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Hello everyone,
I currently have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) and, since I'm changing my phone operator, I have the opportunity to have a brand new phone at low cost, and I chose the Kaiser.
BUT, reading a little bit forum like these, i falled on the issue of the "missing" hardware acceleration of the graphic chip.
What I am looking for is:
* Having the same video quality with my Wizard (TCPMP, under WM5, i'm totally satisfied and I downsample my videos, i won't be annoyed to do the same).
* Having at least the same other capability that I use (PocketOffice, WIFI/GSM etc... Web browsing ...)
* HAVING A "REAL" KEYBOARD (not on screen only)
Do you think I should buy something else ? What should i look to ?
Thank in advance and sorry for my frenchy english
acidbao said:
Hello everyone,
I currently have a Qtek 9100 (Wizard) and, since I'm changing my phone operator, I have the opportunity to have a brand new phone at low cost, and I chose the Kaiser.
BUT, reading a little bit forum like these, i falled on the issue of the "missing" hardware acceleration of the graphic chip.
What I am looking for is:
* Having the same video quality with my Wizard (TCPMP, under WM5, i'm totally satisfied and I downsample my videos, i won't be annoyed to do the same).
* Having at least the same other capability that I use (PocketOffice, WIFI/GSM etc... Web browsing ...)
* HAVING A "REAL" KEYBOARD (not on screen only)
Do you think I should buy something else ? What should i look to ?
Thank in advance and sorry for my frenchy english
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Apart from the Video acceleration driver, Kaiser is great. I think soon there will be an accelerated driver available, so Kaiser will be finally the best
gabriel31337 said:
Apart from the Video acceleration driver, Kaiser is great. I think soon there will be an accelerated driver available, so Kaiser will be finally the best
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I hope you are right(about the driver).
All the screaming for hw video accelaration is somewhat out of proportions. With a cooked ROM, configured for performance, the Kaiser is a fast efficient and well-working unit.
You can playback livestreamed youtube videos perfectly with TCMP, high-resolution and bitrate content such as movies won't run smooth unless you downsample them to a more fitting resolution and bitrate. Then they'll playback ok, unless you're an audio/videophile.
As for graphic performance, ported old classics such as Quake and Duke3D runs ok with framerates of 30+ with no problems. All kinds of 2D-games works just fine. Of course, really hefty modern 3D-stuff will give you more problems.
All in all I find the Kaiser a great device with a fantastic community that will probably keep it "alive" in terms of modding, ROMs, tweaks and hacks for a good while into the future. What bugs people, is the fact that it got a great potential hardwarewise thats not fully utilized at the moment, particularly due to the lack of those drivers.
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Mikulec said:
I hope you are right(about the driver).
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Me too
So the video will never be worst than a Wizard ? Ok
Do you think I should wait like for one month if HTC does the jerk and release a new generation Kaiser with HW acceleration that will not be available on current releases ?
Finally, i don't want to be offensive toward all to your great jobs done on ROM modding (i actually mod everything i have, my routers, my iRiver etc...) but will the performance acceptable if I don't intent to take that risk (actually i will try to mod my old wizard first when i get the Kaiser) ?
M4cr0s said:
All the screaming for hw video accelaration is somewhat out of proportions. With a cooked ROM, configured for performance, the Kaiser is a fast efficient and well-working unit.
You can playback livestreamed youtube videos perfectly with TCMP, high-resolution and bitrate content such as movies won't run smooth unless you downsample them to a more fitting resolution and bitrate. Then they'll playback ok, unless you're an audio/videophile.
As for graphic performance, ported old classics such as Quake and Duke3D runs ok with framerates of 30+ with no problems. All kinds of 2D-games works just fine. Of course, really hefty modern 3D-stuff will give you more problems.
All in all I find the Kaiser a great device with a fantastic community that will probably keep it "alive" in terms of modding, ROMs, tweaks and hacks for a good while into the future. What bugs people, is the fact that it got a great potential hardwarewise thats not fully utilized at the moment, particularly due to the lack of those drivers.
/Mac
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I agree that kaiser is great, I like him too, but I will like him more if he is like he was supposed to be.
btw you forgot the camera issue
Mikulec said:
I agree that kaiser is great, I like him too, but I will like him more if he is like he was supposed to be.
btw you forgot the camera issue
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True that, the Kaiser camera isn't that great, but its not that bad either. Depends a lot on your preferences i.e. do you expect a mobile phone kind of camera or a semi-standalone camera like the dedicated cameraphones of SE and to a lesser extent Nokia, Samsung and LG.
