Last july, I took my Milestone on a hike and fell on it, breaking the glass. I sent it for repairs and got it back after a nice 120$ bill.
When it came back, the charging plug was loose, but still worked well. Considering this was my only phone (I'm in an appartement without landline), only MP3, acted as my agenda, adress book and GPS, and that I knew that sending it back in would take another 4-6 weeks, I decided to keep it anyways. It was still charging, right?
Well it progressively got looser, and now it won't charge unless it's in the dock, at a certain angle forward, and the 1-year guarantee ended 3 weeks ago... So it's useless as a GPS, and I have to mess with it for a minute everytime I plug it in to make sure it's at the right angle...
Besides sending it back to Motorola, waiting 6 weeks and paying 120$ (again), does anyone else have found a solution to this issue? Is this a part that can be bought myself and replaced by someone skilled?
Thanks!
PS: Here in Quebec, the Consumer Protection Law states that a product should be covered for a reasonable time period... I'm thinking of putting pressure on them by saying that a reasonable time period would be the length of the contract with the carrier, and so that they should repair/replace it under guarantee. Opinions on that?
Buy a battery charger off eBay, they are cheap
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I'm talking about the charging port. The microUSB on the phone itself.
He knows, thats still what I would do. You also need a microUSB reader or use wifi to transfer stuff.
If its loose, then it may be just a torn wire, not my forte in small electronics.
If its 120, buy another one. You can get one off ebay cheap, or get one for parts.
Well, the phone just completely died, and won't power on at all-no matter what's the battery I used. I guess that won't be necessary now, lol.
Well, you should take it to repair, maybe you battery has died and some one need to weak-up it.
IMHO is better then buying another one.
I would do what the second poster was sayin and by a battery charger put it to good use again.
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I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.
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I managed to fry my kaisers circuits by plugging a 4 AMP car charger into the USB power port.
It only took one second, i smelled the smoke and instantly unplugged the cable, but it was too late.
Surprisingly the device was still powered and functioning, so i didn't freak out. The battery was already dead. after around 30 seconds it died again, i walked back home and tried charging it with mains adapter with no luck.
Next morning, i took my handset to a local electronics repair shop to check it, and i told them the story. they called me back and said the motherboard needs to be replaced. and it would cost me around $470. (and its not covered by manufacturers warranty. ouch!!)
After hours of cursing and smashing my head into the steering wheel, i thought i'll pick it back and try something my self.
the part where the device stayed on even after the smoke came out led me to believe that the board is still fine. and that only the charging port got fried.
the problem is, I don't have a desk charger to charge my battery and test my theory, a disassembly guide would also be very helpful.
if the main mother board was really fried, is there any place that i can buy it from? i did some goggling around with no luck.Anything cheaper than what these guys are asking for would be great, i have a feeling they are trying to rip me off.
If any of you guys can help me out, id be grateful.
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I have a brand new AT&T Tilt ( kaiserII HTC8925) for sale i can sell to you for $375.00 New In the box never been used. PM me if interested.
Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?
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Sorry I can't help in this matter, but I thought i would post this here rather than start a whole new thread.
I have heard lots of horror stories of in-car chargers frying kaisers. Has anyone got an in-car charger that works?
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Order one that is made for the Kaiser...a lot of people are trying to use old chargers just cause the tip is the same.
I got my stuff from PocketSolutions.com
Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.
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Car chargers that work for the 8525 should work fine for the 8925. It just can't do that "boost" charging feature the Tilt supposedly has.
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hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho
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hmmm.. thats got me scared, cuz im using a razr charger for my tilt. ive used it multiple times with no probs so far...hope its not damaging my phone tho
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That one won't damage the Kaiser, but it has only half the mA of the proper one. This can sometimes cause problems if the charge level of the battery is very low. For charging from time to time and when battery isn't near empty you will be ok.
Mike
well a quick tip would probably be checking the fuze on your charger, anything below an amp wouldnt do much damage. -.-;
4 amps fried my tilts motherboard, so watch out guys
still looking for a service manual, now that my phone is dead, i want to dissect it,
I'm using a cheapy chinese one made for an Imate Jam if that helps.
