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Hi all. I've had my Nexus for about three weeks now, and while I originally bought it for Froyo, I'm getting impatient and have the urge to root and try ROMs like CM and Modaco.
Should I wait or just root and do it?
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i rooted mine yesterday and only had it for 4 days.... havent even gotten the bill yet.... i bought it to hack
Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..
I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back
Even if you root you can still install Froyo. Its not like you're losing the ability to install Froyo by rooting. Actually, you don't even have to root to install Froyo now irrc..
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I have an AT&T Nexus One so I can't flash Froyo without root.
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I say go for it.
Then again, I'm a bad influence, and have a reputation for voiding warranties.
I rooted my phone within the first hour I had it - haven't looked back
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My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now
tjsimmons said:
My phone looks to be fine. No screen, wifi, or any sort of issues. But I've read that HTC still fixes unlocked phones (at least sometimes). I'm just afraid of paying $530 for this thing and then bricking it. Haha.
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I recently sent my phone in rooted for repair and htc didn't mind.
got it back a couple days later but it was locked again.
There is no chance of bricking it unless you update the radio. You won't have to update the radio to flash most 2.1 ROMs.... you will have to when you upgrade to Froyo. Might as well go ahead and screw around on 2.1 for now
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Hmm. I'll have to look at some of the ROMs then and see what I like.
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Does anyone else appreciate the irony of someone asking XDA if they should root?
It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.
I didn't root for 3 months until last week when I finally rooted. With froyo so close I thought about waiting. But once I rooted its now obvious that rooting is the way to go. Don't even worry about the official update coming. Just root it and you will have the official update earlier than if you don't root. Plus cyanogen is such a great ROM and totally worth it.
Okay so, I'm going to root and look at flashing some ROMs. Any guides out there? I see the sticky in General for Sense UI, but I'm not terribly sure if that's what I should follow or what.
Thanks!
Edit: started new thread.
just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?
mykeldrip said:
just a quick question to you topic creator..im very new to rooting and flashing roms myself may i ask what guide you used to lear to do it?
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In General Paul posted a guide from stock N1 to Sense UI/CM (it's a sticky). I just went down that and it worked great.
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It's like asking a kleptomaniac if you should shoplift.
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Hey it's not like we do it because we want to, we have to!
Lmao, sooooo true
Hi I am thinking of rooting my milestone but I am not sure about the risks of bricking the phone. How likely is it that it will get bricked or can I make a backup before I begin?
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Anyone?
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Not one person?
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hi, i was just like you but if you follow the steps EXACTLY to the tutorial on here then you will be fine. one thing though, you dont need to update your bootloader 90.73 or 90.94 if you have those and when you flash vulnerable recovery, the tutorial doesn't tell you that when the phone restarts from flashing the first time, you must hold UP on the keypad (or X for bootloader version 90.78) as i had that problem. finally use G.O.T's open recovery as its much better than the original one (apps2sd is good as milestone has hardly any memory for games and stuff. if you need any help, then contact me on here. Happy flashing
Thanks I have pmed you but it's just if I root this phone and the phonw bricks then I'm screwed. I can't just go buy a new one. Is there a way I can totaly avoid any chances of bricking or just un-bricking the phone if necessery?
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right, i understand where you are coming from as i had to think for about 6 hours before i finally plucked up the courage to root mine as i bought one from ebay and messed that up but it was already messed up. if you havent done anything to your phone yet (virgin state) apart from doing Over-The_air updates then it will go fine considering you follow the instructions EXACTLY and everything will go fine like mine did. i will find the website that i used and give it to you as i know it works 100%. how long have you had your milestone?
p.s you dont really need a g1, they are good but milestone is much much better (asphalt gt 5 is amazing!!!!!)
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right, i understand where you are coming from as i had to think for about 6 hours before i finally plucked up the courage to root mine as i bought one from ebay and messed that up but it was already messed up. if you havent done anything to your phone yet (virgin state) apart from doing Over-The_air updates then it will go fine considering you follow the instructions EXACTLY and everything will go fine like mine did. i will find the website that i used and give it to you as i know it works 100%. how long have you had your milestone?
p.s you dont really need a g1, they are good but milestone is much much better (asphalt gt 5 is amazing!!!!!)