Personally I found that taking pic's when the cam is set to 1 megapixel, brightnes to -1, -1,5 or -2 works way better than in 2 and 3 megapixel resolutions Its faster, better with light and produces 1280x960 pic's thats mostly ok for normal computer use. That said, you don't buy a Kaiser if you want a standalone-camera replacer.
The camera can probably be considerabely improved by ROM-upgrades, hardware video accelaration and better camera software.
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That said, you don't buy a Kaiser if you want a standalone-camera replacer.
The camera can probably be considerabely improved by ROM-upgrades, hardware video accelaration and better camera software.
/Mac
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yes, I agree. But when you want to make a quick picture of something, it is almost impossible. But for steady pics its ok.
Hi. So it it some time since Diamond is in our pockets. Thanks to this community we have fast ROMs, we can play smooth VGA video, and we have good battery time and wi-fi,GPS,GPRS,EDGE,UMTS reception. And, we CAN use hardware 3D accelerator. So, what we made, what some amazing people here made is a damn progress!
So, I think there is only one thing to solve - Camera.
Well all know, that Diamond has WM devices normal quality camera. But, there is big problem - speed. In dark areas, camera is almost unusable, and video record has about 5 FPS. And this is very bad.
I am not developer, in fact I am interested in HW function only. Yes, I have some basics of assembler and C++, but very little, just enough to understand the HW. So, is there anybody with some idea, how to bring some speed into our cameras? Or at least some Xperia features like VGA record or 25FPS? I think there has to be a way. You poeple have done amazing things that even HTC screwed. I would like to help, but as I said, I am not the right person. But for some ideas or registry tweaks or testing my Diamond and my free time is ready.
Having a really tough time deciding which to buy...
The TP2 does look very compelling in this video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kz4TKMypIg4&feature=channel_page
Well... The Diamond 2 has a better camera...
It might be a little smaller... and cheaper
The TP2 has a keyboard, And it has some interesting features for business men
In my country I'd pay 150€ extra for it... Which I wouldn't do.
If you need it for business, Take the TP2, If you just want an excellent phone... Go with the Diamond 2
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Well... The Diamond 2 has a better camera...
It might be a little smaller... and cheaper
The TP2 has a keyboard, And it has some interesting features for business men
In my country I'd pay 150€ extra for it... Which I wouldn't do.
If you need it for business, Take the TP2, If you just want an excellent phone... Go with the Diamond 2
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Agreed. Main factor for me was the size: TD2 is perfect in that respect for my kind of use, and I do not miss keyboard (if I have large amount of text to type, I have a laptop or a workstation anyway). Keyboards had much too much bulk for the advantage they offer imho...
Design-wise, the only think I would change on the TD2 would be a slightly larger screen, if that is possible keeping the overall size exactly the same, and more physical controls (side wheel for scrolling, more remappable buttons). At a led flash, mainly for having flashlight always handy ;-)
IMO People should not be having trouble with this decision.
You either want a phone with a physical keypad and don't mind it being slightly larger OR you would rather have a smaller phone instead of a physical keypad.
There are other differences but they are small.
One thing though .... the TF3D interface is obsessed with scrolling. On the T2 this can be like having to win a game of Teeter to be allowed to call someone or select an application. The physical keypad on the P2 has direction keys. Maybe someone can comment on where (what parts of TF3D) these can be used in.
If you turned off TF3D (escape from Teeter) then this won't be an issue.
chch said:
IMO People should not be having trouble with this decision.
You either want a phone with a physical keypad and don't mind it being slightly larger OR you would rather have a smaller phone instead of a physical keypad.
There are other differences but they are small.
One thing though .... the TF3D interface is obsessed with scrolling. On the T2 this can be like having to win a game of Teeter to be allowed to call someone or select an application. The physical keypad on the P2 has direction keys. Maybe someone can comment on where (what parts of TF3D) these can be used in.
If you turned off TF3D (escape from Teeter) then this won't be an issue.
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I agree... not sure why people really have difficulty here....
Absolutely. Turning off TF3D is the best thing I ever did on my TD2. My word does it fly now! And no more stoopid scrolling through enormous lists!
