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[Q] nandriud backup: data or all

when i go into recovery mode, and select backup / restore, should i be selecting backup "data" or backup "all"? what is the difference?

I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom

mcord11758 said:
I believe backup data will just backup your user apps and basic data on sd. Backup all baghdad up system apps and data as well. Significance is that you would not want to restore all if you were not running the same rom
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So if i would like to restore my phone to the state it is in now, would i be doing a backup "Data" or backup "all"?
when i go into recovery -->backup/restore --> backup, it says backup and restore data is recommended, and that backup and restore all was "use at own risk" or something along that line.

If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes

mcord11758 said:
If you are looking to restore your current state on rom "x" down the line, our if you are playing with themes and something goes wrong you would restore all. To be honest I am not sure why you would ever restore just data, that is why I use titanium backup.
You would not want to restore a backup from rom x onto rom y
I only do nandroid backups if I am planning on playing with themes
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hmm. so I shouldnt be using nandroid backup/restore to get back to where i originally was if i was testing out a different rom?

I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme

mcord11758 said:
I think you have me backwards
If you are running phoenix rom, but wanted to try paragon, you could do a nandroid backup of phoenix so that your set up on that rom is saved. Try paragon, but maybe it uss not for you, so you go back to phoenix. now you can restore your nandroid after you reflashed phoenix to get your settings and apps back. You can not restore the phoenix backup while on paragon. Well actually you could but it will likely cause issues
Now if you wanted to play with themes and you try one out and tower phone won't boot. You can go back to recovery and restore to get rid of the theme
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So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.

dsu said:
So that means i should always "reflash" back to phoenix rom before restoring my backup onto phoenix?
in this case, would i be using the "restore/backup data" or the "restore/backup all" from the recovery menu? like i said earlier, there is a recommendation in the menu to use backup/restore data and a warning with backup/restore all.
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Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option

mcord11758 said:
Yes you would reflash phoenix
Backup all, I believe the warning is to prevent you from restoring all from one rom to another.
Ok, I have a backup from stock 2.1. I am running paragon which is 2.2.1. If I try to restore my stock backup I will likely get stock in a boot loop and will have to use odin to recover. I believe, note believe, that if I restored just data I would be ok because I would not be restoring any system information. I use titanium to back up my apps, so I do not see a use for the option
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I see, still a bit confused because because i have a stock backup 2.2 from "rom manager". When switching between roms before, i would restore my phone back to the rom manager stock backup through recovery menu restore option before flashing it to another rom. That seemed to work fine.
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?

dsu said:
Is there a reason for this? or is the rom manager backup different from a nandroid "backup all"?
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No they are the same, may be better if you tell me what toy want to do, I don't know how to explain this in different terms. Restoring your rom manager backup does not qualify as flashing stock if that is what you are doing

Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.

max_82 said:
Please someone tell me how to backup using nandroid. I've tried many times using ROM Manager but still stuck on recovery 3(e). My captivate run on froyo JI6. Thanks.
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Get into recovery using power menu. Then you can use backup/restore to backup the rom.

[Q]About CWM?

Im backup nandroid with CWM then flash a new rom,after im flash new rom then i backup data from nandroid in CWM,is it restore all data of your phone(all setting,market acc and all app...)?Is it restore version of rom too?
I must to know because i allway flash new CM7 rom and dont want to install all my all and setting again.Sory for my bad english.

mikan293 said:
Im backup nandroid with CWM then flash a new rom,after im flash new rom then i backup data from nandroid in CWM,is it restore all data of your phone(all setting,market acc and all app...)?Is it restore version of rom too?
I must to know because i allway flash new CM7 rom and dont want to install all my all and setting again.Sory for my bad english.
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you should not restore one roms data to another one as it will also restore system data too which can cause abnormal issues like wifi/Bluetooth not working or else
you need to set system data manually and you can restore user data with titanium backup

use Titanium Backup to backup apps..when you flash a new rom,just restore apps from Titanium Backup....thats it.......just apps,not apps and data.
if you want to backup rom,then you go with CWM

[Q] Proper way to make Nandroid Backup and Restore

Hi all,
I'm just curious on what is the right way to make Nandroid backup on the International Note? *I'm used to my AT&T Galaxy Note that only uses 1 CWM version - so I have no clue with the N7000*
So I already know that I have to use the Abyss Kernel to flash in between Custom ROMs.
How about making Nandroid Backup and Restore?
Should I flash Abyss first, then reboot to recovery (from advanced, not restarting the phone) then make the back up or restore from there?
Or should I use the CWM version of the ROM that I last flash that I want to backup (e.g. Alliance ROM)?
Will it affect restoring from different CWM versions?
Thanks!

keplenk said:
Hi all,
I'm just curious on what is the right way to make Nandroid backup on the International Note? *I'm used to my AT&T Galaxy Note that only uses 1 CWM version - so I have no clue with the N7000*
So I already know that I have to use the Abyss Kernel to flash in between Custom ROMs.
How about making Nandroid Backup and Restore?
Should I flash Abyss first, then reboot to recovery (from advanced, not restarting the phone) then make the back up or restore from there?
Or should I use the CWM version of the ROM that I last flash that I want to backup (e.g. Alliance ROM)?
Will it affect restoring from different CWM versions?
Thanks!
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Somehow it will affect, and i am not sure you can restore from diff roms.
nandroid backup procedure is same(going in cwm recovery and do backup)

shivg86 said:
Somehow it will affect, and i am not sure you can restore from diff roms.
nandroid backup procedure is same(going in cwm recovery and do backup)
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Oh ouch .. that is really a good point. So Nandroid does NOT back up CWM?
If it does not, I guess .. I can only restore from nandroid using only one ROM with the same CWM it used.

