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hey guys,
I got my car dock a couple days ago and started using it day 1.
impressions:
its sexy but a little hard to move around (prob cuz its new)
but i have a major problem with the nexus one heating up to almost 120 degrees Fahrenheit! and this troubles me cuz i dont want my battery to lose its charge capacity.
and if im on lets say 50% battery and i drive somewhere for 10-15 min using the navi on the car dock
the temp shoots up to 115-120 and the charge goes down to ~30%
anyone else having a problem with overheating while in the car dock?
i used it during the day and night (only to check if the sun was affecting it)
no change in results
i used it with every option on the power control widget off
i ran Advanced task manager and ended all apps before launching navigation
im considered a tech whiz
so ive put this thing through its paces
and they only way to not have my phone burn hotter than the atlanta summer sun is by turning the screen off and listening to the navi...not veiwing it while its on charge and keeping all wireless options and sync off except GPS
ideas greatly appreciated....
oh yeah
rooted n1
running cyan 5.0.6xx if its any consolation...
and its not undervolted...(problem? but then what about non rooted phones)
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oh and today
after using the n1 and removing it from the car dock the screen was not responsive. couldnt use it to navigate
has to reboot the phone
I also noticed my Nexus heated up to 40-42 degrees C while using GPS with Screen on for 15 minutes. Burning hot.
no one has any problems?
ive been noticing its msotly because of the sun that it gets scorching hot but at night it does rise past 115 degrees F
120 degrees fahrenheit (49 degrees celsius) is not very hot for computer parts. The reason it reaches those temperatures I guess is because of google maps (if you used that for navi). When you use google maps it's almost constantly using your data connection and that is one of the most battery intensive tasks if I remember correctly.
Oh and I wouldn't classify a little over 40 degrees celsius as burning hot, I've been to places hotter than that, but I guess it's subjective
Seems that overheating is mainly an issue for those running Cyanogen's ROM, no?
My N1 can get hotter than 50 Celsius in under 10 minutes. It's really a bit frightening. I have noticed, however, that this ONLY occurs when the battery is not near full. Turning the screen off seems to help cool it down (more testing needed). However, turning off the screen doesn't help when you need it for gps.
I am using cyanogen, but not the cyanogen kernel. Overheating occurs both in sunlight and at night. I believe it occurred while not running google maps as well, but I can't remember for sure.
I've had no problems, but I did notice how hot it was. I figured it was because of the sun since I had it mounted on my window glass.
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When you use google maps it's almost constantly using your data connection and that is one of the most battery intensive tasks if I remember correctly.
Google maps only uses a data connection when it initally pulls down the route information and when it needs to recalculate the route.
You can put your phone into airplane mode after the inital pull and google maps will still function as expected (Except it will not pull down new maps if you stray from the path).
The issue is that you are trying to charge the phone and use it at the same time. The mechanism for doing this charges the battery and depletes the battery at the same time, this makes a really hot battery.
Keeping the screen off when its not needed in the dock and you will have less heat issues when you need to charge your phone in the car dock.
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Devastatin said:
SBS_ said:
When you use google maps it's almost constantly using your data connection and that is one of the most battery intensive tasks if I remember correctly.
Google maps only uses a data connection when it initally pulls down the route information and when it needs to recalculate the route.
You can put your phone into airplane mode after the inital pull and google maps will still function as expected (Except it will not pull down new maps if you stray from the path).
The issue is that you are trying to charge the phone and use it at the same time. The mechanism for doing this charges the battery and depletes the battery at the same time, this makes a really hot battery.
Keeping the screen off when its not needed in the dock and you will have less heat issues when you need to charge your phone in the car dock.
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yeah this car dock i am really getting mad at
i wasted 60 bucks for something that heats the hell out of my phone
i listen to music so loud the bluetooth speaker isnt loud enough to tell me where to turn when the screen is off so...
i guess ill try out enomthers rom with the UV kernal and report back
the major cause of it is the sun
because at night the phone doesnt go over 100 degrees F when using the navi
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Does anyone having this problem use "set cpu"?
I had a the same problem because my cpu was set to 998 during charging. so then I had the three main things that cause heat ganging up. battery, gps and cpu. All i did was set the cpu to 806 while charging and the heat problem went away...