Joe
the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device
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the part of the board responsible for charging is probably what went up in smoke - you probably smelt (smelled?) resistors/capacitors overheating/melting - they said a total mobo replace as that circuitry is probably all on the same board - sure you might be able to replace it yourself but i dunno - might be a bit of a mega mission what with all these micro components around on these sorts of device
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Yep, these devices now have multilayer boards that make it virtually impossible to do a bit of home soldering/component replacement on.
Bring back the days of my youth when we had valves (tubes in US I believe), they were nice - and kept your hands warm as you soldered away in a freezing garage
Mike
Cracked Open
I opened up the case and unscrewed my way to the burnt part of the board.
thanks to mike and the manual he posted on some other fourm
http://www.modaco.com/content/Pocke...58716/HTC-Service-Manuals-Dismantling-Guides/
This is the main board
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/7447/ks1jj3.jpg
This is the same board from the other side with the burnt IC
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/2717/ks2wi1.jpg
And a close up
http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4416/ks3nv1.jpg
Closer
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
Okay now i can at least see where the damage is.
Still stubborn that i am, I did not believe that this IC killed the entire mobo, so i invested in a desk charger for the battery and charged it up fully.
I just tested it now and to my surprise it WORKED!!
http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/5070/ks5vj6.jpg
Of course, my joy ride did not last for long as the device started heating up. I switched it back off once i felt the abnormal amount of heat generated.
I tried it again after it cooled down. This time I kept it for around three mins, and again it heated up, at the end of, it just shut it self off. (still heating up).
After that scary little experiment i learned few things:
1- The device motherboard is alive, there is no need to replace the entire board.
2- The burnt IC is probably meant to control the usb port and the power, therefore my usb port is useless at this stage.
3- charging the battery externally wont help much without resolving the heat issue.
I tried to look up diagrams for the devices board and the only thing i could found is this:
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_msm7200_cs.pdf
which is useless.
Any help would be much appreciated..
cheers
Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.
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Can anyone help me with this?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/5944/ks4lu6.jpg
the chip burnt shown in the picture above needs to be replaced on my tytnz mobo.
can anyone give me more details about it or where can i find a replacement, all i could read on it is the (QRA) part, if anyone has a tytn II could you have a closer look, grab me a serial number maybe.
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anyone? lols still waiting btw
am sure most of the kaiser form viewers have a kaiser.
if any of you do can you please check that chip on your device board, i have lost mine and trying to replace it.
check if theres anything written on it, any information about it would be could be helpful.
thanks
Hey Guys,
so i bought my phone in december online and it worked great. I love the phone and think its an unbelievable investment. But just last week, I tried to plug in my mini-usb upside down and I cracked the small chip that the miniusb plugs into.
The phone does not charge, and seems pretty much ruined. I tested alternate batteries and went to the at&t store and they said that because its cracked it wont charge.
Does anyone know of any reasonably priced repair centers? Or has anyone ever had experience just shipping it back to them and getting a new one?
I called them and said it would cost $300 to repair, cost me $250 to buy....
Thanks a lot,
Greg
Search -- there's a place in the US that will repair it for about $80
The same thing happend to my tilt. I would recomend you try charging it using the adapter. It seems the adapter aligns the pins on the mini USB port.
Hope this helps.
There is always the option of getting a second batter and a cradle to charge it I have one just so i can take the spare battery on the go
Here is a good example of what to look for
Its not a fixed USB port but this should get you back in business. Also, If you have Hard-SPL , you dont need the USB port to flash or mod another rom. Just use the Micro-SD card. Its faster and easier anyway
Hope this helps
Excellent repair work from: www.ppctechs.com
I've had two tilts repaired.
I reciveved my phone yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I charged it last night and noticed it became hot to the touch in a few minutes of being plugged in. Like burn your hand hot and there was a bit of a hot plastic smell coming off it. I unplugged it let it rest. Today I have no usb access to it. No adb, no fastboot. Lsusb shows no devices etc.
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I reciveved my phone yesterday and after playing with it for a few hours I charged it last night and noticed it became hot to the touch in a few minutes of being plugged in. Like burn your hand hot and there was a bit of a hot plastic smell coming off it. I unplugged it let it rest. Today I have no usb access to it. No adb, no fastboot. Lsusb shows no devices etc.
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Xplodwild tweeted out the other day about issue with USB charging similar to this. Does the same happen when AC charging?
Is this problem similar to this guy?
