Why does my data service suck so badly? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Att is aweful. No matter what I do, kernal, modem, rom, the data service is just plain aweful. I have friends on verizon just downloading appear left and right with ease and quickly. I sometimes I try to download one and it doesnt download or so painfully slow. Please help me I have another year on my contract.
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goob1284 said:
Att is aweful. No matter what I do, kernal, modem, rom, the data service is just plain aweful. I have friends on verizon just downloading appear left and right with ease and quickly. I sometimes I try to download one and it doesnt download or so painfully slow. Please help me I have another year on my contract.
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Little more specific about rom, kernel, modem please.

Continuum, ginger reorineted v1.2 #13, and jp9
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jp9 make my data slow and my phone get really hot, also kills my battery. some say the opposite.
data speeds vary by area. i get 4mbps on my captivate and 6mbps on my infuse. locally verizon is lucky to get 2g speeds even on 3g, it took 3 or 4 minutes to reinstall maps on my friends fascinate. in manhatten lte on verizon can get 20mbps. if verizon is better in your area and you can deal with there politics then get verizon. there plans are basically mirrored from att's plans now and you can go non contract with them as well if you want to pay full or near it for the phone. as verizon tries to atract att's costomers there rates, plans and obligations are getting better and better for new subscribers. old costomers they can't care less about and are subject to insane overage charges and dumb policies. they also offer unlimited data as there only data plan now so it is like the old iphone billing.

Dani897 said:
jp9 make my data slow and my phone get really hot, also kills my battery. some say the opposite.
data speeds vary by area. i get 4mbps on my captivate and 6mbps on my infuse. locally verizon is lucky to get 2g speeds even on 3g, it took 3 or 4 minutes to reinstall maps on my friends fascinate. in manhatten lte on verizon can get 20mbps. if verizon is better in your area and you can deal with there politics then get verizon. there plans are basically mirrored from att's plans now and you can go non contract with them as well if you want to pay full or near it for the phone. as verizon tries to atract att's costomers there rates, plans and obligations are getting better and better for new subscribers. old costomers they can't care less about and are subject to insane overage charges and dumb policies. they also offer unlimited data as there only data plan now so it is like the old iphone billing.
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I got the hot phone ... melted some chocolate in my pocket once and it made me so angry. And I hate that no matter where I go, the data speeds suck. And my phone switches from h to 3g back to h which causes delays too
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I got the hot phone ... melted some chocolate in my pocket once and it made me so angry. And I hate that no matter where I go, the data speeds suck. And my phone switches from h to 3g back to h which causes delays too
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use kc1 modem it is the best overall i have used, no issues, great call quality. also kp1 was good, gps positiong is wonky on some roms but the call quality is good.
i hear jkv is also awesome but it is not included in the rom because it defaults to 900mhz not 850. i think after an 850 mhz mode is on there you can just flash jkv but im not speaking from experience that it works. you dont want the hot phone issue or a lack of service if you can avoid it so maybe try kc1 first.

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[Q] Internet in School

I have owned my Samsung Captivate for ~6 months. I constantly have problems with internet in School. I always have 0 or 1 bar in class and in bathrooms. This is a major problem for me, the consumer.
I am using the Serendipity 6.3 and the hardcore speedmod kernel. I am on AT&T. I live in North New Jersey.
Someone told me 1900 doesnt penatrate walls as well as 850 so I switched my modem to I9000UGJL2 (Froyo) found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
This seems to have improved my internet connection speed, but I still seem to not have any internet and 0 to 1 bars in most class rooms and bathrooms.
When I get really close to the Window my bars go up and internet is there again and when I go outside I am also able to access sites again.
Because of this I am planning on switching to either Sprint of Verizon. I don't want to switch to the Evo 4g considering the Captivate Hardware surpasses the Evo 4g's. I have talked to a few friends and I am aware both Sprint and Verizon phones have internet in my school. My friend went on multiple websites in front of me on his droid on the Verizon network while I was not able to.
Any suggestions?
