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Hello all,
i have had root for a while now using cyanogens 4.2.12.2 with the ram hack, ok the thing im confused with is i have 2 partittions fat32 and ext3 for the a2sd but whenever i install a app it installs to internal memory, do i need linux swap aswell ?
Thanks Alot Ryan​
What size is your ext3? And by installs to internal memory, do you mean it goes down a bit for each install, or does it go down the total app size? Even with A2SD you still use up a little internal memory. As well, if you run out of space on the ext3, it will install to the internal memory. It should work just fine out of the box with no need to do anything crazy on your part.
well im using 2gb sd with 600mb ext3, well i installed 8apps and it went from 71.91mb to 71.02 is this normal and thanks for the quick response
That is very normal, if it wasn't working you would have seen it go from 71.91 to 50 type thing. That small amount taken up is normal.
ok then thanks alot for your help
how should i partition my 2gb stock Kingston sd card because i am currently using Sparksmod 2.1 Rom and they require a ext3 or ext4 partition so i parititoned my sd card with a 32 mb linux swap partition and 512 mb ext 3 partition. At first everything was fine, but after a few weeksd my phone is REALLY SLOW and unstable.
EDIT: FAT 32 has 1423 MB
What should i do? Did i partition it the wrong way.
Upgrade you EXT to 4. See if that help.
BeenAndroidized said:
Upgrade you EXT to 4. See if that help.
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Ext2/3/4 has nothing to do with slowing down, most likely it's swap, especially when swappiness is set too high ...
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AndDiSa said:
Ext2/3/4 has nothing to do with slowing down, most likely it's swap, especially when swappiness is set too high ...
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I was thinking about that too, but since the SD card was only 2GB, space is limited. May be making the swap to 128MB instead of 62MB. might help then. And set the swappiness to the middle setting.
BeenAndroidized said:
I was thinking about that too, but since the SD card was only 2GB, space is limited. May be making the swap to 128MB instead of 62MB. might help then. And set the swappiness to the middle setting.
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It would be better to renounce on swap completely. If there is no chance, set swappiness at most to 20-30, but this depends also on your "profile", i.e. what apps you are using, what services are running, etc.
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Im not even sure if my phone is using swap at all and the rom doesnt need you to have swap so should i remove the 32 mb linux swap partition then?
Oh and i checked and i am not using swap
so if its not the swap then could it be the apps2sd ext?
Cuz i read somewhere that apps2sd makes the phone take longer to run apps
and this is what is happening to my phone the apps are lagging it, when i launch them they take at least 5 seconds to load, and when i use the browser my phone becomes really unstable.
Startup time for apps stored on sd-ext may be a bit longer, but do not change over the time. Are you using also data on sd? This might be a problem, if not, there must be something different ...
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how can i check if i am using data on the sd?
Hi buddies ;p
I have one question...how can i enable swap partition on my ace?
I have kph rom + ext4 + CWM + cf-root 3.7
I try to use swapper ane swapper 2 app...
Swapper 2 doesn't work good...it's crashed on create a swap file
Swapper seems that he work well..create swap file well then i reboot my phone and it still doesnt work...on setcpu swap has 0kb...
Are there any ways for do it?
Get CF-Root Kernel b80, DarkTremor App2SD for CF-Root Kernel and A2SDGUI from Market for easy setup.
All can be found at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158197
Using a SDcard with swap partition will only cause lags unless and until you have a class 6 or greater SDcard,
Also Having swap partition on sdcard is not good for the health of the SDcard has no. of read and writes increases dramatically
yeah i know that the health of our memory decreases but if i had a 6 class of sd this swap help me for performance my pda or not?
Is this useful?does 4th class is sufficient?
Hmm i have apps2sd and in the tweak manager i didn't selected "Dt: auto start" and i dont have a dtapps2sd script...so i have to install it?
Can i upgrade my kernel from b70 to b82?
btw: which kernel is the best b78-b80 or b82?For upgrade to b80 i have to flash this file CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b80_boot.zip or i have to flash it with odin?I dont understund very well....
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ebreo said:
yeah i know that the health of our memory decreases but if i had a 6 class of sd this swap help me for performance my pda or not?
