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I've been traumatized! or Diamond is not the hardest substance known to man....

It had to happen, I am usually so careful, my phone case came off my belt and dropped by the driver side door. I didn't notice it until I was on the road. Sent my daughter out to get it and found that I had driven over the phone. The invisible shield had kept it from shattering and it is still working. I think all I need to do is replace the lcd digitizer, but I'm really bummed out. I loved my diamond.
Question is; I've got permission from the better half to get a new phone, what is the best option for an upgrade under 600.00 USD?
I've resurrected an old Pantech Duo to tide me over, and I am going to buy a new phone in two weeks when more money comes into the house. Let me know which way to go.

I've always wanted a Touch HD. Bigger screen (WVGA) is the main point for me. I don't know how much it costs in US, but over here in Malaysia, could get it for slightly less than RM2000 (roughly USD600).

I would like US 3g also, I've been seeing that the Diamond II and the Touch HD standard versions only support European 3G. I know the HD version that has US 3G is the T8285. The Diamond II version I think is the upcoming warhawk. They downgraded the cam in that version of the diamond II to 3.2 MP from 5.0 MP. I hate that but I wonder if it makes any difference.

Well, 5.0MP cam to 3.2MP cam makes no big difference (unless you're using your phone to take pictures for blown up reproduction later, which I highly doubt so).
I don't quite like TD2 of the big space at the bottom of the screen. Having the zoom panel there is just taking up valuable space.

I'm assuming you are in the US {you stated $600US} & that you are on AT&T {Go from Diamond to Duo}. First off, as long as you qualify for an upgrade, you can get any phone your provider has for less then $600. Personally, I suggest looking aroung the web for unlocked GSM phones. Other countries have much better phones then what are offered in the US. Currently Japan is playing with 4G phones, whereas the US is barely on 3G.
Click on the "Device Database" tab at the top of this screen. It will take you to PDADB.net which has extensive data on all PDA/PPC devices available & upcoming.

Engadget Review. 6 out of 10!

Well I was all set to get the HD7 on launch but I may have to hold back a bit after this review. While I will certainly check it out and make up my own mind, after reading this I feel a little disapointed.
Your thoughts?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/20/htc-hd7-review/

Dude all of widows phones suck everyone knows that, jump on android. Go to phandroid.com and look around
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GetDollaz248 said:
Dude all of widows phones suck everyone knows that, jump on android. Go to phandroid.com and look around
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Thank you for such a thoughtful and enlightening response. I'll be sure to keep it in the back of my mind all day long.

also read that review and had similar thoughts to yourself, but i went ahead and bought one this morning.
Glad I did, it's an awesome phone and despite what engadget says it feels really solid and great build quality.

Thats great to know!

Engadget have also reviewed the Mozart (7/10) and the Omnia 7 (8/10) - having been following the HD7 for weeks - I am now tempted by the Omnia - that screen looks gorgeous.
The only problem - its not on O2

bean_ian said:
also read that review and had similar thoughts to yourself, but i went ahead and bought one this morning.
Glad I did, it's an awesome phone and despite what engadget says it feels really solid and great build quality.
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you switched it on yet?
hows the screen

yeah i've switched it on and played with it a bit. I have to wait for my number to port over before i can really get stuck in (no wifi or data connection at the moment).
the screen look surprisingly well, defiantly not as washed out as it did in the Engadget video.
And that's coming from a Legend with a amoled screen. Blacks are not as deep as the legend but you really have to try hard to notice that.

bean_ian said:
yeah i've switched it on and played with it a bit. I have to wait for my number to port over before i can really get stuck in (no wifi or data connection at the moment).
the screen look surprisingly well, defiantly not as washed out as it did in the Engadget video.
And that's coming from a Legend with a amoled screen. Blacks are not as deep as the legend but you really have to try hard to notice that.
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excellent, music to my ears.
is it 16gb?

yup, all o2 ireland & uk hd7's are 16gb
update: just a note. in the settings page it states total storage is 14.63gb with 13.73 usable. That is straight out of the box

bean_ian said:
yup, all o2 ireland & uk hd7's are 16gb
update: just a note. in the settings page it states total storage is 14.63gb with 13.73 usable. That is straight out of the box
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Same here, despite the lacklustre engadget review I've gone out and bought the HD7 anyway. Physically holding and using the phone changes your mind immediately. The screen is great , and huge (having come from using a Diamond 2).
And yeah the available storage on mine says 13.72GB as well. And definitely no microSD card that I can see, so there won't be any updating to 32GB or anything.

bean_ian,
is the phone unlocked?

rafter_01 said:
bean_ian,
is the phone unlocked?
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Yes the phone is locked. I tried my Meteor Ireland sim card in it and it is looking for an unlock code. I'm sure it's only a matter of time till some clever lad on these forums figures out a way to get around that.