Please Help! Thanks.
its just the reception and wave length, not much will change it
ryanmahan said:
its just the reception and wave length, not much will change it
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But why do people have internet on Verizon and I don't? Verizon just dominates in NJ?
You could try putting your phone down while your at school and doing some work.
CB650 Wolf said:
You could try putting your phone down while your at school and doing some work.
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My grades are high. I own an online business so I constantly have to talk to staff online and when I have no internet this is impossible.
I am planning to switch to Verizon this week. I will buy myself the HTC ThunderBolt 4G and my mother the Samsung Convoy U640.
Verizon has better coverage... And are you using h or 3g?
Try using 3g if you were using h... But verizon would be much nicer
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Eksellent said:
My grades are high. I own an online business so I constantly have to talk to staff online and when I have no internet this is impossible.
I am planning to switch to Verizon this week. I will buy myself the HTC ThunderBolt 4G and my mother the Samsung Convoy U640.
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You could try flashing jk4... If not jvk or kc1....
I work in a car plant And it is huge and barricaded by walls and am on a constant H.... Modems, do vary by region, im in ohio....
Hope this helps... The modem thread should help out as well..
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Eksellent said:
I have talked to a few friends and I am aware both Sprint and Verizon phones have internet in my school.
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There could be a Sprint and Verizon cell tower in your campus.

At&t note or international note for use with T-Mobile 4g unlimited plan?

Anybody's feedback or expierence much appreciated
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Need LTE?
If you answered "yes" go to 1.
If you answered "no" go to 2.
1. Galaxy Note l717 LTE
2. Galaxy Note GT-N7000
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Need LTE?
If you answered "yes" go to 1.
If you answered "no" go to 2.
1. Galaxy Note l717 LTE
2. Galaxy Note GT-N7000
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Well I'm on T-Mobile 4g unlimited data plan
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Seriously, dude? An extremely quick Google search would give you the answer.
For starters, the AT-T version of the Note will not natively let you use T-Mobile, period. DUH! You can easily hack it to unlock it...and within the last week, someone discovered that flashing a modem file from another phone allows you full access to T-Mobile's 3G/4G network. The International Note (GT-N7000) will only allow you access to EDGE speeds on T-Mobile...what I'm on now.
So, it's your choice.
smalmagal said:
Seriously, dude? An extremely quick Google search would give you the answer.
For starters, the AT-T version of the Note will not natively let you use T-Mobile, period. DUH! You can easily hack it to unlock it...and within the last week, someone discovered that flashing a modem file from another phone allows you full access to T-Mobile's 3G/4G network. The International Note (GT-N7000) will only allow you access to EDGE speeds on T-Mobile...what I'm on now.
So, it's your choice.
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I know I read about all what u said, but hows your edge on T-Mobile?
I was just wanting peoples feedback I've read the unlocked international is way faster then at&ts version but of course I'd unlock the att phone
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How's my EDGE? ****ing slow! You won't ever pull more than 200kbps or so down at peak...that's EDGE by default though. It's a completely asinine thing to even have EDGE networks anymore. It's ever more asinine that T-Mobile is so slow at "re-farming" their 1900 band to work with 3G. I tried switching to Straight Talk, but I just got an email today actually that they can't verify my information? :-/
So if speed is a concern to you...go with the AT-T version. Though, you'll miss out on all the tremendous development here...which I think is more important than speed.
Edit: I've done speed test, where it's slower than 28.8k dial-up, and it brings back terrible childhood memories.
Wonder if u an flashthe T-Mobile modem on the international version
thanks for your feedback
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rg1973 said:
Wonder if u an flashthe T-Mobile modem on the international version
thanks for your feedback
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Edit nevermind the international will never be capable of 4glte speeds so never would it have 4g T-Mobile data
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T-Mobile does not have LTE yet...and no this phone will never be capable of LTE. Who cares though? You honestly want a phone that can download at 343455MBPS and eat through your costly data plan in half an hour? You won't be able to tell the difference loading a web page at 5MBPS vs 50MBPS...or how ever fast LTE is supposed to be. It's all a marketing scam, just like the notion of a "limited" supply of bandwidth that all mobile manufactures force feed people with their outrageous prices and stupid caps.