I imagine that the stockers don't have this problem because they are under-clocked...
The main problem is the sun. I have Rodriguez's rom with the overclock and the only thing causing it to heat up is the sun.
Setting the CPU lower I will try but on setcpu I don't set it to userspace anymore. Its set to ondemand and no profiles set. Ill set a profile for overheating at 120°F to max 806mhz
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i just unplugged my phone and noticed it was super!! hot!!! so i went into spare parts and checked the battery status. it read ''battery health: overheat'' & ''battery temp:54.6 d c'' is this bad? im using nfinitfx45's rom oc to 710. i was using setcpu to oc and it worked perfectly but i read a post on here that overclock widget is better so i used that instead and that when it happened. i was using wireless tether for root users then picked up my phone to turn it off and thats when i noticed.
Wireless tether heats a phone up bad. I've tried throttling the cpu speed down, but it makes no difference as the heat us from constant radio use and wifi use more than the cpu. Especially if you use it while charging. Wireless tether should really only be used in short bursts, use easy tether or pda net if you need to share internet longer.
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I have noticed this problem when having the phone plugged in while doing something strenuous such as tether or if you have bad signal. Also, make sure you don't set your phone in the sun. The quickest way to cool it off is to remove the battery and leave the back off. This will cool it down to 20C in about 10 min.
While tethering I either set the phone on top of an air vent OR on top of the beer can with the back cover off
Mine usually shuts off when it hits 59* C
How's the battery life with RIL enabled? Significant improvement, or still pretty crappy?
I heard someone awhile ago say they couldn't get through Avatar on a full charge. Is this still the case, even with tweaks?
I'm considering picking up the S7 as my main unit (ditching my OG Droid at last), and I need to know if it's even feasible. I would love to do this, but if I can't get through a day I can't do it. Here are things I'm thinking of doing:
-DJ_Steve's ROM with RIL enabled
-Juice Defender to set my 2G/3G/4G settings; 4G for internet/calls, 3G/2G for notifications/idle/gaming/etc. (depending on which is lower battery consumption).
What kind of battery life can I expect? I still have to get out of my VZW contract (ought to be this month), so I'm still researching what the best solution will be for me. I really want a 4G, dual core, 7" tablet. I've used the Streak 7 at the T-Mo store and I love it (screen is great, unit was very snappy; 4G seemed a bit slow, but it was during peak hours).
So, anyone test their battery life and see any improvements over stock?
Haven't tried any wifi calling on my ds7. Using stock 2.2.2 and I can get about 3-4 hours of playback using rockplayer before battery dies. Doubt you'd make it through the day. It seems to drain some battery even on standby.
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Well, I couldn't get out of my Verizon contract and I didn't really get an answer to my question, so I really had only one choice.
I got a Streak 7 this last weekend. Logic be damned!
Loving this thing, so far. I got it rooted/Rom'd (thanks to all that worked on that!). Battery conservation while maintaining data connectivity is a big issue for me, so I'll be tweaking a few things and seeing how it goes. I'll report whatever I find out.
So, ril-off will disable all mobile data (thanks, Hellzya!). That's not an option, as this is now my main device. For anyone else in my boat, here are a couple of things that might work:
This app is basically a shortcut to your network system settings. Seems to work fine; I'm using it to toggle to 2G when I'm not using the device (but still want to get notifications), and then 3G/4G when I am. The S7 switches between HSPA and GSM a lot when I'm at my house due to me being on the fringe of a 4G tower; I'll see if this fixes that issue and report back.
This thread has another app that will automatically switch to 2G when the screen is off. I have yet to try it, but I'll update once I do.
Long live the battery!
Update: From what I'm reading, the HSPA antenna uses less juice than the EDGE one, so I've been setting it to HSPA only. Underclocked as much as possible when the screen is off (216, I believe), and overclocked to 1200 (lower Quadrant, of course, but I don't notice a performance degradation).
I had it off the charger all day, yesterday, and then tethered my Cr48 to it for quite some time. I was off the charger at ~7AM, started tethering at ~9PM. I had maybe 20-30% battery at that time. I hadn't used it much that day; just some light internet usage, ~15 minutes of streaming Pandora (high quality setting), one VOIP call, and a few, benchmark tests. After about 30-60 minutes of tethering, the battery was in the red so I hooked it up to the charger and continued to tether.