Jim Coleman said:
Absolutely. Turning off TF3D is the best thing I ever did on my TD2. My word does it fly now! And no more stoopid scrolling through enormous lists!
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Hi Jim,
I'm also pretty annoyed by the endless scrolling of TF3D and thinking of replacing it. With which "Home-Plugin" did you replace TF3D?
Is there a way to start the HTC Music player without TF3D?
Thanks and regards,
JTGBDR
jtgbdr said:
Hi Jim,
I'm also pretty annoyed by the endless scrolling of TF3D and thinking of replacing it. With which "Home-Plugin" did you replace TF3D?
Is there a way to start the HTC Music player without TF3D?
Thanks and regards,
JTGBDR
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I use all the standard plugins plus WMP Status 1.0, TodayAgenda and Cash Organizer 2008.
I don't use any "Today replacement" plugins because I actually use the standard Today screen and think it's the best way of getting all the info I want on one screen.
The TF3D music player needs to have TF3D enabled. I use WMP, hence the WMP Status Today plugin.
TodayAgenda is the best thing since the news of Jacqui Smith's sacking.
Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
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Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
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awesome review
thedudelasse said:
Check out my new in-depth review of the Touch Pro2.
The review has everything from hardware and gps testing to video benchmarking and gaming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgTjSbpFDhQ
A very detailed review with comparisons to the Touch Pro as well.
Part I: Build Quality, Qwerty Keyboard, Hardware, Speakerphone test
Part II: User interface, Camera, Gaming, GPS Navigation, Video Benchmark and Conclusion
-TheDudeLasse
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i couldn't decide wether to wait a month for the TP2 or go buy the TD2, congratulation you just convinced me to wait
hi i spoke to vodaphone and the xperia2 deliver date has been put back as they have software issues withit and they might even withdraw it
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hi i spoke to vodaphone and the xperia2 deliver date has been put back as they have software issues withit and they might even withdraw it
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You can't be serious!
SE delaying a release, shocking!!!
I'm sorry for the sarcasm but SE has NEVER released a device on time, EVER.
who the hell cares
honstly i dont know why sony should bother. i for one dont really care anymore if it ever gets released
they did not bother fixing the the biggest issue with the x1 (the extremely poor performance). they just added more performance sucking features like the winmo 6.5, new applications/customization and 8,1 camera and kept the same slow driverless QC7200 528mhz chipset] just to guarantee that it will lag even more than the X1. after seeing the HD2 performance and comparing it to every "fast" 6.5 rom on the x1. it becomes evident that anything less than snapdragon is just not worth it anymore on highh-end phones
and then there is the problem of ~700euro price. please SE spare us your crap. the omnia pro has been available for several months now and it has better specs (AMOLED 3.5 screen,800MHZ, compass, samsung build quality (not the unproven mobinovva quality) and its less than 400euros
and dont even get me started on the lack of XDA-devs support which is probably probably the reason why i haven't regretted buying the X1
if i were you, id just use the X1 untill a suitable replacement like the tpro3 (i dont think SE will ever release the x3 since i dont expect them to do well with the x2). if you cant wait that long just get the hd2 now. i did not miss the HW keyboard with that 4.3" capacitive screen
yea dont go for the x2, its not worth it, or even for the tp2 for that matter. The only thing the new phones really have on the X1 is a bigger screen and accelerometer which to me isnt that big a deal. Not worth another 300- 500$ for a slightly upgraded device anyway...
I doubt that you will see any significant performance gains with any of the new WM devices from SE or HTC using the same MSM7200 ****. I plan on hanging onto my x1 another 5 months or so (or at least until the housing completely breaks) hoping something better rolls along, or I can get my hands on an X10.
1. who care when they can be ported to x1
2. what does this have to do with rom devolopment of xperia. if u wana post it, atleast do it in the right section....either xperia genereal or off-topic
cheers
I say this should be moved to xperia general subforum
Well, seems like they've had issues with all the newly released phones lately (as in Satio and Aino), so not surprising they'd have issues with X2.
their half hearted [email protected] entering the windows mobile market have failed miserably in my opinion. the X1 and x2 were delayed because of software (that no one really care about). almost all cooked roms have tf3d and most roms dont have any of SE unpracticle crap like the useless panels and the very untouch friendly interface.
i think sony may have a chance of not failing if they change the hardware to snapdragon but thats very unlikely because SE are simply not capable of doing such task at such short notice. i dont see the point of releasing x2 with the slow CPU even if they reduce the cost there is just not enough interest.