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T-Mobile does not have LTE yet...and no this phone will never be capable of LTE. Who cares though? You honestly want a phone that can download at 343455MBPS and eat through your costly data plan in half an hour? You won't be able to tell the difference loading a web page at 5MBPS vs 50MBPS...or how ever fast LTE is supposed to be. It's all a marketing scam, just like the notion of a "limited" supply of bandwidth that all mobile manufactures force feed people with their outrageous prices and stupid caps.
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So would u get the international over the att I'm using tmobile4g 60 unlimited plan 2gb of 4g data then after 2g is used it goes to 2g per month or leave tmobile and try straight talk I'm not in a contract btw
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No contract? That's simple then! Straight Talk plus International...you get the best phone, and you don't have to go directly through AT-T...it's a win win! :-D
Trying to got Straight Talk myself, but they seem not to like the fact that I'm trying to use my T-Mobile number with an AT-T SIM...plus I have a 200 dollar contract cancellation fee. I wish I was in your boat.
As others have said, coming from Tmo myself, the choice is to get the international version with Straight Talk or the ATT version and keep T mobile. Honestly, I feel that this phone is a media hog and deserves LTE, as well as an unlimited plan.
Yes you will miss out on development, but if you are satisfied with the stock software then you will not miss much.
I had a feeling a while back while reading the i717 spec sheet that it would work with tmo, and decided to go with Straight Talk. Not a bad plan, but definitely on the slower end of 3G
I would honestly go with whatever comes out cheaper, if it does so by a margin of 100+ dollars
I got the att version In White cheaper than I could find a unlocked international black one, ordered a straight talk sim ill try this out If it sucks ill go unlock and do the T-Mobile hack. I really would of got the international by couldn't find a white one at a good price. I hope I don't regret it looks as the development for the international unlocked is way ahead. My question is would straight talk on the international and att been the same speeds?
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Just got back from Paris. There were H+ networks there which were blindingly fast on the International version. However, I was concerned about exceeding the 50MB usage per day on my Vodafone-IE PAYG SIM, so I stayed on GPRS (yes, GPRS, no EDGE there).
Incidentally, I had no trouble with PAYG SIM card usage. The biggest failing is that if you continue a session beyond midnight without logging off, it keeps you on the previous day's allowance. That actually worked to my advantage, doing the bigger downloads over the midnight hour, to fill the previous day's 50MB. Sigh. The joys of International Roaming.
But at least the Samsung N7000 was faultless. What an incredible phone. Rooted, and stripped to bare bones (but still with Touchwiz) I get less than 1% an hour battery usage. A full day of intermittent (normal) usage left me with 46% after 24 hours. Unbelievable. Why did I bother to buy a spare battery???
trevmar said:
Just got back from Paris. There were H+ networks there which were blindingly fast on the International version. However, I was concerned about exceeding the 50MB usage per day on my Vodafone-IE PAYG SIM, so I stayed on GPRS (yes, GPRS, no EDGE there).
Incidentally, I had no trouble with PAYG SIM card usage. The biggest failing is that if you continue a session beyond midnight without logging off, it keeps you on the previous day's allowance. That actually worked to my advantage, doing the bigger downloads over the midnight hour, to fill the previous day's 50MB. Sigh. The joys of International Roaming.
But at least the Samsung N7000 was faultless. What an incredible phone. Rooted, and stripped to bare bones (but still with Touchwiz) I get less than 1% an hour battery usage. A full day of intermittent (normal) usage left me with 46% after 24 hours. Unbelievable. Why did I bother to buy a spare battery???
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Wow that's some good battery... What software? Did you by any chance make a flashable zip?
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Oh crap no LTE but still happy at Google move..

The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. Every Nexus 4 will be an unlocked device, and while that means no more pointless waiting for software updates (looking at you Verizon Galaxy Nexus), it also means no LTE radios.
The other small letdown is the phone's meager onboard storage options. The Nexus 4 starts at $299 with 8GB; $349 gets you 16GB
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HSPA+ is fast enough.