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thanks i've had my milestone for 2 weeks now and the reason i want a g1 is to start developing on. as you can load just about anything on it and they are really cheap, i think it would be handy and fun to play with + great to load all my work on
If you use GOT's recovery to root the phone it's utterly painless, and you've got a nandroid backup built into it.
yeah but I've got to downgrade from 2.1 first and that's what I'm worried about
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Hi guys, newbie here..
Don't flame me first..i read alot in this milestone forum..
But I haven't chance upon if rooting the milestone asia edition will cause you to lose my data..will I have to reinstall all app or what ? Please enlighten..I'm ready to root when I got this point straighten out..i have install tons of app..after I root I think I shud be able to get app2sd n setcpu on my rooted milestone.am I right?
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Does anyone know of a working cyanogenmod ROM for the vivid? On there site its not on the device list yet
Also on a side note, I have unlocked the bootloader and have perm root. Do I need S-off and if so how do I do it?
Be patient. It was just unlocked and developers are getting to work.
Soon there will be awesomeness coming to the development forum.
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Does anyone know of a working cyanogenmod ROM for the vivid? On there site its not on the device list yet
Also on a side note, I have unlocked the bootloader and have perm root. Do I need S-off and if so how do I do it?
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seriously? it got unlocked yesterday and you think there would already be a CM build?
the only way to get a working Cyanogenmod right now would be for you to build it, because it doesnt exist.
right now there is no S-Off yet
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dont mean to come off like a **** with this post, but a Cyanogenmod release literally doesnt happen overnight....and they wont support it until someone does the work of getting it built and working on the device.
Well since other carriers were unlocked before yesterday I didn't know if someone had already been working on it...
Also this is my first android so just a heads up for any other newbies when I used the HTC dev site to unlock the phone it resets the phone wiping your data
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I chatted w/attn1 yesterday and he said if we'd get him a Vivid, he'd build CM7 for it.
Saw a page calling themselves htcvividforum.com that said they could put the inspire cm7 on the vivid, and pointed to this XDA thread for the Inspire 4G: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1226584. I was wondering if anybody had tried that? I have my doubts, being it's a different phone and all.... maybe I am cross eyed and can't read.
The link to the page that claimed this:
www.htcvividforum.com/custom-roms/bbmod-rom-beta-v1-3-3-cm7-nightly-w-treats/msg71185/?
That site is pretty bogus. It's a clone of http://www.htcinspireforum.com, which, if you go to it, shows identical posts with "vivid" swapped for "inspire". I wouldn't try flashing an ace build to your Vivid.
the ACE and the HOLIDAY are not even close to having the same hardware.....i agree with kxhawkins, the site is bull****
the first clue to the exact link that you posted:
« on: October 07, 2011, 10:49:16 AM »
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dude stated that he installed a rom on a phone that wasnt even released to the public for another month?
Wow, fast replies, thanks. I wasn't brave enough. I've read your warnings, etc, so I knew something was up!
Well, back to waiting patiently for cm9. "C'mon ice ceeam!!!"
#Edit#
I didn't even think to check the date on that other site. Good to know for future endeavors.
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Is there even a phone that has cyanogenmod with this processor?
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We need to wait for some guys' hard work
I think its safe to say this phone wont be getting cyanogenmod7 but it will get cyanogenmod9
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trell959 said:
I think its safe to say this phone wont be getting cyanogenmod7 but it will get cyanogenmod9
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I think the same.
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The cubed is working on cm9 has it bootable but thats it. still awesome though
Where do these fastboot files come from? Im new and trying to figure out how all this works. Thanks
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Where do these fastboot files come from? Im new and trying to figure out how all this works. Thanks
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They come from Motorola. However, they are not files that would normally be released to the public, so we have to wait and see if someone is nice enough to leak them for us.