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Well, seems like they've had issues with all the newly released phones lately (as in Satio and Aino), so not surprising they'd have issues with X2.
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Played with Satio at the mall today, it was not up to my expectation.
looks like sony ericssons gonna lose a lot
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_ericsson_aino_pulled_out_from_uk_stores_just_after_satio-news-1286.php
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yea dont go for the x2, its not worth it, or even for the tp2 for that matter. The only thing the new phones really have on the X1 is a bigger screen and accelerometer which to me isnt that big a deal. Not worth another 300- 500$ for a slightly upgraded device anyway...
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I disagree
May I ask: currently, which windows phone has the better camera of all ??
To me, and considering Rhodium's toyish 3.1 MegaPix camera, Diamond2/Topaz's bring-your-flishlite 5 MegaPix camera, and HD2's "viagra effect" 5 MegaPix camera, the X2's 8 megapixels camera alone is reason enough to upgrade from X1 to X2
Just my oppinons after 2 weeks using the X2 camera for a daily basis (my cybrshot is busy accumulating dust in my room)
PS: THIS FORUM NEEDS ACTIVE MODS. THIS THREAD SHOULD BE MOVED TO THE GENERAL SUB.
HEY WE DESERVE MODS TOO HERE @ HTC'S BASTARD SIBLING (kovsky) FORUMS !!
i will definitely buy the X2 if it is available now in local market ... and for lower price
Hd2 is a wonderfull phones, but have too many isuues, no tv-out, non videocall, really bad camera, price too hight, and ...its too big.. Xperia x2 have no one of this problems.. i will go for x2 if this one day will come..
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Hd2 is a wonderfull phones, but have too many isuues, no tv-out, non videocall, really bad camera, price too hight, and ...its too big.. Xperia x2 have no one of this problems.. i will go for x2 if this one day will come..
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i agree
for me as X1 user the X2 is an must-have.....
here my points why i want to have it:
1. CPU seems to have full power now and not throttled to 400MHz
2. camera (i would bet its the module from C905 so i expect great quality)
3. 3.2" display is absolute perfect size (big enough to use finger and not too big so i can reach the whole screen with one hand and thumb)
4. no dust-collecting edge on display
5. best battery lifetime of all WM devices like X1 before (with TP2 together strongest battery but smaller display)
6. stereo speaker with hopefully great sound quality (some people compared it with W995, Nokia 5800 ams Samsung i8910 (i also own the nokia and the samsung)
7. a much better keyboard than the X1 (but X1 keyboard was already very good for me)
8. Amazing, smooth animated tilewave panel i tested on my X1
9. panels are very useful for me (on the road, tilewave, WM Homescreen, SPB Mobile shell, Facebook i use very often) and damned fast now also on X1
10. the great continous support with 48h repair warranty
that are 10 reasons to by the X2 for me and these reasons are worth the 510€ in switzerland for me........
and to the "slow" CPU:
what do you expect from snapdragon???? only that start menu scrolling is smoother than with MSM7200????? damned guys think about it!!!! the only reason for snapdragon would be to play high res 3D games with iPhone graphics...... but when do you think such games will come????? the game developers have to spend more ressources in game developement like xtract which works perfectly with the 7200 hardware...... or what would you say if you have to buy a PC with a 1000€ CPU to play a game on PC doesn't support hardware accelleration????? and for alle other usages the X1 was already fast enough and if you use the Touch HD video converter from the Blackstone thread you can also watch 800x480 videos smooth on X1!!!!!
and a last thing:
the X2 is the inly actual device with this complete hardware bundle and qwerty keyboard and with SE quality on the market....... and these Omnia Pro ****???? i have the first omnia and its slower and more laggy than my 5800 nokia crap and the omnia 2????? i read some test reports and it is the same **** like the one before...... Samsung is too silly to make good wirking and useful software for its devices and SE does this much better almost on the 2nd run!!!!!
EDIT: ah sry for my bad english i'm from germany ;-)
I agree completely with Jerpelea and others who like the X2. I was thinking of going in for an HTC HD2 but am now not so sure. I need a keyboard and a good camera and enough real estate to read ebooks and browse the web comfortably. It seems the X2 will be able to do all these things well. As for Snapdragon, many reviews of the HTC HD2 have complained about the "lagging" and the terrible battery life. I guess it all boils down to what you want a device for.
in Italian shops x2 will arrive 7 december
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in Italian shops x2 will arrive 7 december
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hmm i talked to SE X2 support one our ago and they said the X2 is shipped to german sellers since middle of last week......
expansys switzerland and germany sais the date is today...... hmm pressing both thumbs.....
