I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
Macmee said:
I want to put an HTC dream on Bell, because now that Bell is HSPA it is compatible with the device. All I need is a sim card and I'm good to go. However, would I face problems doing this? For example, how does the device know which number to dial to get a data connection going, and things like that?
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From what I can tell, the telus/bell hspa network is 850/1900 and ONLY supports 3G, i.e., there is NO EDGE FALLBACK. This means that you *MUST* get a device that supports hspa 850/1900, which means you need a ROGERS HTC DREAM. An ADP1 or tmobile-branded DREAM will NOT work on telus/bell.
Note: Do NOT hold me to this info, do your own research to verify that these statements are accurate.
As for getting a data connection, that is simply a matter of plugging in the correct APN info that matches your network. But quite frankly, at $40 for 500MB, I would stick with WiFi for data.
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
Macmee said:
I bought a Rogers dream. I have the htc Vogue with 7 dollars unlimited data now, so that's why I'm curious about if my data will work, as the $7 unlimited data was only for the Vogue.
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Thr $7 unlimited plan will not work with the dream. Thre only smart phone that bell allowed that plan on was the vogue/touch and they consider it a pda device. The data will most certainly look different on bells network because you'll be connecting to the new hdspa network. Bell will be able to tell that you are on a smart phone on their new network and charge you accordingly.
The only possible work around I xcould think of would b e to register a 3g dumbphone on the new sim card and thewn try to put that sim card in the dream but like I said bell can tell the difference between dumb phone data and smaet phone data so you'll probably get dinged fairly hard
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Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
Macmee said:
Hmm, I'm not sure which speed my data is on the vogue. At the top it says 3G with android, but on Windows Mobile it said EVDO.
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Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
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Well bells cdma network was also considered 3g so if the phone was capable then it should of had 3g connection.
Like I said youn can try and register a hdspa equipped dumbphone and then throw the sim in your dream but I'm not sure how well that will work and that is assuming bell doesn't hardware IMEI lock the account
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Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
Macmee said:
Hmm, can I use some tweak on the dream to tell it only to use 3G?
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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The dream and the touch work on complety different networks. Assuming the touch does get 3g data it does so on bells cdma network whereas rogers dreram wikk get 3g speeds on bells new hdspa network wich is more like a gsm network. There is no way to fool bell into believing the dream is working on the old cdma network.
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So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
Macmee said:
So my only shot is to try to convince the folks at Bell to let me keep the $7 unlimited data on HSPA?
I don't know if I'm allowed to switch plans during a contract, but even if I do I think Bell is ridiculously expensive for data. I pay $55 now, and I think it would cost me just short of $70 a month for just 1GB of data
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I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
AverageCanadian said:
I can tell you now that you're noting going to get $7 unlimited data on any other smart phone device other than your touch.
Depending on how far you are into your contract(more than 6 months) I would call retensions and try to negotiate a better deal. You can check the Bell section of Howardforums to see what is currently being offered. Also depending on where you work you might be able to get an EPP plan.
You can always change your plan on contract you just can't drop your plan. Also if you get a retension plan or EPP plan you will have to renew for another 3 years.
Also if you do switch to normal data read the fine print. That might also require a 1 or 3year contract, I'm not sure I haven't looked at it.
I know the Rogers 1gb+ plans require at least a 1 year contract sigining. They might have even raised that to 3 years, can't remember.
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I have no idea how to get in touch with retentions, or what I could say to them. I just know I would burn through 500mb of data in several days
Thanks for this information though, certainly worth looking into.
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
stanelie said:
I can confirm that a T-Mobile G1 (sim unlocked) will not work on Telus.
I went to a Quebec telus store yesterday to try and have it activated, I bought a Sim card and put it in the phone, the phone was unable to see the Telus network, it was only seeing the Rogers network.
Darn.
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In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
lbcoder said:
In fact, it was only seeing the rogers *EDGE* network.
Telus/bell don't have edge at all.
You need a *rogers dream* to find the telus/bell hspa signal.
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Good that's what I have
is all I have to do put my sim card in, or do I have to like, configure the device to use Bells dial 777 for data thing?
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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Read my lips... ***ROGERS*** dream.
Macmee said:
Bell's website says it will work when I type the IMEI in, but on Bells website it says 1900mhz and on the HTC website:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/hero/specification.html
it says it's 2100mhz.
Should I be scared?