The screen contrast really looks crappy compared to the Omnia and also the built-quality doesn't seem to compete with HD2 I got an HD7 anyway, because my primary choice (Omnia 7) will only be available with branding in Germany in the near future.

Chrissicom said:
The screen contrast really looks crappy compared to the Omnia and also the built-quality doesn't seem to compete with HD2 I got an HD7 anyway, because my primary choice (Omnia 7) will only be available with branding in Germany in the near future.
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disagree,
HD7 built-quality is the same if not better than the HD2. Played around with the HD7 at a o2 shop

Chrissicom said:
The screen contrast really looks crappy compared to the Omnia and also the built-quality doesn't seem to compete with HD2 I got an HD7 anyway, because my primary choice (Omnia 7) will only be available with branding in Germany in the near future.
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Sorry I totally disagree, both the screen quality and build quality are superior to the HD2. The screen is far brighter with richer colours. I think the Engadget review is extremely poor. The phone is great, very responsive and the OS is a breath of fresh air.

I've just got mine from the O2 shop even after reading the engadget review. Suffice to say I made the right choice!
Lovely quality 'soft touch' plastic rear cover, sturdy flip out stand and great screen. The engadget screen comparison made it look washed out but in reality it has a quality silvery sheen to it that is only noticeable when viewed off axis. As phones are pretty much single user devices this shouldn't be an issue...
My Orange contract sim doesn't work but the giffgaff (.com) pay&go sim that came in the post while I was out is accepted without issue.
A few things to note:
There is an 'O2 Accent' tile colour shade option that is a light blue colour as well as the default selection of colours.
There is an O2 branded welcome screen after the initial HTC boot screen and before the Windows Phone 7 splash screen.
There is a 'Stocks', 'Sound Enhancer' and 'Photo Enhancer' tile onthe home screen as well as the HTC Hub. No other O2 branding is apparent.
Now, just got to find out how to remove the sim lock on this thing!

Will101 said:
I've just got mine from the O2 shop even after reading the engadget review. Suffice to say I made the right choice!
Lovely quality 'soft touch' plastic rear cover, sturdy flip out stand and great screen. The engadget screen comparison made it look washed out but in reality it has a quality silvery sheen to it that is only noticeable when viewed off axis. As phones are pretty much single user devices this shouldn't be an issue...
My Orange contract sim doesn't work but the giffgaff (.com) pay&go sim that came in the post while I was out is accepted without issue.
A few things to note:
There is an 'O2 Accent' tile colour shade option that is a light blue colour as well as the default selection of colours.
There is an O2 branded welcome screen after the initial HTC boot screen and before the Windows Phone 7 splash screen.
There is a 'Stocks', 'Sound Enhancer' and 'Photo Enhancer' tile onthe home screen as well as the HTC Hub. No other O2 branding is apparent.
Now, just got to find out how to remove the sim lock on this thing!
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sim unlock, me too

wheresmybeaver said:
And yeah the available storage on mine says 13.72GB as well. And definitely no microSD card that I can see, so there won't be any updating to 32GB or anything.
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Have ya opened it yet ? (removed the battery)

I have and you can see nothing of any storage, literally just battery and sim card, although to the left and right of the battery there are sticker like things were a 'non removable' SD may hide - but I won't be finding out while my HD7 is still in warranty haha.
I personally disagree with EnGadget. I have come from and HD2 to this phone and find the build quality is excellent (the metal edges feel really good in your hand) and the screen quality is brilliant.
Only problem I'm having at the moment is that the HTC apps have become unavailable to download although I'm hoping that this is just a teething problem atm...

Would you agree that the HTC Titan is the HD7 replacement?

Seen a number of websites suggest its a direct replacement. Is it do you think or is it just because they are both large screened WP7 devices made by HTC? As the HD7 is getting Mango anyway for owners of this device I am not sure how much of an upgrade for them the Titan is.

Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.