About HD7 and WP7, quick review.
Positive HTC HD7:
. The device is awesome, fast, slim, the 4.3” high resolution screen is really epic and it feels really good when holding it in your hands. It makes you wanna have sex with it.
. The device materials quality is over my expectations
. Auto focus and dual LED flash working great
. Gsensor, proximity, and ambient light Sensor fast and reliable
Negative HTC HD7:
. Internal storage: 8 GB (Europe), I just hope we can upgrate it soon
. Battery drains a lot. it seems that battery manufacters are not keeping the pace. I recommend to disable all automatic updates and dont use 3G.
Positive Microsoft WP7:
. Really a clean OS fast and very responsive.
. The Hubs and animated tiles layout is very simple and fun to use.
. Social integration is a awesome feature and well worked by Microsoft (but it may be a little confusing for newbs.
. The boot sequence is the faster I ever seen.
Negative Microsoft WP7:
. Marketplace and Zune not available for all regions (you need to create a windows live account in a Region like UK for example).
. Lack of Customization
Bottom line:
WP7 is a kind of fresh air in the mobile world, a different approach with easy-to-use interface focused in integration of features and social network. Its fast, clean, intuitive, full of people-centric features with memory management like no other OS. Overall is has unbeatable perfomance.
Metro UI it is not just a app launcher, it has live tiles and not that sea of the same old and boring icons. The touch responsiveness is awesome and the short transitions between applications is the best experience I ever had.
The WP7 keyboard is clean , the mail experience is solid, IE9 is fast, the Office integration make WP7 impossible to ignore for serious business users, terrific Zune and Xbox Live integration with beautiful and useful user interface. All of these features are as simple and clean as the rest of the OS.
A kid can use it, a grown up can use it, a elderly can use it.
WP7 its still a work in progress and yes there is a lot of features missing but since it is just one year old, you can wait and live without it. The most important is that what we have now does not break, crash or lag. It works perfectly and smooth. Bottom line, you love it or you hate it.
In my case, I Love Windows Phone.
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My Rate so far: 8.5/10
Thats all.
dot
Hm, have not had any issue with the hubs. Agree on battery life, it is pretty weak so far. I've done multiple drains as well.
I'm pretty torn on the HD7 myself. On the one hand it's probably the best-looking handheld device I've ever owned. Hardware is just excellent and feels great in the hand. But the more I look at the screen the more I realize how poor it is. Colors are very washed out. My 1st gen iPod touch has better brightness, contrast and saturation than this screen. HTC could have done better here.
Would you say the battery last longer same or shorter then HD2?
I find the HD7 to be the best looking of all the WP7 phones yet released. I love the black chrome surround and the silver mesh inserts at each end of the front face. I also found ou t those mesh inserts conduct sound from the rear speaker. That is a plus, rather than just being there for looks.I love the high quality kickstand also. The HD7 combines all the best elements of the HD2 and Evo in a much prettier package.
My HD7 works flawlessly...signal and fit and finish as well. The screen is unblemished and the display is colorful and bright. I love the chrome buttons and I especially love the dual level camera button.
WP7 is, to me, the best mobile OS ever released. It is superbly smooth, uncluttered and efficient. It lacks features right now but, similar to the iPhone's lack of features, WP7 will evolve into the most successful mobile OS ever produced...my opinion.
Taking into consideration the nature of the system and how it will evolve, I give WP7 a 9 out of 10. I have experienced some minor bugs. Otherwise I would give it a 10/10
I love my hd7 to , real good build quality and O2 German version has 16 GB in it
I hate sound quality in HD7. There is absolute no bass if you use the included headphones or buildin speaker. As far as I know there is also no other headphones that have compatible control. Also the mic should be at the level of mouth or a little lower, but not at the chest level.
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I hate sound quality in HD7. There is absolute no bass if you use the included headphones or buildin speaker. As far as I know there is also no other headphones that have compatible control. Also the mic should be at the level of mouth or a little lower, but not at the chest level.
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Yeah, the HD2 included head set also has the mouth piece way low, like they designed it for the indigenous people who stretch out their necks, never made sense to me on that one.