Hi keplenk =)
I backup and/or restore almost every day. I'm not a cwm-r or android expert at all, just talking from my own experiences.
In the beginning, many months ago, when I just had bought my N7000 I flashed/restored/backup/wiped from all kind of kernels and cwm recovery versions, and it happened that I wasn't able to restore my backups. It was kind of very frustrating from time to time to loose a well tweaked and configured rom. But I was lucky I didn't emmc brick. That I realize today.
Then I changed my cwm-r habits. And I would for backups recommend you just enter cwm-r from whatever rom you are using and make a backup (nandroid). It will backup your kernel and cwm-r too.
To restore I would say it's a good idea to flash Abyss4.2, then REBOOT recovery to full wipe and then restore rom. Make sure you really installed Abyss4.2 and REBOOTED recovery before you wipe because else there could be a risk you end up with a nasty emmc hardbrick depending on if you are on a safe kernel or not. Many people would probably say it's not necessary to wipe, and maybe it isn't. But by the time I didn't it happened once in a while that I got problem with restore, not often at all though, but still it happened a few times. Since I started using this method with wipe, restore has worked fine without any problems hundreds of times (yes, I flash/backup/restore a lot xD, haha).
But once again, I'm just speaking from my own experiences nandroid backup/restore... I don't say it's the proper or best way to do it. It works fine for me though.
Happy Flashing =)
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Quick question about Nandoird Backup

I have a Nandroid Backup of my phone. If I wanted to restore everything from the backup apart from the kernel how would I go about doing this in CWM? I would like everything thing back such as apps etc but not the kernel
Thanks a lot in advance

subbyhasan said:
I have a Nandroid Backup of my phone. If I wanted to restore everything from the backup apart from the kernel how would I go about doing this in CWM? I would like everything thing back such as apps etc but not the kernel
Thanks a lot in advance
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I am not sure that is possible. What about restoring the backup and flashing a kernel afterwards in recovery without rebooting?

May be you can do it using philz recovery. It has a custom restore option.

Back to stock

Hello I have an xperia z c6602 I'm currently using pac man rom with meow kernel
My bootloader is unlocked and I want to go back to stock
I have a CWM backup of my stock rom. And a backup of my TA partition (i read it was useful)
How do I go back to stock? Can I just restore my CWM backup? Or I have to flash through Emma? How do I restore my ta backup?
Can someone be so kind to guide in a newbie way please? (I'm use to play around with Samsung devices. This is really different!)

plotinus said:
Hello I have an xperia z c6602 I'm currently using pac man rom with meow kernel
My bootloader is unlocked and I want to go back to stock
I have a CWM backup of my stock rom. And a backup of my TA partition (i read it was useful)
How do I go back to stock? Can I just restore my CWM backup? Or I have to flash through Emma? How do I restore my ta backup?
Can someone be so kind to guide in a newbie way please? (I'm use to play around with Samsung devices. This is really different!)
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Hello, I was on pac rom few days ago as well, then i decided to try miui which is based on stock.
So here's the steps:
BACK UP ALL YOUR INTERNAL SD FILES AND FOLDERS because flashing ftf will erase everything inside internal sd, I never did a backup, lost all the chats and messages. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
copy all the flashable .zip u want to your sd card.
Flash a stock .ftf file .67 / .74 will do, then root it with any method u want
then flash original kernel using flashtool
then reboot str8 to recovery and proceed to do a clean wipe then flash any stock custom rom you want.
let me know if you have any doubts or question here.

My method is
1.Backup everything, photos, messages, app data using titanium backup, literally everything you need.
2.Store backups somewhere safe, especially titanium backup file(the whole thing).
3.Flash back stock rom and wiping everything.
4.Relock bootloader.
5.Now you have a clean phone, root it again and restore titanium backup app datas,
But be sure to only restore games, apps, but not system files, it may causes crash.
6.Restore the rest of them.

xIceCream said:
Hello, I was on pac rom few days ago as well, then i decided to try miui which is based on stock.
So here's the steps:
BACK UP ALL YOUR INTERNAL SD FILES AND FOLDERS because flashing ftf will erase everything inside internal sd, I never did a backup, lost all the chats and messages. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:
copy all the flashable .zip u want to your sd card.
Flash a stock .ftf file .67 / .74 will do, then root it with any method u want
then flash original kernel using flashtool
then reboot str8 to recovery and proceed to do a clean wipe then flash any stock custom rom you want.
let me know if you have any doubts or question here.
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Thanks for the replies! Do you know how to restore my ta backup? Or by flashing the stock rom it would be the same? If not. At what part of the process should I do it?

plotinus said:
Thanks for the replies! Do you know how to restore my ta backup? Or by flashing the stock rom it would be the same? If not. At what part of the process should I do it?
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restore ta backup is the last step basically, ( after flashing stock kernel and stock rom)
i think you used the backup ta for windows from one thread if i'm not wrong,
just restore dry run just to make sure the ta is correct and then just restore it
(the phone should be power on like normal, with usb debugging on)
for your concern, cwm backup also can be used, just restore it and it's done, but, the app data and all other things will return to the state during the time you made the backup, so the progress you did in this custom rom wil not be saved, unless you used titanium backup after you restore nandroid.

Excellent! Thanks man I will restore my backup and restore TA. And yes. I used a Windows tool to make the ta backup (don't even know what's that for. I just read it was important) haha
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