Watch out for overheating!
seems to be a similar issue - it was very hot on the back side just below the camera especially I'm just afraid it got too hot and something was damaged.
This explains why google was pushing their bumpers instead of a full case I can't imagine a case would be good for this things thermal characteristics.
This happened while charging via ac when charging via usb it just seems to hold steady at whatever level the battery was.
Just out of interest, what surface did you leave it on all night?
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Just out of interest, what surface did you leave it on all night?
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I left it on a wooden desk for 5 to 10 minutes it didn't take long
It is no longer charging. I can't get it back to stock to rma I'm not happy :crying:
Woah, all other nexus 4 problems aside, this one is quite serious.
Just imagine what would have happened if you'd have left it on a easily flammable surface and wouldn't have noticed the heat. Worst case scenario might have been a fire or something like that.
If this really is a common problem (I've already seen at least two people reporting similar issues), we might see a big recall campaign quite soon.
I guess you don't really want the LiPo battery in your phone burst like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3o_2mwRPdw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Maybe Google should start to sell these bags instead of the bumper
Where you using the provided USB-AC adapter?
I know that my friends GS2 and GS3 got really hot when using my playbook wall charger (rated at 5v ~1.8A) :S
Heard of similiar issues with nexus 7, but the one I'm aware of is still charging.
I haven't experienced this issue yet?
I contacted google play they were quite happy to send me a replacement. Aparently they held back stock in case of a need for returns. HOWEVER they tried to charge an authorization hold on my account in the ammount of $350 I DONT HAVE ANY DAMNED MONEY I JUST SPENT IT on their ****! The only other option they said was to return it for a refund and wait a large number of weeks for orders to open up again or send it directly to LG for the same treatment ?!? I'm PISSED. The guy said that this was not the first case he'd heard of like mine didn't even ask any questions except for the serial number - I'd expect that there are going to be quite a few issues like this.
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Is this problem similar to this guy?
Watch out for overheating!
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Yeah, sounds like my problem. Was your microUSB port also loose/creaky like mine? I got Google to RMA me a new one. It's a shame, I love this phone and this one has no give on the screen whatsoever and no rattle. The port though and the screen flicker are another story...
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I don't have screen flicker yet and the port isn't lose I'm thinking somebody cut some corners on the voltage regulation
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HOWEVER they tried to charge an authorization hold on my account in the ammount of $350 I DONT HAVE ANY DAMNED MONEY I JUST SPENT IT on their ****!
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Damn, I guess this is sorta good news for all the folks (myself included) whose banks dropped the authorization, haven't had Google recharge us, and have the phone in hand.
Ok, I have been dealing with this issue and trouble shooting every which way but loose. I am getting this message every time I try to charge my phone. "Unable to charge your device, make sure you are using a samsung-compatable battery and charger, and that your device is properly connected to the charger." The device is almost 2 years old so it is out of warranty, I called samsung and sent it in at my own expense and they marked it "BER" (Beyond Economical repair) because I had rooted it, I didn't install my own rom I just simply tripped Knox so samsung refused to work on it. Very disappointing. I have now set out to fix it on my own.
OEM Battery: Check
OEM Charger: Check
Properly Plugged in: Check
I have tried multiple different fixes, factory reset didn't work, so I flashed Cyanogen 12.1, Rapture, and Dr. Keton ROMs to see if it was a software issue, NOPE. (P.S. Rapture is my favorite)
So I ordered a wireless charger so see if it was the charger port, NOPE.
Then I ordered a external battery charger and 2 other batteries so I could at least play around with it. SO I have determined it is not the Charger port, Software, or Bad Battery.
2 weeks Prior to this problem occurring the bluetooth flat out quit working. So I am now considering getting a new motherboard but this requires a lot of work I would rather not do if there are any other suggestion at this point I would love to hear them before I pull the trigger and buy a 150$ motherboard, If it honestly comes to that I might just sell the phone for parts, I bought an s7, but I loved my note 4. I would prefer to go back to it cause I like the battery life on the note 4 but LOVE the camera on the s7. Any way, Any Ideals would be fantastic, thanks.
I had an international note 3 that used to say that. I think you may have to use a power source for which that perticular phone was designed for.... just an idea... If i recall i could slowly charge it using a car charger but not a wall charger. I dont know why though i sold it on craigslist before i found the answer.