Nice thread, I will wait for more comments before I buy mine.
My HD7
Me and MY HD7 it's a love hate relationship I guess.
A bit of history:
I've owned the HD1 (****ing loved it), The HD2 (was an okay device) Now the HD7 (still testing it). I'm a smartphone FANATIC! I have devices ranging from the Nexus One, to the Blue Angel (favorite phone of all time), to the EVO, G1, MOTO Backflip, Touch Pro1 and 2, even the XDA Flame, and Palm Pre, you name it. So I don't really have a biased to any particular device.
The HD7:
The physical design is AMAZING (though I think it could use more metal on the back, but it still feels way better than the plastic clad EVO). The screen appears to be floating as it's not touching the upper and lower bezel. The kickstand is sturdy.
The camera button is hard to press on the second stage (not the focus stage), if you attempt to use one hand it will probably shake enough of ruin your shot (and I have big hands, I can palm a basket ball). two hand use should be fine
The camera flash is great. It does a good job with adjusting the brightness of the light.
The battery life is absolutely pathetic, worse than than any device I ever owned.
The Audio from the built in speaker is CRAP! Even with HTC sound enhancer. I'ts actually the worst sounding phone I every owned, but it's bearable.
The Audio pushed out through the headphones is AMAZING!
The vibrator. I know who ever's reading this is like WTF? But I've always hated the way the vibrator feels on HTC device. I think it's an important feature on devices nowadays especially with tactile feedback emulations. With that said: On my EVO it's horrible it makes an annoying noise and it only vibrates the lower portion of the phone. But the vibrator on this device is awesome. It feels really natural and vibrates the whole phone. Almost better than the one on the Samsung devices.
The LCD display is actually decent. I don't know what everyone complains about, the device would have cost nearly twice as much with a 4.3 inch SAMOLED like everyone wants, no one has a 4.3 inch AMOLED or SAMOLED so give it a rest people! The display could be brighter in my opinion though.
The sound quality for phone call is the best I had so far, but put it on speaker phone and it's the worst I've heard.
Pocket IE is very fast faster than the Android 2.2 default browser. But the render is kind of weird as they seem to not have have anti aliasing on text when completely zoomed out so it looks horrible sometimes. Over all the browser is good.
Windows 7 in a nutshell
I love it and hate it.
I love: the messaging app, the overall interface, the idea for hubs, the xbox live integration, the live tiles, the lock screen, the Email Hub (beautifu and extremely functional), the picture and video Hub (beautiful and functional) the entire OS is extremely responsive and cohesive.
I hate: Some hubs won't load (and requires a soft reset) less than 5% of the time, Some apps have the tendency to crash (more time than I'm comfortable with) bot 3rd party and built in apps, I hate that the video recorder will not retain settings.
And I ABSOLUTELY HATE when searching for apps you get music result as well; example: if you search in Market Place for "Notes" you'll get some applications like "Voice Notes" and "Light Notes" but you'll also have albums and play lists mixed in like "Notes from the Past" and "Best of the 70s - Play list" WTF!! at the very least they could have grouped them by type "Albums" "Applications" "Play List". Instead they mix them all up randomly so you'll have to search an entire list of music albums so you won't potentially miss a very good app all the way at the bottom. W T F !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I give the device a 7/10
-Frankie
MHO.
HD7 -> compared to other HTC devices -> significant de-evolution.
HD7 -> compared to other devices same class -> not possible.
WM7, "satisfactory" start with possibility to improve fast.
HD7, terrible hardware choice and cant improve anything.
4/10
K
Thanks Dotcomp for the poll ,now thread is sticky....guys be nice,i'll check this thread and i won't see any flame around and in case post and quotes with flame will be deleted.
Thanks all for cooperation.
I rate it a 4/10. Pretty much subpar. I think there is a distinct difference between a fresh new look and quality.
For someone who is new to and Microsoft mobile OS dating back to the Offline pocket Pc's like me then this OS looks half baked.
For someone new to the MS OS then this OS is great with it's flashy graphics and smooth transitions. However there are just too many things that the girst Pocket Pc phone Edition had out the door that this OS lacks. Yes! I'm sure they'll be rectified down the line.
Now I need to make it clear before all the flaming kicks in; I definitely believe in the OS and it's future. There's a lot to come down the line. Heck! Great apps are coming out all the time. i just found FIM in the marketplace this morning.