Agreed.. but still $300 for an unlocked smartphone with those specs!!!!
You'd be stupid to pass up such a sweet deal! I'll gladly get over lte for that price
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But this really concerns me the point of a quad-core when you don't have the storage to download more than 1-2 games that will utilize the specs? For example, most Gameloft and EA games that could use these specs are easily 1.8 gb or more. On an 8gb phone, unless you use cloud services, I'll cry within a few months for sure. I wish Google can ditch the idea of having only internal storage (Yeah !!! Like that's ever gonna happen but still) and come up with external storage like on the S3 and note 2 .. a 32gb MicroSD card for all my music, videos, camera pictures, files etc..
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if I go with this I would use the USB OTG and stickmount app I use on my nexus 7. I've done pretty good using dropbox and a 16gb flash drive with my 8gb N7. Wondering if the photo sphere will be able to be ported to my Sprint SG3. And yeah 300 for a phone and no commitment is awesome.
Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
Euler MD said:
HSPA+ is fast enough.
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Agreed. Even though is nice to have the feature, HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.
I'm grandfathered into Unlimited LTE with Verizon... WTH am I supposed to do?!? I'm assuming I either have to wait it out OR jump on the Note 2
eyan2011 said:
The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. p
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Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
bozzykid said:
Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
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Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
Nospin said:
Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
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T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
bozzykid said:
T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
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I suspect all that will be required is a different software radio, not hardware.
SeatownGST said:
Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
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None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
albundy2010 said:
None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
Sweet.. im almost gonna finish my job in india by the time I head back home i can depend on t mobile... and sell my unlocked s3 for public purpose and keep my note 2 for gaming, artist and business related purposes...... cuz im soooooooo gonna get the nexus 10... the screen ppi & battery.. this tablet screen hands down beats any ipads or any tablets on the market... Nexus 10 is a beast...
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The Verge article for those who missed it http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte I hope this pushes carriers to be more open.
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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Same here...I get like 5 down and 1.5-2 up on my 7.2 mbit radio so anything will be an upgrade. I suspect the Nexus 4 will top out around 10-12 down and the same 1.5-2 up on T-Mobile.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Bingo. The 3G service is deprecated and the apps are requesting more and more data. So when you initially said "none" you were completely wrong. For example, the WSDOT app I used now is updated, and slower than ever. It gets a GPS lock then just grinds forever trying to sync up the map and traffic advisory overlays. That's all data. Since I am paying for smartphone monthly usage, I am wasting money now by continuing with 3G. It makes zero sense to perpetuate paying for 3G service. It's not a buzzword when it's a significant upgrade in throughput, and it can be any other acronym and I'd use that just as much.
I still think google is off their rocker to "wait it out" as they put it. And the Maxx HD television advertisement says it can do voice and data at the same time, on Verizon... if true, that would be pretty huge for us Verizon folks and our terrible CDMA 3G access, going to LTE and simultaneous voice/data.
There is a difference between the gsm networks that the phone will actually run on and the CDMA /lte a Verizon or Sprint version would.
When people say I can't go without lte over att / T-Mobile networks for those tasks its rubbish to me.
Sure sprints and Verizon 3g is awful and I would never go back to them ( or have been on them in the first place) but we aren't comparing lte speeds to those. Its against the unlocked gsm networks.
Verizon network is great coverage wise. So is its lte speeds and coverage. Those are valid reasons to be with them and not switch.
But that I can't leave my lte speeds for a unlocked gsm phone because of the speed for the most basic smart phone tasks .is nonsense to me. That is what I am seeing more and more off. The omg I can't live without my lte /buzzword crap.

[Q] 3G = usable?

Well, I've had this phone for a good 3 months now. I used to have an S2 with H+. I'm not exactly sure how fast 3G(EVDO) is supposed to be, but I'm assuming I should be able to, at the very least, do a Google search. I can barely browse sometimes on LTE, let alone 3G.
Well, today, my buddy showed be a website on his Verizon iPhone 4. It was, at the very least, ten times faster than my browsing experience. It felt as fast as my Wi-fi!