I also had a similar problem with a regular domestic note 3. Turns out my baby stuck my phone in her mouth and her spit corroded the terminals. So the phone just wouldnt charge. Was a pretty easy fix for like 10 bucks for a whole new charging port. Did you maybe drop your phone and dislocate the flex cable from your board? http://youtu.be/OYBWT1yfilc
Doesnt seem toooo difficult to fix but if it were me id just swap out batteries
I'm curious if anyone on here has tried opening their phone up to swap the battery with an upgraded mAh cell? There are 4,220mAh upgrade batteries all over eBay and I'm really about to pull the trigger on one of them. If it fits and works properly, that is a pretty substantial upgrade in screen on time daily and the difference between me having to charge one to two times in the middle of the day versus being able to go the whole day on the initial charge.
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I'm curious if anyone on here has tried opening their phone up to swap the battery with an upgraded mAh cell? There are 4,220mAh upgrade batteries all over eBay and I'm really about to pull the trigger on one of them. If it fits and works properly, that is a pretty substantial upgrade in screen on time daily and the difference between me having to charge one to two times in the middle of the day versus being able to go the whole day on the initial charge.
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Just cause the listing and label on the battery says a capacity doesn't mean that's true. I wouldn't risk putting in a 3rd party battery that costs $20 (for example) into a $600+ phone
tlxxxsracer said:
Just cause the listing and label on the battery says a capacity doesn't mean that's true. I wouldn't risk putting in a 3rd party battery that costs $20 (for example) into a $600+ phone
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Well I mean that's a given with anything you buy on the internet without seeing it first. As for the price of it, a genuine OEM Pixel 4 battery is $25-$30 so I'm not put off by the $10 difference in price. I also am not going to be relying on the battery if I try it, as in if it turns out to be a dud I would just immediately swap back in the OEM battery and take the little $20 hit but I think its Worth trying with the current risk to benefit comparison and if it ends up being truthful, even if it's not 4220mAh but more than the OEM 3700mAh it would be a win in my book for the price. I have an inline USB meter I can throw between the charger and phone to measure how many milliamp hours the battery actually took.
If you need to upgrade battery to get more screen time each day then you're using your phone too much lol
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I'm curious if anyone on here has tried opening their phone up to swap the battery with an upgraded mAh cell? There are 4,220mAh upgrade batteries all over eBay and I'm really about to pull the trigger on one of them. If it fits and works properly, that is a pretty substantial upgrade in screen on time daily and the difference between me having to charge one to two times in the middle of the day versus being able to go the whole day on the initial charge.
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After my experiences with purchasing piss poor quality aftermarket batteries off Ebay and elsewhere (N6P), I would not recommend it. For the same price you can buy a PD power bank that will fast charge your device anywhere you don't have a charger handy. That and you won't break the back glass. Of course, it would be a totally different story if your battery has somehow degraded tremendously and is now defective. I'd be curious to know what your current battery capacity is using Accubattery. When I bought my P4XL, it was 103%. 6 months later it was 98%. If your battery capacity is still 90-95% I would look at a decent PD power bank and not crack the case open. Even if you pay someone to do the work and get a warranty, your phone will never be the same. Best of luck. :good:
I would think that a battery that's 500mah bigger might not be able to fit in the phone... Chances are that the battery will just be a low quality replacement.
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If you need to upgrade battery to get more screen time each day then you're using your phone too much lol
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According to accubattery I currently have 12 hours and 25 minutes of screen on time. I dont know about anyone else but that is really good in my book and more than enough. My battery is reading 103% capacity.
I never fast charge my phone unless I forget to charge it overnight and I am leaving the house soon then I throw it on the original charger. And I almost never charge past 80%. I actually use a device called chargie that slow charges my phone overnight. It completely shuts down the charger at 80 allows the phone to discharge to 76 and kicks back on and goes back to 80. My battery only goes up about 10 degrees F while charging. And I have it set to shut off the charger if my battery reaches 110 degrees F. I really plan on keeping this phone for at least 3 years (since I have a family and I have to be a big boy and put food on the table now) No more getting the newest phone for me every year.