However; as the saying goes. Call a spade a spade. Windows Phone 7 compared to Windows Mobile 3 or 2 or just plain PPC is subpar.
PROS:
Solid design on the hardware side.
Like the classy look of the hardware
The OS is very polished
Software keyboard works well and the screen size helps.
OS is snappy for anything native.
touch sensitivity is best I have ever seen. Most responsive OS i have ever used.
ZUNE /media capabilities and netflix are all a welcome +
CONS:
Very slow 3rd party apps.
Have to be reloaded every time they launch and takes for ever to just
check simple information like facebook or twitter or local movie times
no multi-tasking is sometimes bothersome as well as the omission of cut/copy/paste
Horrible browser who's acid test is only 5/100
no flash ( not really a deal breaker but just thought i would throw it out their)
no many apps available yet and when they are i think they dont work as optimized/or efficient as they should. (yes i know its early still)
on the hardware side the camera has a pink hue when i use the flash rendering the flash useless basically
cheap shiny metal material which was already chipping and i had only used the handset a week.
All in all I think MS did a great job redirecting the failing division they had
now i believe its time they bring the browser up to speed while adding a lot of industry standard features they need to catch up on. Great inial release and starting point for their revolution. I didnt think they had it in them. By next fall I expect them to be on par with most on the industry in terms of missing features and I think WP& is a great alternative to anything out their while bringing a totally different experience to the market with its unique minimal look. I am a die hard android fanboy but would not mind sticking it out with a WP7 device when 3rd party apps function properly. with that being said I give MS an A-
I like the phone and Microsoft.... but it needs to work just as good if not better than the iPhone 3GS that I had. I like that I can change the battery that is definately better than iPhone. And the microSD card is better too but it needs to be accessible as well. Not behind a cover and 10 screws. I know that is really for system memory, but then there should be a seperate slot for another SD card. I still like to take pictures or create/save documents and take the card and transfer to another computer or phone. Where is that SIM Manager too?? You had it before but now it's not a feature. And please please make the volume much much higher. Even the "speaker phone" volume is way too low.
All in all this phone and OS has lot's of potential. I like the "cloud" concept but as it stands today, my previous iPhone beats this handset. Please HTC and Microsoft... don't make me go back to Apple.... please !
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Hi all, I tell them that I decided to change my htc htc hd2 and then my desire for the new hd7, I love the speed with which I access the most important things in fast, but I feel some omissions such as: When you dial keypad Phone numerical prediction can not find the contacts, I have no possibility of a browser like igo gps, garmin, etc. And as already mentioned missing file browser. If anyone knows how to put the prediction of contacts or a good gps software please send an email to this fledgling community in windows phone 7.
poor battery life.
poor screen.
poor camera.
great OS just needs a few more features. And I know they are coming.
Come on HTC I know you have better cameras and screens,What were you thinking?
Why not have a higher capacity battery as well?
After two weeks Im going to return my phone. I cant really pinpoint one thing why I dont like it, but I miss using Android. I know Ive gotten beat up about this before but If you have a cell phone number listed in the home field of the contact, they arent searchable in "Messaging" . I understand how everyone feels about that but my argument is the person is listed in the contacts so the information is there, but it wont even display the persons name when searched. Fixable but "to me" annoying. I also dont like that the tiles on the home screen are basically all the same color. For me It makes glancing at the screen difficult to quickly search the tile Im looking for.
Battery life is terrible and makes the phone unusable for media if you are also relying on it all day long for other stuff.
Volume is way to low.
Not having LED notifications for SMS and Email is just insane. All day long I have to turn the phone on and off to see if I missed something. Just stupid.
Its beautiful and runs great but there just isnt a reason to switch to it if you have used any other modern smartphone.
Just my two cents.
The Marketplace really needs a dedicated app search area. As it is, you put in a search term for an app and it brings up music results as well. Sort of annoying searching for the Twitter app and having a bunch of mixtapes and singles mixed in with the apps.
Maybe it's there and I'm missing it?
manlisten said:
The Marketplace really needs a dedicated app search area. As it is, you put in a search term for an app and it brings up music results as well. Sort of annoying searching for the Twitter app and having a bunch of mixtapes and singles mixed in with the apps.
Maybe it's there and I'm missing it?
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I find this EXTREMELY ANNOYING too!!!!!
One good thing I would like to add to the positives is the maps app. To me its the best Ive ever used.