This raises a serious question for me:
Is the HTC One slow? Or is it just Sprint being Sprint? Because I have yet to see such browsing speeds, even in strong(ish) LTE areas.
I have only the One on Sprint, so I have nothing to test it against, but can Sprint's 3G be that bad? Can verizon's 3G be that good?
Are you guys able to browse comfortably on 3G? Is my device defective?
I have no idea. I just want to be able to use my mobile phone as a mobile phone. As in, able to use the internet outside of my house. It's very frustrating sometimes when I want to look something up and the connection times out.
So, how fast is your browsing experience?
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Well, I've had this phone for a good 3 months now. I used to have an S2 with H+. I'm not exactly sure how fast 3G(EVDO) is supposed to be, but I'm assuming I should be able to, at the very least, do a Google search. I can barely browse sometimes on LTE, let alone 3G.
Well, today, my buddy showed be a website on his Verizon iPhone 4. It was, at the very least, ten times faster than my browsing experience. It felt as my Wi-fi!
This raises a serious question for me:
Is the HTC One slow? Or is it just Sprint being Sprint? Because I have yet to see such browsing speeds, even in strong(ish) LTE areas.
I have only the One on Sprint, so I have nothing to test it against, but can Sprint's 3G be that bad? Can verizon's 3G be that good?
Are you guys able to browse comfortably on 3G? Is my device defective?
I have no idea. I just want to be able to use my mobile phone as a mobile phone. As in, able to use the internet outside of my house. It's very frustrating sometimes when I want to look something up and the connection times out.
So, how fast is your browsing experience?
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3g maxs out at around 2-3 mbps I'm not sure but this is the limitation of the evdo technology that's is being used. Sprints internet service has been decreasing over the years probably due to their backhaul but as network vision is being applied your data speed rates should be increasing. Verizon has fast 3g because of their network as of now sprint is playing the catch up game but it shouldn't be that long until it's there. If you just want ur mobile phone to work like a mobile phone shouldnt that just be calls?
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3g maxs out at around 2-3 mbps I'm not sure but this is the limitation of the evdo technology that's is being used. Sprints internet service has been decreasing over the years probably due to their backhaul but as network vision is being applied your data speed rates should be increasing. Verizon has fast 3g because of their network as of now sprint is playing the catch up game but it shouldn't be that long until it's there. If you just want ur mobile phone to work like a mobile phone shouldnt that just be calls?
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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It's just sprint ... Sprint made a bad call when they invested in wimax while others like Verizon went lte ... Verizon's 3g is pretty fast especially now that a ton of their devices prioritize lte.
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sauprankul said:
To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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If ur really fedup with sprints 3g u can always SIM unlock and load up a at& or tmobile SIM and use their 3g. Theres also just leaving sprint completely and going to another company
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If ur really fedup with sprints 3g u can always SIM unlock and load up a at& or tmobile SIM and use their 3g. Theres also just leaving sprint completely and going to another company
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Can I tell Sprint that I'm getting crappy-a$$ speeds and ask for a free contract termination? Or, at least, a discounted ETF?
I don't wanna pay $1000+ for phones I'll have to sell for like <$300 each.
sauprankul said:
To the question: No. By mobile, I mean being able to move around. Smartphones are the new definition of mobile phones.
And 2-3 megs on 3g? Ha! That's a good one... I barely get 2 on LTE. I get like 80kbps, if even, on 3G. Is there something wrong with my phone or is it just Sprint?
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I don't have any problems with 3g or lte. There was problem for a month, or so when they were working on lte towers. Brooklyn, NY. The only thing that I didn't update radios.
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In Manhattan on the other hand speed is not good at all.
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I don't have any problems with 3g or lte. There was problem for a month, or so when they were working on lte towers. Brooklyn, NY. The only thing that I didn't update radios.View attachment 2161342
In Manhattan on the other hand speed is not good at all.
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In absolute disbelief at your 3G speeds. Do you think that the problems around South Bay area are because of Network Vision upgrades and LTE? The Sprint rep told me, when I bought my phone, that we would get LTE by August (this month).