So far, so good. The battery is livable, but by no means great. This wasn't a really big usage day, though, but at least the idle isn't eating up too much juice. I'll have to see what kind of heavy usage I can get out of it (tethering, video streaming, etc.).
Hoping, of course, that HC gives us back some precious battery life.
Over the last couple of weeks the battery life on my D3 has fallen off the cliff. We're talking down to 50% or worse by lunch and giving me battery warnings by late afternoon. I don't believe I've installed any new software (other than updates to existing apps) and I have two batteries and both are just as bad. The only thing I've noticed on the usage stats is that Wifi is taking up the most power and I have noticed that my wifi signal levels around my house seem to be lower than normal. Could wifi be dying on my D3? Anyone have any suggestions?
Umm... my thoughts (Disclaimer: I am not an expert and I don't even play one on TV) -
You could try turning wifi off and seeing where that gets you. If that fixes it, then WiFi is definitely your problem. If not, either your battery indicator is borked (common issue) or your battery is going bad... read the OP, read the OP, read the OP
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It might be an app that is running. I had Words with Friends installed and man it killed my battery in 3 hours! Try turning up your Android memory settings so it kills background apps faster also.
I seem to have narrowed it down to the TuneIn radio app. I have it running in the morning while fixing breakfast, etc. On the weekend I don't run it and my battery life has been much better. Didn't used to have a problem so perhaps the updated something?
Could be, I have tunein on mine, however don't use it daily. Do you use a launcher like go launcher or nemus, etc.? I use go and am just use to my phone dying by around dinner time, however it and other launchers can be resource hogs and I can see a recent update to it being a plausible cause for your sudden battery drain.
This is pure thought though, haha no facts or anything to support my claims, just ideas. Hope this helps a bit!
Try calibrating your battery, their are toons of free programs in Google Playstore (try battery calibrator). Also keep in mind every battery has a life cycle (maybe is already reach it's end). The other thing, is that you could have damage your battery by accident:
Things that could have damage it:
1-. Leaving you battery to charge at night (This can't happen, you should only charge it while it reaches 100%. Its like a cigarette, it slowly kills it)
2-. Has your device or battery been in contact with water? If it has, you should probably go to a Motorola Center.
3-. Overheating, try covering your cellphone from sunlight (The optimum temperature is from 0-45C°)
Hope it works, good luck
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Try calibrating your battery, their are toons of free programs in Google Playstore (try battery calibrator). Also keep in mind every battery has a life cycle (maybe is already reach it's end). The other thing, is that you could have damage your battery by accident:
Things that could have damage it:
1-. Leaving you battery to charge at night (This can't happen, you should only charge it while it reaches 100%. Its like a cigarette, it slowly kills it)
2-. Has your device or battery been in contact with water? If it has, you should probably go to a Motorola Center.
3-. Overheating, try covering your cellphone from sunlight (The optimum temperature is from 0-45C°)
Hope it works, good luck
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1 is actually incorrect. Leaving it charging overnight will not decrease battery life on modern batteries. When it reaches 100% it will stop charging and let it drop back down to 95%, then top back up. If it did this 20 times, it would be the same as 1 battery cycle(complete drain and recharge) you shouldn't see much more than 5% battery drop overnight unless you're running one of the experimental kexec roms, which have deep sleep issues. However if you are concerned about your battery lifespan then you shouldn't be on a kexec rom. Batteries have a limited number of cycles, but it doesn't matter if you do the cycle 5% at a time or 100% at a time.