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lol like lbcoder says, rogers has their own frequency phone (with the proper crystal to work on rogers network). and that link is for the htc hero, its a whole 'nother phone
Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
Okay thanks guys. I tried the apn info on my Vogue which is on android, and they worked, so I can only assume theey will work. On the dream
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Just a heads up for people who want to use a Rogers Dream on Bell or Telus, you'll need to get the APN settings for their network.
I pulled these settings from Bells website, but I'm not sure they are complete
menu->settings->wireless controls->mobile networks->Acess Point Names->menu->New APN
Name: Bell
APN: pda2.bell.ca
MMSC: http://mms.bell.ca/mms/wapenc
MMS Proxy: web.wireless.bell.ca:80
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I can confirm the Rogers Dream works with Telus also. It always shows as Roaming but still works fine, just have to enable data connection when roaming.
Telus' APN settings are:
TELUS SP:
APN = sp.telus.com
Proxy = 74.49.0.18
Port 80
Username = <not set>
Password = <not set>
Server = <not set>
MMSC = http://aliasredirect.net/proxy/mmsc
MMS proxy = 74.49.0.18
MMS Port = 80
MMS Protocol = WAP 2.0
MCC = 302
MNC = 220
APN type = default,mms
Also, anyone plannning to run CyanogenMod on their Dream or Magic should consider this tutorial for installation, it allows you to keep the 3.22.20.17 radio image that is stock on the Rogers phones and improves the data connection. There is also this bit of info that enables full UMTS support when running CyanogenMod.
I am brand new to this site and this is my first post so please bear with a newbie. Just got a great deal online for a new Rogers HTC Dream. I bought an unlock code in order to use the phone with Telus my current carrier. I bought a sim card and had my plan changed to a data plan. Now here's the part that is frustrating me, I can not access the Telus data network. The phone works fine for phoning and text messaging, wifi works great, but if I try to access mobile data network I get "No network Connection". I checked with Telus added the Telus APN settings and set as default and still no luck. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Do you have a 3G or H icon in the Notification bar?
Unfortunately I have neither.
Try getting the Telus APN settings. Then go to APN settings and add it in. This SHOULD work.
APNhav
I called Telus tech support, HTC support and setup the Telus apn and it is set as the default all before posting here. However I still can't access the data network. Will I have to root the phone in order to access the data network?
This is not a problem with the phone so much as more the owner not reading carefully. I was so happy to get my hands on a T-Mobile HTC HD7 that I missed a key detail. Apparently the phone does not work on FIDO 3G (I am in Toronto). It is unlocked and I can make and receive calls with no issue, but for the life of me I cannot get 3G to work. I'd even be willing to live with Edge since I'm near WiFi hotspots most of the time, but even on Edge I can't get data to flow (send/receive emails, browse web, login to facebook).
So any ideas on how to get this to work on 3G or should the owner concede defeat ?
I called FIDO tech support and they offered no help over the phone. They said contact the phone manufacturer. After checking with the great gentleman I bought the phone from, he asked did I set up the APN ? I of course said what's that? So I did an internet search and sure enough right off FIDO's Tech Support website:
APN: internet.fido.ca
Username: fido
Password: fido
Why couldn't FIDO Tech Support on the phone just suggest this? sigh....
So issue is fixed once again. Not sure if I'm getting 3G or Edge but seems to be fast enough for me eitherway as I'm mainly checking email or facebook. Maybe when tethering is available, I'll notice a difference. Hope the above info is helpful.
You won't get 3G Data with this version of the HTC HD7. I believe a 3G version for Fido/Rogers etc will be available in the future but not release date is set yet.
Hi. Anyone know why my coworker's iphone at&t sim works in my tab but not the pay-as-you-go sim that originally came with it?
I'm using the JK3 modem with the overcome beta2 rom. Is there an issue with this modem working with the type of plan I have?
Thanks!
AT&T APN Data Settings for Galaxy Tab
Go to Settings, Wireless & Network, Mobile Networks, Access Point names and make sure you have one called Broadband (assuming you are on the ATT monthly data only plan)
If you dont, create a new APN
Name: Broadband
APN: Broadband
Just leave the other options as is, save it & select it.
I think by default it comes up with the ATT wap.cingular APN which doesn't work with the Tab Data plan.
I use the JK3 modem too.
Awesome! That did it.
Thanks!