I really like this phone, and Sprints prices are very reasonable. How long do you think before South bay gets a stable 3G network?
sauprankul said:
Can I tell Sprint that I'm getting crappy-a$$ speeds and ask for a free contract termination? Or, at least, a discounted ETF?
I don't wanna pay $1000+ for phones I'll have to sell for like <$300 each.
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Very unlikely you'll get any adjustments towards contract termination. If you happen to get ahold of a sympathetic Care rep, they may be able to reimburse you x amount of dollars per x months, but that's probably going to be about it. They give you 14 days to "try" their network. If you did not cancel within that 14 days, you are stating that you are OK with everything and agree to roll with it for 2 years.
As far as speed issues, I have seen ups and downs as well. I believe ever since the Network Vision expansion, Sprint has devoted less attention to general tower maintenance on the whole and more towards beefing up for future performance. Therefore a local cell site with a capacity issue does not get repaired/upgraded/tweaked as fast as it should, and all of a sudden your phone is pinging towers even further away just to establish data connection, hence the lower speeds and reliability.
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In absolute disbelief at your 3G speeds. Do you think that the problems around South Bay area are because of Network Vision upgrades and LTE? The Sprint rep told me, when I bought my phone, that we would get LTE by August (this month).
I really like this phone, and Sprints prices are very reasonable. How long do you think before South bay gets a stable 3G network?
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I live in union city and I have ****ty 3g and spotty 4g but I see a bunch of areas lighting up with 4g... The roll out has been slow. I checked the sprint website and if I search for my address it says I have lte in my are which I don't
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Man. I wish I had read up more about Sprint. I would have known about how much of a failure wimax was and would have stayed away.
Well, here I am.
My other concern is: Does anybody have a different brand of phone on Sprint and get better data speeds? I am utterly shocked that data speeds could be so slow in Silicon valley. Its really hard to believe that Sprint is so bad that it barely covers the 680 and 101 here.
Really, the slow speeds limit basic functions like searching and browsing. Forget about streaming and downloading.
sauprankul said:
Man. I wish I had read up more about Sprint. I would have known about how much of a failure wimax was and would have stayed away.
Well, here I am.
My other concern is: Does anybody have a different brand of phone on Sprint and get better data speeds? I am utterly shocked that data speeds could be so slow in Silicon valley. Its really hard to believe that Sprint is so bad that it barely covers the 680 and 101 here.
Really, the slow speeds limit basic functions like searching and browsing. Forget about streaming and downloading.
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I've had almost all devices on sprint and it makes no difference the speed is crap. Only reason I'm still with sprint is because my business pays for it.
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I get about 700kbit download and 600kbit upload on average which is good enough for browsing and video calls but forget about downloading 50+mb apps.As long as texts work all the time and I can roam for free I'm good to go.
Just remembered thanks to that guy mentioning roaming. Apperently people in the past people would flash a Verizon prl that would allow them access to their 3g service by forcing roam. After a while sprint would message them via a letter or something telling them they are excessively roam and their account will be terminated. This was a method that some were using to get out of their sprint contracts without having to pay the etf. Although this is morally indecent so it is up to u to try it. I don't know how the results for u will come out though since u just opened ur account just tossing it out there
Lmao!!! This is the very reason there is a sick of sprint thread. 3g is not usable in most areas. I was with them for 10 years b4 I finally got myself kicked off and went to att. Their data speeds are disappointing. I was never able to stream a YouTube video. I do think that call quality was a little better on sprint tho. I would suggest anybody who wants to use their networks data DO NOT GO WITH SPRINT
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N0wy0ud1e said:
I get about 700kbit download and 600kbit upload on average which is good enough for browsing and video calls but forget about downloading 50+mb apps.As long as texts work all the time and I can roam for free I'm good to go.