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If you need to upgrade battery to get more screen time each day then you're using your phone too much lol
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Well, considering my phone is used for all traditional purposes (YouTube, social media, email, web browsing) along with the fact that I run my business from my phone, you wouldn't be wrong, but it is essential and serves it's purpose. Any extra sot I can get is a huge plus for me.
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After my experiences with purchasing piss poor quality aftermarket batteries off Ebay and elsewhere (N6P), I would not recommend it. For the same price you can buy a PD power bank that will fast charge your device anywhere you don't have a charger handy. That and you won't break the back glass. Of course, it would be a totally different story if your battery has somehow degraded tremendously and is now defective. I'd be curious to know what your current battery capacity is using Accubattery. When I bought my P4XL, it was 103%. 6 months later it was 98%. If your battery capacity is still 90-95% I would look at a decent PD power bank and not crack the case open. Even if you pay someone to do the work and get a warranty, your phone will never be the same. Best of luck. :good:
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Yeah I feel what you're saying, the one reason I haven't already dove right in and tried is the splitting the case open. I have don't it once before on a P4, my last one had some issues and I was able to open it up before sending it back to Google to be RMA'd.
I do in fact have a 10,000mAh PD power bank, I bought it within the first week of upgrading from my P2 to my P4. It works fine and is a great solution but obviously being able to fix the root problem would be better if possible. The power bank is along the lines of a bandaid for the problem but seems to be my only logical choice for now.
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Well I mean that's a given with anything you buy on the internet without seeing it first. As for the price of it, a genuine OEM Pixel 4 battery is $25-$30 so I'm not put off by the $10 difference in price. I also am not going to be relying on the battery if I try it, as in if it turns out to be a dud I would just immediately swap back in the OEM battery and take the little $20 hit but I think its Worth trying with the current risk to benefit comparison and if it ends up being truthful, even if it's not 4220mAh but more than the OEM 3700mAh it would be a win in my book for the price. I have an inline USB meter I can throw between the charger and phone to measure how many milliamp hours the battery actually took.
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Did you try the 4220mAh battery?
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According to accubattery I currently have 12 hours and 25 minutes of screen on time. I dont know about anyone else but that is really good in my book and more than enough. My battery is reading 103% capacity.
I never fast charge my phone unless I forget to charge it overnight and I am leaving the house soon then I throw it on the original charger. And I almost never charge past 80%. I actually use a device called chargie that slow charges my phone overnight. It completely shuts down the charger at 80 allows the phone to discharge to 76 and kicks back on and goes back to 80. My battery only goes up about 10 degrees F while charging. And I have it set to shut off the charger if my battery reaches 110 degrees F. I really plan on keeping this phone for at least 3 years (since I have a family and I have to be a big boy and put food on the table now) No more getting the newest phone for me every year.
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12 hours screen on time? What alternate plane of existence do you get that kind of SOT with a P4XL??
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I just opened up mine the other day to replace the rear glass ( had a crack in the corner). Was pretty easy with the guitar pick looking spudger. I did not need any heat to open it. Figured while I was in there might as well replace the battery with a fresh one. Both were purchased from ifixit. The swap out went fairly quick, I just took my time to scrape all the sealant from the edges of the phone for the back glass to have a good seal. Haven't dunked it yet to test if its still waterproof.
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No I actually never ended up pulling the trigger on it. To be honest, I'm still really interested in the idea. The only slight bit of anxiety it gives me is with breaking the factory adhesive on the rear panel. Still, I will try it soon. I hate having to dedicate a pocket to my power bank anytime I'm out for more than a couple of hours.
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I just opened up mine the other day to replace the rear glass ( had a crack in the corner). Was pretty easy with the guitar pick looking spudger. I did not need any heat to open it. Figured while I was in there might as well replace the battery with a fresh one. Both were purchased from ifixit. The swap out went fairly quick, I just took my time to scrape all the sealant from the edges of the phone for the back glass to have a good seal. Haven't dunked it yet to test if its still waterproof.
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What adhesive did you replace the factory stuff with and where did you get it?
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What adhesive did you replace the factory stuff with and where did you get it?
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The 3 pull strips for the battery didn't fully come off so there was still some that I could reuse to secure the battery. The rear glass that comes from ifixit has everything (nfc,qi, camera lens gasket etc) already attached to it including the adhesive. They also sell just the adhesive strip by itself if you're just opening it up.
https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Google-Pixel-4-XL