To give you an idea, i've this phone and battery a year-ish and I still get as good of battery life as when I got it. I always leave it charging overnight. I easily get 12 hours of battery, and I'm a heavy user. At least 2 hours screen time plus several hours of music playing
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I've noticed my WiFi killing my battery sometimes, and other times barely making the top 5 in the Battery Usage menu. It's weird. However, when I do notice it, turning off WiFi solves the problem. Typically this happens on my university campus; my working theory is that, for some reason, my phone is trying to talk to a WAP that's almost out of range, instead of switching to a WAP that's much closer. All of the WAPs broadcast the same network, but I think my phone may remember which specific WAP it connected to last time and tries to re-connect to that WAP even though it's halfway across campus
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I've noticed my WiFi killing my battery sometimes, and other times barely making the top 5 in the Battery Usage menu. It's weird. However, when I do notice it, turning off WiFi solves the problem. Typically this happens on my university campus; my working theory is that, for some reason, my phone is trying to talk to a WAP that's almost out of range, instead of switching to a WAP that's much closer. All of the WAPs broadcast the same network, but I think my phone may remember which specific WAP it connected to last time and tries to re-connect to that WAP even though it's halfway across campus
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If your wifi is on, but not connected, it scans every 45 seconds which is a huge battery drain
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If your wifi is on, but not connected, it scans every 45 seconds which is a huge battery drain
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Typically it remains connected but at low signal strength, despite a WAP being no more than 20 feet away (through 1 wall). I have noticed that though too; if I'm somewhere with a bunch of networks and not connected to any of them I'll typically turn WiFi off.
I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
player911 said:
I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
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The power led does not stay lit. it's due to the new feature in the rom that allows the rear lights to stay on with new downloaded apps. unclick that and its fine.
-Slow AC charging. Even when using the OEM cable and adapter.
Anyone else have gps issues? No lock.
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I do not have access to LTE, It doesn't show up under network type and strength.
Any ideas?
I've had no major issues with xdabbebs stock ROM. I can't seem to add widgets to the lock screen. Is this no longer an option ?
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I've had no major issues with xdabbebs stock ROM. I can't seem to add widgets to the lock screen. Is this no longer an option ?
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Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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It was an option on his 2.3.0 ROM which was basically stock LG. I updated my N10 to 5.1 and lost the feature on it as well. I was using dashclock widget for quite some time on both.
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Was it available on stock? I think we forget what functionality stock has since we probably haven't used it in so long. You could kdz back to KK and see.
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It was an option on his 2.3.0 ROM which was basically stock LG. I updated my N10 to 5.1 and lost the feature on it as well. I was using dashclock widget for quite some time on both.
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Google removed lockscreen widgets in Lollipop
Lock Screen
I'm trying to figure out what clicking on a notification on the lock screen is suppose to do. When i click on it it just shows an empty box. Kind of looks like a blank, missing lockscreen widget. Am I missing something here? I would think it would take me to the app or maybe give me an un-truncated version of what I clicked.
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I figured this would be a good place to have a General thread discussion the problems and solutions for the newly released Verizon Lollipop update.
- Excessive Battery Drain seems to be the main issue
- Power LED Notification light stays lit - may have been fixed by using updated partition components
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Battery drain is an issue. I'm hoping after a few days of the new update settling in it will get better..
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I'm trying to figure out what clicking on a notification on the lock screen is suppose to do. When i click on it it just shows an empty box. Kind of looks like a blank, missing lockscreen widget. Am I missing something here? I would think it would take me to the app or maybe give me an un-truncated version of what I clicked.
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Wireless charging
I still need to do more testing and observation with this, but my phone hasn't charged at all the last 2 nights while sitting on my wireless charger at home. It's a cheap charger that claims 1A max input (I think) plugged into the LG official charger which is 1.8A. Meanwhile, at work I have an official LG Qi wireless charger using another official LG power supply @ 1.8A. I installed Ampere just now and my wireless charger only registers +20mA. My battery was at 78% and wasn't hot, so it should have drawn more power. I plug the USB cable directly into my phone and Ampere reports around +930mA. I put it back onto the Qi charger and it still says 20mA, yet the battery is charging at a normal rate (from 78% to 92% in like 20 or 30 minutes). i'm curious what Ampere will show on my other wireless charger, the one that has failed to charge my phone the last 2 or 3 nights.
I tried searching for this app I used to use that had a widget that would show you current power draw, then also had historical data with graphs and all. Ampere is bare-bones just shows you current power draw, so it's not nearly as useful. I need to find that other battery app but there are like 30 apps named Battery Widget...does anyone know which app I'm talking about? (EDIT: Found it. It's Battery Monitor Widget, by 3C. It only shows +15mA on wireless charger and +300mA with direct charging while battery at 96%).