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I would kill for this. Maybe 10 days out the the year I get 1500kbits for some reason. The rest of the time? 150kbits down. LTE I usually get about 2. I'm located in a major city along the east coast, 10 miles from the ocean.
gmfeny said:
Lmao!!! This is the very reason there is a sick of sprint thread. 3g is not usable in most areas. I was with them for 10 years b4 I finally got myself kicked off and went to att. Their data speeds are disappointing. I was never able to stream a YouTube video. I do think that call quality was a little better on sprint tho. I would suggest anybody who wants to use their networks data DO NOT GO WITH SPRINT
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I'm desperate people. I can't go along with this kind of service. I would be perfectly happy with 2 megs down. I dont need 30 megs down or whatever, and chances are, if Sprint has never really taken the effort to put decent 3G around here, they probably won't with 4G.
So about the roaming thing... Will I really get kicked out without an ETF? I think I can because I technically didn't ask them to kick me off, right? I just ended up accidentally roaming a bit too much. Does anybody have experience with the roaming loophole? Will I be able to keep this phone or what? Will they give me roaming fees? Is Verizon's 3G going to be that much faster?
sauprankul said:
I'm desperate people. I can't go along with this kind of service. I would be perfectly happy with 2 megs down. I dont need 30 megs down or whatever, and chances are, if Sprint has never really taken the effort to put decent 3G around here, they probably won't with 4G.
So about the roaming thing... Will I really get kicked out without an ETF? I think I can because I technically didn't ask them to kick me off, right? I just ended up accidentally roaming a bit too much. Does anybody have experience with the roaming loophole? Will I be able to keep this phone or what? Will they give me roaming fees? Is Verizon's 3G going to be that much faster?
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Lol yes sir I just got kicked off July 23rd but I switched to att the day I found out I could. I would just stay with a Verizon prl not like 00003 or something and you have to do it for at least 3 months in a row. I would leave my phone downloaded torrents every night before I go to bed. At least a couple gbs in size. Sprint didn't kick me off right away tho. I did this in December January and February then I eventually gave up BC I didn't think they would boot me. Then in June they sent the letter saying my service would be disconnected ETF FREE!!! So I Porte's my number to att and the rest is history
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Lol yes sir I just got kicked off July 23rd but I switched to att the day I found out I could. I would just stay with a Verizon prl not like 00003 or something and you have to do it for at least 3 months in a row. I would leave my phone downloaded torrents every night before I go to bed. At least a couple gbs in size. Sprint didn't kick me off right away tho. I did this in December January and February then I eventually gave up BC I didn't think they would boot me. Then in June they sent the letter saying my service would be disconnected ETF FREE!!! So I Porte's my number to att and the rest is history
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Seems very doable if I set up a hotspot.
Just to confirm, does anybody else have experience with this? Are there any fees involved? This sounds too good to be true. I've looked this up online, and I see very few people who actually tried this and reported back.
But if I get to keep my phone and sell it and leave Sprint and go to AT&T and not have to worry about fees then I'll definitely do this with no hesitation.
Honestly, it's all about your location.
In areas with no Network Vision upgrades and ancient T1 backhauls, sprint's 3G is going to basically be unusable. While the EVDO towers can easily handle 1.5-2mbit of speed, the backhaul is so clogged that you are lucky to get 128kbps. (.1mbit)
I disabled the 4G Radio in my phone and did several speed tests on EVDO. This was in peak usage time (~1PM). I live in Maryland and I am in the Baltimore market rollout. This is a Network Vision tower, with 4G LTE I am connected to. The backhauls are fully upgraded with fiber. My speeds mostly sat around 1.7-1.8mbit. Enough to stream music on the go, load web pages, stream 360p youtube.
http://imgur.com/a/ygmHN
If you live in an area that is getting a 4G LTE rollout, the 3G speeds will definitely increase - and will probably be equal to those 3G speeds of the other CDMA provider - Verizon.
Then I enabled the 4G radio in my phone, ran another set of sets. About the same time (~1PM.)
http://imgur.com/a/4clVb
My average during peak times is anywhere from 5-9mbit down, with 3-5mbit up. Easily enough to stream HQ Music, HQ Youtube, quickly load web content, and even some HD netflix worked without problem.