Is this useful?does 4th class is sufficient?
Hmm i have apps2sd and in the tweak manager i didn't selected "Dt: auto start" and i dont have a dtapps2sd script...so i have to install it?
Can i upgrade my kernel from b70 to b82?
btw: which kernel is the best b78-b80 or b82?For upgrade to b80 i have to flash this file CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b80_boot.zip or i have to flash it with odin?I dont understund very well....
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What rom are you using?
look at my first post fw kph 2.3.4
Cf-root
ebreo said:
look at my first post fw kph 2.3.4
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There are many 2.3.4 roms... gingerreal, flash... in this case use the latest cf-root
CF-Root-S5830-v3.7-b82.Just flash the zip. Does not suport swap or BLN for now.
Install also the updated ext4 Manager.
what is it bln?
Which is better b80 or b82?
If i install b80, swap start with him?
thx for replies ;p
BLN is button light notification. It uses your button lights as would LED of other phones work, which is to blink when you have message or missed call.
B82 doesn't support that nor does it support swap.
er.davinder said:
Using a SDcard with swap partition will only cause lags unless and until you have a class 6 or greater SDcard,
Also Having swap partition on sdcard is not good for the health of the SDcard has no. of read and writes increases dramatically
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I had no problem using my class4 with swap partition, encountered no noticeable lag.
Had to remove it though before flashing KPO.
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One thing to note: lower class SD card is probably going to perform better because the random access on lower class SD cards is better than Class 10. Class 10 is generally better throughput at the expense of random access. Since you should rarely be swapping, it's usually a waste of time. Better off using a RAM tweak such as Supercharger.
i upgraded to b80 but swap still doesn't work...why?
Did you make a swap partition on your SD Card?
how can i do it?
ebreo said:
how can i do it?
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clockwork recovery -> advanced -> partition sd card
I'm using official CM 7.2 and also have the problem of low memory (damn; my older HTC Wildfire (v1) never had this issue; this older/slower budgetphone has much more memory on board)
I made a swappartition; it cannot be mounted as swappartition... by neither swapper2 or swapper.
Since i'm using S2E i actually wanted to use the internal memory of my phone for the swapfile (or tried that one too, cuz it's not being used when loading apps...) but i couldn't save my .SWP file over there. Also on my fat partition (1st partition on the sd card) i wasn't able to get my swapfile working... (it was being created, but that's all....)
When i was using the nightlies of CM 7 i was hoping this was an issue they would resolve when the final was released; as CM7 on my wildfire has no problem at all to use swapfiles...
Anyone info on how to get swapfiles when using CM7 (official)?
I have a samsung galaxy ace ...i wanted to know is it possible to increase stock ram I.e. 278mb to 512 mb / 1gb like we do in computers & does it create any problems in cell later I mean will it function properly and where can I get Ram .
vj1 said:
I have a samsung galaxy ace ...i wanted to know is it possible to increase stock ram I.e. 278mb to 512 mb / 1gb like we do in computers & does it create any problems in cell later I mean will it function properly and where can I get Ram .
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No sorry..its not possible.Howevver you can use swap but that has a negative effect on memory card
vj1 said:
I have a samsung galaxy ace ...i wanted to know is it possible to increase stock ram I.e. 278mb to 512 mb / 1gb like we do in computers & does it create any problems in cell later I mean will it function properly and where can I get Ram .
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Its a phone, not a pc :/
such technology doesn't even exist yet.
i think u can try to use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1659231
Increase RAM using Swap File and Swap Partition
Followed the guide in the above link but can't get swap to work. Rom is 2.3.6 Stock Rooted and BusyBox installed. But keeps failing. Has anyone been successful with Swapper 2 on stock rooted firmware? Before anyone says don't bother or not worth it, I would like to say irrespective I would like to try and see for myself.
Swap needs compatible kernel which stock doesn't have ..flash cf-root then use swap and kill sdcard at the speed of light
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madman said:
Swap needs compatible kernel which stock doesn't have ..flash cf-root then use swap and kill sdcard at the speed of light
Sent from Galaxy Ace which just landed on "MOON"
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swap kills your sd card !!!! real fast !!!! killed mine!
though it did giv me some performance boost
Swap partition will be used as ram.