UPDATE: Battery Monitor Widget (BMW, hehe) is showing me some more stats for wireless charging and it's not stuck at +15mA the whole time. I think I'll pay the $1.13 to remove ads since AdAway isn't blocking them. I just need to drain my battery and charge it up a few times to get some more info. My battery was already at 96% when I started looking with this app, so the numbers should be low. I see a few entries where it was at +61mA or +42mA, which seems about right for when it's at 99% or 100% battery level.
I don't have a g2 anymore. I have a g3. I wanted to know if anyone is having a audio Bluetooth streaming issue in their car. I use a pioneer avh x4600bt and the music skips excessively after 30 seconds of play.
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Bxrider117 said:
I don't have a g2 anymore. I have a g3. I wanted to know if anyone is having a audio Bluetooth streaming issue in their car. I use a pioneer avh x4600bt and the music skips excessively after 30 seconds of play.
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Not on 4.4.2. Stream audio for 50 mins each way to and from work almost every day and no issues. Haven't made the lollipop upgrade yet, phone works pretty good as is and don't want to take a battery life hit.
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Not on 4.4.2. Stream audio for 50 mins each way to and from work almost every day and no issues. Haven't made the lollipop upgrade yet, phone works pretty good as is and don't want to take a battery life hit.
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Thanks for the response. I didn't have any problems when I was on kit kat either. I was wondering if anyone had this problem with Bluetooth streaming on lollipop.
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I seems to have battery drain in only stand by mode. I don't know if there is a way to find out if device deep sleeps without a root.
Anybody?
Mainly it will not charge properly (6-10 hours for full charge), and it loses charge if you're navigating or using Pandora while plugged in.
Sometimes the whole OS becomes unresponsive, but I think that's mainly from the task manager that was set to clear ram every 12 hours. I turned that off.
The dismal GPS was promised to be fixed with lollipop, and it still sucks just as much as ever.
2 things they got right, however. Auto screen brightness is almost perfect except when it auto dims because it gets warm. Also the camera is faster in the dark! Finally.
It's like the wired charging is being limited. Wireless charging feels the same to me as it did on KitKat, but I wasn't measuring the charging while on KitKat. I have almost never charged my G2 by plugging it in, but when I do I see really low values and it takes just as long as wireless charging takes. However, I don't lose power if charging while doing stuff like Pandora, at least I don't think I do. I will do a little test and see, but I'll use something a lot more power-hungry than Pandora, like maybe Trials Frontier with full brightness.
EDIT: OK I have some results of a little test:
I played Trials Frontier @ full brightness and no charging for 30 minutes or so. The battery was draining at around 27% per hour or -300mA (-300 seems wrong. I would expect something more like -750mA). I went from 98% to 83%.
I then put it on the wireless charger in landscape, which makes it a little bit of guess-work trying to line it up perfectly with the Qi charger. I continued playing the game for 25 minutes or so. When done, I had 84% battery. It barely gained any charge, but it charged nonetheless. I see two readings in this time frame: first one says I gained 6% an hour and 68mA, the second one said 0% change per hour and -127mA (not sure why it claims 0% for that).
I think what happened was the battery got warm and it cut the charging rate, but I don't know at what temps it does this and stuff. I believe I would lose battery level if I kept playing but I'm not sure. Battery was at 41°C at the time it said my usage was 0% per hour, -127mA.
I think I need to have a lower battery level to start with, then try wireless vs wired and stuff. Has this already been done and I'm just wasting time? I am just curious about wired vs wireless at this point I think.
I want to report something. I found why my battery was draining. It was Google Now. I never used it, but somehow it got activated during upgrade. I signed out and drain stopped. I hope this would help somebody.
After two days on stock 39A
Battery seems to charge A LOT slower on non LG charges. Using the Lg charger and cable seems a bit slower but Ok. I have two G2s one on 27A and one on 39A. Using the stock charger and cable the phone on 27A draws about 1200 mA the one on 39A draws 700 mA. If I use an older charger the phone on 27A draws 800 mA the one on 39A draws 200 mA or less.
Battery drain seems a bit worse on 39A but not terrible. I am comparing to the 27A rooted and debloated. Considering all the extra junk that now runs in the background it's not unexpected.
BT streaming in the car has greatly improved for me with the 39A update. I can now use Viber and Skype call in my car and even switch between phone calls and skype calls. Music streaming also works much better.