During off-peak times, I easily speed test at 15-16mbit down, and 7-8mbit up.
http://imgur.com/a/MJbZc
My favorite has to be off-peak times. After about 11pm, everything is amazing. I can do multiple things online without issues. Tether to my PC, stream music, download files, ect. I've hit 16mbit down pretty easily, and I'm actually pretty far away from the tower. My RSSI is generally about 110-113dBm, which is getting to the edge of usability. I never lose my connection. (75 is right next to the tower, 120 is the edge of the signal.)

Sprint network is horrendous.

Been waiting for the 4g since 2010 and I've had enough. Time to go to T-Mobile.
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thinking about doing the same thing, I'm in Queens and it sucks haha
just worried about building penetration with them, especially in NYC
Yeah I hear you. I got sold on it today at work. One of my guys has been with T-Mobile for years I did a speed test and you see the results. He did it with his Samsung note 3 and got 29 mbps download and close to the same on upload. Frigging amazing. It's faster then my Wi-Fi on comcast at home. Time to make a move. Sad thing is I've been with sprint since 2000. Gonna be weird.
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I have been with Sprint over 10 years now. I don't know how much more I can take either. The network is so unstable in my area. Constant dropped calls, 3G is to the point where even at full signal I have to do toggle airplane mode for it to kinda work sometimes. 4G signal strength is a joke. Tri band is coming very soon but I'm just so so so tired of waiting.
You think your speeds are bad?
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Here are results from my newly upgraded Network Vision Tower not even a mile away from me just down the road.
Sprint 3G with "great signal".
Verizon 3G will usually run faster than 4G Sprint LTE. Even though I'm very close to the tower, it constantly cuts in and out. The speed sucks.
Thank god for Comcast. I know a lot of people hate them but I am very happy with my connection except for netflix congestion which should be fixed soon. I usually am above my rated speed even at peek times.
My tower is absolutely pathetic. They aren't all done but my tower has been borked since July of 2013. Now 3G pretty much doesn't work at all.
The only thing that is nice is I now have an HD Voice tower which does sound awesome when it works when talking to someone else with Sprint on an upgraded tower. That's if it can actually hold a call.
Dan Hesse is still promising a Super 4G network to rival the competition when he did a recent interview on Mad Money seen here.
The build out is taking way too long. I know a new network is not built overnight but it's absolutely awful. It's so bad my local news did a story on it cause so many viewers were calling in wanting them to do a story.
I'm still holding out for Tri-Band is the only hope left, but I just don't know how much more I can take.
At least your guys 3G "works" if you want to call those speeds "working"
I have the same results in maplewod, voice in my house is terrible always getting dropped. I manage to get pretty good 4g in bloomington, but I am not in bloomington that often. perhaps if sprint actually buys t-mobile that will help things along.
drifty999 said:
I have the same results in maplewod, voice in my house is terrible always getting dropped. I manage to get pretty good 4g in bloomington, but I am not in bloomington that often. perhaps if sprint actually buys t-mobile that will help things along.
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A lot of the towers around here are just borked. What I have been reading it's the hand off between new equipment to older legacy equipment. So eventually it should all be replaced but yea pretty much anywhere in the metro it sucks big time. Most of our towers should be getting 800 MHz & 2.5 GHz LTE in the coming months. I will be upgrading to the next HTC in tri-band flavor. We *should* see awesome speeds on the 2.5 GHz band since we were in a wimax market. We will see how the handoffs go between the 3 frequencies. I'm expecting dumped signals & dropped connection but it's suppose to be seamless.
The fastest I got out of Sprint
Here's what I'm looking at
And that's after most of the university students went home for spring break. Usually at 4 AM the speeds skyrocket though I've hit the max that our 3G supports (I probably have insomnia)
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Here's what I'm looking at (IMG quote removed)
And that's after most of the university students went home for spring break. Usually at 4 AM the speeds skyrocket though I've hit the max that our 3G supports (I probably have insomnia)
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I don't have any problems for the most part in the north east. Almost always 4g (LTE) and only occasionally does it drop to 3g while driving on highways.
I can stream netflix while driving and it only occasionally has to buffer.

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