So, "n" no of read and write will happen depending upon the swapiness value.
It will spoil your memory card.
And another thing is your memory card shoud be very fast to maintain performance (higher class).
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Kingston SD Cards come with a lifetime warranty so if it does kill it, they should replace it. It's a shame that you require cf-root because I don't like the fact that CF-Root changes the startup logo and add Clockwork Mod which my idea of stock is not. Is there any other ways?
Gizmotech said:
Kingston SD Cards come with a lifetime warranty so if it does kill it, they should replace it. It's a shame that you require cf-root because I don't like the fact that CF-Root changes the startup logo and add Clockwork Mod which my idea of stock is not. Is there any other ways?
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Yes they do replace it.But many people dont have backups of their data so for them losing sd card is a real trouble.Now,No stock recovery works after rooting.It is unable to mount partitions so most of CWM flashable packages wont work.still,If you want to have stock recovery back then head to dev. section,find the thread for stock recovery and flash it.
Wooooow boy r u sure you're in the current time. Its 2012 now. . Jokes and no think about it, would it reasonable for a manufactury to do that? think about it in a bussines way. For the moment if you feel like you need more ram just create a swap partition. class 6 or above SD card is suggested and don't worry about the SD lifetime so much you r not gonna have the same phone or SD for like 20 years anyway. R u ? Let me know if you need help with partitioning your SD and I'd appreciate it if you press the thanks button. Also I have a swap partion on my SD its much better and I haven't ran into problems. Its true that it decreases the lifetime but it's not like what you think
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Well I have replaced Kingston SD Cards in the past under manufacturer warranty without any problems and as for losing data, that is also not an issue for me thanks to dropbox and automatic camera uploader. As for other phones, the apps, contacts, etc are backed up by google so it is not a big of an issue as many are making it...well at least for me anyway. I just want to give it a go but at the same time I don't want to leave stock. Please don't ask me why as it is self preference and I have explained in other threads why I prefer stock over custom firmware and really do not wish to go into a debate regarding this.
You talk about a Swap Partition. I was under the impression for that a custom Kernal is required. As I am on stock, I would have thought that running the created swap file at boot should do the trick without having to partition a bit of the SD card to Linux Swap. Is that not the whole idea of the Swap File as opposed to a Swap partition?
The device: Samsung Galaxy Mini GT-S5570
Anroid version: 2.3.6
Rom: emanoN V7
Using: SetCPU: 787 MHz Max 245 MHz Min
AutoMemoryManager: Mild
Link2SD: 1Gb partition SDext2
This phone has almost 2 years now, and a year ago I decided to improve it. However 5 major problems stil persist (I decided to create a separate thread for each one of them).
One of them is that even though I've created a partition in the SD card, and linked or moved all apps to the SD, my internal memory is still near to full. What is taking so much space? Where can I free up space?
wilcocsjr said:
The device: Samsung Galaxy Mini GT-S5570
Anroid version: 2.3.6
Rom: emanoN V7
Using: SetCPU: 787 MHz Max 245 MHz Min
AutoMemoryManager: Mild
Link2SD: 1Gb partition SDext2
This phone has almost 2 years now, and a year ago I decided to improve it. However 5 major problems stil persist (I decided to create a separate thread for each one of them).
One of them is that even though I've created a partition in the SD card, and linked or moved all apps to the SD, my internal memory is still near to full. What is taking so much space? Where can I free up space?
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when I link apps to SD partition I reboot the phone. then I get the free space the apps were keeping..try it.....
wilcocsjr said:
The device: Samsung Galaxy Mini GT-S5570
Anroid version: 2.3.6
Rom: emanoN V7
Using: SetCPU: 787 MHz Max 245 MHz Min
AutoMemoryManager: Mild
Link2SD: 1Gb partition SDext2
This phone has almost 2 years now, and a year ago I decided to improve it. However 5 major problems stil persist (I decided to create a separate thread for each one of them).
One of them is that even though I've created a partition in the SD card, and linked or moved all apps to the SD, my internal memory is still near to full. What is taking so much space? Where can I free up space?
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easy, move ur internal memory apps to external.