If? Oh my that just sux
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How long?
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They come from Motorola. However, they are not files that would normally be released to the public, so we have to wait and see if someone is nice enough to leak them for us.
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I've heard the equivalent experience with the Droid Razr fastboot restore file used around here and other fora as support for the idea that the D4 restore should be leaking soon. What I've never heard was how long it took from release of the phone to a leaked usable restore. I'm deferring taking my bricked Droid 4 back to the store and playing dumb to try to get a warranty exchange in hopes I can just unbrick my phone sometime in the coming days or maybe weeks.
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I've heard the equivalent experience with the Droid Razr fastboot restore file used around here and other fora as support for the idea that the D4 restore should be leaking soon. What I've never heard was how long it took from release of the phone to a leaked usable restore. I'm deferring taking my bricked Droid 4 back to the store and playing dumb to try to get a warranty exchange in hopes I can just unbrick my phone sometime in the coming days or maybe weeks.
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I'll in the same boat. I soft-bricked my D4 earlier this week and I feel like trying to swap it would be wrong. I messed it up, so I should fix it. I just have to play the waiting game.
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I did a little google-fu and calendar math and came up with an answer to my earlier question about how long it took for the Droid Razr to have a leaked fastboot file.
That phone was released on 11 November 2011. Its fastboot recovery appeared here on 29 December the same year. That's 48 days.
48 days after the release of the Droid 4 (February 10th) was March 29th. That was 11 days ago.
So, the example of the Droid Razr leaked fastboot is interesting, but not necessarily insightful. It's already taken longer than it did for the Razr.
Sigh.
Here's a scarier thought. The Droid Bionic was released in September, and fastboot files didn't leak until February. Hopefully it won't take much longer! I'm very close to just using my spare upgrade to get a RAZR MAXX, or maybe the Droid Fighter that is supposed to come out soon.
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Not true, we had Bionic fastboot files for the stock release within a couple weeks.
This is actually very unusual that we have not seen them yet for this phone.
Ah, my bad. I should have looked into that further. The article I read about it made it seem like the ones that leaked in February were the first.
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I could really use this right about now. Can't seem to figure out why my OTA update is failing and I'd love to be able to revert to stock and then apply it, if only I had the fastboot file =(
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I could really use this right about now. Can't seem to figure out why my OTA update is failing and I'd love to be able to revert to stock and then apply it, if only I had the fastboot file =(
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Download the update (do a Google search for the link) and put it on your SD card. Boot into recovery and apply the update. It will tell you where it's failing. You'll probably need to get a stock system dump and copy over any files that are missing/altered, making sure to change the permissions and owner if necessary.
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Download the update (do a Google search for the link) and put it on your SD card. Boot into recovery and apply the update. It will tell you where it's failing. You'll probably need to get a stock system dump and copy over any files that are missing/altered, making sure to change the permissions and owner if necessary.
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Thanks...I would have done this but I don't have an external SD and for some reason the update won't apply if it's from internal storage.
EDIT: Got it working! Turns out my system/build.prop file was the culprit. I replaced it with a stock build.prop file, fixed the permissions, and then the update succeeded.
There is a link in the Eternity Project thread in the Dev section for fastboot files! I just downloaded it, but haven't tried using it yet. Someone with a bricked D4 wanna try these out?
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There is a link in the Eternity Project thread in the Dev section for fastboot files! I just downloaded it, but haven't tried using it yet. Someone with a bricked D4 wanna try these out?
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I will, later today. When I checked the link earlier, it was a 404 at the download site, but I have the page bookmarked at The Eternity Project and will give it a swing this evening (US Central time). My D4 is about as bootlooped as it gets, so I think I'm a prime candidate for this.
I really really really hope this works. My D4 has been bricked for weeks.
I was able to download the file so it looks like the link must be fixed. I look forward to hearing if it works for you! My D4 is running fine so I'm a little hesitant to try it out myself.
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I was able to download the file so it looks like the link must be fixed. I look forward to hearing if it works for you! My D4 is running fine so I'm a little hesitant to try it out myself.
