sale and bought two as gifts for my mom and gf. I figured I'll learn all the tricks and how-to's on mine and be able to help them Christmas day. So far, I got myself a SanDisk 16GB Class 4, followed koopakid's awesome tutorial and have successfully installed the latest RC version of CM7. I ran into a bit of trouble getting the Google Apps to install, (just wound up manually adding Gmail from marketplace), and am really happy. But I have a few questions from where to go from here...
After getting CM7 off the SD card, how can I add files to the additional 15GB or so of unused data? And is it possible to do so without constantly removing my card?
I thought I read somewhere to "lock your screen" or something to prevent lag, but what does that mean?
Is it possible to download an app on my PC and install it to the Nook?
What's the best app/settings to tweak a rooted Nook?
I don't mean to be "that guy", but I didn't see a general help thing and don't understand some of the stuff I was reading earlier. Any help and advice is appreciated!
DlickSeals said:
After getting CM7 off the SD card, how can I add files to the additional 15GB or so of unused data? And is it possible to do so without constantly removing my card?
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Yes, just plug your Nook into your computer via USB and then select the option in your status bar to mount as USB. It should pop up on your computer as 2 different drives one for your SD card and one for EEMC.
[*]I thought I read somewhere to "lock your screen" or something to prevent lag, but what does that mean?
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Hmm, never heard of this and I have no idea what it means.
[*]Is it possible to download an app on my PC and install it to the Nook?
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Yes, just download the apk file and then either transfer it over and use a file explorer to install or just email it to yourself/use dropbox.
[*]What's the best app/settings to tweak a rooted Nook?
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I'm not really sure what you want here but I would suggest getting a new browser such as Opera or Dolphin first. Another good app to have is Nook Screen Recalibrate for when your screen get a little wonky.
For reading I use Aldiko.
For watch videos I use Mobo Player
And if you haven't yet download tge Amazon Appstore for a free app every day.
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Thank you KK! I'm definitely going to trying moving stuff on there once I get home! So far, the only thing I did was go through the Android Marketplace to get the Dolphin Browser earlier, but was hesitant on any of the other apps like e-Reader stuff, (heard great things about Aldiko), music, and videos.
As far as that lock screen, I have to find that post. It know it mentioned something about the screen behaving laggy or something if not locked when putting it down. That or I could be way off and misread it.
One last question: I got 2 more Nooks as presents and don't want to open them, but would it be possible to follow the same basic install using SD on my Nook and simply including those pre-made cards in the unopened Nooks or does this stuff have to be done Nook by Nook so to speak?
DlickSeals said:
Thank you KK! I'm definitely going to trying moving stuff on there once I get home! So far, the only thing I did was go through the Android Marketplace to get the Dolphin Browser earlier, but was hesitant on any of the other apps like e-Reader stuff, (heard great things about Aldiko), music, and videos.
As far as that lock screen, I have to find that post. It know it mentioned something about the screen behaving laggy or something if not locked when putting it down. That or I could be way off and misread it.
One last question: I got 2 more Nooks as presents and don't want to open them, but would it be possible to follow the same basic install using SD on my Nook and simply including those pre-made cards in the unopened Nooks or does this stuff have to be done Nook by Nook so to speak?
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Yes, the cards are not specific to one Nook so you can go ahead and make them before.
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So… I went ahead and tried some tweaking. And now I think my stupid is showing.
I was browsing some apps and figured I’d give the Nook Color Tweak one a go since it’s specifically made for rooted NC’s. After I downloaded & installed it, I noticed I can’t overclock the CPU, (heard it’s stable even at 1GHz) or enable USB Host Mode (so I can drag-n-drop eBooks and app files while the NC is connected to a PC). Apparently I need the “Dalingrin's OC kernel”. And that’s where I got intimidated.
I was thinking about this and I think I’m having two “issues”: 1) I’m not sure how to continue tweaking the NC and 2) since this is my first introduction to Android, I think I need to bang through some tutorials and guides for the OS itself before getting myself overwhelmed with the NC stuff. Time to research…
DlickSeals said:
So… I went ahead and tried some tweaking. And now I think my stupid is showing.
I was browsing some apps and figured I’d give the Nook Color Tweak one a go since it’s specifically made for rooted NC’s. After I downloaded & installed it, I noticed I can’t overclock the CPU, (heard it’s stable even at 1GHz) or enable USB Host Mode (so I can drag-n-drop eBooks and app files while the NC is connected to a PC). Apparently I need the “Dalingrin's OC kernel”. And that’s where I got intimidated.
I was thinking about this and I think I’m having two “issues”: 1) I’m not sure how to continue tweaking the NC and 2) since this is my first introduction to Android, I think I need to bang through some tutorials and guides for the OS itself before getting myself overwhelmed with the NC stuff. Time to research…
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First off what CM version are you using? Dal's overclock kernel is included in the latest 7.1 stable.
Also, USB host mode is not dragging and dropping enabling its for connecting USB devices like flash drives to the Nook. To enable dragging and dropping on your computer just plug it in via USB and then select the option to mount as USB.
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Where is the icon for me slamming my head agains the wall? Or wearing a dunce cap? That's not at all what I was thinking the USB mount thing meant. I.D.I.O.T.
As far as the Kernel, I'm actually using the RC 7.1 from the instructions. Everything I read mentioned that it was included which is a large part of why I'm a bit confused on that stuff.
DlickSeals said:
Where is the icon for me slamming my head agains the wall? Or wearing a dunce cap? That's not at all what I was thinking the USB mount thing meant. I.D.I.O.T.
As far as the Kernel, I'm actually using the RC 7.1 from the instructions. Everything I read mentioned that it was included which is a large part of why I'm a bit confused on that stuff.
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I'm pretty certain that the kernel was added around nightly 150 whitch is after the RC release. Updating is a pretty simple procedure.
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Thanks KK! I did some searching for a nightly and how to flash, but I'm actually thinking about just starting from scratch if only for reference. Since I'm giving 2 as gifts this Christmas, I'd like to have a little handy document & files on a thumbdrive I can follow and get this going. I'm thinking about starting from scratch with a nightly in place of a RC and going from there.
Now I just need to figure a PDF reader that allows me to pinch-zoom.
DlickSeals said:
Thanks KK! I did some searching for a nightly and how to flash, but I'm actually thinking about just starting from scratch if only for reference. Since I'm giving 2 as gifts this Christmas, I'd like to have a little handy document & files on a thumbdrive I can follow and get this going. I'm thinking about starting from scratch with a nightly in place of a RC and going from there.
Now I just need to figure a PDF reader that allows me to pinch-zoom.
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EZ PDF reader is what I use.
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