RichAP,
you are the F**Kin man. I spent 2 1/2 hours on the phone with at&t with no result. after search this furom and changing names (a whole 15 mins at the most) I finnally have data. Maybe these "tech customer service" people should use xda when help people out, or maybe my dumb ass should have looked first. either way thanks RichAP.
No problem, glad I could help!
I've also had an issue with the stock AT&T Data Usage widget messing up my either my APN or Data.
Followed these instructions, but I think I have another layer of complexity.
My Tab is an international version and when I signed up on the att.com/addsession (or whatever the name is) page, it tells me they don't have a data plan for my device. Is that because my version of the Tab has voice capabilities?
I'll call AT&T tomorrow but thought I would see if anyone else has had this issue.
Since I've replied to about 4 threads already with the same answer, I figured I would post this here and maybe have it made a sticky.
If you have recently flashed a new non AT&T Rom (Euro,Gingerbread, Overcome, CM7, etc..) you Galaxy Tab will not have the correct APN setting for your monthly data sim from AT&T.
The fix:
Go to Settings
Wireless & Network
Mobile Networks
Access Point names and make sure you have one called Broadband (assuming you are on the ATT monthly data only plan)
If you dont, create a new APN:
Name: Broadband
APN: Broadband
Just leave the other options as is, save it & select it.
I think by default it comes up with the ATT wap.cingular APN which doesnt work with the Tab Data plan.
OMG You're a lifesaver!
I just flashed my respiffied $200 AT&T Galaxy Tab with Overcome 2.0, and have been beating my head into the wall trying to flash modems and do all kinds of resets.
Thank you so much!
Weird part is, I had this exact problem when I activated a data plan for the first time on my AT&T tab a few days ago. Checked, and I had I already had an APN called "APN Broadband" so I thought it was a different problem. After fighting it for a while, I decided to create the new one with the name "Broadband" with the exact same settings as the "APN Broadband" one, and it worked perfectly! Apparently, the name is critical!
I just went through the same thing with my new AT&T Galaxy Tab. I had to modify one of the entries noted above to get it to work.
Name : APN Broadband (not ATT Broadband)
APN: Broadband
I'm happy camping again.
fasterbug said:
I just went through the same thing with my new AT&T Galaxy Tab. I had to modify one of the entries noted above to get it to work.
Name : APN Broadband (not ATT Broadband)
APN: Broadband
I'm happy camping again.
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BTW, my Galaxy Tab is rooted using SuperOneClick.
OK, now I'm confused. As previously stated, I changed the APN name to APN Broadband and APN to Broadband and the wireless data started working. I turned on wifi, opened some random web pages, then shut off wifi. Now I'm not connecting to AT&T wireless data. I check the APN's again and the tab reverted back to the factory ATT Broadband. I swapped it back to the new APN I created (APN Broadband) and still could not get data. Now I changed back to the factory ATT Broadband, still no data. I began searching for more input. After 5+ minutes, I saw the 3G icon and I can reach the internet and market. I am new to Android devices, so I may be wrong, but I am not convinced I am done working this issue. If anyone else is has encountered this issue and have permanently fixed it, please add some food for thought.
fasterbug said:
I just went through the same thing with my new AT&T Galaxy Tab. I had to modify one of the entries noted above to get it to work.
Name : APN Broadband (not ATT Broadband)
APN: Broadband
I'm happy camping again.
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Very interesting, as the one I had named "APN Broadband" is the one that would drop service whenever I opened Market, and I had to do exactly what the OP stated in his post to get it to work.
On a side note, I have noticed that it switches back to the default "APN Broadband" everytime I cycle airplane mode. I have to go back into the settings and choose "Broadband" again. Maybe I should just delete the old "APN Broadband" APN and hope it doesn't screw anything up.
Delete it. It will only make things easier for you.
Thanks!
RichAP, thank you very much for the APN info!
I spent the morning trying various combinations of uppercase, lowercase, password, no password entries with the wap.cingular.com APN. I did a bunch of searches and finally found this post. Didn't believe it could be as easy as just entering "broadband" into the APN settings, lol.
My AT&T 7" Galaxy Tab is now up and running with Overcome 7 v4.1 and using 3G. Yay!
(edit: yes I posted this as my first post just so I could hit the thanks button.)
I know this is an old thread but it helped me out recently, however, I found I had to use a regular phone SIM in my Note 4 Edge to add the Broadband APN and then switch back to the broadband SIM. If anyone is searching this issue and having a similar problem I hope this info might be helpful.