I would say its replacement for it, but I dont think its worth an upgrade yet, I will wait to see what new phones come out afterward.
Besides I cant go from a 32gb HD7 to a 16GB Titan

I will wait for the Nokia phones to come out next year though
as Nokia does better hardware so I believe
for me the main reason would be the camera as 5MP in the HD7 is not up for me, so hoping to bump it up either 8mp or 12mp
Also all future WP7 will have a front facing camera and skype coming soon as well so that's something to consider.
VERDICT : Titan is a good UPDATE not an UPGRADE I would say
I guess the best bet would be to wait for next year and see what NOKIA really brings to the table as the HD7 will be just fine untill then as it really rocks MANGO, I don't feel the need to change it yet

I thought so, but what has me thinking is that it still hasnt been anounced for TMO USA yet.... and according to this LINK there is gonna be a device named HTC Bresson running Windows Phone released and no mention of Eternity/Titan...
Im curious to see what this "Bresson" could turn out to be... (plus 4.7 is streching it when it comes to size IMO expecially since WP7 has such a minimilistic UI, so such a big screen is unnecessary)

foaf said:
Yeah I would say it is the direct replacement. Looking at the specs you get:
- 0.5 inch bigger screen, but no improvement in resolution
- 1.5ghz processor vs 1ghz
- double the battery life
- Point 'n' Shoot quality camera (according to the marketing)
What I really wanted though was an AMOLED screen.
I'll certainly check it out in the shop and compare directly to the HD7.
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The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?

To me the Titan will be the next device for me as soon as it comes out in the UK, the only issue I have is that I have got used to having the stand on the back for watching films on the train, I will miss not having that.

You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.

JamesDax said:
You guys forgot to mention that this thing has a FFC as well. This would be a must have for me but all indications are that it is going to AT&T and that us folks at T-Mobile are getting the lesser HTC Omega.
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I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?

Super Chimp said:
I thought you weren't getting this device in the US but a different one instead?
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Wait.. What??

It's worth the wait, Titan is good but I would rather go with an amoled screen. Hope that Samsung will bring one like the SGS2 has, who knows or maybe I'll wait for a nokia one, atleast I am sure they will be using carl zeis optics on their cams.

Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??

JamesDax said:
Yeah, I'm hoping that the rumored 4.5in Samsung will come to T-Mobile since it looks like we won't be getting the Titan. Anyway, why haven't we heard anything from Samsung about thier new WP7 devices??
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According to this article, at least as far as the European market is concerned, they are only releasing one mid-range WP7 device.
http://www.mobile-review.com/articles/2011/birulki-133-en.shtml#4
There is no mention if the North American market will do any better. So unless Nokia produce something interesting my attention is focussed on the Titan at the moment.

Super Chimp said:
The fact that they haven't increased the resolution on such a large screen seems something of a poor move, as I would think it would lead to a pretty grainy screen?
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Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.

morpheus1982 said:
Apparently the resolution is down to the OS limitations. The screen of the Titan is "only" 1 cm bigger in the diagonal, and will not affect the resolution of the screen for you to notice.
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But I would argue that 4.3" inch screens are right at the limit for this resolution, let alone going that bit bigger. It's why we are seeing increasing numbers of devices with screens around this size or slightly bigger using a higher resolution than this.

[Q] from GS2 to this phone

Hi guys i had a Galaxy S2 but i made a bad decision and changed for a motorola photon and some cash. Now i really really hate this motorola with its pentile screen, i hate this phone every time i need to check it to answer a call or read a fb update.
I want to buy this HTC vivid phone cause it is kind of cheap on my country (cheaper than GS2) . I don't have money for a GS3 or a HTC one x cause both cost around 800 USD here .
Basically what i loved of my S2 was the amoled screen and the easy root process cause i need proxy droid to get wireless conection on my job.
So i'm just looking this features on the vivid. am i going to find them?
Thanks in advance

Edit: i know that HTC vivid does not have AMOLED screen, i´m talking about screen quality. am i going to find a similar quality of pictures and video? I don't want another crap screen like the motorola pentile :'( .
Thank you so much guys

Betornillo said:
Edit: i know that HTC vivid does not have AMOLED screen, i´m talking about screen quality. am i going to find a similar quality of pictures and video? I don't want another crap screen like the motorola pentile :'( .
Thank you so much guys
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Imo screen is great , just yesterday i compared it to a friends galaxy3 screen ..
TRUE COLOURS on vivid, excellent contrast/B] .. white is "white"
blue tint on sgs3 and galaxy note screen... seriously white aint white, white = pale bue

[Q] Different Display for the black HTC One model?

Hi All,
Are there any differences in the screen with HTC One? I compared my HTC one with my friend's, with full brightness, there are lots of differences. My phone is not that bright enough and the same photos look totally different. In my friend's phone, its more bright and vibrant, but in my phone its a bit dull. We both are in the same firmware version and build.
Please advice.
thanks.

razorBlades said:
Hi All,
Are there any differences in the screen with HTC One? I compared my HTC one with my friend's, with full brightness, there are lots of differences. My phone is not that bright enough and the same photos look totally different. In my friend's phone, its more bright and vibrant, but in my phone its a bit dull. We both are in the same firmware version and build.
Please advice.
thanks.
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yup, possible: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2202869&highlight=display
look at post #5, then you can find out which screen your device uses.