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Me too, though I do believe these things have to be signed or they won't flash, so theoretically there shouldn't be much risk for us
This really has made my day. I remember back when I first got my OG Droid, I somehow managed to screw up EVERYTHING in the first week (CWM and ROM), so being able to bring the phone back to life via RSDLite was awesome.
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Me too, though I do believe these things have to be signed or they won't flash, so theoretically there shouldn't be much risk for us
This really has made my day. I remember back when I first got my OG Droid, I somehow managed to screw up EVERYTHING in the first week (CWM and ROM), so being able to bring the phone back to life via RSDLite was awesome.
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Made my day too. Saved my butt on my D2 more than once. Magic files that bring your phone back from the dead!
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Link to droidlife with installation directions, and the whole bit.bitterness )
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...roid-4-fastboot-image-file-now-available.html
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Link to droidlife with installation directions, and the whole bit.bitterness )
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...roid-4-fastboot-image-file-now-available.html
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IIRC, didn't you have a bricked D4? If so, has this brought it back to life?
Here is hoping you are back up and running, one way or another...
Well, I was definitely one of the bricked ones, but as you can tell from my signature, I'm not bricked anymore. The fastboot file worked flawlessly.
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hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
Have a look at Q1 in the FAQ thread which is stickied and you'll be able to pick your preferred method and find out.
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hi guys i'm new to rooting so how hard is it?
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Pretty easy if you can read, comprehend and follow instructions.
Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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Don't think so what's the point to rooting with out them
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
ROM Toolbox
Greenify
Adblock Plus
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There are many apps that require root, here are 4 apps Im currently using on all my devices:
Titanium Backup
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Thanks not heard of greenify cool app thanks :good:
I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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I've never rooted a handset either, gonna buy the One next week and probably root to get the menu option but one q I have is......is it easy to go back to complete stock??
Is there anything to be carful about??
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It will always say (relocked) in recovery
My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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My advice is READ READ READ/SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH
I did that for weeks before I even bought my Nexus One and rooted it over 3 years ago
Even after all that time, I have already read over a thousand posts thru out the One Forum in preparation of buying the phone
Lot less headaches that way and better chance of not bricking your new/expensive phone--
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I can vouch for this. I bought my One two days ago and have it unlocked and rooted. However, it wasn't easy for me (this is the first Android I've ever "hacked") and it took two full days of researching and asking for help.
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Can you root without adding recovery? So basically not have TWRP or Clockwork recovery installed?
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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You need custom recovery to flash the SU binaries to xbin. But, once you get root, you can reapply the stock recovery via fastboot, though I Dont know why you would, you would lose much control of recovering your phone after any mishaps. Though I suppose you could reflash custom recovery in that event. Though you'd have to wait til you were near adb/SDK.
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
i have been rooted over 3 years and always get them thru roms sooner--never took one
have seen people taking updates and getting messed up
Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Also the fact that custom ROMs keep updating very frequently and I have itchy fingers. Think I'm tired of that. Unless a serious bug is present in stock ROM that HTC is taking too long to fix or maybe when Viper releases their ROM for the One, I'm planning on sticking to stock.
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Understand, and could have sworn I replied to your post already--need a vacation--
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Dont want to lose the ability of getting OTA updates- thats basically it.
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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Once you unlock why would you want to receive OTA updates?
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To keep my phone on the latest software? I hear lots of people who have rooted are not seeing the upgrade and I dont wanna deal with custom ROMs
as folks have said, read a bunch. and follow directions very closely.
gaining root access to the phone isn't tough. how much time it takes also kinda depends on what you plan to do with root access.
- if your with root is to use the stock rom, and just gain access to rooted apps, and maybe get rid of some bloatware (again read which one's are safe to delete first!), then rooting won't take too much time.
- if you plan on trying new roms and kernels to try to ring every last drop of functionality and speed and battery life out of that chunk of hardware, then expect it to take some time. this path is voluntary. but it should be considered a lifestyle, not a solution.